now, the figures that you announced, mr. volodymyr , are 63%, and 68 and 63% are storage facilities in europe as a whole, 68 in germany, and how much gas should be pumped in general in order to come into the winter without problems, well , the european union is in this year set a bar of at least 80%, but hmm. i think that this result can be even higher, based on the fact that the consumption of natural gas is reduced, and due to this reduction in consumption, natural gas is being accumulated at a fairly good pace . now, let's talk about the political component sanctions and the understanding in general of how and what works in georgia and the europeans, we see. they are worried about how they will get through the winter, knowing that they are

imposing sanctions on russia, and how in russia you see the general understanding of the russians, hmm, that sanctions do complicate their lives, deservedly so whether or not the pumping of propaganda continues to be er-er to be sure that um and we don’t care , yes maxim here er-er really er-er probably on the genetic level what i observe is my observation on the genetic level because it will become people look at the box and think that they are all right. but you look at how much brainwashing they have done so that this does not happen to them and they present something like this, well, bad that it is so and it

should be, that's why you you know, in russia, the countries that have left are starting to talk about the inevitable collapse of the orchestra, and i think that the coming time, i really hope that we will see the collapse of kievstan and georgia from ukraine to moldova, these topics are exactly the countries that er-er mixed with them occupied the lessons the state of the russian federation. i hope that they are dreaming. well, wait a minute, they spend billions of dollars and see how many tv channels they have, and where do they get in the way. -е февраля месяцах е-е ее февраля месте было оно оно не февреле е-е ее end of february beginning of march 83% had support there

is no such support ее ее ее ее putryna in russia so for now tv channels will interfere е so how are they working today and propaganda but i think that it will be difficult to get into their heads so that they don't begin to understand that they have everything so beautiful in life, i don't know how the whole tv channel is. i think that this is the support that is possible it is associated with uh-uh, you know , national schizophrenia, but on the contrary, now it comes from uh-huh, lethargic hmm, flowing to aggressively hysterical, but still gave it. yes, let's talk about attempts to bypass mr. volodymyr 's sanctions. a-a hmm to take turns to withstand what what russia is doing now. how do you see what she is trying to do in order to bypass the

sanctions and where exactly is she moving now, well , first of all, the two biggest weapons of russia, how does she want to bypass the sanctions, the first, the first, the first weapon is energy. that is, she wants the most and is already doing it, raising the rates, that is, from below reduces the supply of gas to the european union, we see a completely blocked pipe blocked western siberia western europe i had western europe through belarus poland almost a 60% reduction in supplies through ukraine significantly reduced supplies through the turkish stream for an 80% reduction in supply through the northern stream, one means, uh,

russia is trying to use energy weapons. that you remove the sanctions from us with the nac and stop supplying weapons to ukraine. this is the first option and the second option means uh, what are they going to do in order to remove the sanctions, they want to scare ukrainians, the ukrainian authorities through massive shelling because of crimes because means uh. these are the constant acts of terrorism so that our society is intimidated . at the

expense of which russia wants to force the lifting of sanctions, but which has the opposite effect, if the ukrainians and europeans can withstand this pressure, then we will win, well, in the meantime, the national agency for the prevention of corruption has formed a list of 220 more potential candidates for international sanctions, this was reported by the press service of zeka. currently, 23 billion dollars worth of russian assets are frozen abroad in georgia , and are our international partners making changes to their legislation so that we have the opportunity to receive this money, or are they us ? tell them what you know ah i know probably so many people know everything that they write eh what they write

eh in the mass media it is discussed so that it could be just on restoration a-a give us these money here well, i think that uh-uh in some cases it might be because there if they read a lot they already filed a lawsuit and started suing well maybe someone somewhere will be able to sue well, what a small percentage it is about abramovich, my friend, no, abramovych, please , i forgot his last name, uh, i won’t forget his last name, i won’t forget his last name, this is a man , it probably doesn’t matter, did you forget his last name, or do i remember right

now ? it is possible that this financial er means that it will be taken so that it would be possible to send us to help ukraine and to restore it, because today maxim is the minimal figures that we need. we need to do this already, so let's say start construction yesterday. there is at least 17.4 billion dollars. at the very least, therefore, i hope that the courage of our partners will be enough and no one will dare to follow the example of the russian federation and enter into some kind of agreement with them . the loss of people for the industry is a powerful blow, and we also need to appreciate

that the european union is with us and that it is ready to sacrifice its furnace. ukrainians make much more sacrifices, but the european union is doing everything possible. calculation because it has separate separate relations with the russian federation, in general, it pursues such a policy that is very far from european values. i would also like to pay attention to how we can strengthen the sanctions package against russia, yes, this is very it is important, first of all, that we see nuclear terrorism, yes, nuclear terrorism is a very sensitive issue, especially for the united states of america, and when the russians captured both the chernobyl station and zaporizhzhia, especially the stations, they stationed their armed forces there, the zaporizhzhia stations

were even attacked with tanks, now on there are more than 500 occupiers of this station, more than 100 units of heavy equipment of the golden fire system, which means they are shelling our place nikopol, that is, in essence, a nuclear nuclear plant for the first time in the history of civilization, the station has turned into a military object of terrorism. yes, from which they terrorize essentially the whole of ukraine. yes, that is, and in addition, our personnel of the zaporizhia nuclear power plant are under hostage conditions . several people were simply killed. dozens of people are missing, which means that one diver was coded who did not want to give evidence against

ukraine, you understand, and that's why we see a complete violation of the geneva convention on the conduct of military operations, and secondly, it is the convention that was adopted by the united nations in 2007 on the prevention of nuclear terrorism, and therefore our government, and probably this yurk mcfaul commission, should very actively promote this issue, that is, at the level of the american government, the senate, the congress, and the biden administration, because if we if now, so to speak, the scene has already done a lot, you know what he proposed unanimously, it means that the state department will recognize russia as a terrorist country, if we also reinforce it with the facts of nuclear terrorism, then

the chances of adopting this law will be very high. what does this mean, it means that no civilized company, no civilized country will be able to take any relationship with the terrorist state, and this will practically turn russia into the level of north korea, that is, i think this should accelerate the financial collapse of russia and will significantly help us to win a victory faster, it means a few things - and you raised the layers mr. volodymyr and... of course, i would also like to hear the opinions of mr. georgy birka, who continues to be in direct contact with us . i will suggest but what exactly to comment on the position of hungary, and i remembered the name of usmanov

, the court attacked yes yes excuse me, listen to me you know the matter is that on the site of belov's house, among other things, more than 100,000 votes were voted for russia to be recognized even then in 2014 therefore, there are all chances, and my colleague says. that's right, it's just necessary that our minister of foreign affairs and our whole community, unfortunately, pressed the framework so that we could implement it and in the near future they were recognized as sponsors of terrorism and the ministry of defense of the russian federation must admit that this is real, not the ministry of defense, but the ministry of terrorism. that's when i think they won't be like iran, cuba, and north

korea. when will there be a russian federation? i think that the whole process will spin up much faster and they will fall apart much faster as i just said 5 minutes ago mmm into several parts that is, you are convinced that the world will recognize russia as a terrorist country after all or the country the sponsor on the 28th, and on the 26th, there was already a vote in the congress, and everyone supported this position, so i think that everything is going to this, and in the near future there are moments in the plan in the road map of the mcfall fair will the package actually appear, i don't know what account it might be, but you see, we have reached the golden package, this is the seventh package of sanctions that was adopted, but the package

that mr. volodymyr was talking about now is, in particular, nuclear terrorism for that, do you think or believe that the world will raise it in my opinion, the question is, if more than 12,000 sanctions against the orchestra have already been felt, yes, it has been determined, and hmm, if it will be, if we can achieve that it would be possible, so that it would be possible to recognize nuclear terrorism, and it might work to recognize it. what i see and what i read, why is it so, uh, the intelligence of america, why is it so, why is it so? it constantly writes that there are no invitations to a nuclear attack, there are no indications.

well, you know, it is difficult for me to comment on this. friends will see that there is such a thing орога i think that a mechanism will be included to recognize them as terrorists, mmm, that's what our colleague said, now in europe, they are actively talking about returning to coal energy. in your opinion, is this still a temporary option or will it be permanent? economic and energy policy in europe as well. well, i think that this is rather a temporary option, since the gas option is not suitable, so to speak, due to dependence on russia, this is the first thing, well, you know that the european union has defined the

goal of decarbonization and, uh, reducing emissions of greenhouse gases at the expense of restoring energy sources, they plan to reach the mark of 40% in the energy balance there by the 30th year. grass energy biofuel and for this a transition stage is needed, they believed that this is the transition stage they will go through relatively uh, so it is effective at the moment, well, it is effective enough from the point of view of ecology, but we see, it was not possible and therefore there is no other way out than to temporarily ensure this energy

transition to the pointless, that is, without a carbon economy, which means using coal and not only coal, but also nuclear power, that is, those plans to close or decommission nuclear reactors, they will corrected and partially nuclear energy in the european union will continue to work. i think that this is normal and in view if we take the energy strategy of the european union and the ukrainian energy strategy until the 35th year our strategy was much more adequate compared to the european one, because we are precisely the assumption of a gradual transition to decarbonization, i.e., without a vagots

economy . at such a fast and unreasonable pace as it was in the european union, that's why we see that here, as they say, our plans are strategic, they turned out better than in the countries of the european union, such as ukraine it doesn’t stand up to third parties. hmm, actually european movements, so if there is a certain temporary return to burning coal, or the world is preparing for a record coal consumption in the coming winter. and ukraine, what predictions do you have about it? how will we go through the heating period? well, let's take care of europe first. i want to remind you once. at

this time, europe is dealing with the issue of making it possible to supply gaza and oil products from other countries. ah, well, look please, by how much did the president change? yes, by how much they turned 180°, they don’t look at how much. at first it was discussed that uh, how can we say a friendly country for russia today? we see it in a completely different way that they have already decided to supply something. federations today, it is already possible, they are considering er different options, the thing concerns er colleague, i also agree with the fact that it will be a temporary situation so that these with

europeans will adjust everything to whatever they like , and i think that there will be nothing cool about them , in my opinion, even shipbuilding and also until the 30th year, and they will release assembly machines after that year. it was by law that everything goes to an electric car, and they are transferred, that's why i'll make some adjustments here and there, and i think that there are a maximum of two and they will get off with this swan. how much is left in ukraine ? kazat today, i don't see any problems a-a-y we are getting enough ga-gas in ukraine, eh, yes, they have fallen to the bullpen now, for this is clearly my way of sms percentages, well, however, ah, i think that it is possible for us to spend the winter quietly in our

production of gaza 16, eh, teri-18 billion cubic meters of gas, and there are private ones, that's five billion , so there shouldn't be any problems, i don't see any more in our country this year . i asked for help from a linguist on e-e gas in the past america yes, the american women here. well, here is the government. i don’t think that the government should do everything. i don’t think that the main thing is, you know this. god, i believe everything in our armed forces . i am sure that by the end of the year, what our armed forces say will be thrown away of the occupiers and we will fix uh life will be uh everything is

normal with us, that's why we need to endure now and give resistance to work in any case if uh we perceive a return to the consumption of coal as a return to such a peculiar past it doesn't compare to a refund anyway in the past, the same companies of the russian federation, ukrenergo , on the instructions of the government, will finance the creation of a strategic coal reserve for two and a half billion hryvnias. ukrenergo did not smoke about it. ukrenergo announced on facebook that until the upcoming heating season of 20-23 e p volodymyr e coal will be purchased at market prices and what can ukraine now buy for 2.5 billion hryvnias , how much will this reserve be able to get us through the heating

period painlessly? it was put in order to finance the purchase of coal, i also don’t quite understand, because today we have already accumulated about 1 million 700 000 tons at power stations, and by the heating season we will have accumulated at least 2.5 million tons due to our own production of the dtek company and the state-owned company company, the energy import center, we will probably soon need what ukrenergo will finance, and i also don't understand why ukrenergo, first of all, it is better for this company to finance a guaranteed buyer, where there are huge debts for in order to pay off these debts to the companies that are being restored by renewable energy sources and the population, this is

where money should be spent, not on coal, well , this is my personal point of view, there is a possible way to save the industry that is being destroyed by the war, gas, gas, coal, mining industry in including well, i don't know. for example, electricity is sold in. people co-buy electricity and pay bills. and what is the point of changing this scheme? well, and connecting a new intermediary company, too. it means coal of ukraine, yes, well, it’s hard for me to say. well, it seems to me that this is a wrong decision . ukrenergo should do its own thing, i.e., finance the harpok in order to pay off the debt to the pretender and to the population .

they will figure it out themselves. they have enough coal. it is important for them to sell it correctly and get money for it. this does not require any restructuring of the intermediary. well, in conclusion, mr. georgiou, i have a question for you, a recent case in turkey and with the fans in the match with fenobak or dynamo in which fenerbahce the turkish team lost and the shouts of the fans during the match vladimir putin ah well this is when we talk about the behavior of the russians and hmm in this particular case in your opinion what is this hmm this is a paid- for promotion maksim, i am more than the whole, this is paid for by whom it was paid for by the russian federation, well , you want a new one, take a look.

russia is doing everything possible in order to split the european union, to throw them out, they started to support us, as if they didn't continue at all, they started to support us, that's why this is the situation in turkey . and we have no idea how they support us, the fully paid-for campaign is only money, and uh, i said, did you hear that they have 600 million a day in revenue from uh, uh, resorts? well, it’s clear that they can afford it. i want to thank you again for the conversation, mr. georgy hibikadze, experts on economic and political issues, as well as volodymyr melchenko , the director of energy programs of the razumkov center,

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