this is in a military sense or something like that, to demonstratively refuse to uh, he wanted to pay the victims themselves and the disaster caused by their military, it will spoil their positions, their image , something there as part of the negotiation process, they mykola we talked about turkey today in the context of football, but here is also the president of turkey ah, mr. erdoğan made such statements that are not entirely clear, as if about the possibility of transferring to russia technologies for the production of byraktars, as far as possible, how to evaluate these statements. well, i doubt if this is possible primarily because it is not in the interests of turkey, here is the conversation from their side , erdogan's comment was so vague as far as i understood, it was about the fact that during the visit to russia, the issue of military-technical partnership will be discussed and what russia has shown interest in these technologies of turkish drones, well, it is a fact that russia

lags behind in this field and all technologies are needed, well, it is not profitable to transfer them and not even because of some special love for ukraine, but look in many regions turkey has a confrontation with russia, they also support different forces in syria, the south caucasus, and north africa in the context of local conflicts. tractors are used there for attacks to strike pro-russian forces . directions , there is no point in doing this. well, let's remember the recent interview of the director of the baykar company, luka bayraktar, and what a predator he said that at the moment there are no negotiations with russia his company, in principle, does not consider this direction as promising for cooperation, and it is convenient as a principled position of his, and he seems to be

. because, well, in fact, although the company is independent, yes, but this kind of connection is very important in turkey. well, because, in fact, in principle, there is such a combination of turkish political leaders and business elite, that's a lot of people close to gaardana who have political influence and who received certain preferences in economic activity, that's why, look here, even here, these are the steps that the baikar company took for the benefit of ukraine, here are these, for example, the same free gifts of drones well, really here, although this one was presented as exclusively such the initiative of a private company, but in fact, frankly speaking

, here you can also trace a certain a-a technology for the production of byraktars, which supposedly in ukraine something will be done there, the question did not move further and we were talking about the construction and opening of the plant here, but you understand that in the conditions of russian aggression, this is simply due to security issues. now, in principle, there are difficulties with the implementation of this project, that is, we are talking about turkey refusing this law for ideological reasons, but in practice, i do not think that now where it is possible to implement it, unfortunately . thank you, mr. mykola zamikula, senior researcher of the department of foreign policy and international security of the national institute of strategic studies, spoke about them and let's move on volodymyr volya should be with us international political scientist mr. volodymyr we welcome you if you already hear us about health i hear and see and we

hear you we wanted to talk in particular about lavrov's african tour there were many pieces of video there were also memes about this in for some reason, lavrov went to africa, what is he looking for support for, what is the purpose, how to understand this, well, this tour has already been called a grain tour, and to a certain extent it can be characterized as such, and the largest meadow can be characterized as such, because , first of all, it took place immediately after the conclusion of the of this grain agreement regarding the unblocking of ukrainian agrarian exports through the black sea. i remind you that this agreement consisted of two components from two separate agreements, but there was also one more , so to speak, in the package, the agreement is about the fact that russian agricultural exports are also will not be blocked , well, even after these agreements were approved, of

course lavrov went to those countries that are important, at least from the point of view of the kremlin, partners, and maybe even allies of russia in africa in order to apply in his vision of why there were problems, problems could arise and may arise again someday, that is, he told how everything is fine, russia is not blocking anything, and that it is all the west’s fault, that is, this is the tour, it was more like the image is alive, the tour will pass lavrov visited egypt, had a meeting with the leadership of egypt, and also spoke before the representatives of the league of arab states. why did he speak in front of all of them? because the arab

states are, to some extent, old partners of russia in middle eastern affairs, and on the other hand side, and here it is practically a component of the arab states, they buy a lot of food for themselves , including the same saudi arabia, which buys a lot of food in order to provide it through the network of muslim charity to those muslim countries where there is poverty and problems with food well, in addition to saudi arabia, there are also some other rich countries. well, egypt, egypt, which is one supplier of - consumes a lot of ukrainian grain, but also russian grain, and that's why lavrov tried to tell, so to speak, tell the correct version. that is it's such a lame excuse that it's not russia, it's obvious that

russia is innocent, it's all the west and now everything is fine, and those other countries are uganda, an eastern european country where food problems are felt, it's the congo, where russia has, like many african countries, certain interests, besides moreover, congo has a considerable oil and gas sector, the russians are also there. well, ethiopia, ethiopia, eritrea , somalia, sudan and south sudan are also countries where this has been localized for centuries and decades, and there is an acute food crisis the problem of hunger, that's why you see this video, yes, it was met in ethiopia, in fact, i joked there

that the horse was sprinkled with grass. beets are thrown at us ridiculously ridiculous these all rituals took place and there this is just a tradition actually here if no jokes in ethiopia and nothing but greens value life and that is why it was actually such a sign of respect if so cultural it is, so to speak, an interpretation and sacrifices to be rejected, that is to look that it was a tour with the purpose of justifying maintaining the image of russia and russia, that is, not to lose face, but i do not think that any of these countries will change their position regarding the support of russia in the war against ukraine. i remind you that egypt voted for resolution 2 on march, ethiopia abstained, congo

abstained, and uganda abstained from those who voted against the resolution - this is eritrea, in which putin was not, and lavrov was not, and already a large number of them in the same rhetoric, why did she vote because back in the last year ancient negotiations were held in in exchange for some financial ee and other benefits from russia, the retro governments gave permission for the creation of a russian naval base in the red sea. ethiopia to some extent was also traditionally dependent on the soviet union, then on russia. but again, ethiopia takes a neutral position, this is very it is indicative because they perfectly understand uganda and the congo and ethiopia, and that they depend heavily on the west in matters of the food crisis, and i reject that is why they do not accept any

side of the president of the vice-president of the european parliament kateryna barli called to deprive hungary of the right to vote in the european union because the rule of law is being violated in the country and budapest uses the principle of unanimity in the eu as a means of blackmail, a german deputy from the social democratic party said about this on thursday, today, in an interview with publications in this day , diar, a relevant quote maybe now it's time to speed up this procedure according to article seven of the eu agreement and temporarily deprive hungary of the right to vote for e-e now in the case of hungary it has really turned into a means of blackmail, well, it is meant. the application of the principle of unanimity of the vice-president of the european parliament indicated that nowadays it is no longer possible to talk about any democratic and constitutional conditions in hungary, where prime minister viktor orbán quote part by part completely took the country into his own

hands end of quote to what extent it can be supported by other members of the european parliament, please , no member state of the european union can be deprived of the right to vote, including the european parliament, here the question is that the influence of hungary can be changed, reduced only at the level of decision-making within the european union, that is, at the level of the eu council of the european council , yes. that is, where it is about decision-making directly by governments by representatives of the governments of the member states of the european union, and no one can simply deprive hungary of the right to vote, otherwise it will mean, in fact, an exclusion from of the european union, therefore, even at the level of the european parliament, i do not think that this will go further than a simple discussion, however, the fact that the

european commission has already voiced the idea that it is necessary to reform the mechanism of adoption as soon as possible decisions within the framework of the european union and to replace the rule of consensus with the rule of some unknown identified majority, this is the most likely way, and hungary is really increasingly presenting what can be considered an even greater number of signs that the hunchback was in collusion with putin, and i do not rule out that urban could have agreed with putin on the partition of ukraine last year and look at the position of hungary. in august, september 21st,

putin also sold gas to hungary at preferential prices and let this gas bypass the territory of ukraine , that is, they protected it from the risks of war, that is, orban could already guess at that time, and he may even know about the general plans of putin, that is but what we have seen in recent months is that hungary is constantly blocking something, hungary is actively attacking the sanctions regime, what's more, when the statement was made that er, that is, hungary did not believe that ukraine, you understand, hungary believed that ukraine will quickly fall and in this context, when word appeared that the hungarian government was ready to use hungarian troops in order to take control of transcarpathia, you understand this, they talked about what they could do, in fact, i uh, it looks so hmm so bright,

it looks incredible absolutely incredible why why? why? why? why? why? it cannot apply anything itself to a member state of the european union, and a member, but none, was ready to seize this access. hungary, after such statements and after such plans and intentions, did not suffer ani the european union, or nato, and you think further if there will be a different situation and hungary renounces such intentions as a nato member, the european union will not renounce if the situation, god forbid, be repeated . like everything within nato and uh, in the european union, orban's statements can be discussed, they can be condemned, that is,

not gorb personally and his government, including the fact that they were ready to use troops to take control of zakarpattia region, but still, the european union is a union of sovereign states, or hungary is a sovereign state, and here no state can be punished by anything except those procedures of rules that are agreed upon by everyone, including hungary itself , yes, when will i create such rules well, yes, exactly, within the framework of nato, all sovereign states are there, there is no supranational body that punishes, you will understand because the question of diplomatic, some uh, accents should be placed and ask the question that if hungary takes such steps, then she it will be too late and outside the european union. it’s a stupid statement. and is there a prescribed procedure for exclusion from nato, for example, for aggression against

third countries? it seems there is not . mr. volodymyr, yesterday there was uh in the media so far information that boris johnson can become the next secretary general of nato uh, have you heard that, have you seen it and what does it mean for us uh, i think it's a beautiful idea so far uh- what of course, he is like that, you know, he emphasizes respect for the contribution that johnson made in the process of countering russia in recent months, especially but i think that the secretary general of nato can be either johnson or, most likely, someone from the military, although again,

this will all be decided when the elections for the election of a new nfk and voting in all member states are held, but it is quite possible that johnson will be supported by everyone in the fall, and it is quite possible that johnson will be supported by everyone . if this is the case will happen will not be will be it is very logical and very beautiful, by the way, they already have a military school there, so everyone has seen these photos, videos of the london teroboron, it looks very beautiful and harmonious. promises the president of the red cross society of ukraine, mr. pavlo, we welcome you , i greet you, good morning, thank you, sir, sir. well, i did n't even want to start with you about the red cross, but i'm

asking you to start. let's go to the first source ugh, mr. pavlo wanted to start with yesterday's appointment, yesterday the parliament appointed a new prosecutor general andriy kostin, a people's deputy from the people's hearing, who before that headed the committee on legal policy well, he was responsible to the parliament for judicial reform, the parliament gave 299 votes for it how do you evaluate the appointment there are many pros and cons of this person, someone says that the person is very professional , there are no questions about her as a lawyer, someone says that this person is yermak, someone accuses him of the fact that he, for example, also went to the competition to the head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, but he did not pass the criteria of integrity because there, well, he had certain questions about his property before the registration of this property. someone immediately remembered that after the 14th year and the annexation of crimea, he went to

occupied crimea with his family. well, he he says that these were his personal questions and the treatment by some doctors and he was not a deputy at the time. someone reminded him that through the committee he headed on issues of the judicial system, how is he doing on legal reform? the bill of the president on the liquidation of the oask was submitted to the parliament in april of last year as a priority and urgent matter, but it did not pass through the parliament and did not get to the session hall, and the oask still existed this year and vovche justice in our country has not been liquidated, so- called. how do you feel about this appointment? i am asking about this appointment. we have a tendency that we don't

understand. the previous heads of the ministries of the prosecutor general's office of the sbu are removed for something. no one really explains the same thing to us in my area of ​​the ministry of social policy. i don't understand on what grounds, because the previous minister was fired there. we have one source of information about such a widespread national telethon - this is irony, yes. and just yesterday, relatively speaking, all these and the head of the security service and the head of the general prosecutor's office and all the ministers were by the most professional, beautiful, ideal leaders who defended the country there, they practically single-handedly solved such difficult issues, and therefore, a day later, they are removed for something, and no one understands why i am removing them , so it is difficult now, and the second point is also not

clear in connection with because now the plenary sessions of the verkhovna rada are not broadcast. we do not understand why new people come to their positions . i would be very interested. i don't know. i don't understand what the new prosecutor general went through, with what er intentions, with what er, well, let's say yes, expectations for sure. that's why it's difficult to comment now. he was guided primarily by laws that would be the same for everyone and what is the main claim of society. i understand this position that a person who is deeply

adapted not just to the current system of power, but specifically to the system of party power of the party the monomajority of the party's structuring there are servants of the people and this definitely raises doubts about the objectivity of the prosecutor general's processes, in particular regarding the investigation of cases that concern the representatives of the current government. questions that related to the current government, well , in fact, they turned a blind eye to them, if this will continue, well, it means that it sewed for miles, no more than yesterday, also olga wasp in weight, another deputy from the hearing of the people became a judge of the constitutional court 293 the deputies voted for her, she was the deputy

head of the committee on political and constitutional law reform of the parliament of the verkhovna rada. well , people who are familiar with the law say that it was not possible to be a candidate for the post of judge of the supreme court on the same day when you are still a deputy parliament and you have a mandate, that is, there was also a certain violation. well, i am not an expert in the matter, so i will not say anything, but today another appointment was made. andriy yermak announced the appointment of the head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office of the new the head, that is, the one chosen by the competition, which was previously recognized as oleksandr klymenko, but we are. if you want to respond to us, there will be people 's deputies, we will talk with them, we have time, and also for you to tell us about the activities of the red cross of ukraine. i don't understand why this appointment is being commented on

andriy yarmolenko i understand that this is the appointment of the head of the sapk, this is a matter for the prosecutor general, and it is the prosecutor general who signs the appointment of the head of the sap. therefore, this again creates suspicions in society about the fact that the prosecutor general either directly depends on or is controlled by the president's office, it seems to me that i understand that everyone wants to be honest at this point. but it seems to me that such signals are not at all positive for the perception of the new prosecutor general as independent from the power of e- well, let's put it this way, so it seems to me that such comments should definitely not come from the office of the president, from the prosecutor general, mr. what is the red cross of ukraine doing now? what are the main tasks of evacuation?

food kits, what exactly, ana, we don’t have a wide range of solutions to humanitarian issues that you can apply for. what to look at, the last thing that can be noted is that we already started payments to forced migrants a week ago, and the first funds for the accounts of forced migrants and disadvantaged groups of the population have already been deposited into their accounts, let me remind you this is a joint program of the international committee of the red cross, the red cross of ukraine and the government, and if we take only monetary aid from international organizations to ukrainians during this time, more than uah 10 billion has already been provided that is, this colossal enterprise, well, for ukrainians, it is not a state or budget fund - it is the funds

of international donor organizations, including the red cross of ukraine - it is a variety of programs that help ukrainians precisely with funds , that's why i say 10 billion hryvnias once again - these are only cash funds that are transferred to accounts of ukrainians, this does not include the humanitarian aid provided by various international organizations, so we continue this work to receive this aid through state appropriate resources in particular, there is a resource, there is help, you can register there, but on the other hand, i immediately want to tell people to be careful, because there are already fraudulent schemes around these financial assistance programs. various fraudsters are building up and demanding personal data of citizens, their passports, their card numbers, codes, and so on. in any case

, you can’t give it to anyone, you can register yourself either there or contact the social security office at your place of residence, that is, there are two places where you can get the appropriate assistance. and plus, we continue in addition to monetary aid and evacuation of the population in our area today is donetsk luhansk e.e. zaporizhzhia and kherson oblasts but we talk to volunteers who take them directly from hot spots and they say that people who have nowhere to go, they just wave their hands and say and we have nowhere to go. that is, we understand that there is no of the state program , we have hubs here, there are people, and we bring them here, and if we offer them something, that is, the state and organizations that work with the state do not offer anything to them. so, look, there is a certain difference

because yes. if these are such small volunteer groups, we are also very often approached by people who have used their services, who were simply brought somewhere, it is not known where. authorities, in particular, with the hubs of zaporizhzhia, dnipro, e. that, unfortunately, the question is not even how much delivery of these people is now to specific regions, how much is the problem of evacuating people, because we know that the kherson region is practically blocked today, the possibility of evacuating mariupol is also very difficult

, evacuating people or evacuating people from melitopol and in the zones is definitely of active hostilities - this is the donetsk luhansk oblast and, in fact, it is also strong, our capabilities are limited elements, nevertheless , we are trying to make 250,000 ukrainians starting from february 24, only the society the red cross of ukraine was evacuated by its own forces . i wanted to ask you about the former vice-prime minister of social affairs. six o'clock in the morning, then i leave work around two o'clock in the afternoon, i go to this branch of a commercial bank, inside there is a man with 50 pennies on the street, a man with 20 pennies asks and what are you doing, what do they give there?

of the united nations, they themselves could not even explain what kind of help, but i understood that it is only registration and takes place through a commercial bank for some kind of help. there is a database of the ministry of social policy there, and in the end, i act. well, there are some state structures, unions, which theoretically should deal with this, please, but not for a long time. registration through banks does not take place through the bank . accounts can be opened for those people who do not have tax rates. who, for example, receive a pension there through a postal account or through a post office or some other way, so a roof to receive help from there, from the red cross, from the united nations organization . we need accounts, but really, from my point of view,

there is some problem with communication because, all these things can be done and