ukrainian or pro-russian position, turkey attempts to rebuild itself as a regional super-power, accordingly, it attempts to stand on one side of the conflict, on the other side, to be involved. and on the basis of its own interests and as of today, there is no need for turkey, and even from the point of view from the point of view of simply advertising their own military-industrial complex, or sell or manufacture barrectors of russia , because the first one is against where they can find themselves, they can find themselves, let's say, in armenia, that's already a threat to azerbaijan, they can show themselves on the ukrainian russian-ukrainian front, and in this case, when there is a conflict on one side, it is good advertising, when there are strikes from both sides, it is not clear, plus, it is simply a moral choice to sell weapons to one of the participants in the third conflict - the same coast, and in syria, where the

danger is already specific to the turkish military, therefore, putin in this case can ask for anything, anything, but the production of barrectors and the sale of these e-apparatus of the russian the federation is very unlikely. well, the topic that we want to talk about all the time today sounds extremely optimistic. the very title of the authoritative british publication the telegram reports that the prime minister of great britain, boris johnson, who will soon leave his post, can become the next secretary general nato, what do you think about this information and about the prospects of such a career promotion of johnson for ukraine so that they know that for us he will most likely be one of the candidates and most likely germany, france and france will be categorically against it, just like hungary, and most likely,

as a predox, it will be a very difficult test for boris johnson if he runs for office in case of success. well, there will also be certain private contacts of the leadership of ukraine from the grand room but it must be remembered that the concept is again not an auto, not an autocratic ruler of the entire nato. he is not a dictator there or the head of the country, he only implements the decisions made by the countries that are part of the citizenship of the northern dance, the atlantic alliance , therefore, the fighter johnson can press or propose a certain summons that will be a solution for ukraine, but hope that this will be an angel with white wings behind his back who will solve all the problems of ukraine. i don't think it's worth it. thank you. mr. zishkevich ihor tyshkevich, an expert

on the ukrainian institute and the future, was in touch with us and right now we are moving on to the situation in the donetsk region. is in donetsk, congratulations mr. andriy, good day. well, let's start with fresh news from your direction. what is the situation in donetsk now ? the enemy continues to terrorize the local population with endless artillery barrages and rocket strikes, which today he directs at cities on civilian infrastructure, provoking thus humanitarian disaster in the region, our

freedom battalion, which is fighting as part of the fourth operational brigade of the national guard, is currently in one of the areas of the front, continuing to carry out combat tasks. that is, we know well what is happening specifically in our area, the situation there is stable, wants to be difficult, the enemy is unable to advance anywhere, and in principle, the general the plus-minus situation is somewhere the same along the entire uh-hmm line, then in donbas, that is, the uh-huh enemy has greatly lost its offensive potential after many months of fighting and has suffered heavy losses seriously damaged their logistics, the operation of haimars systems and continues to harm them, but of course the battle continues and it will not be easy, that is,

there are no rose-colored glasses. i assumed that in fact it is possible that the main combat operations have already taken place at this stage of the war except for the counteroffensive of ukraine in the south, but again here we maintain the regime of silence that is asked of us in the armed forces and we will not be here strongly develop the opinion, but there is something that june says. if it is likely that this war will pass after some time for some kind of pause, this stage will simply cease to be acute, but it will resume in a few months , in a year, in 5 years or in 10 years, that is, this war will not end as if maybe many people would like some kind of peace treaty or simply by driving russia to some administrative borders,

what do you think about it? well, look, i'm sure that strategically, that is, there is well, let's say the operational-tactical level. there is a strategic level if we talk at such an operative and tactical level, then of course everything must be done to liberate ukrainian territory and put an end to the occupation of our land by the occupiers, this is the number one task and this is the minimum task . in its current form, what kind of imperial monster are we talking about, absolutely regardless of who will be in power, just the fact itself, if this system is preserved, then 5-10-20 years will pass and there will be a new war, that is, it is obvious that muscovy as long as it exists, the empire until it crumbles into dozens of new independent states. i

do not believe that we will ever have a long-term peace with them, that is, there may be some periods of calm, there should be something similar to the arab-israeli conflict when there there are hot phases, there are periods of relative silence, but i understand that my words may not be liked by many who think that one day they will wake up in the morning and it will all end like a terrible dream. well, unfortunately, i am convinced that we have to get up very militarized, well, if it weren’t for the fact that, unfortunately, we just keep pretending to be a super-militarized country. and there should be absolutely everything, general military training, total training of all reservists, constantly, not for a long time, really, but weapons in every house. well, that’s it. that’s our fate if we want to live. well, that’s it. israel somehow lives. it can combine a constant military threat with normal life. i see no other way for us, and i

understand that it is difficult for many people to come to terms with this, but it will not be any other way here, we are here in such a situation with such a neighbor that until he is liquidated as an otaka, there is a political tension that will constantly go away from him , his imperial ambitions will constantly go away. to such a supermilitarized country well, they will leave. probably, there will be those who will actually accept such a format, as it were. well, just as not all ethnic jews moved to live in israel, some part remained in other countries to drink and still live there. who understood that they were going and that it would be necessary to defend this territory, including with weapons in their hands. well, here they are. they founded this israel, that is, in the form in which it is now, that is, something like the reverse may happen, because jews came to israel who were very wanted to create their own state, they were in a certain sense, in a good sense, super-nationalists, while in ukraine

the reverse process may take place, but this means that it is possible that people who want to build ukraine on such conditions will also come, and i have a simple question clarification literally because there are many people who were uh before the start of a full-scale war abroad and who worked there for some years there something uh when the full-scale war started they returned to ukraine someone left ukraine and they returned to ukraine so somewhere so they super just super militarized countries are also different, there is israel, which is super militarized but also super successful with a powerful economy, which does not beg for money, does not depend on the help of a very strong union, although it depends, of course, but nevertheless it has a powerful enough independent economy, he is the undisputed leader of the region, he also has a technological level of the world scale. and there is , for example, the same north korea. where the country is also super-

militarized, but it is extremely poor and, uh, totalitarian, this is what path ukraine will choose, because we are a literate country. it seems to me that there are two poles , definitely, and here you just have to understand that ukrainians will never live in a dictatorship, er, that is, er, freedom of will is in our blood, er, we are such people by nature that we will never accept totalitarianism dictatorship and we already planted it on the maidan and now people are fighting for it, including for living in a free country armed with a militarized country - this does not mean a concentration camp, it means a country of free people who have something to defend and so i am absolutely convinced that now the muscovites have already lost absolutely on some strategic initiative . let's say that they even maybe somewhere they will advance, but this is already a complete failure of their

strategy that they set for themselves from the beginning and even the one that they set for themselves and after they said that the second phase of the special operation is starting, but still, there is still a lot of work ahead, we need to at least liberate our entire territory within the constitutional borders inclusive, and we also need to work to ensure that this enemy does not return, and he will not return only in that case if he will understand that the country is extremely strong in the military sense, and that is why i believe that the militarism of the country does not actually mean that the country will fight, it means that it most likely will not fight because with such country, no one will want to do business in the sense of fighting or attacking such a ukraine, therefore, as a guarantee of future peace, we need to become very strong militarily and take an example from israel, such a model that

i believe will be completely acceptable in ukraine and society. it seems that we already have something completely different than it was even six months ago, ah, ah, a lot of people have had a complete breakdown of consciousness. and completely different values ​​are now in the first place , that is, we must finally understand what absolutely clear, clear situation, there is a certain category yes, mr. andriyovych, those who are there are watching how did they elect a judge of the constitutional court today from the pro-government party, which is prohibited simply prohibited by the law on the constitutional court, or how was this mr. kostyan appointed today, who in crimea is permanently occupied, the prosecutor's gene gene was wandering back and forth i'm not sure that everyone has changed so much, but there is no need for them all to change, the critical mass will change , but the maidan what did everyone do and now everyone is fighting, well, if only that part of society would be on its own drag the country further, it has changed and

there is already a critical mass of people who will not allow the fact that there was a dictatorship in the country, who will not allow the country to be again er-er description of the weapon as it was since the 90s, when nuclear weapons were given later they simply dismantled the army for 20 years, they simply did everything methodically so that the army simply did not exist and they had to simply create it from scratch, in fact later, but all this is absolutely ahead. i am convinced that after the victory we will feel such inner strength that all these problems are our eyes traditional, there is corruption, there are some uh, all the endless ukrainian uh, all our so-called troubles and so on, i think that they will not seem to us well, not at all as huge and insurmountable as they used to be, because if you stand we will definitely win, then with this sense of victory we will overturn mountains mr. andrew, today british intelligence in its market report reported that these wagners are

operating in the donbass and probably they managed to carry out a tactical offensive in the area of ​​uglygir tpp and the neighboring village of novoluhanske that some ukrainian forces have probably left this area. what do you know about this? what is known about the activities of the wagnerites in donbas, in particular in the area of ​​the uglehir tpp, and why is this point so important for the russians? they have been trying to capture it for weeks and connected before that, we see our own hired war criminals well , first of all, i will still rely on the official information of the general staff, because well, i will not say anything superfluous and, in principle, we do not know much about the details because we a little on another direction we are in, but the bottom line is that there is a certain tactical plan carried out by the general

staff and a strategic plan, and accordingly, if such a decision was made, then it means that there was some military necessity for this, some military logic, that is, to think that this is something very bad, i would absolutely not said that is, this is a transition to some improvements that are more convenient for further actions of the positions, this is, first of all, secondly, what concerns the wagners there, all of you, all the rest. well, after all, you have to understand that they have , on the one hand, huge losses, because precisely these are the units there, their mercenaries, uh, their summer units, special forces landing marines , they suffered the most losses because they attack, they storm and they bear the biggest losses, that is, their combat capability is now significantly reduced , it is not completely eliminated, unfortunately, but significantly reduced secondly it seems to me that it's one thing when these wagnerites or, well, how they

present themselves there, what is it like? there's just some super-duper bc there, uh, they're positioning themselves like that, well, look. it's one thing to run there on some by unarmed people somewhere in africa in the jungle , and it is a completely different matter to deal with the ukrainian army. this is a slightly different level, and therefore i would not exaggerate their potential there. that is, it is possible that there are among them professional killers with a lot of experience who are there they really have some skills, but they can use them to imagine something incredible about them. well, it seems to me that this is the work of russian propaganda, which is trying to cause fear or some kind of panic in this way. they don't show anything in particular and bear the same name. so we have already destroyed so many of these wagnerites in

ukraine, including in er luhansk region during the battles that there is a suspicion that these are attempts to hire mercenaries from remote regions of er from among citizens of the countries of central asia, prisoners, so representatives of depressed regions, that's right, from there now, wagner's private military company is being replenished. uglehir tpp e-e the latest news just a few hours ago, the international news agency reuters wrote about the fact that it is not known what is really happening there after the russians, russian mercenaries from wagner, posed near the ughleghir tpp, there is no way to verify the authenticity of these footage published on social networks, there

is no accurate data did the vugleghirska tpp really come under the control of the russian occupiers, one way or another, the working part will not be left unharmed, reuters reports. we remember that the analysts of the institute for the study of war point out that it is unlikely that the russians will be able to capture uh-uh the whole of donetska, as they ah-ah want it. well, we will talk about it now, and about this with our next expert, defense express expert ivan kyrychevskyi, join us on congratulations, mr. ivan . good day. well, it's super fresh. i see the news and let's make deliveries, and actually it's like the german stern wrote about the weather . three that have recently been transferred to us are going to be transferred

well, this is probably cool enough, i would say that this would mean that maybe you know a little more already, mr. him unfortunately, so far i only know him exactly the same thing that we can only skip based on the data that is from open sources, judging by the fact that it will be the very new panzer howitzer , because the contract value of 1.7 billion euros is divided by 147 output art installations and it turns out that it is as much as 17 million euros per car and accordingly what will it be exactly the new ones that will be produced there in some ways, of course, on the one hand, it is in our interests that we receive new cars, but on the other hand, even to the primary sources that we will now discuss, we directly indicate that this contract is not even only to cover some of our current needs, well, that is, that these are all who panza now we have arrived in an organized manner, conditionally speaking, in the kherson direction and let's thresh pigs there , this contract has been concluded, and also, so

to speak, for the future, in that the plan is that these armored howitzers - that's where 100,000,100 units will be necessary for the post-war development of the armed forces of ukraine, he thought. just now, no one has any illusions that after that, depending on what the result of the introduction of the war will be in our country, well, even if we take the most optimistic one, that there is the beginning of 2023 and we in general we will return to the border of 1991, even if everything will be the same. neither here nor in other european countries will there be an opportunity to carry out a certain demobilization of the armed forces of ukraine. on the contrary, all the states, including ukraine well, who are the unlucky neighbors of you and the russians , they will maintain a certain level of spending on armaments, according to the type of tsigav, promised to be useful even after the victory over the russians , roughly speaking, so that the russians do not

dare to attack us anymore, mr. ivan, we see information on to the defense express website that the liberation of the government of the settlements of the kherson region and the expansion of the base of the armed forces of ukraine on the western bank of the ingulets river , 70 km from kherson, is actually owed by the ukrainian army to our aviation. please tell me more about it, how exactly attack aircraft helicopters contribute now to the liberation of temporarily occupied settlements, we see that we are liberating them and already about andriyivka luz-lozovo biloghirka, we can talk like that, let's talk about the actual purpose of aviation in the liberation in a counteroffensive, well, you know how it is, of course, you can we will be able to speak somehow so objectively, for example, about what you know, somehow so more or less so general at such an academic level already after the victory, when

all the data opened there will be available, because now we can only operate with such approximate data there based on previous calculations there , well, what sounds there, except during the e-e in every morning summation, but we can roughly state the following, let’s say here e-e well, for example, at such a basic level were there on social networks. they saw photos there, such interesting large-caliber rockets there, 300 mm there, and raised by stormtroopers, well, there are all kinds of messages so warm and pleasant for the people of roshest there. here for mykolaiv and vinnytsia, as they say, the rockets are not simple and not just, they are large-caliber there. and these are the corresponding type of s24 s25 missiles and they have a firing range of about 3 km and are precisely intended for the destruction of, you know, or targets fortified there, for example, well, there were bunkers, so to speak, or the impression of some infrastructure facilities for work on the accumulation of troops, such rockets

too there, they fit, and there were still publicly available videos that indicate that the helicopters they received from the czech republic are already there. well, for example, the same mi 24. they also work for the russians, maybe right there, you know. so when they will be there after the victory, they will be known some details, yes, then we might be able to say, for example, that these helicopters transferred from the czech republic somehow helped to intensify such fire attacks, there is some pressure on the russians from the air, but for now we can still assume something like this: what the russians might have even tried to create such a full density of air defense, expecting that we will throw some kind of oshtra aviation there, but judging by everything, before going to throw all this, they set up, you know, the interaction between the genera and the whiskey. that's why they have so it turns out that let’s say that ours can shoot down 24 of them. there on the kherson bridgehead, well, but shoot down the russian k-52s. well, you know, that’s it, two at a time. as the enemy

of the southern command reported today, they took and shot down their helicopter, mr. ivan. well, if to talk about the situation in the south about the counteroffensive, then here in such detailed reviews of british intelligence it is said that, in principle, it is more difficult to attack than to defend, and this is what the armed forces of ukraine will definitely face and are already facing during our of our company for the liberation of temporarily occupied territories, in particular, experts from british intelligence emphasize the fact that the banks of the ingulets river were mined by the enemy during his retreat, what should be done with these designations, how will it be possible to overcome this problem, in your opinion, what other traps are being prepared for the armed forces of the occupiers or will it help the enemy

, in fact, how is it here? the fact that there, on some theoretical level, it is possible to say that it is more difficult to advance there than to defend, it is obvious that there are certain, let’s call it, difficult moments that appear because there was a story about a possible encirclement of russian troops there, well, let’s put it this way, near one of the populated areas . there are different versions, or it’s too much, for example, she announced an operation that they said it was as if they were trying to take the russians into a cauldron , that is, just the opposite, that somewhere there, uh, there was not enough of a commander on the ground with some kind of tactical skill and that is why the russians were able to get out from under a possible encirclement. and they remain there again, even if we talk about isolation, so to speak, in the theater of hostilities, in order to finally cut off supplies to the russians, not only in mosty, the whole thing is also, for example, the seaport, the kherson

seaport. maybe they will somehow be able to go there through this port, even if they will be allowed to transport their fuel or ammunition by boat across the dnipro and pass through that port, it’s just a logistics channel that will somehow be there for them to work even if there i miss the spoon, as they themselves say now, there is also a road bridge over there kherson, well, the fat river is fast is it somehow like that ? times longer even than it was through the crossing of novaya kakhovka, after all, this is also a canal and this canal will also have to be dug . the troops there have created certain zadarom on the left of ingulets, i.e. the crossing has been secured and no mines of the russians there have helped, but in fact

, let’s say this is the general convo message of the british intelligence that they are ready quickly and you should not expect easy success from the armed forces of ukraine in the kherson direction, in fact it is taking place you just know . well, let's not guess so far in advance about what other problems there might be. well, again about airplanes, because one way or another, we have to deal with this formidable weapon let's go back, tom cooper, er, the austrian er, expert says that he sees everything with skepticism. so, what will be handed over to them, the f-16, and some other planes there, they say that in the end, no one gave them anything, and they took advantage of the opportunity to buy in ukraine from you, interestingly, several dozen old myths of the 21st century, and taking into account the fact that the aviation

of serbia was already very well actually destroyed during chorus of operations er, they used these mig-21s in their subsequent operations quite successfully. but here he says that until now only they were able to buy with their own funds some more modern er planes, now they will already be members of nato so here he thinks that nothing is bright for ukraine, but on the other hand, we see that 100 million have already been allocated and, in addition, the minister of defense of slovakia even stated that the country will consider the possibility of transferring 11 mig-29 fighters to ukraine and this news about the transfer we constantly hear of planes in ukraine. the only thing is that there are no planes yet. how do we predict this situation? in fact, there will be planes and understand if the discourse is already starting at the level of what is there, maybe let's take gripen fighters because we

need fuel there . can we still convert our airstrips for f16 fighter jets, which have never actually landed in our country? well, that's why you know how to demonstrate such pompous birdism. oh, the ukrainians will have nothing. you understand, plus 20 attack aircraft there, mig-29 and 125. well, you know, they took a cut from the rivne place. even if the pentagon and then the ukrainian air force were there, they were forced to invent optimism that these were spare parts or that the planes really arrived disassembled, well, this means that for they did not give us such, again, 11 mig-29 fighters if compared there even with satisfactory data , since we actually had such aircraft, well , you know that too. let's say a certain intermediate stage of significant assistance is a powerful number ivan the kyrichiv defense express expert was in touch with us , and we can only confirm the words of the experts, and

we can say that the air force of the armed forces also reported this week that the united states, according to their information, is very serious about transferring aircraft to ukraine if they have already allocated 100 million for training pilots that airplanes will be given, as we just talked about with andrii ilyenko before, that is, this war will somehow, relatively speaking, end , but in a certain sense it will not end, it was like that in the 14th year. that is, the 14th year of ilovaisk then somehow it finished but it didn’t finish and that’s why we will really need these planes there anyway we are working now they will be in a year in two in three there will be more more more everything then you understand what will happen and then ukraine together with putin what will we continue in a few moments right now, a fresh news release from the espresso editorial office and our colleague anna eva melnyk is ready to present it, but you have no word, thank you colleagues for your work