give yourself this land and somehow use it, it is not known how because it is self-evident that today i spoke with my foreign friends and they think, well, what is your interest in completely destroying the city, then you have to somehow restore it, spend money, but it is not going to live they are going to leave the ukrainians there so that they just die there gradually, the opportunity to talk about the russian terrorist attack in the deer park yesterday with tetyana petrychenko, the coordinator of the media initiative for human rights ms. tatiana, greetings, good day, good health, we wanted to ask you what can be done on the diplomatic front to draw the attention of the world community to this, not just for them to issue verbal condemnations, as it is today, but for them to fulfill what the president of the supreme commander volodymyr zelenskyi so that they recognize russia as a

terrorist country well, we must talk about the fact that the subject of torture of prisoners of war has been a topic for a very long time, that is, since 2014. that we are discussing this issue, but in fact, since 2014, the russian federation and the militants under its control have detained both military personnel and civilians, mocked him, courted him, used electric shocks, some even died in captivity of military personnel, and there were such cases until february 24. accordingly, it is important not to be silent now, and this is the truth, and the system should also show the cases, which cases, which, what, what, what, what, what happened in the ordlo territory, that is,

the occupied territory of the donetsk luhansk region it is also especially important to talk about zaporizhzhia and kherson and the territory of the russian federation crimea is occupied, but mrs. tatyana, this is what is going on in my head. maybe i am wrong. it is the second day now. the impression that nothing will happen. if a thug with a weapon comes to your house at home and you can't do anything, you know when he comes to you, you call the police. and when putin comes, who can complain about putin to whom? to say that he would be able to influence putin. where is this

body of world power? where is this world government, the world minister of internal affairs, the world prison, the world prosecutor's office? which one do you call? oh , i apologize for the third one, where is it all and we can say whatever we want and they will kill torture kill rape and humanity does not know what to do with it i understand correctly it turns out that the russian federation which has proven that it is not afraid of not justice. yes, she knows that she can be left

without a treasure and how can i say at the beginning who thought of things maybe and not at all you who took them to another place maybe to the territory of the russian federation that this could not have happened otherwise to the whole colony because it is possible to the last one, well, until the last one, i didn’t believe what it was. yes, when we received additional confirmations, additional facts, we understood that this happened - this is exactly how it most likely happened because of what ukraine should do . all the crimes of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine. we talk a lot about this. we talk at the level of the prosecutor general's office, at the level of investigative bodies and at the level of the president, but, in

our opinion, there is still such a systematization going on . allowed me to say that putin and the russian federation committed those crimes and those facts would be clear not only to us in ukraine but also to the international community and in principle we understand that sooner or later putin and the highest leader of of the russian federation has to be on the dock in asia at the international criminal court of ukraine, it is very interesting about the list published by the ministry of defense of russia, the list of the implant of the surnames of the hands of eight prisoners of war who allegedly died in the deer park. there are also injuries on the list, how can we check it , do we even know for sure how many ukrainian prisoners of war there are who was there and who. who are these people? when we talk about this topic

, we must always remember that in the 14th year these territories were closed to the ukrainian authorities. human rights defenders of international and therefore we can put everything that happened there under suspicion, well, the only thing is to hope for our intelligence. it is clear now, according to this latest information that we received, in particular, the whole of shklonia, it is approximately true that 200 servicemen of the azov regiment were isolated in a certain area in a few days to this tragedy , what exactly is the number? we cannot say, we know this number, which was published by the russian side , the side of 192 people. also, today we saw these lists with the alleged dead, the alleged wounded, and those people who received trauma, i will say that we have already found familiar names on this list, but we cannot yet get a perfect confirmation of what

happened to them. thank you, mrs. tetyana. thank you . dear viewers, your opinion is also interesting. write to us on our official facebook page under the post about questions to mykola september for the interactive or write in the chat. why do you think russia committed this mass murder of volyn women? we are today - this is our main topic of conversation. it is interesting to read it so that you can communicate. angelika , just for reference, i always mention katyn, where they were killed. well, not only there, but also in the ukrainian prisons. when stalin was there, there were 22,000 poles. well, i would say aristocrats, that is, the intelligentsia . the intellectual power of poland is still impossible to rationally understand that it was just

stalin's i have my impression maybe i don't understand something he didn't like the poles the end and yes and when mrs. tetiana says that sooner or later listen to stalin killed just concretely gathered there with a hammer killed 22,000 poles without guilt they absolutely surrendered and died to themselves in the 53rd year without receiving any, well , any punishment and the soviet union recognized this only in the 89th year and in 2021 putin said that this everything is a lie and the poles are to blame for that, we all definitely hope, we understand that back then , by the way, the fascists, that is, the germans, found a cemetery with poles killed by stalin, well, of course, these uh, the soviets resisted, stalin said it was not us, it was

the fascists themselves, well it's all clear, but you see what the world is not like that, you know, good does not always win over evil, no matter how it looks, yes, and all this, he lived like this, he lived , he killed millions of people and he died for himself in the 53rd year, and everything must be punished here and now, and that's why it is like this, and here i am to what point i can just imagine that putin is the stepmother of the boys and that's all, and there is no person who is close to him, why aren't there people like us, vladimirovich, yes, well, rationality yes, yes, i said pee go pee everything lov is watering and everywhere they are already watering rashistiv and

in particular, the collaborators in the kherson region fell into the hands of the partisans, as always, the hetman always loved. the defenders blow up the warehouses, the railway bridge is beautiful. well, in short, there is a lot of interesting news of strikes on the positions of the russians in chernobaivka, novaya kakhovka, and other settlements in the kherson region. this is from the latest information, and roman golovna will tell us in more detail on duty deputy mayor of kherson congratulations glory to ukraine mr. roman glory to the heroes good day to you, what is the situation in kherson oblast in kherson i see that you would like to smile i see your mood is positive. so do n't hold back. if there is good news , tell it. if there is bad news, tell it too, but without a smile, please. the armed forces are attacking, and i want to tell you my feelings

. when i was directly in the occupation, we waited a long time. let's say yes, there was news of an offensive from our armed forces, and when there were explosions nearby, well, they were somehow even perceived as our own, you know, we were waiting for them with joy, even though it was dangerous enough, but now, well, for today today, in principle, as yesterday, our troops hmm very competently continue point-and-point, well, such offensive actions, counter-offensives and actions to destroy the enemy's power reserves, the accumulation of manpower and technical equipment in the kherson region, again, every night 3-4 the object of warehouses e-e the concentration of manpower is affected by our armed forces. this is indeed confirmed. the information that, in addition, the

logistical connection is disrupted, in particular the so-called antonov railway bridge. the damage received by this important node of railway communication and the supply of weapons and supplies for the aggressor's troops on the right bank of the kherson region has already built a pontoon crossing across the dnipro, won't this help them, and is it rather a dummy imitation of caring for peaceful residents of ensuring communication with the left bank well, and er, well, most likely more er, this is a means for the er command during the counteroffensive and to take its command to the left bank in the direction of the crimea for a faster er retreat

eh already eh in the direction of melitopol eh by itself she is actually several tugboats eh part of a pontoon crossing that they drag from one shore to another and try to supply some eh well equipment from some means eh military equipment ammunition under cover of civil transport. yes, now it is clear. because i just wanted to ask you what these pontoons are. what if the ukrainian artillery bombed reinforced concrete bridges, then something tells me that destroying a pontoon is not a problem at all. they are civilian materials there, yes, what will they be civilly? you can talk between civilians and the bitches who hide themselves. this information is confirmed , and even if you look carefully at the photos

published by the propagandists of the occupiers, you can see military equipment, but the article concerns the transportation of public transport and the destruction of such sunken crossings, as noted by our armed forces and we make sure we make sure that they are under the tight sight of our armed forces and under fire control of any crossing today, across the dnipro river, as well as across the ingulets river to novaya kakhovka, all logistical connections are fully controlled. for example, on the ingulets river, they first built a pontoon crossing, skazhem, which was so complete that it completely crossed the river. the residents immediately passed on this information, even with video recording, where they today it is located under the shore in the reeds, there they pretended to use branches

to hide various parts so that it would not be damaged, the theme of the theater of one actor is also interesting, that is, yes the so-called referendum that the occupation authorities will hold and now they are preparing . please tell me, according to your data , there are people in kherson oblast who are really ready to vote for that, i don’t know. they want independence, first the republic should do it right, and then accession to russia, well, definitely definitely not. we have seen er, well, this unfortunate beginning of the war, er, the end of february, the beginning of march, you saw how massive the rallies were in the city of kherson and what a confrontation there was against weapons. trucks filled with occupiers and with weapons in their hands who were aiming at people er there were shots in the air we were going to meet them and er well, this massiveness

indicates that there was no perception, especially the expectation, and the mood did not change, well, how can they change if er they brought complete devastation, a complete economic and social collapse to the city , and today it is actually impossible for a normal person to live there. of course, there are a number of collaborators who need to pretend to report to moscow that they are somehow acting. this and these movements are different from the referendum, but i have repeatedly pointed out, you know, the organizers of such events from the referendum, they hide their names and hide their faces under others, that is, they cannot even openly engage in the organization of this process, they are afraid . having starved to death a part of the most vulnerable social

stratum of the citizens, they will possibly encourage them to take part in the referendum. rather, if this sham that's all, the passport data that was managed to be collected, they will simply fill in the so -called ballots there, and they will show some mass there in several polling stations, and that will be all, this will be the whole referendum, that's why i think that there is nothing else than the information space to make visibility some kind of support that has never been this and that's all they are doing today with this referendum thank you mr. roman thank you very much . musienko, director of the center for military and legal studies, two angels should appear. glory to ukraine despite the war is growing in ukraine. i look at

everyone who speaks to us from a car . on the espresso channel, i turn it on for a few cars, eh, the accumulated gasoline finally managed and already nuts p oleksandr, look, since you are still in the center of attention right now because you have a center for military and legal research, and here is the question we just spoke with mr. roman, which is the main one acting deputy mayor of kherson, on the one hand, he says that it is more or less a sign of a successful counterattack, on the other hand, he says that muscovites continue to prepare for a referendum, and if it is difficult to combine these two movements in one sentence, then they are really preparing a referendum and they are not

thinking about a retreat or they are preparing to retreat and not to prepare a referendum, moreover, they are already telling me a story about the fact that a large group came there, as it is the main russian party called elina and russia, and they are already saying that they left yesterday because there is still an opportunity to escape from here and they have already left the people, what do you say about all this look well, on the one hand, in general, paradoxical things are happening there, because uh, from the sources that are available, i can say that quite a lot of russian commanders there now continue to tell about the fact that they are going to go to mykolaiv and odesa, well, in this situation, this is absolutely a step that nothing can correspond to reality, because all the facts show that they have such strength. they still really continue to talk about the referendum more in addition, there is information that the russian group that is

near kharkiv and is under the raisin is somewhat reducing its ranks there and they are being transferred to the south on i think that most likely they are being transferred to the south in order to keep the defense there and just to prevent the ukrainian villages from advancing and for some reason, it seems to me that the preparation for the referendum on their part is misinformation launched in order not to talk about the fact that the defense forces can counterattack and successfully create intolerable conditions for the russian the grouping of troops on the right bank of the kherson oblast, as usual, either, first, force them to flee from there , retreat, or, second, create a bridgehead and conditions for the transition to counterattack military operations , in any case, the conditions are met if we take kherson oblast and kherson, after all, it is no longer an advantage on the ukrainian side, so now i it seems that the referendum is what they continue to

confidently talk about, regardless of what it is , solely in order to motivate the personnel who are demoralized there and in order to to support the idea that they will be serious and long -term and ready to go further, although in fact the conditions do not indicate this at all. then the question is, see if it is true. and there is a lot of information that it is allegedly true that some reinforcements of this group near kherson are coming under the raisin from donetsk region. this means to my boyish mind that they are weakening their positions there and then it is possible to counterattack there, i.e. does russia have enough forces today to simply hold the front because if it is true that i suspect that if they are there weaken themselves near the raisin, then they can win there, and if they weaken themselves in the donetsk

region, they can win there, that is, it does not really consist of, i would say, strategic considerations . to turn out, this is exactly what the british intelligence was talking about when they reported that the russian command has a serious dilemma because today they do not have time to form forces to supplement those units that are involved in the war against ukraine, these units continue to be formed in the belgorod region in particular, but about 300 units of military equipment and heavy equipment, which continues to be repaired, have been brought there, and from there they want to collect 20,000 more soldiers with the efforts of 20 armies to supplement these units, which are and plus separate ones to send on rotation those who are demotivated, and there are such, for example, in kharkiv oblast,

donetsk oblast, but they will be ready to do this at the end of august, somewhere at the beginning of september, from here by the way and there is logic in the president's statements, who spoke about 3-6 weeks, there is time to try to advance further, and that's why it's not enough right now, they're throwing around the raisin, so i'll tell you an interesting feature , if you look at the map, ukrainian forces during the last few actions managed to break through the enemy's defense there near bogorodichny, that is a little west of sviatohirsk and north of slovyansk, and broke through the line there and broke through a series of successful counterattacks, and entrenched themselves on new, better heights, pushed back from the russian troops, that is, to things despite the fact that the russian troops are holding sloviansk, in fact, they have been approaching sloviansk from three sides for about a month and a half, and they have not been able to do this, the initiative has already shifted to the ukrainian side in the east, if we look at today, the only place from where

russia is conducting active offensive actions - this is bakhmut severska, more or less there, the situation has stabilized under bakhmut . configurations, now a good window of opportunity is being created for the ukrainian forces, firstly, in order to finally stop the advance of the russians in the east , and secondly, to continue the same tactics that are being continued in the south, because this is the tactic, when warehouses are destroyed, infrastructure is destroyed , command centers of long-range high-precision weapons such as himax are destroyed very beneficial because in this situation we are in a more advantageous position because in principle we are creating serious troubles and problems for the russian forces there at the same time and not we are conducting, let's say, exhausting battles for our

units, which in principle can gradually move on, therefore, in principle, more or less, the situation in connection with this chosen tactic by our military command is developing quite well, not as it could be, not as it would like russia, oleksandr, one more question, did you use the phrase moral state twice or even three times? do you see the end of the first world war when the front simply turned around and left and they fought fought fought fought then got fed up everyone left and went home when we talk about bad morale if you spent in the fact that near bakhmut the only one where they have well if quasi-success that

this means that the front can stop and then well, there are no victories for the russian army in some places, there are defeats , so we can somehow count on morale on bad morale in the sense of panic among our beautiful neighbors well, i think that i think so now it is already in one bud, now it has not yet acquired large-scale, well, large scales, but it is already manifesting itself. for example, i can say that there is information literally, let's say from the kharkiv direction, uh, on one of the divisions of the russian forces, they stopped giving vacations there before them or for some time they asked now, they are not going because, according to the men, they returned 30 times, this is from one of the divisions, yes, cases of desertion are recorded in the south, they are repeated, this is the zaporizhzhia kherson direction, next this is the situation that arises

for example, which is being created by the ukrainian forces when they are up to the fact that now, in addition to the fact that there are no major victories, it is also understood that they feel a certain helplessness against some types of western weapons that we will receive, and it also hits because they cannot effectively use artillery without artillery can't fight, they can't lead the offensive of companies, and they continue to be thrown at them, they continue from the order to advance, without artillery, they die. there are deserters, then in russia they start to detain them, intimidate them and so on, that's why i assume that this is the situation oleksand oleksandr and as for donetsk region, after all, we have prospects there that are more real than what was with luhansk region let's put it this way, it's a phenomenon for me too for you, as a military expert, it is obvious that in burdin

, why is it better for us in the south to counteroffensively or how to correctly counteroffensive actions there than in the east, why is the situation progressing more slowly in the east and the defense is more difficult, i would explain it just the stages of hostilities in the south. we passed the first stage when it was necessary to stop the advance of the enemy there, the enemy is not advancing, they are actively firing artillery or rockets, but they are not advancing on the ground in the east . it is already at the stage of possible completion, but still there are tasks to stop the advance of the enemy in the south, the transition to the second stage is already underway . i want to say that if we are talking about donetsk region, i do not think that the russian villages today have enough opportunities and capacities to

buy slavyansk or bakhmut or kramatorsk or there kostiantynivka druzkivka which is there to the south of kramatorsk, today everything is done in order not to give them to realize it, they set a date until the end of august, it’s all done, capture the donetsk region well, i think that they contained enough means, now ukrainian defenders to provide it sounds positive, and of course we expect our victory, whatever it may be, but it is better to believe in our defenders as soon as possible, mr. oleksandr. thank you , as always, for professional comments and explanations . we will start an interactive session with mykola veres, where you can ask your questions, and mykola will be forced to answer them, whatever your questions are, not our official facebook page, comments a-a to the post, you can ask your questions or in the chat i follow the chat thank you what

you are not with us dear tv viewers, it remains and is not in melnyk, he will tell us now, the updated news release is not, congratulations. thank you, angelica , together with the news editors, in a few moments, we will start with information about how muscovy is preparing for pseudo referendums on temporarily occupied our ukrainian territories, the russians are preparing to hold the so-called referees