no, the state-guaranteed debt amounts to almost 100 billion dollars in equivalent, it is still probably at the old rate at the new rate it is a little less the so-called commercial bloc. that is , this is the foreign debt, it is the dollars and euros that ukraine attracted on foreign markets without, let's say, any commitments on reforms in anti-corruption matters, it is purely commercial , commercial services, and actually this part of the debt the ministry of finance wants to restructure the fifth part of the ministry of finance because in september it has to pay for these enemies repayments and the body of 1.4 billion dollars is a significant amount until july

. from the west, we have new loans and grants in order to repay these funds, the arguments have been forgotten because the loans that ukraine currently receives are subject to preferential interest, one there is two percent at most, and the commercial debt under this is 75 e- e decision was made to ask e-e creditors to prolong, that is, to postpone these payments for a longer period of time for exactly 2 years, and as we have seen political statements from the leading countries of the west supporting this restructuring, i think that there is a good chance that the creditors will agree and the ministry of finance will not be there for the next two years to make payments on these e-e on these debts in this way, freeing up somewhere between 4.5 and 5 billion dollars, however, it is necessary to understand that the interest for this period will be accrued, they will simply be accrued primarily in payments

in the future, well, according to dmytro, do you see i don't know any solutions that would be completely clear in the west. i don't know about increasing financial discipline or the involvement of any monitoring missions with appropriate powers that could add certain tools to our government. we are talking about tools of trust , so that is, tools that could convince somehow more skillfully than ours. western partners in the fact that targeted funding of certain programs should be increased, i cannot say what is happening in the military sphere, it is probably more the minister comment on different fires, and in other directions, of course, work is being carried out, different er groups er platforms are being created, i don’t know what to call them correctly in order to monitor how er

resources are spent, for example, humanitarian aid resources or some other things er. that is, unfortunately ukraine, according to the west, remains a corrupt country, this must be clearly understood and clearly recognized , despite all the heroism of ukrainian soldiers and the ukrainian people in this war, but the issue of funds is a matter of great attention to it now, resources are allocated in significant amounts without additional control as far as i understand yes, why why because the lion's share of these re will go to social security, well, that is, they are simply paid out immediately for some current expenses and there are opportunities for some large-scale corruption maneuvers it is quite limited, but when we let's approach the question of reconstruction, actually there will be a completely different approach to the issues, well, we would also hope so, but we

remember the case of the congressmen of sparta, yes. well, now we will not deal with military affairs and administrative, and here it is simply in the plan - in the plan, in the financial plan, i don't know if one or the other political figure will appear, or from the european union, or from an individual european state, or maybe one of the american congressmen will start, so to speak, pouring out numbers hmm i don't know er, i don’t know any serious analytics on this matter. but maybe it would be better to play ahead of the curve and involve some appropriate sidewalk committees in which the european commissioners would listen , and they could normally already be in the regime work in real time, providing appropriate , i don't know, accompanying information so that one or another does not appear, do you understand commissioner katani to repeat that the attention to ukraine's use of funds is very great

, funding and support are going, one can say in emergency mode with the understanding that uh, again after all, here there are no expenses for construction or other areas where you can quite seriously launch the mechanism of grouping yes. that is, these are social expenses, these are living people who receive some money there, so yes, and so on attention will be as i said, because ukraine is considered a rather corrupt country and such attention will be from the united states because we all remember the history in afghanistan when we found out that these huge funds that were poured there did not just go to support some local elites and uh, according to the reports, it was great in fact and it didn’t

happen. that’s why there will be double attention here , firstly because of the reputation of ukraine, and secondly, because of the history that the united states experienced in afghanistan. thank you mykhailo demkiv financial analyst and dmytro boyarchuk, executive director of the center for socio-economic studies of the case ukraine worked live on the espresso tv channel. the latest statements that concern orbán korbán orbán oh my god, yesterday someone joked on our air about which yes yes yes orban continues to work out his agenda, what is it defined for him, i don't know anymore many people talk about the russian federation and

putin personally, but he aptly emphasized that during the period of the russian federation's large-scale invasion of ukraine, at least four prominent european governments changed or changed about it, and not only we will talk with our guests in a few moments. well, for now that as i understand the problem, information, russian military, russian troops attacked dnipropetrovsk region all night, a child was injured , private buildings and a gas pipeline were damaged, they hit three at a time the head of the military administration, valentyn reznichenko, reports this. the nikopol area was covered by the enemy several times with fire from the rsv and fired up to forty rockets. the two communities of manganetsk and mirivska were hit. in the latter,

six private houses and a gas pipeline were damaged. district, the russians directed two rockets, they hit the agricultural sector of the lyumov community, two hangars caught fire there, the fire was extinguished by no one fortunately, no one was hurt, and in the kryvyi rih area, the enemy fired barrel artillery at the zelenodol community, fortunately without casualties and destruction, it is important and franka could have passed you by. up to ten , in total, there are 15 units of nuclear power plants in our country. thus, the trainer-units at the rivne nuclear power plant a-a yes, one more unit of the rivne npp is connected and three the power units of the

zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant occupied by russian troops are still in the system, but we understand that the russians are already trying to switch this whole story, and you are focusing it on yourself. in addition, the general director of the mgt, rafael mariana grossi, said that the latest reports about the events on zaporizhzhia npp or near it indicates an increasingly alarming situation and calls for maximum restraint to avoid any accident that could threaten the healthy population in ukraine and elsewhere explained why many displaced people did not receive payment due to the action and incorrect registration of documents and called to call the hotline at 15:408 through i repeat 15:48 the hotline phone very important information i think will be close to the body for each of our viewers or viewers to contact us maksym yakovlev, head of the department of

international relations of the national university of kyiv-mohyla academy director of the school of political analysis on okna congratulations maksym good day good morning and yaroslav bozhko political consultant yaroslav congratulations glory to ukraine we are talking about what is happening with european governments, in particular, during these five months , at least the british, bulgarian, italian , and estonian governments and personnel experienced certain changes . of the european union itself has led to the fact that governments have fled, and we are worried about the fact that the level of support for us does not change due to certain

specific government rotations , so to speak the first to answer because i will start the morning with advertising a good book in my translation into ukrainian it is about a book by a nobel laureate in economics denmark coffee we have fast thinking slow because the first thing we have to understand is that if one event happens after another event does not always mean that it its consequence, well, that is, it would be so, you know, very simplified and presented by urban and some racists together, what you see through ukraine in europe is not such political instability that even whole governments simply collapse. well, and to blame by the way, the european people are also a big simplification and a cognitive error. well, the second point is the point that i call the conspiracist worldview, which is the anger of the european union. and of course, ukraine somehow spoils the life of calm, normal europeans. refugees who are in europe well, but on the other hand, the european union really has problems with this topic to the point that the european union needs to change its voting so that there are no more or those that one

someone is against it, he is blocking a decision in this european union, this discussion about decision -making or full conditionally full unity without someone putting his stick in the wheels, this is definitely a hint of the same orbán, the truth is that in hungary everything is really very strange, the strangest thing is that i was surprised by the fact that orba, the biggest believer in the russian orthodox church in our country, defends kurila bindyaev, a well- known patriarch of the kyrgyz, so i wouldn't connect it all together, well, in such a straightforward way as in ukraine the war in russia affected europe and european governments, they fell because of the war in ukraine, this is not the case. this is a great simplification and a cognitive choice, but the fact that there is a wave of political instability in the european union is growing due to dissatisfaction among the population, in particular, difficult living conditions and the increase in the price of everything, primarily due to more expensive state media it is so and it seems to me a pity from this we will see even more from the fall it is a very interesting moment thank you p maksym mr. dmitri what do

you think eh p yaroslav in your opinion how is it going everything can affect, in particular, our receipt of macro-financial assistance, we understand that great britain, unfortunately or fortunately, is not in the european union. yes, but certain waves. they begin, well, the story with the resignation of the dredge is also quite an eloquent moment, the resignation of the italian prime minister that is, pro-russian structures are connected there, i don't know indirectly or directly, with the gray cardinal of italian politics, silvio berlusconi, they set up a lot of problems, of course, but in any case, the dredge was one of the clear flagships about ukrainian, i.e., anti-russian politics, for example, now i will unfold the scenarios eh well , first of all, we should not think that all the politicians who

support ukraine in this case or, on the contrary, the russian federation, that they do it simply because of their ideological beliefs or willful efforts foreign policy of large western countries it is quite well situationalized and in order to make a sharp turn there, it still requires quite a lot of effort and time, so we should not expect that in any tangible way the policy in ukraine will change, the rhetoric in ukraine will change . what about the leadership of european countries, what about the leadership of great britain, the leadership of great britain has already assured about this, because in essence, the change of the prime minister in the position of all these countries acts primarily as a tool changes in the domestic policy of the release of steam and indeed, there is a definite increase in dissatisfaction with such socio-economic realities, with inflation, with the

consequences of two years of covid and the first such sprouts of the food crisis and the fuel crisis which russia is trying to inflame, however. in the end , let's say that the states have a rather strongly intellectualized foreign policy in which, not so much, even the electoral preferences of the citizens are the most important factor, so if the majority of the citizens there put forward some, i don't know, pro-russian theses hmm, this is not so much, it can even affect the foreign policy of western countries. well, the links are not so, sir, but we understand that the role of a specific person in history is very often decisive, yes remember the hali fax of the 1st count of halifax, the attacks of chamberlain and their successor, churchill

, that is, very unpleasant things often happen from replacement, if, for example, from the party of five stars or some other chicholinist italians, they will deliver a premium era, well, the situation can change, because it will also affect the politics of the european union, well, you understand, the story about the significant role of a person in history - this is the 19th century , that is, tom scarlet - this is such a shot, you know, a very exceptional criminal, you know, he beats his horns in our borders for more than 8 years, you understand , covering everything with corpses. and if there was a normal, so to speak, calmer and quieter guy like yeltsin, he was engaged in his own liquor-vodka politics, the democratization of the kgb and so on. well, it would be a different matter you understand not in the character of people, but in what capabilities states can afford, er,

states conduct foreign policy mostly because, well, they are forced to conduct it in one way or another, there are large objective factors such as the economy international security and all these, you know, more personal calculations, they usually only interfere with people in foreign policy, and i am more than sure that even if hypothetically somewhere there will be a tactical success of russian-style forces in europe, then all this will always be dictated by intra-european socio-economic and political realities, therefore that there are large business circles that can invest in it, there are, let's say, groups of influence, and here on the very activities of russian intelligence, objectively speaking, you won't get far, you need more, let's say, real the domestic political basis in order for the russian forces working with russia to be given the opportunity to turn around and objectively speaking, such forces that exist there and the plots and

alternates in germany, they perform such a rather specific role, but they do not exist only as an element of russian intervention they exist as an element of the german of the russian political and economic consensus, that is, they illuminate certain objective realities, on the other hand, there are people who are directed there by such more euro-atlantic vectors about the fact that it is necessary to prioritize cooperation with the usa with these people inside germany, there are conflicts in germany. that is, these are hardware conflicts - they are diverse and political, but let's say that in the development of foreign policy, the electorate directly and its ideological considerations do not play such a prominent role as, for example, the position the ministry of foreign affairs and diplomats as an institution is the position of intelligence officers from the point of view of ensuring there the national interests of the state and the conditions of international

security, so i do not think that personnel changes in europe we should consider it in a negative way except for those cases where, let's say, very quick parliamentary elections can take place because it can change a serious balance of power in favor of e-e in some cases in italy. of course, it would be unpleasant to see ultra-left populists or ultra-right populists eh, but let's be honest , even without a war, it is quite likely that vitaliy could change the government because there are political crises and resignations. it is not our fault, lord god, because it seems to me that all the dogs can be hung on us and the most important thing is that we gaslight ourselves and are the causes, now we seem to ourselves to be the causes of all the troubles of absolutely all countries, it’s hard to actually be a ukrainian, apart from the fact that you think about how you can even survive during the war, you have to think

about how to throw off the top of the russian federation well, for starters, yes, then to destroy this country, you have to think about how to feed the whole world with grain. you have to think if the standard of living of europeans did not fall, so that they would not stop supporting us and taking care of our refugees. and the effective support of our partners, we can cope with everything. i believe that the united states remains the leader, but nevertheless, from various institutions in this country, from time to time there are also voices. well, i would not say that they are completely opposite and polar positions to each other, but certain disagreements are also observed when we talk about bipartisan support in the united states of our country, we can stand on this when we talk about the pentagon and how it sees the development of the military picture in particular in our country

it's the same here. it's as if everything is normal. but with the administration of american president joseph biden, they say, sometimes there can be problems, because the problem is not even biden himself, in any case, but also in the personnel, in the number of advisers, in the number of people involved in the formation of the final positions n maxim, is this a problem or is it possible that it is a bit far-fetched? and in what strength, as the classics of one criminal film said, what is sullivan 's strength? ramsteinu this is not quite what we hoped for, well, 14 would. maybe someone there wiped the single one, well, look who wiped it. i don't know, because i just said it, because i thank you, valentin, for bringing me to the conspiracy topic. previous what ms. khrystyna said, we definitely hang our dogs on ourselves when we don't understand what is happening

. look, classic, i will answer in america, definitely a classic moment from what we observed is that we were all fascinated by boris johnson and practically the majority ukrainian experts were simply not interested in what was happening in the internal party struggle in great britain and that they came here to johnson, how he behaved, what were the complaints against him, we had hype, he really supported us, he drove 11 times , we also let the twentieth in. well, who in ukraine is that unconsciously monitors what processes are taking place in italy and, for example, decaldin 18:1 ago they published an article on the matter of an italian. of the left radical spectrum, yes, in general, the brothers of italy there are called post-fascists. yes, well, who is emerging in ukraine, who is there in italy now, a post-fascist , what is this person fighting for? well, how to move to america now, regarding the change of governments, what is happening. i am a wonderful article of 2015, when remember , syriza won in greece, and everyone thought that everything was fine. by the way, the markets reacted poorly, the euro started to be

cheaper again, and it is interesting that in the same article in 2015 on the bbc, where it is discussed what will happen to greece because syriza came on the hype, do you remember everything to anyone? we are not guilty of anything, we will write off all the debts. and if we even return to the drama in this article. a beautiful photo. at that time, the head of centnerbank was a drag who just saved the euro. well, what do you think ? greece. i'm sorry when the fight was fought and as a result , they still tightened their belts and were able to move. further , just like the american position, let's not forget that america is in the active phase of its election cycle, well, out of these five elections, there are also regular ones, we know that there the parliament is re-elected in parts. by the way, this is for them it is inherent in this way that the influence of pro-russian people is in no way smaller, although some people in ukraine actively listen to piontkovsky, for example, who regularly says that when pro-russian forces emerge in america, they are significantly less, but let’s not forget that he still exists. and i wouldn’t know that's what you're

saying, somewhere they wiped out a unit, they delivered us less high-marts, we react very sharply, we immediately vote for treason. i think that in america there is a party consensus regarding support for ukraine and these are the technical reasons. i think you can look at it from the side. relatively cautious position , they say that this is a refusal to support ukraine in any case. even on some small scandals that could be pointed out as something not serious, yes, there are some comments about the russian propaganda about where the weapons that pass into ukraine go, they will be in america and europe and so on , so it seems to me that some such a game of caution on the part of the americans, which is very

disadvantageous for us, but it can be observed, but it seems to me that so far there are no signs that show documents with arguments from our american partners, so to speak. it is about the fact that the united states itself also sees this problem, it is not about whether there is treason or not, but there is a legitimate question, but on the espresso broadcast, a couple of days ago there was a conversation with john herbst, the head of the eurasian center of the pre- atlantic organization cancel - this is the former ambassador of the united states states in ukraine, here is his direct quote , it is necessary to send 80 or even 100 haimas to ukraine and do it as soon as possible. our pentagon understands this, but there are other departments of the administration that do not understand this, unfortunately, and they are picking up the slack. we are somehow trying to find out something here, this is a weakness, we only know sullivan's last name, yes, but we

understand that now we are losing priceless priceless time, a month or a half, we still have so, so , the window of these opportunities is not really wide, mr. bozhko, russia the announced team on september 11 is going to hold a referendum on the whole day of single voting yes there is not enough time then, see how you can react to such informational messages well, first of all, we can do it classically, everything is treason, cool vasyliovych, everything is pro-russian and we have enemies there they dragged on, and the second moment was very correct. well, you know, as peter’s report on international relations, i can’t help but say that our good diplomacy is used here by the united states. and by the way, the pressure of the ukrainian public, because democracy is public, too. i’m sorry, no one cancels public diplomacy. and one more moment, these american experts, well, by the way, here are the former services of mr. hertz yes, with whom the ukrainian

side cooperates and who are these leaders of public opinion through whom you can promote the necessary ukrainian theses to ukraine in order to do not, well, do not shout treason, treason, and this is to put fair social expert pressure on those who make decisions so that if we well, if conditionally, you can put right at this moment, i don’t know, on a military expert, if you can, this moment to deliver or teleport 100 gaimers who have already been here thank you and let's give yaroslav the floor now so that he can evaluate the general question of a ... assumptions that there may be such, well, somewhat weak places for us, eh, definitely let's say this, biden's team began its term in foreign policy eh by trying to build a realistic pragmatic dialogue with russia, this

was visible not only in fact by the appointment of osalivan or the appointment of the head of the cia burns, who in principle understood russia, worked for some time in moscow in american diplomatic institutions , therefore, of course, the line was to make, you know, some sort of reconciliation even before the war with ukraine this was all and there was a step towards it in the form of the lifting of sanctions from the northern stream, but it is obvious that the russian side was not satisfied with this, that is, the russian side felt this as a weak position, as a readiness to withdraw from all regions and an unwillingness to interfere in anything realized that it there is a unique time for an invasion, after which it may already be too late, yes, and that is why the russian invasion actually happened because, it seems to me, they read the general line of the

american administration's position as quite weak that seeks to negotiate under any conditions, but the specifics are precisely the foreign policy of the u.s. in this case insists that everything can change radically under the pressure of circumstances right away from the wheels, so that is, umm, already several months before the war, it was clear it is clear that american intelligence accepted as a consensus the idea that the installation will still take place, it is not some illusory hybrid, it will be absolutely real, and here the american foreign policy has already begun to be restructured to prepare some packages yes, let's develop scenarios in general, and it seems to me that in this case we should not talk about the surnames sullivan or i don't know who verns is, we should consider the general situation and the interests of the united states, because they remain unchanged in principle, the victory of russia in them

however, it also does not include the conditions for the export of military technologies and the export of disarmament, which have never been easy in the united states, and all the weapons that are currently ukrainian talks have gradually, or rather imperceptibly, run out. thank you very much, gentlemen, for this great it is a joy and an honor to analyze these difficult questions with you maksym yakovlev, head of the international relations department of the national university of kyiv-mohyla academy, director of the school of political analysis, yaroslav bozhko , a political consultant, worked with us, it's time for the baby to go, in a few moments our colleague anzhelika will introduce them to us - this is zonenko and the whole team of espressov newsmen, whom i call angelica, we are passing on the word and what has happened in ukraine and the world during this hour. thank you colleagues for your work. you perform it very fruitfully as always well, we follow all the news, man