the participation of er when signing this agreement did not take responsibility for security for security, so here er, what are the biggest, what are the biggest fears in this situation? be any provocations on the part of russia, this caravan is actually a target for the aggressor, it can be a clear blow, as we see , numerous provocations are being carried out on the territory of ukraine, then we will be told about changes and more something well, this is a danger. well, secondly , there really is a skill, and in order for all this to work

, special vessels are needed that will clean the fairway, yes, well, this is also a separate separate task facing the organizers. that is it is turkey, of course, it is here for someone or in the middle or for itself , by the way, not always for itself well, we can observe that turkey very actively bought grain that was exported from the occupied crimea and took part in the turkish campaign, it was received from turkish ports and turkey refused when there was an appeal to ukraine for a trial that came from berdyansk, she begged and released him and refused to give such legal aid to ukraine

, that is, this is the position of turkey, on the other hand, when these negotiations began, several judges who came from crimea were detained in turkey with grain and they, uh, stood there for some time at the anchor stoyanka, uh, i understand that they were checking documents there, and ukrainian law enforcement agencies were contacted about these vessels. well, two of them have already been released , they unloaded and went back, thank you, ma'am kateryna kateryna yeresko, a journalist of the crym-center peacemaker project, was our guest, and they can’t help but read in the news, at least for the telegraph , it is written that boris johnson can become the next secretary general of nato, but so far this is the information at the

media level. but if it is true, this position will be held in the fall to resign. for us, this is very good news. let's talk about education. serhiy babak is with us, the head of the parliamentary committee on education, science and innovation, mr. serhiy. we congratulate you. have a good day. first of all, i have a question. relevant from what i saw today sumyshchyna this is my native region and the students of the medical university there recorded a video appealing to all people involved in medicine and education that they cannot complete the internship and get documents because they said money there is no time for this right now. you know that such a situation is local or throughout the country. they cannot become doctors, and we need doctors now. we also need doctors. we always need them and will be needed . i think that in the same quantities not less than a but we must understand that institutions of higher education in

the medical field are subordinated to the ministry of health, and their budgets are currently unknown, and how about the budget of the ministry of health in our country? hmm, in institutions that are subordinate to the ministry of education, there seem to be no such problems but this situation has nothing to do with your committee dealing with education, i.e. a bunch of people who studied there for years. now they can't get a diploma either because the internship is slipping due to money. perhaps you will be able to find out about this problem, we are asking you very much, mr. serhiy, from all the students of sumy oblast , i have been studying there for 7 years. it seems that this is a very difficult path that has been passed and now the question is at the finish line. we need to help our students . i am sure. we will talk with the health care committee and the ministry of health care, we will find a solution . thank you, what about our education in general, because here i am, yehor's mother, father, in a month, the educational

process in ukraine is there any solution, more or less consolidated with border territories and non-border territories and where it is hot right now everything is quite simple, unfortunately, it is complicated at the same time you know that we have more than 2,000 damaged educational institutions in particular especially 220 years after the black completely why eh yes of course we wish for that too said the presidents, the prime minister and our minister, we constantly talk about the fact that we want the children to return to school, we had three difficult years, two of them with covid-19, now there is a war and the children study remotely , which in no way contributes to the quality, we all understand that distance education cannot fully replace offline education, therefore, of course, we strive, but the issue of safety is the first priority, this is the number one issue, if we do not take all necessary measures to ensure the safety of children during the educational process and teachers, of course, this process will take place at a distance and now the local government is actively working to

create e-e shelters in schools, universities, all educational institutions, in kindergartens, in particular , so that children can fully attend, of course, in those regions where there are active offline hostilities there will be no education, no one will take such responsibility and no one wants to expose children to danger in those regions where it is more calm with the presence of shelters, e.e. the educational process will begin offline or in a mixed format or even remotely, but it is decided by the founder and the local authorities if we we are talking about kindergartens and schools. they families will decide whether it is safe to be at school or whether it is safe to keep the children offline and engage with him. therefore, this is the decision of the founders. we have done all the necessary the preparatory work is now with the commission, which was jointly created by the ministry of education and science, the ministry of internal affairs and the state emergency service, which examines all educational institutions for the presence of shelters and

provides, most importantly, everything necessary in these shelters and so that they are accessible and quickly accessible to children in in the case of air, the situation changes every day. at the moment, i cannot tell you exactly how many percent of schools, for example, are ready to accept the educational process offline in kyiv. it is now about a quarter of in ukraine, the state emergency service says that in the area of ​​11-12% of these schools, but the situation changes every day , shelters are created every day, local authorities are actively working on this, we are helping, that is, the only necessity is important for each school so that it receives the status of a school that is ready to accept offline of schoolchildren is the presence of a bomb shelter, a shelter , and everything is so accurate. this is the number one task, or safety above all else, but it will actually decide in which e-e, in which mode the school will work. from september 1, the pedagogical council will decide on this or that event

there are simply other points, for example, on the territorial approach to a military unit or an infrastructural military object there, if the school is close by, for example, it stands next to a military unit, then this is probably also a subject for discussion . the school will be watched by the local authorities and it will be decided by sergius yes, it will be decided first of all by the commission of the ministry of internal affairs of the ministry of internal affairs and the state emergency service, they clearly understand where the military is located. yes, we should not talk about it. we can publicly, but they know exactly where they are. there is a risk that they may fly into a nearby facility, of course, we will also push away from that, or if there are, let's say, the military are temporarily stationed there, they will be moved if possible, and if not, then the school will work and there is understanding why it is very often educational institutions, schools and kindergartens in our country that become the objects of bombing because the

military was stationed there or are there any other reasons. it seems to me that this is more an element of intimidation. and i honestly fear that under 1 in september, we will be able to receive some more flights to educational institutions because often there is no one there and these institutions are on vacation . i don't know for what reason they are shelled . but it seems to me that this is just an element of intimidation of our society by the aggressor but you said that we all know the quality of online education. and why is there such an opinion that online education is much worse? by the way, i am currently talking to many schools that offer a lot, now they offer online services of private schools, so understanding that someone abroad someone will search here and they will say that there is such a trend now that those who went abroad realized that we have a better higher level of education than there. well, maybe this is not the general picture,

but uh, you can't confirm that information, that's a request from those who now abroad for our education is saved and even online yes, it is true and uh and the first and second part that you said are both true and in our country, unfortunately, we underestimate ourselves and our education level, in fact, our education level is quite high now i also hear a lot from er foreigners to which er the ministry of education or the education administration of these or other countries they say that indeed your children are prepared well in some places much better than ours especially this applies to natural sciences therefore we should be proud of our education and that is why children even if they are in in other countries and received access or a place in the middle bag by the police or another country. they still want to study in ukrainian schools, let it be online for now, but they are happy to return to ukraine.

they offer courses for them after those european schools, visiting our schools is great. i think that in our country it is often done in parallel, in fact , because the programs do not differ much, the programs differ in the language of history, there are elements of the culture of one or another country, and natural science is, in principle, very it is similar across countries and the school program is similar. therefore, children try to study offline in that country and online in ukraine, and we know that they may receive both certificates of general secondary education, but we do not know whether they are everywhere the russian language was studied in the same way as we have in some schools there, for example, in lviv, the same in sumy , we had russian language classes, so русская великая литература. the petition that was published will they cancel the russian language and russian literature in our country or not eh let's cancel it hmm they won't

be able to i'm sure it shouldn't be done i'm explaining why there is a law on national minorities anyway and everyone is a national minority anyway to respect the law, even in spite of this, let's say we have an aggressor, yes, and his language, which used to be ubiquitous in our country, yes, if that's how it goes, look, in 30 years, we have greatly reduced it to isolated cases, in fact russian-speaking schools have already closed them according to our law, which we adopted a year and a half ago, and hmm , now it simply decreases to almost zero, but russian-speaking classes are all that can remain because, well, there are national minorities, we can’t say that they don’t exist, they don’t exist anyway sometimes there is a desire to create russian classes, we cannot interfere with this, but the decision in any case is made by the founder, in this case i know that the lviv region refused to create russian-language classes, they have the right to do so, there is nothing

wrong with this, it concerns russian literature, really russian literature. now it is very strong the review is going on, actually, of the russian part in foreign literature, come on, let’s say. we don’t have a separate subject in schools of russian literature, but there is a foreign one, and literally the other day we the ministry of education met with a commission that conducted a revision of foreign literature and almost the entire russian-language part of the compulsory program was excluded. there were some discussions, they are still going on. the ministry has not officially made a decision. he lived in kyiv, but they say, well, there is confirmation that he was , in fact, a ukraine phobe, but there is a question, for example, about the work the heart of a dog, why can't it be studied because there is a position, for example, what does he make fun of in this work actually, it is not just the soviet union, it is all mine in

the form in which it is now, so you know, sometimes you can use the expression “the enemy, his tools, whether or not, which make fun of ukrainianness , we are not removing that which glorifies the russian peace , it should be removed one hundred percent from the program, and it everything will be removed now, the program is just changing and i think that the recommendations of the commission are quite weighted and they were all supported by this holder. i think that we will reduce to a minimum or to zero, in principle, the russian literature that will be in foreign for literature, it will definitely not be mandatory, even the heart of a dog, yes, it will be optional as additional reading, it may remain, but again, the decision will be final with the ministry. the regional council, the city council, which self-government body makes such a decision, it is the founder , the founder of the school is a united territorial

community in any school, it is communal schools in ukraine, there are almost 15,000 of them, and the decision is made the pedagogical council of the institution together with the education department of the united territorial community, that is, in lviv and mykolaiv, it was decided at the level of the city council, yes. the fact that they refused the russian language . we have a number of educational institutions that have been destroyed already today, as of monday, there were 221 schools and kindergartens, that's all kindergartens and schools, universities and professional educational institutions, mr. serhiy, i have another question about distance learning still seems to be in our country, you can correct me, there is currently no distance program of a public school that provided its services

for free, why why people who left, who became refugees abroad or internally displaced within ukraine cannot receive distance education for free, i ask this is a very good question. i ask you thank you for it. in fact , during the covid-19 pandemic, we created an all-ukrainian school online, which is absolutely free. it cannot be called a full-fledged distance school, but there let's say that we have all the materials for independent training , we have an international ukrainian public school that provides its services for free and those children who are abroad can use its services, i know that several thousand children during the large-scale armed aggression joined this school and there they received a certificate of complete general secondary education, but the question is valid, the question is being discussed and we have been discussing it for several months , although in principle we talked about it first, with covid in our country, we talked about the need the creation of a separate state distance school that

would provide services for free, unfortunately, there was no budget for this. unfortunately, not a single penny was provided for this in the last two hands, and this decision is yes. let's say yes, well, it was considered i don't know, not a priority , for sure now. about this with the ministry all the time. unfortunately , we all know the financial situation in our country, but we will look for funds from donors in order to create a proper distance online school , and it is a free and very progressive public school thank you, serhiy babak, the head of the parliamentary committee on education, science and innovation, because he is our guest. well, now every school that is partly remote has had such an experience, and obviously some schools will continue it in september, but we are missing one common one, we hope we will get to it mykola chornotyskyi, continue with us chairman of the board of public broadcasting mr. mykola congratulations, i congratulate you from education to eurovision let's

move on to the 23rd year, this contest will be held in britain on behalf of ukraine, details tell us please, in connection with what is this decision, well, it is clear , in connection with what, uh, if the nuances of such a decision as it will be passed, what is known now, well, look at the european broadcasting union as an organizer that conducts the eurovision song contest, they had obvious reservations about security the situation as far as we as a country and we as speakers can guarantee this, we fed them about certain interactions with the government , uh, our elaborated risk map, how should you be, we reduce the risks as their worker leaves, unfortunately , their evaluation was well, they evaluated them, what are we, after all still we cannot provide. then there were several more rounds of negotiations regarding other options for cooperation with other countries on the territory of other countries, after all, and even then they have, well, in the euro- in the european union, before that it

considered that since britain is the second place at the competition, they are a priority for holding, we had sufficiently constructive discussions with the general director of the british british public broadcaster timovi and we actually reached an agreement on this option when in great britain conducts on behalf of ukraine, but taking into account the ukrainian agenda, conditionally speaking, there are tunes to some identities, there are re- presentations of ukraine in the town of eurofans, etc. financial, because i will remind you that it is quite an expensive pleasure to hold eurovision, after all, it will be the most optimal solution of the construction that we announced on monday, that is, britain will take on the

financial obligations of 2023 the funds of the british public broadcaster, and there have already been such cases in the history of the contest, when another country held absolutely this is not the first time . to football, not to songs. how do you answer this question, how should we behave, or should we spend our energy and attention on something like international competitions, or eurovision, well, look, i think it's worth it, since it includes cultural representation is important in order to be on the permanent agenda in europe, and since we are already nominally candidates for the euro-

european family, we should be represented there, including culturally, so i consider this an important part works and cultural diplomacy should be the kalush band, we will remind you about opening a competition in britain, are there already plans for how it will happen organizationally, and since we are only the presidential public broadcaster, it is only starting this work, only entering this phase, but let's say that our the vision that kalush should open was transferred to the british public broadcaster and they reacted well enough to it, but i am not ready to announce the final decision yet, because the british public broadcaster is just starting this work, so it is too early to say definitively whether there are already any decisions, but we are also talking about this now, mykola, i generally wanted to

ask you about the public broadcaster, what is going on there now , how are the public broadcaster and the public broadcaster financed, and the public broadcaster is a participant in a single telethon. is there currently a reduction in the creative team at the moment, please tell us about it , and at the moment, if we have already moved away from the eurovision song contest on the public broadcaster, in fact, we are dependent on budget funding, and accordingly. the objective situation with finances in the state is, well , we understand everything at the moment, half of our team is on layoff, because we cannot produce. well, the company in the company there will be a certain transformation planned, but we are still i am working on this, these people are on vacation at their own expense. was he paid to pay? the legal function is simple - it is when a person receives 2/3 of his official salary, that is, 2/3 of people

receive and do not work. there are concepts in legal practice that are simple and uh the employee and there is a concept of labor, the employer is responsible for the submitted representation , as well as the regional management, the representative is more, they are somewhere around 25-30% idle, because most of the territory, thank god, everything is working fine, but only the branches and what well for example, his branch in donbass, which was obviously the evacuated part, is not working at full capacity uhu there, mykola, well, you shouldn’t count other people’s money, but since it’s for other people’s money, in fact, our money is from our taxes, i want you too, i can’t help but ask before the war, well, there was an e- it's not a scandal. it's not a scandal. it's not a scandal. there is enough information in the media about the fact that the members of the public broadcaster's board have salaries 5-6 times more than the president of ukraine's. now they are in a state

of war. well, the president has 28,000. how much was there before the war for members of the public administration? well, there is uah 120-140,000. now, in the conditions of the war, have these sums decreased or not? have they also decreased anywhere ? in accordance with the contracts, mr. mykolyas, the story is manipulative enough to compare with the president, let's compare with this channels, there is a market. accordingly, we , as a company that works on the market, make inquiries to the relevant e-e international agencies that give what is happening in the market should be adjusted accordingly. in addition, i would like to remind you that the top management is under the supervision of the supervisory board. and for all my desire, i can not let any employee

. the object is objective, so in accordance with our incomes, we must react and accordingly work effectively , that is why i told you before that about the transformation that is planned, that is, i have already told about transformations, reductions, this is an incorrect statement , this is precisely about the transformation, we have what in the conditions of war, when the entire team there receives 2/3, and the management is still the same as before, well, there is uah 140,000. well, for sure, if there are no questions written in the contract. on behalf of the state, it is signed by the prime minister, who signed it, signed it, i said, the supervisory board, the supervisory board, which one is formed by whom, i'm sorry, it's a little unprofessional on your part, yes, momentum.

half of the representatives represent factions but are not deputies, half of the representatives represent public organizations, respectively, according to the directions , okay. thank you for the information, mr. mykolay, that now in our country public is considered such a tuning fork of the media market. i would like your analysis. divide this slot in the marathon among other participants and in general, what is happening with the media market, many of my colleagues are there now, well , among our colleagues, who is out of work, who is taking a taxi to work as a dj on the radio as i understand it's just that this slot is divided in turn, now all the participants of the telethon are taking it right for now yes, it is distributed among the other participants of the marathon everyone who has everyone who is there so and a little, well, a little bit, there was a rush, so if the marathons, well, well, there per hour , there was no more work, relatively speaking, that is, the structure of production has changed somewhat, but if we

talk about the market, it is really the output of the media group ukraine - it is a large private media group that occupied a significant share of the market, that is enough, well, if such a shocking situation, and i think that this is not the last metamorphosis in the market that is taking place, because you understand that the income from the advertising market also objectively fell , so i think that this is not the last metamorphosis that will take place this year with market and what are your forecasts for what will happen to the market because not only fm stations but now no one is making money, there is no advertising. i think that objectively the number of participants in traditional media will decrease and non-traditional media will appear. i mean more everything still there will be more spillover to dj because it is objectively cheaper to produce, everyone will go to youtube, and when do you think telemetry will resume? because previously there was only one

company, well, its name was nielsen, which did this telemetry and whose indicators everyone trusted and considering the indicators the price of advertising was formed there minutes seconds now there is no measurement in general and the market is advertising and quite relative everyone sets their own price when the phone will be restored the measurement of your feelings i i think by the end of the year there will be some kind of model for measuring this, because after all, something needs to be done. advertising agencies and advertisers must understand what they are paying for, so the biggest problem is to make this distribution correctly, where are these panelists located, and about objectively, we should not think about classes - let's say old school about this story, so much with television measurement. i would like that since consumption objectively changes, we should also talk about the totality that people spend with

digital radio, yes, that is, all the media that are on the market. they must be in this section, well, in this figure, in this measurement, and not only the classical one, as it was before, well, it is easier to measure there, and you can do it without an order, but this is a hot topic of discussion, we will discuss everything in the future, thank you who joined our broadcast, mykola chernatytskyi, the head of the board of public broadcasting, we talked about eurovision and the media market in general, what are we saying goodbye to, igorchichorinda, was with you, were with you for the last five hours on the sts channel angelica is not staying for the season and the whole espresso team, please be with us, took the first step to the groups. a 3:2 victory at the swedish aicom brought the ukrainians closer to achieving their goal. in order to finally break the swedish wall, it is necessary to bring the matter to a general triumph in the return match.

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