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there has been no testing since the 90s, but as it is now, of course, everyone is really looking at each other now to show themselves. for example, india refused russian helicopters and says they will burn them. it doesn’t make sense, so for now, we are going for a general national moment. silence followed by a news release and
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we honor the memory of all those who died as a result of russian aggression in ukraine. a large family of dmytroniks with whom the connection was cut off on the night of march 12, 14-year-old diana , 12-year-old timofey, eight-year-old etori and five-year-old dimir. they all disappeared in mariupol together with their father. and for four months nothing is known about their fate, simply stunning the grandmother of the missing
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children, who also lived in mariupol, told the story of the dmytronik family. it was only a miracle that she managed to get out of there with a civil husband. leaving on march 31, we came with shells. our neighbors told us where to go. i would sit in the basement at night. we said we can't stay in the basement anymore, we will go out, we started to leave again, i passed alive and then we will post that the house of my civil husband was completely bombed, now tetyana stepanivna is in vinnytsia and says that she already learned about the tragedy that happened to her family here because there was simply no communication in mariupol, and there was no way to get to my son under the shelling. he, together with his wife and six children, lived separately in a high-rise building at 51 troitsky street, moreover, his wife was pregnant and then she was about to give birth, so there was no talk of evacuation
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on february 26, and her husband took her from the hospital and said , "where are you going, i'll give you shells, or there's no connection. we have a phone from my phone. it's normal. there was no connection. it 's already known that when my wife with the baby, they were discharged from the maternity ward. the large family of the dmytroniks decided to stay in the city for a while during the shelling, everyone hid in the basement, and on the night of march 12 it was more or less calm, so the wife and children decided to go to the storeroom on their floor, and the father made a bed in corridor in we have a corridor, a corridor in a room in a large
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apartment . storeroom, and on this very night at 4:00 a.m., a shell hit the house of the dmitrenka family, a powerful explosion rang out, everyone is being saved, they are pulling them into the kitchen, they were shouting, mom, help zhenya lost consciousness, father, her husband lost consciousness, and she is a wish. i, too, am lost on the street already when her they were lowered from the 9th floor to the first floor, she already created herself, when the children were in the car, help was soon taken, the belts were taken off drunk and they were still in the apartment, the mother with the three most affected children was taken to the hospital, the little one was in a serious condition, but now everything is with them ok but the fate of the father and four more children is dragging timofia etor and dymir, who remained in the apartment, and now it is
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unknown . please help me look for them, i am asking especially residents of occupied mariupol, who may see me now on social networks, look carefully at the photos of the children, 14-year-old diana, 12-year-old timofey , eight-year-old etori and five-year-old dimir lived at 51 troitska street. that is where they were last seen. if does anyone know where they might be now don't delay call us at magnolia child tracing service at the short number 116 000 from any mobile phone calls are free or write to the chat bot of child tracing service in telegram important any information is just one story of a missing child in general since the beginning of the war. we have received more than a thousand appeals for help in the search, fortunately
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, most of the children have already been found, but the fate of many remains unknown, especially this applies to the temporarily occupied territories, where the work of the police is practically paralyzed, from where it is impossible leave yes, there are problems with communication in some places, people who cannot find their own children do not even know what to do. where to turn if suddenly you find yourself in a similar situation and do not can you imagine how to act? call the short number 116 000 or write to the chat bot of the child search service in telegram. here you will be provided with all the necessary advice . we are returning to our station. i just didn't remember that. this is how
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ulyana panasyuk and andriy serhiychuk, together with political scientists and political experts, oleg sahakyan and valery dymov will spend this broadcast hour. dear experts, we welcome you. we will talk about such things as possible. say about the results of the week and about the high-profile appointments and about the decision made by the verkhovna rada and, of course, about international events,
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we understand that it has always been like this, or now is a good opportunity to do as it has always been, in your opinion, because we see that we have done exactly this way well if they always did the same, it would probably be strange to expect something would happen differently now. of course, this is a political appointment, of course a person is always taken from the team for this appointment, we had different stages in the history of ukraine and prosecutors general, which clearly could not be let in a cannon shot there, they had to change the
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laws for specific persons without legal education, there were cases when people who, on the contrary, were professional prosecutors, became the prosecutor general, but nevertheless they were corporately smeared and, accordingly , defended the interest of not ukrainian society, exclusively the corporate interest of this community. well, in this case, we have another twist, let's say in a political appointment, there is nothing surprising about this , mr. kostyantyn, a person who appeared in zelenskyi's team from the beginning of the elections when they took place he passed the parliamentary elections there, became a member of a new committee, rose to the ranks of the mining group, where he also performed quite well, at least as far as i know, and when we interacted with the minsk process, it can be said that they responded quite positively to him. well, he is a professional lawyer, an attorney, respectively at least in this area, as a legally savvy person, you are
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the prosecutor general, it is obvious that he is now appointed with the tasks of continuing and supporting cases of russian war crimes what are the domestic political frameworks and the fact that this is happening next to the appointment of the anti-corruption prosecutor well, we think we will see in the next few months, we understand that the newly appointed head of sap was not allowed for this appointment for a very long time, he is a person who previously conducted criminal proceedings on e- e p tatarov, accordingly, there may be certain political agreements regarding which cases are moving. i think in the next few months to six months i will show whether a certain structure has really been achieved in which, due to new appointments, they hold each other by the throat in certain cases that should not move, but in others, on the contrary, they may receive a bank blanche, well , in the end, when these are political appointments, there are always certain political parties behind them structures and we just need to understand in order to know why we
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can expect the maximum from the newly appointed persons and what we should not expect because it goes beyond the scope of what is possible and what do you think about on the one hand, he is a professional lawyer, on the other hand , after all, he is a man from the servant of the people, and according to kostin, he himself even actually said that he has known andrii yermak for a long time, so to speak , for many years. for kostin to be included in the list of servants of the people and it was thanks to the fair that konstantin became a deputy, that is, they are friends, will he be able to keep this line, this border? glory to ukraine. i asked einstein's words about stupidity . it is foolish to do everything the same and hope for some other results, you asked me about the fact
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that kosti is not a professional lawyer. well, i think that our viewers have little doubt that, for example, andriy portnov was a professional lawyer, so medvedchuk was a very professional lawyer, and rinat kuzmin was very, very - a very professional prosecutor, and we are talking about the profession, but we must talk about the results and how all these things will happen not on the professionalism and improvement of the qualifications and starts of these e-e professional lawyers, but , accordingly, on some results of improving the fight with corruption in ukraine, there are criminal cases against top officials who have not even had criminal cases for two and a half years. i'm not talking about the fact that verdicts have been handed down. they said in the words of zelensky in a phone conversation with biden that ryaba is 100% his prosecutor. apparently 100% is not enough for president zelensky. you appointed sunday, which until the
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last was hers, then she said she was surprised that she was being dismissed she said that she would go to the end, but the end was such that she was offered switzerland, that's the end, well , obviously, it ended in the end. she confused it with sweden, as she confused it with slovenia, slovakia , it seems, or latvia, lithuania. when i was still working in i was responsible for international the direction is during the election campaign of the servants of the people. well, i hope that you need it. what difference does it make, do you remember these words? sweden, switzerland, latvia, lithuania, why do you know me? in that what should you pay attention to, president? maybe she didn't go. i apologize, but you know, there is a long way between switzerland and him . good evening. it doesn't
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matter to her at all. it's a question of the end she chose for herself. now i'm talking about serious things , president zelenskyi . he makes a statement that he has that he is firing the agent of the prosecutor in one and the same statement he says that he insists on the appointment of an already elected e-e of e-e prosecutor the head of the special anti-corruption prosecutors i have a question and why are you like that i didn't make a statement earlier well, that's right, if you made a statement two days later, you finally got in touch with this question, which was on the block for a whole year, then the question arises, and it turns out that you influence the appointment of the pension prosecutor b why didn't you make this appointment this culture, this kind of statement earlier, you yourself promised, i will remind our viewers of what i have repeatedly said, for example, that president zelensky and what he promised to biden, and this is written in the final statement in the memos regarding the obligations of the appointment of the chairman specifically
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of the anti-corruption prosecutor's office, i will remind our viewers that president zelenskyy personally promised the ambassadors of the big seven that by november of last year, the head of the special anti-corruption prosecutor's office would be appointed. why is he sitting then? he did not make such a statement if the issue was connected within two days . president zelenskyi actually knows very well what was being blocked the appointment of mr. oleksandr klymenko through the aggressive district court of kyiv, which president zelenskyi brought to the verkhovna rada, an urgent law on the abolition of this court, mr. kostin, who was the head of the legal committee, blocked it, and once again, not as an urgent one introduced by president zelensky, he blocked, let's say, this law - these are facts, i have no prejudice now, i'm just talking about the facts that are happening, so it's clear that mr. kostin is actually what immediately appointed mr. klymenko to the post of head of the anti-corruption
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prosecutor's office, in fact, let me remind you, we would have learned from mr. yuramakovska's post on facebook . slow turnout, or as they said, who until now i was studying was as close as ever to failure . yes, it is clear that of the two evils, they chose the least of the two evils , because the other hack would have been completely disgraced mr. symonenko . i will remind our audience that this person who was on the birthday of e-e tatarova who if you remove the subtitles e-e under these shots e reminded me how well she knows this situation and these kind of people reminded me of a criminal embezzlement e-e do you remember all the moments mr. symonenko transferred the case of tatarov from the nabu where she was supposed to investigate well, i handed over the case, but i didn’t hand over the documents, because the case was buried in these meters of the sbu. i remind
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our viewers that it was headed by a close friend of president zelensky until recently, the head of the sbu, ivan bakanov, so you know when we talk about this successful practice in quotation marks so far, it leads to effective effective personnel decisions that are more likely to fail, then i do not expect effective work, i think that it is clear that mr. klymenko was bound by certain obligations, it is clear that he himself said that now it is not possible to investigate, well, obviously, she will be buried and further tatarov, he yermak will manage the appointments and the so-called fight against corruption, which has actually penetrated all er-e spheres of ukrainian society well, let's see, in fact, let's not do that anymore, klymenko, how can we suspect some already there according to the agreements he seems to have already agreed, but let's continue to prove ourselves, and we have it. it turns out that
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we have been lobbying for a year that klymenko was appointed. his ink has not yet dried on the paper. we are already saying that he is not like that anymore. that means he accepted some rules of the game that were imposed, that means he will be bad. let's often let even a person show himself, and in the end, this whole situation shows several systemic things. i'm sorry , get stuck . this is how from the first day this will continue until today what i well, let's say, as they say, that with such a negative handwriting of this, the second thing is that we find out who is appointed in closed mode and this custom is chosen from some nearby cup environment. that is, we see that no imitations of competitions or certain selections of teams take place in public, which, in my opinion, is a negative point. well, and thirdly, such a systemic thing is that we see a change in the position of the team in part , that is, obviously, several months of the war of zelensky
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bul a pause to change people, as they say, they don't change coons at the crossing, but now it's obvious that this dam has broken and, accordingly, the presumption has been accepted that it's worth starting to change people. i think that this is not the last change in the team if the precedent has already been set, then there will be other dismissals and replacements of people, that is, the president's office has already dared to take this step and now there will be changes, well, actually, maybe in the context of this, zelensky confirmed that this is how he deprived the citizenship of korban, a well-known businessman and politician. and also and the head of the dnipro terrodefense and until recently , i don’t know if he still exists. there are certain questions because even such clear supporters of zelenskyi were somewhat shocked by this, because it looked like such an act. well, to a certain extent, just in
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let's say it's a violation of the constitution because, well , in principle, you can cancel or decree anything with a decree. well, there are simply certain questions here, that is, where are we going in principle with such and such a decree, on the one hand, and on the other hand, it's also interesting in terms of the e- what new allies does president zelensky have around him, or does he already not need any allies, what will this mean for the other figures on this list, they have no confirmation, however, this is a very interesting story, where is it leading us, but let's go then p valery and then oleg, first of all, in fact, on the one hand, the constitution says that no one can be deprived of citizenship, on the other hand, there is an article of the law of ukraine on citizenship, in which it seems to me 19, which says that it can be deprived if a person has received a passport of another country then there is a question about eh well, i think that
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tens of thousands of hungarians a who live compactly in transcarpathia eh a lot of people in ukraine and also have eh this kind of eh other passports eh they were forced to get considering the situation that existed earlier in ukraine in relation to unemployment in relation to economic so-called growth uh, we have a situation now when we have millions of people abroad and some of them, in order to get uh, work there to a certain extent already uh either wanted or already got another citizenship, we have a serious situation, so you know, if it was done in relation to korban, then obviously they can do it in relation to other people, but the question is not in the surnames, but in the criteria for this lady, this lady recently did not work, after all, as a systemic solution, well it is clear that here the question was not as soon as it was for us as for kolomoisky, because president zelenskyi decided it. in the administration, there is such a principle, you know
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. that's why when kolomoisky fell under the sanctions of the americans , he got into the station that he invested the money taken out of ukraine, invested it, laundered it, but actually invested it all in the us economy, so that's where he received all the money laundering, uh, male in ukraine, where is he from he used to withdraw money, for example, he recently sentenced 4.3 billion e.e. from us and you and our viewers to privatbank according to the agreement of the prosecutors. it reminds me that if we raised this topic with the judges e. in the end, president zelensky himself introduced to the verkhovna rada about multiple, because i don't like the word dual, it's wrong, multiple citizenship, and it was said that it is about officials hired for work, that is, civil service employees who have to decide which countries they are we have a lot of passports that we know, and
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i don’t have enough time to list them on this broadcast of people who are actually appointed and not elected. well, they choose korban together with kolomoisky, moreover, in this way when you you are abroad. i think that kolomoi himself is neither hot nor cold . from this kind of thing, it is like depriving him of his citizenship, but korban reminded me of another story. do you remember how the whole country is? listen, when poroshenko deprived avakov and the migration service of of mr. saakashvili's citizenship. we remember the reaction then, and we remember and now we see a completely different reaction. olezhe, and your opinion on this matter, which is the society now, of course, i will not react violently to it, because the war mr. korma is not an unambiguously positive character according to which now masses of people can come out. he is not such a significant figure because he withdrew from public and political activities for a long time. he returned to dnipro and headed the territorial defense there. but there is a symptom that they reconciled, say
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at the end of the war, several dnieper clans were at knifepoint with each other, and this is a good example of how, in general , these truces at watering holes take place in our country, but now it has been broken, it is obvious that this decision of the ex-president actually demonstrates that this is a truce once those who, in their opinion, are violations of the rules, they will act on them two, this is a selective, absolutely interpretation of the law in relation to korban, plus when a person is abroad, plus the third point is not, in my opinion, very important that this is happening by secret order. well, it’s like this from the series to avoid political responsibility, it will still be from whom to disguise from whom to hide. then the question arises who else is on this list, that is, maybe they hid not korban, maybe they hid others, but korban. maybe then the house curtain for that so that we talk about him and forget about those who are still recorded there regarding kolomoisky, what is heard is that it is possible that he is there on the list, if he is there on the list, then he really has why not pay attention because it is prohibited in ukraine
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to extradite one's citizens abroad, and there is a criminal proceeding against him abroad, and everyone without citizenship in ukraine is not prohibited to extradite , perhaps there is a certain pain, a broad game in relation to him , and in this case, we can find arguments such as the fact that it may be beneficial for kolomoisky for some reason, yes it may be quite unprofitable, to put it mildly , to put him in a vulnerable position, after all , when it happens with a secret decree, then we can only discuss some of our certain thoughts , go to the thinker, etc., which does not help at all democratic development, and even more so in the conditions of war. when it concerns not itarial things, not armaments, not national security. and when it concerns especially issues such as citizenship, where the political position of the president and the president are one, i absolutely agree with valery, this is multiple citizenship. but in practice, it is implemented a little differently. m i think that this does not beautify the president, but of course now it will not cause any serious indignation or any serious political consequences for him, but in the
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future it will become one of the bricks of criticism by the opposition during the next elections after the war , and the position of the president and mr. zelensky personally. that is, this is such a delayed, uh, voucher, you know, a check written with negative results for the future elections. of very important acute political events, this week they talked about how to make sure that ukraine does not eventually turn into a dictatorship, even in a state of war, you know, well, in fact, there is a war, there are terrible problems in the economy and it would seem that it was so at the beginning that we had no political news. well, they are, they are here , oleg said very well that they actually wrote out a minus voucher there, that's so much for the credit of trust well, that's all , it will be presented according to the outcome of the
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war also, by the way, it is not completely known, because there was no thought in power, so we continue. we have the following two experts, and this is pavlo lysyansky, a human rights defender, the founder of the eastern labor of the main group, the director of the institute of strategic research and security. the topic of azov and the reindeer, what they started talking about in the previous broadcast hour, and our second interlocutor - this is tatyana pechorchik , the head of the board from the center for human rights, the change is good morning, gentlemen, congratulations, what are we going to start then, let's start with history, of course everyone is very uh, they tell me that now the
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alarm should roll in, so they are eavesdropping a little in the lviv region. more than 50 ukrainian soldiers were killed in donetsk region, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi calls this number, and actually, russia has started some alleged investigation into this story, they are collecting some evidence that it is alleged that ukraine fired at this colony, in fact, even the institute for the study of war says so that the probability that ukraine did it is almost non-existent, because unless we can get heimersoms there, but the strike was not carried out with this weapon, what do you think, what are the prospects of proving the truth in this story at all
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mr. pavlo, first of all, you need to understand what olenivka is, it is a prison, of course, it is a prison. it is located in yenakiyevo, where he once served the sentence of president yanukovych . the colonies were housed there for life. are these those who are sentenced to life imprisonment and there were a lot of conflicts, they tried to transfer them to the territory under the control of ukraine and they were not returned , and it was in 2021 that there was a riot somewhere in this colony about a year ago. here and there, their people were killed and i even have a surname. i checked yesterday and
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the question is that someone like me has long been held as a place of deprivation of liberty, and i checked two days ago, uh, the kalinov colony this is horlovka, a stage was completed, some top prisoners were taken out, this is from this colony. it is also necessary to understand that in 2018 in rostov there was a meeting where the thieves , legal from the russian federation, announced that now the control over the prisons is ordlo and they will be kept somewhere around 20 e specifically russian criminality, what am i referring to, what are the consequences of
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this tragedy in volyn?

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