walk until it gets worse because it is obvious to everyone that it will not be like that, we are now tectonically going through a change in the configuration of our entire economy, future technology, medicine, culture, which i will talk about a little later. as before, there will be no news. as before, it is clear that the sanctions will not be lifted because it is clear that no peace will be signed on the terms of any ukraine, never any peace on their terms, and even more so in ukrainian terms. vysosanam iz plytsy other places of conditions will not be a verbal capitulation now putin uses the quality of weapons food heat sred gast children's toys shorthand use may god be with

them in the end but they themselves want this when we talk about the future of russia and the world, mr. valery we are trying to figure out what russia will be like without putin or whether russia will change without putin, but judging by these speeches, frankly speaking, it is not at all clear what to do with the whole country from the whole of russia, because this is only the tip of the iceberg we see the iceberg on television, but 70 or 80 percent are russians, i think the same way, what can the future be like with this state, even if we free all our territories that they captured, including crimea and donbass? well, i don't want to there to make forecasts, you know, just for coffee, there to guess at all, but uh, well, it’s

obvious to me that russia is going uh, down, that is, the economy, the sanctions are working, simonyan, uh, what is she doing, what is she, the kremlin is doing its job, the whole people is trying to somehow mobilize, that is it's hard for you but it is difficult for you because not because you are badly governed there, but because there is a war and in this regard hmm really. how is it not paradoxical that many people in russia can sit there and choose this bottle of vodka, sniff it with bread and then mean to be proud of how great they are, but they have such a part, not all, but a large part, that's why they play to this audience, which means that the first sanctions are working , and this is confirmed by the economic indicators of august, indeed, now they are starting to work seriously, unemployment sanctions will increase next

months very quickly, in principle, everything in russia is based on such a conditional contract, you are fighting there, you are lying, you are corrupt, you are buying yachts, but give us a minimum package so that i can have a drink, eat and watch tv there, the same semenyan or solovyova, this is the deal if there is no money in russia, the kremlin will keep this agreement eh i think the collapse and the collapse itself will be very catastrophic and we need to build eh when it will happen i won't say well they are going the way of the soviet union that is, they are just unfortunately being protected now to until now, the countries of the west, so that they do not fall apart and collapse. unfortunately, i state this thing to you. i see, i do not want to hide it. they are afraid of the western countries. france is afraid

of germany. then there will be cheap gas for hungary, on which the populists make themselves understand, no one imagines a world not without russia, but without cheap energy resources, without these cheap human resources, without it, they cannot imagine how to live in the future, but we will have to to build a strong wall along the entire border of russia and belarus. although i think that belarus is like that, sooner or later it will take a different path between russia, and russia will not take this path until it collapses, so we will not be able to strengthen the wall, it is primarily in the field of security to get this horde, no matter how strong or weak it is, if we are not in the system of collective defense and security, now it is nato, at least we need to have powerful systems on the borders, and therefore any proposals

of russia, what is lukashenko there, self-proclaimed something there he said why does ukraine have air defense systems and that they kill people children are killed by rockets lukashenka the bastard sorry for the emotions, that means we need to build such a line in order to show them that any attempt will be met with an answer, this is the first, the second, of course, in the future, we must will be strengthened because the refugees from russia, when it all falls apart, they will fall on our territory as well, and we also need to prepare for this, because we need to join the european union , somehow together overcome these challenges that will be in the future but in the future they will be honest, while the rods they stick in the donbas in ours are stopped in kherson, they are advancing, but this horde still needs to be

stopped, and the main thing is that this pit, i will say so allegorically, we will not jump two jumps, it will lead to some kind of temporary truce to the greater victims of ukrainians than us, after all, by joint efforts in order to throw them out of our territory, beyond our territory, you said that the west is quite cautious about forecasts and, in general, the possibility of collapse the russian federation, well, something similar happened in 1991 when the soviet union was disintegrating. what is the fundamental difference between how the soviet union disintegrated and how russia might disintegrate, and then and now there were fears not only about energy carriers , but also about what will happen with the nuclear weapons that the soviet union possessed, because it is clear that part of the nuclear charges were in ukraine and part in the russian federation, are nuclear

weapons now the factor that somehow restrains the world from making drastic moves against russia well, let's put it this way, in what way to speed up the collapse of the russian federation, are nuclear weapons such a factor or not, there were two questions, first, regarding nuclear weapons, i see that they cease to be a deterrent by the facts, nuclear weapons become a factor of blackmail for some countries, and russia has shown this, north korea would say this on it's a pity, it's a pity, it's a great pity , this is the concept that deterrence weapons will not kill people, they don't work ideally, nuclear weapons should be destroyed in general, weapons of mass effect well, but so far it's not like that, but ideally it is should be done in relation to russia, it was a big mistake to leave nuclear weapons to them after the collapse of the

soviet union, well, we were pressed, e . it is not possible russia with a nuclear arsenal and in the form in which it is going forward this is just a monkey with a grenade, that is, it is clear that the situation is very difficult, i will tell you more if putin could use nuclear weapons, i think, i think more than once tested this entire chain, whether they can or not, if he could , he did it a lot at this moment, he had already passed, so in principle, we need to talk about completely different things in the future. if we talk about the soviet union, there were a lot of different factors, but those are already directly what accelerated it the obfuscation

of such a basis of the unifying ideological fraud of the regime and the party that then ruled the second is the arms race, you remember then, er, reagan's initiative was simply the soviet union accumulating huge funds, taking away weapons from the people in this i just couldn't stand it economically, and of course, in this situation, the huge efforts of all people in republics who advocated independence , that is, i won't even say that this is the merit of the partners' initiative, on the contrary, they wanted to leave us in the soviet union but you remember that we had ukrainian people, the history of the liberation struggles, that everyone in lithuania and such was the same, the baltic country and this beastly rock of the soviet union, which gorbachev did not even cover up. gorbachev gave orders near vilnius near the tv tower

they are killing people in georgia, who was killing, he is the same as all of them, just the circumstances have changed, it’s just that weakness forced germany to leave, weakness forced it to go back, and then they made a bet on energy carriers, put the energy country and the west on the hook, and thus earned money for the war, and now here they are using funds , that is, in principle, the scheme is clear, they are going the way of the soviet union, it’s just that now no one wants to break them up, just as the usa wanted to break up the soviet union during the cold war, we have already mentioned valery about lavrov, who is on a tour of africa. there is to be a summit between russia, africa and ukrainian representatives, in particular, the special representative of ukraine in the middle east and africa, maksym sup said that african countries should, after all, avoid participating in this summit, what what

is pushing come on, by initiating this summit, and is moscow going to use african countries in the fight against a conditional collective measure, well, first of all, in africa, russia wanted and wants to have a position there, because, well, first of all, every country africa is a voice in the same un or in the security council of the un when african countries occupy this place. then there is the issue of the supply of weapons. i think lavrov is more likely to explain what is happening that they cannot fulfill the contracts because they are based on the principle of the supply of weapons . the russian one is now collapsing because they are using it against us against ukraine plus sanctions are in effect and they cannot have the same elements some are not supplied therefore they will have problems with exporting weapons to africa well, of course they do not want to have sales markets there and in

under the conditions of oscillation, they are imposed on those countries that did not join the sanctions to use all the vines that there in africa are powerful countries in principle and in those that you blow oil and from those positions also for this new policy although not in the first place, but all the same, that is, there are many interests in africa, which of the big countries, which, by the way, we have in ukraine. likewise, these interests must be worked with africa, obviously, i will tell you that the speech of the representative of kenya in the radbezion, well, it was exemplary speech of a diplomat who understands international processes, that is, there are countries in africa that are definitely on our side. well, there are those who, in this situation, want to win the situation, as it were, by maintaining neutrality . well, there are corrupt governments that russia also invests a lot of money to corrupt this government,

including in africa, friends, we work in live on the espresso tv channel and also on our social platforms on youtube and facebook please subscribe to our channels and like this well, if you watch us on youtube or on facebook well and remember that we are working for you 24 hours a day on our espresso tv website, mr. valery, another important topic is the future of belarus, the future of the self-proclaimed president oleksandr lukashenko, or rather his participation or non-participation in the great war against ukraine , deputy minister of internal affairs yevhen yenin talks about that ukraine is preparing for the worst scenario with which putin can pressure lukashenko, according to yenin, the leadership of ukraine controls the strengthening of engineering equipment for the defense of the northern

and western regions of ukraine, and as yenin says on at the moment, the drg may come from belarus to analyze transport routes, model possible directions for the advance of heavy equipment for the preparation of terrorist attacks on infrastructure facilities or near military units, but the deputy minister of internal affairs says that very drunk citizens are calling e-e to the special services of the ministry of internal affairs and have already received more than 3 million calls in this regard at the same time oleksandr lukashenko in an interview with france press talked about his vision of the end of the war in ukraine and outlined the range of conditions to which ukraine must agree let's see what lukashenko said . now, the peculiarity of the moment is that this war can be ended on more acceptable terms for

ukraine, well, no one will give ukraine a law that, in your opinion, ukraine should do to end this time, there is a negotiation table and it will be agreed that they will not threaten russia will never have on the territory of ukraine those weapons that will threaten russian territory, this is the main thing. and where nationalization is there, it is against this philosophy, believe me, this is the philosophy. the main thing is the security of russians, never russian power russia has this power and wealth, it will not retreat from this, give guarantees, help kiev and these guarantees will be successful.

km 500 km do not need such rockets why ukraine needs that to ensure peace in itself and then russia will guarantee the security of ukraine, that is, based on the logic of the self-proclaimed president of belarus, he needs s-300s and scanners in the country, despite the fact that nobody threatens belarus in particular, and ukraine should give up any weapons that seem to threaten the russian federation. this is just a full ball, because ukraine has never threatened the russian federation, they are now trying to, i understand that this is for the internal audience, all these fables about ukraine having to give certain guarantees to the russian federation. well, if that's not the case , the russian federation must fulfill its guarantees according to the budapest memorandum. russia must

fulfill its guarantees regarding inviolability . territory and integrity of ukraine, why did you and i discuss all this with this person, this is part of speaking so that our viewers clearly understand everything about him, he is no longer in charge of anything, he already knows what the taste of the kremlin will say and do, he is saving himself and he will save himself at a price life in our children, this is a man, if you can call him that, he said that in three days this war will last for three days, in four days they will fold, raise their hands and everything will surrender, i will tell you. honestly, there in 2014 year, i still thought that it couldn't be like that. well, this is an independent state, the people. no, he showed that he can, he

can, he can bend, he can sneer, he can be a vassal like that. unfortunately, now i have no faith in him, distrust, no faith, because he lied alone time second third wave back and forth it's clear that you don't want them they want to arm us he said what putin wants give all the weapons i already told you emotionally what i'm thinking about it here it's definitely something that can't be done under any circumstances our weapons, our opportunities in the future - this the lives of our children, the lives of our people, that's why they listen to him, they don't respect themselves. and as an element of analysis, what is going on between them? well, maybe, but let's say so, he won't be able to influence that anymore. they will give an order to advance to our territory with belarusian troops whether or not he will not affect it anymore because this moment has already passed. as far as i understand, well, i said that before the war began and they

located their bases not much there, asking , blackmailing, they put the planes there, and this is his story about training, some delusional well, this no is completely true, he understands this perfectly well, this person who is being cornered, who is trying and from that corner with putin will pop out somewhere and he is now looking for all these opportunities will pop out somewhere well, in principle, he is right only in one thing that we should really fear a collision with ukraine because if belarusians, uh, if i really didn’t want this. if the belarusians really enter our territory, which is already so open, it will be a huge tragedy for the two peoples of belarus and ukraine, but nothing, we will fix it, we will find a solution. you just give some statements in comparison with what he said in the first days. then after that

you will see that it is a lie, a lie, a lie, and it sucks , by the way, you mentioned belarusians and belarusian society, should we now divide what he says and how lukashenko is acting and what he can do or how belarusian society will behave in the event that the army of the republic of belarus sets foot on the land of ukraine. well, i think that the order. it is in such conditions it is a tribunal or should be dismissed in advance yes, that is, it is clear that it will not be all of them, it is clear that some of the russians are already there, including pilots on belarusian planes, that is, it is clear that many belarusians and officers do not want to leave

this village at all, because it is not only there aren't that many ties when they say family ties, we're friends, neighbors, unfortunately, it all doesn't work, but the minister of defense of ukraine promised his visas, they promised our head of the border guards that no, we won't enter your territory, and what about lukashenko promised but what are you? there will never be such a thing that there will be belarusian tractors, yes , and tanks, what about you? well, why are we talking , so they will only be afraid of the fact that they will just lie there like cannon fodder right away, and of course it will be so because we have the answer to the forces they have, unfortunately, they will destroy theirs in the future. for belarus, lukashenka is a separate story . if many even cross the border,

many will not participate in it. that is, us we will have a large number. well, here is a picture that was similar to the situation in the first days of the war, when there were russians in the kyiv region, so, well, but one way or another, it is a pity. the situation that distracts our forces and does not allow us to advance more actively while saving lives that is , every act of support for the dictator lukashenka is with the belarusians - this is the murder of our people, every act of the belarusians who are fighting in kalinov's units in ukraine, who are abroad in the opposition e-e are taking opposition steps that destroyed the railway there i hope the partisans of the belarusian times will show it for the benefit of the future of belarusians, first of all , that is why there are different people, of course, but you know how to divide it. it is

very difficult because there are also different people in ukraine, but in our country yanukovych was led to the wrong place . they were shooting, yes they were shooting, people were walking under bullets. well, the belarusians, unfortunately , were not able to do this, the circumstances are different. but history simply puts the dots on the biot and now mr. valery is receiving one more friend, russia. i wanted to mention viktor urban, the prime minister of hungary, who stated that vladimir putin attacked ukraine because he had no other choice, that he was allegedly preparing some specific proposals for the event and said that some specific security requirements . armed conflict to war to ensure what could not be done with the e-e event, well, with nato and the united states of america, or

hungary, a country that is a member of the european community of the euro-atlantic community, orban makes such ambiguous statements and how should it be done in this situation - this is to perceive, that is, whether a member country that is part of the euro-atlantic european structures can, in this case, openly stand up to the west in defense of russia and, well, actually advocate for putin on the net . you can’t say that to all these workers, because after sowing, he went to

the creamery and immediately made a hunchback according to the kremlin’s method, and made a statement, well , that’s the problem of nato. what in principle do they have inside such a country? well, it absolutely acts on consecutively because the same hungary official this statement this challenge the russian ultimatum that was presented to nato they all supported well in opposition to the ultimatum it was a joint decision by consensus nato and hungary supported this position well now winter we need to sell something in the information space of the russians, the bodies are spinning. but this is really a problem for nato, for the european union. i think that they see this, they see it, they take some kind of measures because hungary receives big funds from the eu from eu funds well, this is a gas pipeline from the north to the south and the supply of gas from russia

is one of the foundations of the urban government, that is, this government is now supported by the majority of the population democratically , that is why it is elected, well, it is based on some this does not mean that he is simply alone, so everything is not so simple here, but on the other hand , it is necessary. well, i obviously should not be under illusions. that is , this is the leader who is even democratically elected, who is sticking a knife in the back of nato right now, or can he stick this knife in case russia dares to attack, for example, the west of ukraine, and we are talking about transcarpathia, you are telling us about the story that hungary will attack ukraine there and they will take away the territory, yes, that’s me, i

don’t believe this story in russian. despite all this, hungary is our neighboring country and the situation will be leveled by a change of government in hungary in the future. we have, er, quite normal relations. we have a lot of problems that arose from the populists who are currently in power in hungary, not only here in brussels, but also that the situation will change in us and in the cities hungarians that there are not many ukrainians now they are helping ukrainians humanitarianly so i think that i experienced it during this period yes no about what kind of attack is there on ukraine from the side of hungary i think to enter the language it is russian methodical thank you mr. valery for the conversation i will remind our viewers that this was valery chalyi, a diplomat, a politician, and extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2016-2019. i wish you good health, and i will tell our viewers the following

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