the secretary of the united states with the demand that russia be included in the list of countries sponsoring terrorism for its actions in syria, georgia and ukraine. it is obvious what the result will be if anthony blinken follows this path and russia is recognized as a sponsor of terrorism, you know despite our very good relations with the biden administration and constant contacts at all levels, in which we constantly ask the secretary of state and the leadership of the biden administration in general to make this decision. so this decision was not made. and now the congress connected now this is a question of internal politics of the united states and the attitude of the administration to the position of the congress, we did everything we could to ensure that such a decision was adopted by the president many

times . well, if it is approved, what will it mean for russia? it means that we will join russia in the honorary club of countries. where does north korea belong, for example? uh, and this is an important political marker, secondly, uh, this status implies a very serious complication of the opportunities to carry out financial transactions for the russian federation. that is, in essence, this is an additional sanction, a powerful sanction against the russian federation, of course, this is already something uh, but for now, what do you say appropriate we must wait and in the process or waiting we will not be hindered by endurance we have endurance, but a few days ago you addressed our european partners with explanations that they also

need endurance in this war of ours with russia in i got the impression that you are hinting to them that there is no need to talk about possible negotiations, because one of your predecessors in the position, dmytro klimkin , recently in an interview with the new age of e-e radio nv, more precisely said that there are such signals that the russians because of their military situation now the front is starting to send signs of readiness for negotiations, have you received these signs or do you feel them? well, we will receive these signs every day in the form of chortkov, regular missile attacks on ukrainian territory in the form of statements by the leadership of russia and the highest officials about what needs to be changed there, to topple zelenskyi about the need to ensure the complete denazification of ukraine eh and there are actually

no signals that russia wants to fight. partners are starting to itch again on the topic of negotiations with the russian federation, well, we very calmly and clearly explain to them why their expectations of a constructive position of russia do not correspond to reality. well, it's just not just me this is what i understand from some european partners. today european pravda, with reference to turkish sources, reported that your turkish representative, mr. çavuşoğlu, also gave a press conference , and it obviously related to putin's meeting with erdogan on august 5 in sochi . about the export

of grain as a way to promote the peace negotiations between ukraine and russia, and when the turks also start hinting at it, she is interested in how much this topic of negotiations is starting to take shape again behind the scenes . a small small piece of turkish land is located in europe, in this sense they can also be answered to european partners, but the nature of these stated colleagues of the turkish minister of foreign affairs consists in the simple desire of turkey to have developed success in the issue of creating a grain corridor, which has not yet worked, although ukraine is doing everything possible to make it really work, that's why they definitely want negotiations, but as i already mentioned, we don't see any kind of sincere response from russia to uh any signals regarding the resumption of the

negotiation process. of course, thanks to dmytro for this part. now, about the grain. i would like to go into more detail, since the agreements were concluded between ukraine, turkey, ukraine and the united nations, but for now, the act itself, the process of grain export has not started. slows down this process , it is necessary. therefore, in order to organize and implement this first passage through the humanitarian corridor , all the details are calculated, everything is checked twice, three times, it takes time. but as i emphasized , ukraine will do everything that depends on it to make this

corridor work, and i just saw the news today that egypt is canceling the agreements until february 24 contracts for the purchase of ukrainian grain and whether this will become a bad example for other countries in africa and the middle east no because the world cannot do without ukrainian grain one contract can be canceled one country can to cancel contracts, but this does not systematically solve the problem, grain is still needed, by the way, this crisis has shown how important ukraine is not only for world food security, but also for the world economy in general. well, i see that your department is trying to be more active in this sense position to take literally two weeks ago, president volodymyr zelenskyy appointed maksym sukha as a special representative of the ministry of foreign affairs in the countries of africa and the middle east. what

will this special representative focus on? e-e were going to the return of ukraine to africa in the literal sense, where our positions were significantly lost in the previous decades, and let me remind you that even last year, long before the war, the first african strategy of ukraine was adopted. by the way, the first such document in the history of our independence. therefore, the decision of the president it is quite natural to appoint a special representative of ukraine for necessarily the east and africa - this is a person who will directly concentrate exclusively on this region, which means that there will be more attention, more involvement. well, pay attention the president holds phone conversations with african leaders, uh, my tour is also being prepared . by the way, the

tour of the minister of foreign affairs to african countries is the first in the history of ukrainian independence. er, essentially restoring relations with the countries of latin america, and this is what i have been talking about since the first day as a minister, that our foreign policy is definitely a large part of its resources and attention is given to european and euro-atlantic mathematics, but in fact ukraine's interests are all over the world and in asia and africa and in latin america. can you tell me a little more about it? and which countries will be covered, there will be four to five countries. i am preparing very carefully, it will be an exhausting trip, but it must be carried out in

the interests of our country, it will be exclusively the countries of sub-syhan africa, that is, not the countries of the north africa is arab, and we will go to central africa, let's say, and i won't name the countries yet, of course, but you see, as soon as we, er, information began to leak out about the activation of our relations with the african continent, in particular, about the preparation of my tour, as i immediately went to the same region mr. lavrov, minister of foreign affairs of russia, trying to use the moment to strengthen the position of russia in this region, so they understand everything, they understand that we will be effective in this direction have already begun to oppose our efforts, but we are not deterred by this, we will certainly achieve our goals anyway. i think it is symbolic that the russians came to

our south, and now the counteroffensive by the ukrainian armed forces is pushing out the counteroffensive from there, and your counteroffensive to the south will push the russians out of there. thank you, sir the minister for the time she devoted dmytro kuleba the minister of foreign affairs was in touch with us one of the unmistakable signs of statehood is, of course , the national anthem, and today, on the day of statehood, we would also like to devote some time to this song, which is a real symbol, not a formal symbol of ukrainians and ukraine, and i want to talk about it with taras chuboy, the leader of jeremiah, the people 's artist of ukraine, including taras, congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes, taras i am coming to you with such an unusual question, obviously because i think

you are the best you are suitable for this role because you are a musician with a conservative such a conservative academic education and a person who understands poetry because she has sung poetry throughout her creative life and will continue to sing. i hope and how you are an anthem from a musical point of view. as a musician, i understand that all these layerings of the fact that this is the most important national song affect them, but if you try to distance yourself from this and evaluate the quality of the notes and words, for you as a musician, like him, first of all, i would say that it is quite modern, uh, this hymn is uh, and it’s great music, and it’s a song that became a hit, first the text became a hit, then this text was noticed by verbytskyi, and by the way, attempts to write to this text were made by lysenko and stetsenko

and a lot but it was the version that became popular verbytskyi and verbytskyi is also such a rock and roll character. by the way, he was famous for playing the guitar, and even during his studies, he seems to have had certain disciplinary problems in the seminary, that is, he is absolutely a rock and roll dude and positive, he had an excellent academic european education, because his uncle seems to have been a priest or some high-ranking official in the church who took him under his care and hired him teachers from vienna. that is, he is a person who had a european classical education as a composer and a musician, in addition, he has a lot of experience in writing music for theatrical performances, in addition, he wrote liturgies and so on. that is, our hymn is a fantastic

phenomenon in general, it is not boring, how about we say, oh god, protect the king or queen, and what did the copy paste do later, god the king is saved and so on . and it is spelled correctly, it is four quarters. it begins immediately with the major tonic and immediately raises the question of life and death, that is, ukraine is not yet dead. sometimes you have to hear such complaints, they say, it starts immediately, not with majora, they pay attention to such a moment of mourning that i have not yet or at the time of death. well, yes, according to the words, it is as if at the time of death, but not yet dead . it is just that the bar is set. that no no is not dead and will live forever if verbytskyi is such a rock and roll character. and you, as a

rock and roll character, how easy it would be now to remake this hymn to some modern musical preferences of rock and roll people, well first of all it must be said here that verbytsky had uh experience uh first of all he is ukrainian, accordingly he sang ukrainian songs, he had a lot of experience with ukrainian melodies, he sang in the mountains, he wrote for church choirs. and first of all, by the way, he wrote a version for solo singing anthem and it is very well sung solo, this anthem, that is, without it, i checked it at the olympic stadium, how can anyone remember this, uh, solo a cappella, it is very well sung, it is also well sung, here are two voices in three b four and it is sung well in a choir that is, it is universally good music in all respects. wonderful. and with regard to the text, i also wanted to

clarify such a saving moment, which also sometimes causes concern among people, why is there a madman , by the way, we must pay respect to the justice that in the original, after all, chubynskyi will develop our enemies, but in the historical process they changed to such a diminutive and endearing word vorizhenke. it doesn't annoy you. look here. the fact is that this text, and even later with the music, went through such a crucible as all well-known folk songs, that is, it passed the people's test that is, these reactions are all editorials. i apologize that they are all a bit popular. i would say that the people have improved somewhat and have shown themselves a little, or they are thin. and we need our anthem, it's just beautiful. it's simply more beautiful than all the other anthems, here's the oldest anthem that exists in the world

, it's that of the netherlands. it seems like it was when they were at war with spain, uh, then the first one appeared, and then these british anthems that everyone copied. well they are boring, they are interesting, or take, for example, uh, there is also a polish one. no, this mazurka has died, and it is three -quarters. well, that is, as for the anthem. it seems to me a bit like that, somehow, as frivolous. and in our four-quarters, everything is so solemn. everything is as always, everything is the best. thank you taras for this is a perfect definition of the rock and roll of our anthem, this is what we need right now taras chubai was with us on the air, we continue we continue our air, which today is somehow special, because today is the first time that ukraine celebrates the statehood day and then 10 minutes of our we will devote the air to a topic that will not be enough

to devote any number of air hours because it is the topic of language and the question that we will try to start discussing is why language is important vakhtangiladze doctor of philosophy contact us vakhtang already congratulations this is a very difficult question that can be answered in one sentence, you can not answer by writing 10 volumes of thoughts about why language is important. what is your answer to this question in the context of ukraine, of course, and ukrainian statehood is quite difficult. i distinguished the levels at which we talk about language and about the everyday level, it seems to me that in the end there is no problem here at all, because all citizens of ukraine, one way or another, speak russian, ukrainian, at least, at least understand both

languages, that's why the manipulations begin when they say to us, how can we follow russian speakers there if the state language is only ukrainian eh this is a lie because all russian-speakers at this level of everyday eh understand the ukrainian language and as a result by the way, not only russian-speakers, we have many other eh minorities eh if russian is considered as minorities so why do we not talk about them in the study of their rules, but because, for example, let's say about the crimean tatar diaspora or about the great polish diaspora, the great hungarian romanian diaspora that are in ukraine. for example, i come from the greek diaspora that existed on the territory of our country. before the existence of russia. let's say it like this. but we all at least understand ukrainian, because that's why our rights are newly certified due to the fact that, let's say, ukrainian, we are addressed by television or state officials is there in the stores? that's why it's not a problem at all.

so, when we move to the level of culture and the level of education, science, yes, to the level of, let's say, higher consumption of language and use of language. so here, language is undoubtedly important, and it is at first glance it just seems that when we talk about the importance of language, we are advocating some such conservative and patriarchal outdated ideas about society and communities, and it seems to me quite the opposite, because if we try to consider this complex problem very briefly, then in the historical debate, there are two such principled approaches to understanding what a nation is, what a political nation is, what a state is, on the one hand, on the other hand, there are primordialists who say that this is what is given to us by nature or by god, and it is everything to it. you either belong to the nation or you don't belong there. well, i don't know. dna must be examined and then find out whether you are ukrainian or not. well, roughly speaking, what

is a person? i just want to translate a little into a more practical moment. a person is born a ukrainian and that's it. whoever she decides to be her anyway ukrainian by birth and of the ukrainian nation, and this is quite, well, wait, this is quite a conservative and so close to nazism and racism vision, but then, however strange it may be, language does not matter, because if a person was born ukrainian, then what language does he already speak, then it is secondary but if you listen to the 200, to which i also belong, and here is such a formula, i do not get tired of repeating it. benedict andersen nations on rations. community, then the language counts, because then it doesn't matter in what language we tell ourselves about what the ukrainian political nation is, and so it turns out that on the contrary, the modern modern concept of the

nation is liberal democratic, which is based on such constructivism. it requires us to be very careful about language and the understanding that language is a mandatory component of national identity well, based on this what did you say then, the ukrainian language is an indisputable guarantee of the existence of ukrainian statehood, and here as on i should not be confused with the necessary and sufficient basis for what distinguished the german philosopher labnitz. i would say that language is the necessary basis for the formation of the ukrainian political nation and, accordingly, its independence, sovereignty , self-government and freedom, but it is not sufficient because we have many scum, traitors , bribe-takers who speak ukrainian for which ukrainian language can be native and which i do not need to be taught at all, therefore language is a necessary

but insufficient basis for the formation of the ukrainian political nation, our freedom, our independence and our historical success in addition to language. what other elements are necessary for the formation of statehood in this case? it seems to me that when we talk about statehood, we should first of all talk about a political nation, because a state is formed by a political nation, and in order for a political nation to be successful, there are many of various factors well, in my opinion, a very important factor is er solidarity solidarity is, accordingly, mutual trust it is not by chance that in principle yama named one of his books trust of trust and he writes there that successful political nations are characterized by a fairly high level of mutual satisfaction and this is what we did not lack, we inherited from what we lacked. this is how we inherited from the

egg . the level of mutual mistrust, because after all, what modern russia is demonstrating is ultimately about society and organized enemies, just using the formula of thomas hobbes - this is the war of all against all, this is a formula when a person to a man a wolf homo minus a magnifier sts a man to a wolf instead, we are only gradually forming a real society of solidary competitors, this is the key to success, we must be quite competitive in e-e the level of competition in society must be very high in business and in politics and in education and science and in intellectual and artistic and cultural practices, but this competition in all liberal-democratic societies is compensated or the society did not fall apart by a fairly high level of solidarity and this

a sense of solidarity and mutual trust was formed on the squares of both, and even more so on the second , and as it seems to me, the war, no matter how tragic it was, but it forms such mutual trust in us when we understand that for the sake of our statehood, our political nation, our freedom and at the end of our lives, we have to practice a fairly high level of trust in society. you know, i listened to you and mentioned just in parallel that i have repeatedly encountered the combination of this trust that you speak of. with the concept of the ukrainian language, people say that they are more they trust the information if it is in ukrainian, well, as of february 24, it is clear in general, but it was also from the words of several military friends of mine who say that in the dark, when someone goes to go to him, you knock, then trust if the answer is in ukrainian is much more than trust if

the answer is in russian, it is like this point, the war turned out to be a point where the concepts of trust and language are strangely intertwined and life can absolutely depend on it, this is one of the elements, again it is clear that this is an insufficient criterion, you want a person to speak ukrainian, she will turn out to be a traitor and a provocateur, but this is quite a serious criterion, because we know that most of the citizens of russia, a country that is our enemy, do not speak ukrainian , and if we talk to a ukrainian person, she at least understands us. there are reasons to believe that this a person who is not an enemy, at least for us, but if a person does not understand the ukrainian language at all, then suspicion immediately arises: is he a russian, is he an enemy, is he a spy, a spy, or maybe just a soldier of the enemy army. thank you, vakhtang, for taking the time to

share your thoughts on this matter, because language really matters and language is, as we have heard, an optional, not the only guarantee of statehood, but an important element of our statehood . for my part, i also want to urge everyone to use ukrainian, including in everyday life , and to support those who take the first steps on this path, because very often there is this risk, if you hear a mistake from a person, ask them to correct it i say this because i know that sometimes it happens myself, but i work on myself, i restrain myself and it is better to help with a kind word than with unkind advice from the superior

, let's continue. the russian world will no longer be able to surprise the russian world with cynicism of anything and everything . against peaceful ones, for every flight on which one should have his house of officers in vinnytsia, we will take the whole pike , now he says here and there, yes, there, too, children, yes, children, but not ours, you will be our children. we will protect you and protect your children, while we protect our children on now, watching the stories of the propagandist from mariupol, you constantly catch yourself thinking that this is some kind of new level of the bottom. after all, once again, each of these pods

knows russia well. aircraft hit a sensitive five-story building now burning up this is the same edition of the survivors were killed with tanks 25 thousand corpses hundreds of thousands of garages became homeless destroyed families orphaned children erased into the dust of the city forming factories that fed the people of mariupol you that in soviet times all this is not even and only this grief terrible grief and none the silversmith who likes to remember so much in the donbas kremlin, the last fate of the second silversmith, the silversmith, that's all, and she didn't stand by, but now everything will be told to friends by putin's skreponos - these are not just murderers thugs and butchers are first of all people of small minds with a complete lack of conscience

, only the most stubborn, for example, could declare to the mullah the destruction of mariupol, it was in the water, mariupol was cleansed with all these beauties of tinsel, er parks, and all such trifles, and now they defiled him the cottage is terrible because of the terrible thing, but she cleaned herself, and later they arrange a concert on the bones with howls about the white swan on the pond, let's praise and glory because you are a creative place, the white swan on the pond buried the family in the garden, that's what it's about it's better to go but there is no where to turn on joy, happiness and fun everywhere, russia has become much better in several houses, attention has been turned on the lights to whom the electricity at the first

object dropped, mariupol is only 16% clogged, and this is a significant result, plus a charging phone we have and see what you think this is the real russian world when you drive and humiliate people so much that they start to rejoice because they always had it like that but it's so simple thoughts out loud and here's what's really important and needs to be shown that 's it how russia regularly gets involved in the loudest and most terrible stories, a classic example here is the mariupol drama theater, russian planes dropped a bomb on donetsk, a little regional theater in mariupol, and who forgot, just remembered that during the storming of the city, thousands of citizens who lost their lives hid in the drama theater building , there was a humanitarian center right there to distribute food to the needy, this is the place where the people of the neighboring district used to gather. there was a fire hydrant there, and they collected water there