exchange rate forecasts until the end of the month by the end of the year, we have an absolutely clear idea that if the current fixed exchange rate is not removed, or rather if, we are all waiting for the national bank to float the exchange rate, and by the end of the year, we expect strong pressure on the exchange rate the hryvnias are heading again to the level of 31-30 uh, the fact is that at the end of the summer, the objective exchange rate will be at the level of 30 uh, uh, by august, 36 well, maybe 37, although , well, our forecast is 35-36, i don't doubt it, just you are talking about the floating exchange rate to which the national bank of the national bank's cheerleaders, in particular the chairman, will move commented on this story what why did they talk about the exchange rate again, so to speak, precisely because if it is converted into a floating format, it will differ greatly from what it actually is, that is

, in the exchangers, it will grow very much ah according to its e is a respected adviser to the chairman of the national bank , because let him look at the national bank's own statistics, if you keep, if there is a floating exchange rate, it increases from the supply or demand for the currency, touch it now, i will repeat it in a few days, the supply of the currency exceeds half a billion dollars if the exchange rate was floating, it was already strengthening, it is their right to introduce a fixed 36, hold for a month to see how the panic subsides and then switch to floating. i think that the plan is exactly like this in this part is short, if in the trailer you noted that there is no need to rush, there is no need to panic, it is better to wait and everything stabilizes more or less, but how do you pollute those economists, let's say , or those advisers who say that it's better if you have free working capital in hryvnia , meaning the hryvnia mass of mershchi, run to shops, you buy household appliances there faster,

what you haven't bought yet, you buy fuel there in advance, etc., you spend, you drop a lot of hryvnias. how would you react to this if there were not even such advice , er, the rational behavior of the population during world epidemics, the warriors of the revolution are exactly like that as you wrote now, you can call on the population not to call on the population will make rational decisions if the dollar is more expensive buy it now if it is cheaper then they will get rid of it during the war call to love the national currency. well, it seems to me that the story is meaningless, uh, you just need to show what it has. well, it is right to say that according to the constitution of the national bank, it demonstrates the stability of the national currency, all the levers in the form of positive political influence in the countries this year, mr. mykhailo, meanwhile, you said that after all, it is not worth buying currency when it costs so much. ivan smiles at the same time. i sometimes think why are we having these conversations and engaging in economic lexicon if you say everything

the population alone will not react, we will call on , we will advise, it still does not change its economic behavior when something like this happens, mr. ivan, please tell me, let's move on to grain rails, and here i will allow myself to ask again, we rarely on the air emphasize the agreement between russia, turkey and the un actually the world as a whole, encouraging these agreements between ukraine and turkey and russia, and not turkey, was only interested in lower grain prices . sell it in the first place, give an honest answer. to be honest, i believe that everyone was interested in the fact that there was no food crisis in the world, this is primarily a problem for the european union, because if this food crisis were to happen, it would be again in africa and nearby in the east, people from those regions went to the eu, first of all to europe, and then to the usa in order to

prevent this. of course , all the agreements were interested in the leading countries, if you remember the day when this agreement was concluded and look for that day, look at the news of cnn, bbc, other leading international conciliators, they all said that this is the main news, that is, for the whole world, this is the agreement reached. it was very important, indeed . as i said before, it is important to us because it will give us currency and we will show our partners that we are not only asking them for funds, but we are also doing something ourselves, it is important because here i will turn to the military component, when we showed that we are ready to defend ourselves, they started giving us the weapons that no one talked about on february 24, they said, well, we do give them now, they give it very easily

, the same is the same in the economy when we show that we really that is, we are ready, that is, we have it anyway, we want to sell it. okay, we were given this opportunity, and then there was an agreement from russia that there would be an opportunity, as far as i remember, to insure boats that will bring food products from russia. that is, it was profitable for those around russia who are making money from this, that is but again, the priority idea is that there is no global pro-military crisis, and you know as a person who is present almost every day on arab television, i think that this topic is very important to them here, because at least in the middle east, there is a very much depends on by the way of ukraine, we somehow omit that this war demonstrated how important ukraine is for this world, at least for the middle east region, objectively, that not only ukrainian grain is important

for the world, but also the russians, at least the russians emphasize this because there is something close to the export of grain, and with the russian federation, you just mentioned the freight of e-e vessels that can potentially be exported hypothetically, yes, this is grain from ukrainian ports, these are foreign vessels. so let's go back all the same, to the issue of shelling the next day, uh, of the odesa port, because there is well, experts and the military have different attitudes, including this, well, with unprecedented insolence, let's say the russians, that is, the question is not even that they i'm sorry, but the question is whether there was a rational component here, or do you agree with the fact that in this way the russians are still trying to reduce, let's say, the number of people willing to transport and export this very grain, thereby replacing the markets with their own grain, because i will remind you that the head of the foreign ministry lavrov the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation is currently on a tour of, for example, an african country, and it is in africa that he is trying to promote these theses that russia can

replace ukrainian grain precisely there, and the professor of macroeconomics who was in touch with us further we are conducting the broadcast with you, please answer p. ivan , well, actually speaking about russia, here i am recalling the old theory that the kremlin has many towers and there is one tower that mr. yarkovsky called the great blood, that is, the one that seeks war constantly and not only from ukraine with the whole world and there is, as he said, well, i will say it more literaryly, threats and blood, that is, the one who turns a blind eye to the blood that russia sheds all over the world, but she wants to make money. it seems to me that after all, there was a certain conflict here - it's yours because those who want it to earn, they were definitely interested in this departure because, after all, the opportunity to sell their grain is not possible. those who want to be constantly at

war. they do not understand. by the way . goods, why gas, what is the territory of ukraine, that is, it is clear to them in our country, and how do i see this conflict regarding the displacement of ukraine from the grain markets, indeed, in russia, there is such a strategy somewhere, about a year ago, an article appeared in the times called wheat diplomacy of russia, and there was a very interesting thing about the fact that one of the reasons for the collapse of the soviet union was that the soviet union was a net importer of grain, that is, it bought grain and did not sell it, and that is why when oil prices fell after the agreement between saudi arabia and the united states of america in the late 80s actually, in the 1990s, the soviet union no longer had the opportunity to buy this grain because there was no money and the option was either to disintegrate or to die of hunger. the soviet union

disintegrated after that, and russia changed its strategy from in 2003, russia turned from a net importer into a net exporter of grain, and already last year, russia produces twice as much grain as it needs on the domestic market, and thus it turned grain into a weapon with which it puts pressure on countries, that's why when we say that russia puts pressure on everyone because of gas yes, it will press because of gas, but in addition to gas, they also press because of the dependence of n from the level of not to the importer not to the exporter, it reached the level of the exporter, that is, for the whole time, it is not quite like that, since 2003, they have turned into an importer and not an exporter about the past, he said that the difference between what they sell and what they need is already a big difference, and because of this, russia has become the world's

leading honey and wheat partner, because of this, they began to push us out of many markets, but for example, from the turkish market, and for us this is very politically important, because we understand that in the black sea region there are actually two such powerful states, russia and turkey, and in fact they began to put pressure on turkey precisely on the grain factor. and although turkey is doing a little to change the situation but with a certain step of the same mr. erdoğan, who seems to be going to sochi tomorrow or the next day, but nevertheless we see that turkey is forced to reckon with russia precisely because it depends on it, in fact , if this there was no dependence, i think that it would be much easier for us to agree on historical and more significant support from their side, in addition to what we have, because we sometimes forget what a big role the turkish

baryachtari played in the first days of the war when there was a little of it then about egypt, we will add that egypt canceled the contracts for ukrainian grain signed even before the war. that is, how much the egyptian market played a role in our exports, how much it is a loss for us. and this is a very important country for us, ukraine was! consisted in the export of wheat by ukraine to egypt , that is, let's imagine the continent of africa, but the largest share of this occurred precisely at the expense of the export of wheat from ukraine to egypt, unfortunately, unfortunately , the projects that were still in 2000, it seems in the 11th year, were developed by nibulon, such a ukrainian they were a plutorovsky company. in fact, this company had the idea to build grain warehouses on the banks of the nile, the largest river in africa. why would he

tell me when egypt needs grain? and if you buy grain from me, you don’t need logistics costs because they you already have them, unfortunately, it was not implemented, partly because the son of the then president of ukraine mr. yanukovych wanted to take away the company, it was not, well, this is my own opinion, but unfortunately, because of these actions, they have been there for 11-12 years ukraine lost the opportunity to have a significant influence on egypt, and now egypt is unfortunately canceling contracts. but nevertheless, we will see what happens next, because after all, egypt needs grain from ukraine, and if they do, well, let's not forget that egypt is basically there since the middle of the last century and all these decades, well , it was more or less in such a political and economic format of the russian federation, so it is not surprising that in this case, after all, they extended their shoulder or hand to the russians, because the russians

there, they introduced quite active and powerful lobbying work, just like in other countries, well done. yes, let's touch on the issue of naftogaz here, but i would expand it more widely for your help in the sense of winter, because it is also a very important issue, we will not die of hunger we have already heard these theses from the members of our government, from economists that we can still sell to foreign markets. and it will not be enough for us, but what will we have with the winter period of this 22-23rd year, president zelenskyi said earlier that it will the most difficult winter in general for all the years of independence, and it is clear. why, how do you generally evaluate the prospects from the already mentioned, let's say, the conditional default of naftogaz, about the fact that we have prime minister shmyhal invited the united states to the so-called gas and land-refund, although it is not entirely clear what is this , well, the lenderlist provides for the format of returning what you take. i don’t know how to return the spent gas. explain. well, will we still be able

to heat the houses and in what way? this winter, if it is, for example, very cold here, i’ll start with that that the forest was gassed, do you agree, this term is specific because the landlist is when you are given a weapon, if you use it, you lose it, you do not pay for it, but if you keep it, then you either return it or pay for it, but this is a question of gas, how to me, it's precisely the agreements, that is, what we talked about on the air before that, so that ukraine would have constant negotiations with partners, which, you know, we need this in order to defend western values, which we are actually defending now, because it is already quite popular saying that there is now a world war when russia is at war with ukraine and the whole world, and ukraine is with russia for the whole world, this is what this world war is all about, that is, the question here is precisely the negotiations so that it does not happen as it once was with the zbyshera npp. i will remind you that when ukraine built an early nuclear power plant and

the americans asked us to abandon this project, we refused and we got nothing for it when our colleagues asked the americans why did you pay us for the fact that we refused, the answer was interesting and you did not ask us to pay you if you asked us to compensate you for this, we would do it, that's why it's really ukraine. maybe somewhere we need to be not so brazen, but more bold, higher questions. let me clarify the question . let's talk about the request regarding the united states . it is about liquefied gas. as i understand it, if it is from the united states of america, will this liquefied gas be enough to provide all the needs of ukrainians for the entire winter cycle are , first of all, secondly, if it is not liquefied gas, and about the european ones, let's say about the so-called reverse, they are also reducing on all fronts, which means that the needs for the consumption of this gas, so to speak, even there, the

same pangabyk minister -e environment and energy , so it seems. germany noted that he already spends less time washing in the bath and water , therefore including hot water. so where are we going to get or will this quantity be enough? do you really know now the situation in which he actually found himself? all of europe on february 24 is a reminder of what they were told since, if not since the eighth, when there was a russian attack on georgia that lasted for almost two weeks, and then on the 14th, when crimea and donbas were annexed, they said to give up russian energy resources as much as possible, and look for alternatives. unfortunately, this did not happen. therefore, now europe is faced with a problem when they cannot do it instantly, they do it, we see an agreement signed last monday between azerbaijan and the european union on increasing gas supplies there with 8.1 billion

meters up to 20 mm but it will be in the 27th year and we see agreements between france at least and the union of them by the arab brothers when will be the supply of certain types but again it takes time we see the steps of the eu for greater economy we see the steps of germany according to the deconservation of their atomic energy when germany abandoned it now, it is returning because they understand that without their own nuclear power plants working normally, it will be difficult for them, that is, they are taking steps. another question is whether this will be enough, but at least they say that it should enough, and because of scrap gas, the question is really how connected the united states of america is ready to provide it to lithuania, or when you don’t mind. where do they plan to take them so that everything goes

more or less normally than it is readiness , that is, when you say how much you are ready for, the price of this readiness, which looks first of all to ensure that the fleet has enough capabilities, but as far as i understand it is another issue, once again, a political decision and an understanding that it is possible that this will happen somewhere, including at the expense of payers us taxes and what they don't like, that's why there are such problems with aid. but again, it's already a political issue to explain why they do it, because i perfectly understand the citizens of the usa and canada who live on another continent and write, and why are we giving money in ukraine, not there for their own needs, this is already a question of dialogue with us. of course, it is also important for their authorities that their authorities. north america or for them to explain to their own citizens, why are they doing this so that there is not, let's

say, the materialization of the speaker's statement addressed to the russian federation about the need to return alaska, that is, somehow america is not ukraine at all, this is a call, but in my opinion, in ukraine, americans should be reminded more that you do not want to return alaska, russia, and their speaker, think about it, says that you did not do it and they help, help ukraine, and then you are not mentioned. now i will ask my last question later nazar what was the point of declaring this an unshakable course 29:25 if it became a matter of fact 36.6 why it was not correct to communicate with the population i wanted to ask you as an expert on international economics, and actually, does such a lyrical question always succeed communicate correctly to the entire plane with the population and explain whether we should be more

consistent and not promise that we will keep the course at the level of 29-25, let's say we will switch to rails 36.6 , that is, these economic communications. can they really be so equally reasoned that the entire population will understand, well, you know, sometimes it is very difficult to talk to the population in the situation in which the country does not find itself, so sometimes i understand our central bank, the national bank of ukraine, which said that we will not panic . plus the national bank that there was no trash ball before. you know, there are here, i would not like to criticize them, of course, then you had to explain that you understand what happened in the country, so this rollback is desirable, but it will be temporary, you know when it was said that the exchange rate is 36.6. i joked that it is possible that this is an analogy with medicine, that as far as everyone accepts, it is standardly accepted that 36.6 means a good

body temperature and 36.6 means that it is a good exchange rate for the national currency, that is, it is possible that some that's why it was such a hidden meaning, nevertheless i agree what can i say that everything will be stable, maybe it shouldn't have been like that shostka says that we will do everything possible to preserve everything possible from ourselves but nevertheless , you understand in what condition we will survive the language we we all live because of the possibility of change for you, according to your logic, if in the exchangers, well, in the exchangers, yes, in the ukrainian ones, today the rate of 41 is practically already feverish , so they need to be treated, er. again, i will return to the issue of the possible winter energy crisis, which i hope will not be announced in the government that they are creating even there special coordination headquarters for the settlement of this crisis. well, the prevention of this crisis is trying to do everything in order to there were enough energy resources. but again, regarding communication, should our government,

in particular, the cabinet of ministers, certainly do more explanatory work for the public about what can happen , what awaits us, what awaits us in the sense of the heating season, do something at least at your level today, if this is a village, this is a village, cook firewood there , if you are in the city, insulate houses and the like, move on, occupy, maybe there are some converters or there are air conditioners that work on heat, they started talking about it. yes, it is possible, but it is worth it talk already in the summer, already today, that is, you know, the example of mr. habak is just very good, and the entire european union, which despite the fact that it is not normal there, they say that we are already feeding programs to reduce electricity consumption and ukraine should do similar things, that is, you should constantly tell the population that considering the circumstances in which we now find ourselves, it is desirable to save on certain things now. where can you save so that you are not worse off in winter, because we understand that, unfortunately,

unfortunately, the situation is unlikely to improve significantly by winter although, again, this dynamic situation is so dynamic that i understand that certain experts from the very beginning said about two or three weeks, and as a rather activist person, i also hoped that it would be possible and it would be, unfortunately, now the situation is changing, nevertheless, it must be understood that the saving of resources it is needed and it is necessary to learn to live like its europeans, because the europeans are demonstrating now that they are really ready to save and since ukraine is going to the eu and , er, personally, i have no doubts that we will be there a-a so we also need this psychology we are eager to accept from them what is needed where energy resources can be saved, so that it will be better later, because back in 1982, the nobel prize in economics was won by a person who said that the richest nations are those who know how to jazz

, in fact, we also need this philosophy, our efficiency the future is like this, our european future, mr. ivan, thank you, ivan usyk, expert in international economics, chief consultant - kyiv national university, institute of strategic studies, was in touch with us, it was like this economic hour, our broadcast continues , we will overcome it, we will overcome it, we will win the news together, we are strong unconquered cities of ukraine lviv, a city where more than 2,000 historical architectural and cultural monuments have been preserved, its center is a unesco world cultural heritage, ivan fedorov founded the first printing house and printed the first the ukrainian book apostle after the november order and the creation of the west ukrainian people's republic lviv became the capital and the heart of the ukrainian liberation movement in

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will win, we will win that you are not news, together we are strong, well, then we move to southern palmyra to odessa, there are no craftsmen there either, and caring citizens joined the process of creating mobile showers and laundries for the armed forces of ukraine which can be used both in field conditions and well, what is important in stationary applications for such complexes are received from the military from all over the country, money for the arrangement is collected almost all over the world. so our colleague from odesa, tetyana bazhinar, saw with her own eyes the process of transforming an ordinary container into a bath and laundry complex, more details about 50 odessans, including displaced people , set up a volunteer headquarters at the beginning of the war and have been sewing shoes for the military for the fifth month in a row, protective nets and also set up mobile laundries and shower cheap complexes for the census, that is, they

move them, place them where they need , that is, they can be located on trailers or stationary. needs from the very morning, about ten installers also arrange the old container with new showers and washing machines. the production time for one complex is about two weeks. they fly away. rusty metal flies away. it will be necessary to prepare them . compartments for showers, as well as two washing machines , and there must be a two-tone container for water here, it is provided that it can be turned on how convenient, that is. well, let's say that there is a power

supply nearby, please, if it's some kind of field conditions, then the generator is accordingly. it's just that in four months, about 30 such mobile showers have already been manufactured at the request of the armed forces of ukraine, they have been sent to various military units of our country, we will continue our broadcast, ah, anton strashko, with an updated news release, we will intercept it with a reheat we will win and you are not the news together we are strong our weapon is the truth in the channel studio glad we continue the only moment the main topics together we are the only strength news in the center of events glory to ukraine i congratulate everyone who is with us at this time of the day on the clock exactly four in the morning on the calendar on

july 30 and the 157th day of the full-scale war that was unleashed by the russian federation and anton strashko, and traditionally at the beginning of the new information hour , the news release russia should be recognized as a sponsor of terrorism volodymyr zelenskyy addressed to the usa and with the demand to legally secure this legal status for the aggressor after the mass murder of the ukrainian military, the people of volyn know about more than 50 dead details in the plot of vladyslav donetsky, the overdue colony and dozens of burnt bodies, the toto-occupiers received, in particular , ukrainian prisoners of war - this is confirmed by audio recordings intercepted by the sbu, news has appeared you can say that there were 10 people there, russia does not report more than fifty dead and more than