the consequences if mine protection from the caravan will not be provided or will not be enough. actually, what are you? you remembered about our danube ports for the traffic that was provided after the liberation of the snake . this is such a small prototype of the corridor that will be of odesa ports and actually speaking, all the dangers and misfortunes that can happen from the odesa piers are large, he demonstrates on a smaller scale, and today's case with a hydrographic boat is, unfortunately, one of the examples of possible who in your opinion, will become pilots for ships that will move in the so-called safe fairway without changes, so the second point, i would like

you to briefly describe to us what we can now expect from the russian black sea fleet . well, because we understand that the harpoons have arrived, and the neptunes have opened i.e. not now. i don’t know the situation compared to the end of march, the beginning of april, when they were drawing different amphibious stories. now they understand if they start to break . to the first question, it is clear that in the territorial waters of ukraine, shipping here and ensuring security are the responsibility of the naval forces, the interaction with the state border service, we have maps of the copper productions of our own ukrainians, but we have a little bit, very little, we have a little bit left against mine forces, a copper trachok only gives if one day he will get it for two questions, it will be very

cool, but you have to choose your own forces as far as the open sea is concerned from the danger from the russians, you have to understand that yes, we have harpoons, we have neptunes, we drove the hump and away to crimea the coast, but the range of their missiles is not less, but the same. actually, as with our anti-ship missiles, and it is quite possible to use russia's weapons, not even on command from moscow, but because they are not stupid. i apologize , quite recently there was an incident with moldova by a tanker for the second time in the life of this tanker, the first time it was fired upon by the russians deliberately in april, when the russians shot all civilian vessels that were in the territorial waters of ukraine

or near their shores. the crew then disembarked from it came ashore, and the ship continued to drift in the sea. and just recently, the russian hit the bottom again with a cruise missile. what does this say about the fact that, actually, there is a midshipman at the post of a radio engineer of a russian corvette? i saw a flash of light, the top officers in the commander were aiming, and the commander said the pain is great, let’s go in your hey. actually, it’s a decision that was hidden at the level of the ship’s commander. target such an incident can happen at any moment. actually, as long as the russians are in the black sea,

let's say so in our parts of the black sea, and not there. near novorossiysk, such a danger will remain . of our sports thank you mr. pavly pavlo leikiychuk head of off-peak programs of the center for global studies strategy 21 worked live on the espresso tv channel at half past three khrystyna yatskiv in whom and antin berkovskii too er-er in this studio together with me we talked about our the ukrainian sea, let's talk about the ukrainian sky and the possibilities of protecting it, we are already in touch, i hope, if not, we will wait valery romanenko, an expert in aviation, mr. valery, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good day well, let's start with something simpler, yes but

applied is about drones of various systems and so on. a couple of days ago, the russians did, i don’t know whether it was successful or unsuccessful, but they shot down a couple of reconnaissance units of the odesa mykolayiv region in the rivne region. and here the story continues about the so-called possible iranian drones, we understand that uavs are too broad a concept. but i think that you understand very well the levels of threats and the various new types that , for example, can be delivered if it is implemented by the same iranian specialists. well, generally speaking, they do not pose a threat to us. and this is quite such a thing. well, i would say that it is not a very modern drone, and its history is that the iranians, er,

captured er, one er, israeli hermes 450 type drone, and somewhere they also found american ones bredator is quite old drones, they are 20-25 years old, as they say at the dawn of unmanned aviation, yes, they were developed on the basis of these two drones, they made their way, it is considered the best iranian drones and the only strike and reconnaissance drone among them, because the reconnaissance drones are actually russians quite a lot, ah, this is a drone. it has quite limited features, what is the main thing for a drone, well , you show others. oh, that’s shahid, this is shahed 129, the pride of the iranians. what is this drone ? this is actually hermes er-er fuselage is aridynamic

scheme of hermes means predator fuselages but if the israeli american drone has a wonderful er-e radio electronic equipment own reconnaissance equipment then shahid has in this er-e in this in this aspect er-e intelligence equipment - this is the main thing for an unmanned aerial vehicle, it is very limited, you see. under the wing, it has several missiles. but these are not missiles, they are guided bombs that do not have engines, they can be dropped at limited distances. as you can see, they are very small they just showed a reconnaissance camera even comparable to the baryakhtar recorder - it is a lower class drone, but it is bigger , better and with higher capabilities, in fact, it has limited opportunities for inspection and a laser system of laser rangefinder guidance,

the russians wanted a real reconnaissance strike drone , because they still have enough reconnaissance eagles and the iranians, according to the calculations of international experts, they have no more than 50 such drones and route 129, in general, the russians say that they bought 120 of them, i.e. iran, if it were true, then there are no drones at all, it is difficult to imagine this, taking into account the specifics of the region. that they bought more than a hundred drones there in iran. and they also say that in the first days of the war they destroyed the ukrainian aviation. nevertheless, we see that ours continue to carry out combat missions on the front line, reinforcing in every possible way our guys who

work on the ground and just recently , it was difficult to imagine that some volunteer organization like come back alive could buy a beraktar, for example, it was difficult to imagine that we would receive such weapons as hymers and shells for it, and so far it is difficult to imagine what you gave us. well for example, fighter jets, it’s true, but after all, nadiya dies last and we have an understanding that it would be better for ukrainian pilots to be engaged in training like this on the corresponding kind of e-e combat aircraft, in your opinion, what are the prospects in general the transfer of fighter jets to us according to some scheme, this could happen and could it happen in 15 or 16 at least sometime, since there is already information, our pilots are ready to learn to fly them well, let's say yes, this is no longer prospects, it is already a reality if

money is allocated for something for an idea then this is already the implementation of the implementation of this idea into life, and the americans have allocated 100 million for this, it is not a million and not two million that are needed for the training of one pilot , that is, we are talking about mass training, but for now, the money is only for training pilots according to this article allocated for this money, and in six months it is possible to train at least 3-4 dozens of full-time combat pilots. yes, what i want to say next is that we have not yet decided which combat aircraft we want to have, so it is being officially discussed so far. they say the minister of defense, uh, mr. danilov, that means other officials are discussing the f-16 or the crest of swedish mushrooms. i think that these machines are suitable for us. well, of course they are suitable, but

the best for us would still be to get the machines. they increase the strength of the chassis of the f18 type, but no. we will discuss the decisions of our officials a-a f-15 and f16 it would be an ideal connection in general what is an f 15 it is a light multi-purpose fighter in one in one machine both a fighter and a bomber and a stormtrooper and a scout are combined depending on which one is currently shown the f15 plane is a heavy fighter for gaining air superiority, yes , a light fighter, it is capable of performing all these functions f 16, i said, but the f15 performs all these functions, plus it is adapted to actually win air superiority, that is, to destroy the enemy planes and it is also capable of being an effective bomber, much better in terms of its

capabilities than our su-24s, which we actually have as bombers, mr. valery, can 16 destroy strategic aircraft of the strategic aviation of the enemy, why is he asking because most often they hit with their missiles in the same way from these planes, not only there from the sea, from ships from the water area in general, but from these planes, of course, it is possible. now they are shelling er border cities with er x-22 missiles, they also launch forges, it is several hundred kilometers from kharkov, from the ukrainian border, from the russian-ukrainian border, but as for the planes that take off from podsaratov, from the city of engels, there is a base near the city of saratov, then of course , they launch a missile from the caspian sea, and for

the f-16, it is a possible task. they already require, well, certain conditions of consumption on the ground, airfields must meet certain criteria , ah, it is difficult. it seems to me that it is somehow difficult to adapt our airfields to these criteria in conditions of war, and when they are regularly attacked by the enemy, ah, if they even shoot at civilians, as was the case, for example, in kroprypnytskyi literally uh yesterday uh how can you use these planes well actually not giving them a base on the territory of our country or can they be based abroad park the f-15 and f-16 so that they are under the reliable protection of the patriots well for example, in the territory of the rzeszów or toryaszów voivodeships of the republic of poland, maybe

it would be easier for us to rent one or another military airfield, yes, and the equipment is calm and the pilots, so to speak, are not too worried , well, it would be even better to recruit vacationers to these planes, you understand that a familiar practice for putin, he has nothing to say, we lease airfields in the nato military market and then invite nato vacationers who fought a little war over ukraine, but how do you understand all this these are political decisions, yes. here i am an aviation expert, i do not undertake to say anything. the idea is a good idea, you understand what a stumbling block, and the russians say what such decisions are, they will understand them as the entry of poland, for example, into a military conflict, and poland, as a member of nato, cannot act

independently she must coordinate her actions with the nato leadership and what is the nato bureaucracy, we actually hear from you every day well , around the clock let's say yes, and accordingly, if it is not possible to recruit recruits, so to speak, from the former of aviators, yes, it is possible that there are some accelerated programs for aircraft training, you say that all the money is allocated, i also confirm that this is an extremely productive moment, but how de facto how long will one or another of our pilots study in order to master the f15 f16, a month, two, three, and a half years i discussed the terms that i would agree with both the appropriate specialists and our current pilots, it would normally be approximately a minimum of 4

months for a pilot who would simply be able to intercept cruise missiles, that is, not to take air defense systems participation in air battles, if it is necessary to carry out combat training of a pilot capable of performing all types of combat operations, then at least six months of intensive calm training is required, that is, in calm conditions, and another main condition is knowledge of the language, because there will be no translator with the pilot in a single-seater plane during training during mastering all combat training takes place on single-seater planes and the belt of the person who will do the translation is generally two-seater, and all training planes are two- seater. there is no place for a translator. that is, we now we have to start training a-a of the flight crew, flight-technical crew and combat training officers to teach the english language in an orderly manner, this is an interesting question by the way, i know that civil aviators they uh-uh have

the necessary knowledge and knowledge of the language in order to be able to do their work. how is it happening among the military? well, at the moment, we haven’t even thought about it, to be honest. but it’s so, it’s also a big challenge. the preparatory work. the defense of our country, well, again, it can be subjective. but it seems to me that the number of intercepted missiles and shot down has increased somewhat recently, but it still happens that missiles reach their targets on the ground, but less, but progress is obviously e in order to protect the sky above such a big country as our country, what would we need? well, we understand that agreeing to a few nasams is great and it can be aristei if i'm not mistaken, if again all the bureaucratic procedures will be passed eh yes we can count on it, we are purchasing but

will it be enough to cover the territory of such a large country as our new news blondes have never made a mistake, respectively she is so infallible and not a blonde, so our brunette is not infallible, yes, so you have excellent knowledge about anti-aircraft missile systems and and regarding the increase in combat capability, you yourself understand that tactical techniques are being worked out, and to fight against russian cruise missiles and the russian air force, joint commissions of specialists are working uh, they help uh, both with advice and with coordinating uh, communication equipment between our and, for example, nato intelligence systems. yes, so that we can very quickly master receiving

information from them. i want to say something like this, well , pay attention to what happens when rockets, missile attacks by cruise missiles in the western region, the percentage of downed sometimes reaches 100%, did you pay attention? yes, if you mean there was a recent attack on khmelnytskyi, yes, khmelnytsky was attacked by four missiles, all four were shot down, but when there are attacks on the eastern regions, the percentage of those shot down does not exceed 30%. why, i can only guess what my guess is, but i'm probably sure that we receive intelligence information from nato flying radars, they warn about the approach of missiles and we have the opportunity to prepare anti-aircraft missile systems in time for the approach of the missile in the is

the necessary direction there, yes, or raise fighter jets and intercept and shoot down this missile with the participation of fighter jets, that is, for us to so that we that simply cooperation is with the nato and american means of intelligence and warning about a missile attack, they help us to increase the effectiveness of our air defense, in addition, experience is an invaluable thing, military experience, experience of combat operations, which we will later share with all allied countries. we received invaluable experience that is worth a lot of money, which we paid for with blood, with a lot of blood, mr. valery, on the other hand, we understand that the enemy also has a lot of various missiles, starting from calibers i

i don't know what number specifically they have. well, even the s300s transferred to the land-land mode. so what should we expect from such a thing, and in general, i don't know if there are any additional systems in order to shoot down the same s-300s. no, unfortunately, we shoot down the ac 300 we can't, because we simply, well, first of all, caliber and other cruise missiles - we are not maneuverable objects, yes. they fly mainly over, if they are launched from the black sea, they fly for approximately 40 minutes on the territory of ukraine, during this time our radar equipment can detect transfer information to points targeting anti-aircraft missile units, they can prepare and destroy them, and an anti-aircraft missile is a highly maneuverable object with a huge speed,

which is four times the speed of a cruise missile, and in addition, it once again emphasizes highly maneuverability and the main argument for such idiocy, no one i was not prepared, if in soviet times they said that someone would shoot very expensive , very high-quality, that is, high-tech anti-aircraft missiles at residential buildings, then such a person was simply kicked out of the army as an idiot, why cruise missile, the minimum warhead of a cruise missile is 400 kg of explosives, the maximum maximum e-e warhead, the weight of an anti-aircraft missile warhead is 140 kg, half of which are lethal elements of metal, various metal ceramic e fragments, which means that the plane should yield

70 kg of explosives, that is we didn't prepare for this, well, it didn't cross our minds. yes, and we shoot it exclusively on the square, as if to terrorize the population, because not a single military object can be destroyed with such rockets. it is possible. it’s just that until recently we lived in the regime of the east and the south, so to speak, but now it is possible. well, our neighbor in the north has already actively joined, so it is de facto occupied. we understand that no one will ask the belarusians or the belarusian military when the russians will strike from the north, so and it’s not for nothing that they have already opened up those s300s there and i do n’t know what they have at all, because i have a feeling that they will really start to raise the temperature in the north so that we either tie down our operational reserves or pull back certain tactical groups and

it is not only about the personnel, but also about the equipment , including the heimers, and so on. i do not think that the threat from the s300 side is very big, this missile has a short range, it must be guided by a radar and it is 30-40 km from the border, they will not fly further than that now they are shooting only at border towns and frontline cities in relation to belarus. it is difficult to say, you understand. if the russians are motivated and zombified, then in belarus it is not the other way around. they, uh, 90% of them were against lukashenka, and i don’t know, uh, it’s very high factor under the time of hostilities is motivation, politmos, as they used to say in the soviet union, politics, the morale of the belorussian troops is at a low level, and i

don't think that there will be a big threat from them, but the gunpowder in this area must be kept dry and one must be ready for defense, in any case, at the first stage, until the belarusians will not feel that this is not their war and why they are dying in such numbers as the russians are dying, by that time we must be ready to repel an attack from any side. i would like to add that the caravan of air alarms yesterday er over our country was caused by the fact that just from the airfield, a gnat rose into the sky not far from the chernihiv region. and fighter jets , in particular, actually attacked our country, including from there, and very often this happens, mr. valery , when we talk about the northern direction that before the combat strike planes take off into the sky, a kind of a50 rises, this is a soviet russian long-range radar plane, e-e, i

don't know how to say it, definition or research , review, review, and thank you, what kind of bird is it, what is it helps our enemies, well, you understand, it does not help. this is a mandatory element. i say in all my speeches that we should ask not only for fighter jets . what is a50? it is a familiar to us military transport plane il-76 in which a radar antenna is placed above the fuselage, that is, oh, now you are showing it, this is a saucer on, this is a plane, it is radar, it is capable of surveying the territory of ukraine at a depth of 400 km or if it were

our planes, they were tracking cruise missiles somewhere at 250 km, how does the russian aviation work before carrying out a raid, they raise these planes, this is actually not just points inspection of our territory, as well as command posts. they manage all the actions of the russian aviation, the combat control officers sit there, they watch what is happening in our territory, do we have planes in the air, or are our planes currently sitting on the airfields in the zone where they are supposed to work , russian aviation should work if our planes are rising and these are russian avaks and 50s, they are directing theirs so that they attack our planes from the best, best angle. and more technologically advanced to note planes, if

we had received such planes, we would at least have parity in the combat capabilities of using our aircraft and destroying, for example, enemy cruise missiles, the percentage of destruction is almost in most regions of ukraine, the interest rate would be raised to 70. somehow. well, finally, mr. valery, i would like to clarify with you. and why were the russians so alarmed that they cut off spare parts , in particular, and for boeings ? sanctions and as if they were dragging it, but it understands that they can use part of those spare parts for their own aviation, military or not, they can’t use them a-a only if ivan and remove some kind of microcircuit from them regarding the relaxation

of the supply of spare parts. well, i have not heard anything like that. to be honest, the russians have just stolen several hundred planes from 400 to 600 e-e that do not belong to them, they were leased and the leasing was revoked, that is, if there are any relaxations - this is, well, i don’t know, it can only be local relaxations or the russians agreed with iran on the supply of spare parts with iran, entered into some contracts, but i’m sorry, iran itself has been under sanctions for more than 20 years, they have planes flying such that in us in ukraine already in museums like these well, only in museums and you can meet such planes the same one here 154 there similar cars out of date cars well that is, i don't think that they will have the opportunity uh

abroad they fly fly now exclusively on russian-made planes, otherwise, or on european planes in countries with which they made agreements so that the planes would not be arrested there. thank you. thank you very much, mr. valery. it was a pleasure to work with you. valery romanenko, aviation expert worked live the 15th hour of the information and analytical marathon of the espresso tv channel is coming, so i just wanted to reflect on it. regardless of the fact that the blonde and what a smart person do you see, and the blonde and the brunettes are so well, but what to do, let's move on with us news time on the espresso tv channel anna eva melnyk now i will introduce this news. congratulations, it's vova. so you work in the news and the color of your hair actually doesn't bother you. it's interesting. well, you know khrystyna, it's not about your hair, actually.