women and so on. well, they say that this flash mob whitewashes elena zelenska, is this done intentionally or unintentionally, but there were just a lot of such comments, and one of them blamed i don't know which of the people who started this flash mob in either playing along with the president's office or directly working on the office of the president ah, on the other hand, this flash mob is all the same, it helps m.m. they say its defenders to get rid of this russian world in our minds, when do we have any other gender stereotypes, when we cling to clothes, give some advice, uh, about what it doesn't concern us when we allow ourselves to think that someone can do something and someone can't do something a-a well, they say that's the kind of heyd, well, these covers of ms. zelenska, her pose and style, well, it shows

haters, which people who are not involved in european civilization and are involved then more of this soviet russian eh and so on. well, eh, finally, when did the events in the deer park already take place, when did these terrible videos of copying our warrior appear, ah, hmm, many people also began to be indignant that this flash mob continues because against the background of such terrible news, photos with legs spread like this, such a pose, ah, a huge number of people seemed inappropriate , unethical, they say it is necessary, well, what about this flash mob and about this photo shoot arose. and i will try with oksana moroz in 15 minutes to figure out why so happened, but now we will talk with well , you can probably call it that, the founder of this flash mob and the historians of the new fashions of astrology of the scythian lady zoya.

i congratulate you, can you hear me? good day, i hear you . good day. well, i can only congratulate you with such with such effective work, because the response to your flash mob was simply colossal, this is not a job, this is not a job. no, i do not work as a person who creates flash mobs . actually, it is also a job to create one, even if you are not paid for it. such a thing that resonated with many people, by the way, in my facebook feed, even people who categorically do not accept politics and volodymyr zelensky, and do not support elena zelenska, joined the flash mob, but they wanted to ask you precisely for these objections well, no, no maybe not at your address, at the address of the flash mob, which they say he is twisting everything and that the complaints about the pose in particular were well, not so frequent, but the complaints

were more of a political nature, more serious and they related, for example, to a photo against the background of a dream, you already said this once, let's go we say so because if you answer um, i will say that first of all, my flashmob was created by me because i think whether we like it or not, the legitimate elected president is the symbolic body of the country and the wife is the first lady it is also him, i.e. if, for example, the president of my country lays flowers at some memorial, it means that our entire country lays flowers, if the president expresses delight or sympathy or indignation, it means that our entire country expresses it. the same applies to the first ladies if

the first lady gives an interview where she talks about ukraine and asks for weapons for her, it means that this is the common opinion of the whole country, and i think that i am not wrong here, if that is why, if someone a-a expresses some hate and it means that he denies the idea that the first lady expresses the opinion of the entire country, as i think it is very important that it is understood abroad that when olena zelenska speaks about crimes in the us congress and shows photos of our children who died or remained disabled, when olena zelenska asks for weapons to close the skies of ukraine, she is expressing an opinion all the women

of ukraine, relatively speaking, all the citizens of ukraine, that is why i created this flash mob to make it clear that we are united and such a symbolic figure in the image of the first lady expresses the general opinion of ukrainian women we support elena zelenska in that she is speaking now, it was my stateman, that is, i understand a lot of objections and people say that uh, hmm, many women do much more than her, and she was abroad, and some volunteers from the first minute, and this is all absolutely true but the symbolic body of the female body of ukraine today is olena zelenska , whether we like it or not, and not many other women

who are possibly much more worthy of it, so i absolutely agree with the fact that ah well, you didn’t say that now but i think that you wrote appears in in the comments that olena zelenska specifically with this cover photoshoot and in general and her other photoshoots creates a very good image for export, that's what i call it, it is very well perceived abroad. it seems to me that this is very absolutely and well, but the flashmob is not aimed at export it is aimed at the domestic let's say this market and that's it. i'm just sorry for the accusations that they say, uh, you rejected all the political claims regarding the fact that you know how a journalist lives, she wrote that olena zelenska , volodymyr zelensky began to become ukrainians everything started only in 2019, but it was a great start , but the flash mob turned everything into a pose and so

marginalized people's general claims, and first of all, i didn't want to do it, but i guess i'll be forced to, so i'll post a selection of european publications about this they write a flash mob. and that means this is not an internal product. i'm sorry, but i created the hashtag on purpose in english. i could write it. my first step was to name the hashtag properly . and then i realized that people wouldn't understand it . it was important for me that people from outside the country saw that we unanimous that we support the statesman first lady second i repeat once again i personally have a lot of complaints against volodymyr zelenskyi and his wife i did not vote for him in the elections if anyone is

interested i did not vote and i think i would not have voted for him in the elections if he applied there next year or a year later but now he is the president of my country my country is at war his wife in her place finally started doing everything a and i don't want hmm to think about what happened now that to weaken her statements. i want to strengthen them . this is what i can do. it seems to me that this is absolutely obvious, and everyone is internally disobedient. no, it weakens us. well, there are very interesting comments , uh, mostly from men. they write. they write. and you know, this is such a manipulative flash mob. i say, listen. and what is the manipulation? he says, well, how did you start with elena zelenska from politics, and then

feminism, now this flash mob is feminist. i say that there is nothing wrong here and there is no manipulation. so her pose is feminist and feminists are inclined women of their time in ukraine support this flash mob, you said here that it is absolutely strange, a normal thing. i understand that you are retelling the comments, and after the tragic events in the deer park, after the video that we saw, i absolutely agree that it crosses out all this nonsense with fashion magazines, which was discussed by several others days ago, but you understand that the flash mob does not depend on me, i don't control it, it goes on its own, but the phrase that when we saw such a tragic video, you can't sit with your legs uncrossed, people sit the way they sit, let men too they will stop doing this as a human being why

a tragic event happened to women and some special claims and it is necessary to move the legs immediately well this is absurd well i understand that a flash mob is not something that stops in a day it will last a long time and no no explain the pose and that pose, i.e. how a woman holds her legs does not say how much she is a patriot-volunteer and how much she cares about the events in her country. you can participate in a flash mob and help the army at the same time. this is absolutely correct. why do you think this flash mob is like that? i just understood, well, the incredible number of photos is incredible, and from men, i have seen men in a joking and non-joking way too - they are sitting and supporting the fact that a woman can sit in any pose that she likes and that's why and the main thing is that there was no such support there before and no well, taira, for example, was not supported. why from your point

of view? and i believe that this flash mob really became bigger because of the support of elena zelenska, that is, it started . and i know many people who took part in the flash mob who are not her fans and did not vote for her. that is, my entire circle of my friends did not vote for her for her husband. i'm sorry, but they took part in the flash mob because he really touched on a very painful and important topic, well, that is, the topic of the independence of the behavior of ukrainian women. it has always been relevant for us and under during the war, she became even hotter. and i already talked about it, it's a little out of time, but it at least explains this phenomenon, on the one hand, during the war, women take over men's work, they dress like men, they work like men they behave like men and it's natural well, because

life becomes difficult and you can't wear heels with make-up on and do hard work on the other hand of course the desire to be a woman and to preserve beauty for our defenders is uh a separate thesis and to be feminine for a reason after the second world war. christian dior's new bow went so well on everyone wanted to be women. these are two opposite trends, and different versions of society join them in different ways, and this flash mob definitely affected that part of society that in our country, i am not afraid of this word, it is a little discriminated, that is, emancipated women are not um in certain circles, but they do not imagine them that way, they are

marginalized, and now they are happy to demonstrate their emancipation and speak to us a lot. finally, we must break away from the archaic ideas about a woman that absolutely do not coincide with reality, now women are volunteers, they work, they work like horses, and at the same time, society requires them to have a perfect hairstyle, manicure, heels, and uh, keep your feet together uh, these are controversial calls and there are women who feel it and they want to say that they do not want to follow those artificial rules, i agree with you, i will remind you that such a flash mob may have been launched by lesya nikityuk, a ukrainian presenter who said, let's make up for the military and be beautiful, because a woman should be beautiful during the war, so what

answered the women who now in the war started talking, you know, it's somehow not very convenient to paint, to sit here in the trench and in general we don't have to be beautiful if we don't want to zoe thank you very much yes thank you i want to say that if it helps a woman put on makeup to endure all this and reach the end of this marathon, we don't know how long it will last. it's absolutely beautiful. i'm just calling on you not to prevent other women from helping themselves in another way, maybe some woman should put on pants and sit in such an affirming pose and to she felt stronger, let's let everyone find their own pills that will strengthen their strength . thank you, zoya, and now we had an exceptional one on direct contact, a fashion historian and, well,

probably the founder of this flash mob, which is called the world of girl likes that continues a-and women continue to post photos a now we will talk about the issue of ipso yes about the informational and psychological impact because again two theories a-ah two theories what does all this mean in general all this shit launched er launched the kremlin so that we could quarrel again. by the way, if you watch it, i don't encourage you to watch it. now i'll show you an excerpt from the program 60 minutes, do you remember that skabeeva leads her husband there for seven or eight minutes, i'll discuss what the cover and they spoke in green zelensk similar theses that could be seen in the comments like i don't know ah during the war you can't take pictures like that and what ah well it's not acceptable

unacceptable poses unacceptable make-up and everything about them is unacceptable let's watch an excerpt from this show это большой hypocrisy because it ’s a hairstyle, makeup, pose, style, advice, professional photos are displayed, if they were taken, what is called hepartajno, when they were traveling, helping people or doing something else, that’s what we call stuck-up journalists, that’s how the president of ukraine staged a photo, it’s one thing to do reportage i understood there, i went there, i took a staged photo , there are so many memes included in these poses, there are so many memes , where he hugs, kisses, experts in photography, oleksiy zhuravlyov, the first deputy chairman of the russian defense committee, and now we are in touch with oksana amorosa, the founder infogyene initiatives eh how not to become a vegetable oksana i congratulate

you i congratulate you oksana please explain to us why such a grand showdown is going on in our country around this unfortunate photo shoot, this is not the first photo shoot of elena zelenska on the cover of wog why now you know, i don't think so here that this is the enemy's pso, although it is really the enemy. it uses everything where the ukrainians are discussing something, and here we still have to look at what, first, some kind of enemy or ukrainian discussion, then - the enemy is using kipso, but i personally got the impression that this discussion in ukrainian, in particular, on facebook , it was louder than on instagram. it was a kind of such a release of a couple, and because it just happened with such a rather intense week when we had a large, large number of missile shelling, in the end, it coincided with yesterday's events and the day before yesterday. with the appearance of this brutal video of the terrorist attack, we are volyn residents, and here it

is, after all, this is more of a neutral topic with which you can let out a park and chat, it is one such one such a prism on the other hand, every ukrainian wants to be an expert in everything, in particular in art. and here is your previous speaker, who very aptly emphasized this, including this example from russian propaganda, he shows in the most comical way how it is er by god, when a person really doesn't really understand this art form, not in this case photography, and it's not worth commenting on it, but if you structure it to summarize, then any manifestation of the first lady or anyone in the columns of the international press, especially such as a quack right now this is extremely a plus for ukraine because it raises the issue of ukraine again and again and again, and here, whatever photo it is, the more controversial it is, on the contrary, the better. and if the first lady or anyone agrees to this on the contrary, it is a plus because if it is discussed only in the

west, of course, in ukraine they can also talk about it. and here, but in the west, every discussion is a big plus, the second plus, and still sees in the fact that the ukrainians let out a little bit, and the third plus. of course, it is under e- it is not a plus, but the third vector is what highlighted otaki. there are quite large contradictions and divisions in ukrainian society, because a is really here rather. one of political power to another, and here is such a moment in ukrainian society when not everyone is ready to recognize the advantages of what the other is doing, that is, i did not vote for zelenskyi, for example, but when i hear the speech of the ole soviet woman in the congress, i say that it is a good speech because that she is really strong, i am not a specialist in photography, that's why i didn't comment on anything here at all, because i don't know - i ca n't evaluate it in any way. and my subjective opinion is my subjective opinion, that's why it's also this moment and the

third moment - of course, it's only for something fourth, i'm sorry, when we have a discussion, russia can and must take advantage of this, and here we saw the continuation of this on russian propaganda television, that is, in fact, you don't see anything so bad in our er-er confrontations. they just released steam yes, i understood. well, by the way, what can be done? for example, relatively speaking, some part of our viewers wants to avoid such quarrels and wants to avoid, for example, this ah, how does she feel about commenting and such things in general i.e. don't comment on what you don't understand, although it's hard to admit that you don't understand it, of course, and don't criticize unconstructively. i understand that because there really are nuclear electorates of many politicians, conventionally speaking, we call them zelabots or porohobots, which boats theoretically do not

perceive the actions of eh visavi will definitely criticize what what how to keep oneself in hand actually there is such a delicate point here it is universal enough on the one hand uh on the other hand it is extremely important because now everyone wants the same side to let off steam or put pressure on the authorities or use the tool that we got used to in relatively peaceful times, well, that is, for us, there are battles in the information field, it has always been such a peculiar tool of democracy and there is nothing particularly bad in it, but now there are reports that on this information was very meticulously watched by the enemy and as soon as there are emotional discussions that are not backed up by facts and that are only based on emotions, the enemy will use it in other words if you have expertise if you have facts please express them and criticize, lobby, do what you think is necessary. if you are just

generalizing, if you are expressing your emotional opinion, then you should be very careful with this . it can be used by the enemy , and there can be such a point of view that it is okay. anyway, russian propaganda will say something, but one story . when russian propaganda invents something and tells it, and it is absolutely not supported by anything else an absolute story, if this is just a reinforcement and a discussion within society, then they reinforce each other and it goes to some other level. and i can just remind you of an absolutely different example, which also seems to have started with nothing like that in april, when there was a corruption scandal on weapons, it seemed that we have corruption, we need to talk about it loudly, although this was also not supported by any facts, and the fact that ukraine somehow trades these weapons there or on the black market, etc. and now after a few months, it’s already our coat, let’s hang around and it’s

one of those consequences, that’s why everyone here should understand that one cautious action during an information war can be a threat to the country, absolutely real oksana, i thank you, maybe real 30 seconds, you can tell why there were no such large-scale actions well, like the flash mob we talked about, why did it become so popular, and there are flash mobs in support of prisoners of war there, because one is not so big, not so active, and i think that professionals from the office also took part in this flash mob of the president, this is my subjective opinion, yes, in the end, thank you oksana, oksana moroz, a specialist in information technology , was in direct contact with us. others, please join, each of us is able to join, go to some protest actions, if you live abroad now, and if you speak

a foreign language, write something in social networks, write about our prisoners, go to these actions, draw send some cries because every little voice of ours, if any, has an impact because every little person is important and in general there is no such thing as a little person. it seems to me that there is no such thing as we should forget about it, we can all do what we support and to do something in support of what and we consider a-a important that's all i have friends i'm with you e goodbye stay with espresso we have prepared a lot of other interesting and important information for you and i'm saying goodbye to you e-e have a nice day greetings dear viewers now on air espresso tv channel's studio program will analyze the event. the most important thing is the increase in missile strikes against the background of the seemingly successful

negotiations in istanbul. the famous political scientist andriy piontkovsky, who is in washington and the former adviser to the secretary of state of the united states, the former director of european and eurasian affairs in in case of the national security of the united states matthew bryce and now on our air will work the former adviser of the secretary of state of the united states, the ex-director of european affairs and eurasia in the case of the national security of the united states of bryce's goals. i heartily congratulate you, mr. ambassador, we understand the situation in which russia now finds itself. yes, on the one hand, russia is facing the abyss into which it has driven itself, on the other hand, we understand that they will raise the degree of aggression and the third point we feel that russia may be preparing for one or another negotiation , the russian war is the same policy, only with the use of other means, russia failed to

achieve its primary political goals. in view of the plans to capture the capital of kyiv in order to overthrow the ukrainian government and take over all of ukraine, the russians resort to various tactics aimed at destroying ukrainian cities and the civilian population using long-range missile systems. russia's main problem is that they are running out of such systems, so they have to use them for shelling cities redesigned imprecise s300 land-air systems, meanwhile, ukrainian soldiers who are fighting so fiercely have modern and very accurate long-range artillery systems of the usa that significantly restrain the enemy, now the situation is at a strategic impasse, russia does not know what to do , it does not succeed in winning on the battlefield, it cannot advance beyond the borders of the luhansk region, or

capture all of donetsk, it is stuck in this war, but i think that the russians will continue battles throughout the summer and closer to autumn, when the rains come , they will be ready for negotiations, because then it will not be so easy to maneuver soldiers and equipment, well, in any case, president erdogan is now going to sochi, we understand that it is possible that this will finalize several rounds of different formats of negotiations that were held both in turkey and in iran. you are right, recently in tehran there was a meeting between the presidents of raisa reghyan and putin. as far as i understand, the attention of this meeting was mainly focused on because turkey wants to conduct another military operation in northern syria to clear the territory of terrorists and create a so-called security zone

where syrian refugees who about three seven- tenths of a million people live in turkey now. putin and raisi are not happy with such an idea, so we should wait for further discussions regarding turkey's military operation in syria. i assume that the focus of the negotiations with president putin in sochi will be on the implementation of the agreement on the export of ukrainian grain, which russia has already signed, turkey now plays a key role, in particular through the joint coordination center that has become operational in istanbul. unfortunately, russia continues its bloody games by shelling odesa ports hinting that it is higher than all agreements, the other day foreign minister lavrov suddenly announced that russia also has the right to escort ukrainian

grain ships in the black sea equatorial region the situation in sochi, well, i agree with you, mr. ambassador, now russian diplomacy reminds me of a crazy psychiatric hospital, because they make extremely different statements, absolutely inadmissibility are mutually contradictory, and on the other hand , we saw, that is, we only agreed on something in istanbul, as the next day odessa was bombarded with missiles, and we understand that the minister of defense came to istanbul, that he is a person who would be in a position to control the decision. general staff in the army, but no, russian diplomacy operates according to the principle that it is better to be feared

than loved, and in this case, it is possible that the russian authorities are also playing on their audience, demonstrating that russia is powerful and strong, even if it contracts and adheres to the agreement with the aim of delivering ukrainian grain to world markets, this does not mean that russian rhetoric has changed or that the country has become less aggressive towards ukraine as a result, this is all illogical for people like you and me who consider diplomacy a way of building mutual understanding and cooperation for russia diplomacy is always part of the struggle