to recognize russia as a sponsor of terrorism, then this will require even tougher sanctions and, most importantly, sanctions that will affect the partners of the united states and its allies. and washington obviously does not want this. tell me, what do you think is changing in europe's approach to russia he is becoming more competent. and that's what i'm asking . and now, one of the closest advisers to president macron is your ambassador isabelle dupont, who was the ambassador in kyiv when you were in paris, well, you remember her well . i remember well, too, she is competent a person in the question of student space in the 19th year, as far as i remember, he was sent for measles from ukraine to the kip well, now he was returned straight to the elysée palace, you and i begin to think ,

maybe, after all, the analytical approach itself is changing, perhaps the leaders of the western countries to realize that they were wrong and these advisors they had were also wrong, the situation looks more complicated, and maybe even more, we need foreign police and er, macron knows all important foreign policy decisions personally, that is, er, if there is influence isabel, he is not as big as we can imagine, looking at some of our advisers , and on the other hand, this is not a question of competence , that is, my observations of european politicians lead me to believe, and did not lead before, that they, in principle, understood the danger which comes from russia and we understand the essence of

putin's regime, which was not there before, there was no willingness to make public statements and the main thing to act, now finally there is a willingness to act, and whether it will last for all the time we need, this is other question, but now, at least i see a willingness to act, which was not there before. addressing the united states, secretary of state anthony blinken comments that russia's desire to hold fictitious referendums with the aim of annexing the territory of ukraine stated that the united states will act quickly to make russia understand that this tactic will not work. on friday , the coordinator of the us security service for strategic communications, john kirby, announced at a briefing the announcement of a new package of military aid to ukraine, what to expect and whether it will be received in the near future at times, ukraine long-range missiles will be attacked, the allocation of which was supported by the congress the day before,

well, again, this is not a question for me, the ato of biden and his administration, and again, for the third time, i repeat the allocation, will allocate, will not allocate, in what amount, when it will depend on what the internal american discussion is over, how they will consider it necessary to behave and what will they see as the defeat of russia. and i recently read two washington post articles that were devoted to this very problem, that is, there is a complete understanding of what russia is and the impossibility of agreeing with it on its plans for ukraine, that is, accordingly, it is necessary to reject all reservations and give ukraine the opportunity not to defend itself but

the tourists should go to the counteroffensive and the sooner, er, such a final conclusion will be made by the administration of the president. the maidan will be better for us and for them and for all our partners. another short short question regarding the visit of the speaker of the chamber the representatives of the us congress went on a live tour of asia, how is her plane flying, sir, but this is nothing at all unprecedented. it has never happened that representatives fall behind the plane of the speaker. people watched it like a show, well, of course, because the day before the chinese media was informed about it that well, that's actually why the plane is dusty and accompanied by american fighter jets, well, it's incredible tension, what can this story turn out to be and what does it mean for the world and for ukraine to be

honest, i think that, well, everything will happen because that if this did not happen, it would be a humiliating and humiliating defeat for the united states, and it was no coincidence that there was a nearly three-hour long telephone conversation between the former and the leader of china, it is very important for us to let's say the united states and here they kept the spine straight, as they say, and china understood that the united states is protecting its allies, although the situation looks quite complicated, and you also need to understand that those documents, let's say the law on relations, stand up . it does not make america american protection

taiwan is automatic and 10 only about providing adequate er military aid, but just as that er looks at how the er united states helps ukraine, so we will carefully monitor how the united states will protect the interests of taiwan and will do the appropriate conclusions thank you mr. oleg oleg shamshur diplomat as the deputy minister of foreign affairs of ukraine the ambassador of ukraine to the usa and france in previous years was our guest, we will be back in a few moments let's give maria what we have addressed the minister of foreign affairs of taiwan, joes, with a request that he comment on this visit and possibly other events related there to taiwan's participation in helping ukraine, and i hope that we will be able to receive such a comment there soon after the end of the visit, which is very interesting and

er we will continue in a moment, wait for the second part of saturday's political club, there will be many more topics and er, we will start with a deeper analysis of what happened in the hm deer park, what's next with our defenders, we see that er statements continue to be heard from all over the world of the world and uh in uh there was also a big action of uh wives of the families of mariupol defenders who uh demanded the world to intervene in these terrible russian crimes called on the world to recognize russia as a state sponsor of terrorism we will be back in a moment good evening we are from ukraine big broadcast vasyl winter my name is vasyl winter two hours of air time until 21:00 two hours

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if it is insurance on hotline finance hotline finance insurance of course, online, we continue the saturday sessions on the espresso tv channel maria gurska vitaly portnikov, and in this part we will talk with vitaly portnikov and discuss the main e-e events and military and international arenas, well and of course, what is now in the center of attention is what causes incredible pain, about which we cannot be silent. these are the events in the deer park. we see that statements continue to be made. one of the british eh politicians eh said the british mp called for the expulsion of the entire russian embassy

after a tweet about the killing of the azov people. let us remind you that the russian embassy in britain justified the killing of the soldiers of the azov regiment in a post on twitter, saying that they deserved a humiliating death. the world well we can see it from such statements, that is, the entire embassy of the russian federation in britain may soon leave, the minister of defense of poland also announced at this moment that the leadership of russia is trying to revive the evil empire, we see how the head of the orthodox church of ukraine, metropolitan the epiphany of kyiv and all of ukraine declares that the international court of justice is waiting for the invaders, that the ideology of the russian world should be banned, just as nazism and bolshevism are banned, and there are a lot of these statements, actually. and the main thing is that ukraine has not yet

received the lists of its dead. the verkhovna rada commissioner for human rights, lubinets, is currently working to activate the world community in order to first of all return the whole of the dead and give them the opportunity give a dignified burial well , secondly, of course, to investigate what happened in the deer farm, we see that the united nations has already announced that they will send a group of experts to investigate the circumstances of the shelling of the osizov deer farm, which is occupied by the russians in donetsk region well, what else is the story that is happening in parallel, this is that almost at the same time as the mass murder of volyn ukrainians , a video was shared on russian social networks in which wagner tortures, mutilates and kills a ukrainian prisoner with a knife, and here are also a number of

statements we hear and the human rights commissioner of the verkhovna rada says that we are preparing an appeal to the un of the european committee for the prevention of torture of the international red cross, and that ukraine will also demand that these crimes be held accountable . the people of azov who are talking about what, who are talking about what, i just want to quote it verbatim. azov , to putin, you yourself will be executed together with your shikals, and the people of azov have declared that everyone involved in torturing ukrainian prisoners of war will be liquidated point by point. congratulations, what do you think about this first of all how should ordinary ukrainians react to all this, and secondly, will this story become a reference point for the fact that a new ukrainian massat will really emerge, an organization that will deal with e-e lining up and liquidating such criminals

around the world several test first er everyone deserves er justice and no one deserves a humiliated death even a person whom you consider a criminal deserves a trial i am this if we talk about what russian diplomats say, the whole problem is that the political culture of russia - this is the political culture of the gola and that is why prisoners of war in the soviet union were treated the same way as their own citizens were treated after the second world war. well, if thousands and tens of thousands of germans, japanese, italians, who they died at will, engaged in hard labor, obviously not at all. each of them was guilty of something. it is obvious that those who committed war crimes had to be presented before the tribunal as it happened, by the way, there in the american, british, and french occupation zones, and someone was

found guilty and someone was found innocent because was not a direct participant in the crime because it is one thing to be a direct participant in a crime and another to simply serve in the army of the nazi regime or simply be a citizen of the nazi state, that is why there is individual guilt soldier or public servant or citizen - this is not a collective responsibility, you understand that not every citizen of the russian federation should be executed for the crimes of vladimir putin and not every soldier of the russian army is convinced and you are every officer because there are people who commit crimes people who serve and simply do what is required of them by the statute of the armed forces of the russian federation, these are all different things in russia, i never thought so. i am happy for commander salman, who was terrible, of course

, from the point of view of the russians, yes, he was a terrorist and he was arrested, he was tried and he was sentenced to life imprisonment for according to the law in force in the russian federation, and then in a few months he died in a colony, well, he was there they killed mercedes, we don't understand, so there is always such a question, either you change your legislation and impose a death sentence on a person and carry it out, or you give him the opportunity to survive and serve his whole life in this colony for those who have a sentence of life imprisonment, but when you sentence him to life imprisonment and then kill him in a few weeks or places, this is cynicism. of course, you understand this, and the russians live in this cynicism, they simply do not understand what a fair trial is, and that is why they do not react about

russian diplomats the second point is also surprising, it’s quite obvious that i don’t think that you can afford to live in the world of illusions. so when there was a story about the exit of the azov people from azov, well, you can’t assume, even if you really want to, that if someone falls into the hands of the russians, that he is easily one of these hands can get out alive, it's not true and calm down oh, well, there our special services will talk to their red cross, it's about the same naivety, hotels, the pope, you see how they treat the hotel, or the pope,

well, absolutely do not spit on anything in this case, how many divisions does he have? i specifically asked the chitailing of my time. so, in this regard, it is also necessary to understand that there will be many more such events. during this war, the war will be long, then many people will have to learn to live with it in ways that third parties or it is possible to create a siege, it is not just beautiful words of the prime minister of israel, goldemir, send the boys, they were said when palestinian terrorists killed the israeli sports delegation at the olympic games in munich, it is also very similar , terrible tourist mossat needs a professional state, professionalism in politics, understanding of priorities, understanding of what special services are not business services. and this is a serious matter. the state must be political and professional from the top to you if it is professional of the political state of the political state

there won't be any garden, you also need to realize this and you also don't need illusions that in massat it's just there plus good simple guys who want to kill the enemies here and they fight them, the enemies will find them, arrest them and conduct a show trial because the enemies have been developing for decades well, we will just look at the people from whom we wanted to see our massad on russian television channels during these court proceedings. and we need to be destroyed. these cats who kill our citizens, that's why you have ukraine to a professional state to a professional special service to ukrainians' understanding of their responsibility for what state they do not want to see after the war ends, the war will definitely end, i will not say when it may be a long time, but then we will have to build the ukrainian state from a clean slate because this the war shows that what we did until february 24, 2022,

it bankrupted the happiness that we have in the armed forces, but we as a people, as a state, were not ready to accept the very fact that we are next to a country whose main political goal is the destruction of the ukrainian state and people, and it goes without saying that the leader of this country talked about it out loud, the truth was that there was a big article by putin, do you remember that there are no ukrainians, everyone laughed at all of ukraine, there was a big article by medvedev, remember a few months before the attack , which was ridiculed already at the level of the un authorities, a clown , some clown who simply wants to raise his political authority in this way, and the bear there clearly said and wrote simply their invasion plan you really don’t need any explanations to read medvedev , and we all understand, everyone turned out to be unable to perceive even signals. and the fact that we were written in black

letters on a white sheet were written these famous words that putin said to the federal country of austria, the map of nihanber without any articles, i destroyed them he said, so now it is necessary to draw this conclusion if we want to squeeze out and not want to become another ten regions of the russian federation and build a state and in such a state an effective state with responsible citizens who will forget will not forget what they were. one step away from death , everyone and their children and loved ones will be professional massadists if they are sober. well, if there is no professional state, there will be no massad, the federal security service of the russian federation will send raids on the territory of ukraine to capture whoever it wants and then show it on tv will be like this and not vice versa . in prague, the forum of the free peoples of russia was visited by ukrainian diplomats, it was included in our

ether, from there diplomat pavlo klimkin and hanna hopko were included. empire and how capable are the enslaved peoples of russia to rise up and free themselves from this prison of peoples, and a few weeks ago, journalists, investigators, the head of bryngket, christ threatened, commented on the topic of how russia is sending dagestani buryats and representatives of other russian national minorities to ukraine as cannon fodder. i mentioned these aspects because the president's office said that whoever was involved in the torture of russian

prisoners of war is identified as such, so journalists have already identified this torturer as the one who maimed a ukrainian e- andriy tseplienko, a military journalist, published on his blog that this is 39-year-old vitaly aroshanov from the republic of kilmyk, and let us remind you that the azov residents have also already announced that they will find everyone involved and eliminate them. do you know why the most cruel in these wars of conquest are always the representatives of the peoples enslaved by russia, we see how in buch the most cruel for some reason were the representatives of the buryats, although christ emphasizes that among the buryats, the dominant ideology is buddhism and the dominant religion and they refuse to fight because i am extremely peaceful, but we see in two russian wars in ukraine the kadyrovs who

are just trying to compete in cruelty towards ukrainians. how can this be explained, because they themselves suffered so much and are suffering now, they see how their people are suffering as part of the russian federation, which is very well known, the most cruel soldiers of the ottoman empire were people, as a rule, of slavic origin, who became janissaries of the sultan from childhood and then showed such cruelty that no representatives of the turkic peoples in and in the end, roksolana was not crueler than the sultan's wife, remember , that's why you entered the history of the ottoman empire, she was invincible because she easily destroyed everyone who stood in her way because she needed to survive, a janissary always has to survive in the conditions that the representative of the dominant nation will receive automatically, he will not automatically, firstly, secondly, any enslaved people is divided into two groups, and ukrainians have never

been excluded here, as you understand, people who are self-aware part of this people and fight for it to exist. although there are people who believe that it is most profitable in this situation to be part of the dominant people in every city and have all the dividends from it. there is also nothing new in this before as the soviet union was created, joseph stalin, who was known to be a georgian, was a supporter of all non-russian territories that were occupied by the bolsheviks becoming part of russia as autonomous republics, just as the current ones are fighting or the kamikis are joining russia, so should ukraine enter georgia, the georgian communists were against this idea of ​​joseph stalin had a hand-to-hand fight, they fought with

a person who came from moscow to inform them that they would be an autonomous republic within russia, they fought very seriously, it was also him, he couldn't do it there were decisions, the secretariat is interesting, the checkpoint is all written . the question is that the person whom they beat, who hit them hard in the face, and not only pavlych, but also with his feet , was a representative of the central committee of the party, today, tomorrow, serhodzhenikidze is taken into account, he was also georgian. er, a huge number of people of ukrainian origin who were not keen on anything, ministers and enemies of their own people, and when they worked in russia, what is a brighter example dmytro kozak deputy chairman administration of the president of russia, who was responsible for the ukrainian direction and advocated war with ukraine, as we saw at the zbygovyt security council of

russia, remember, and i'm not talking about ukrainian communists, okay, there's some shcherbytskyi, although also yes, but there's some malanchuk, the secretary party's ideology, which destroyed everything ukrainian around him, well, great examples in the 20s and 30s were actually physically destroyed, maria, all the heads and leaders of the zionist and jewish national parties of the russian federation, but the people who accused those who subjected them to torture. they were very often jews themselves by origin. they wanted to serve as a chauvinist. and by the way, it was the leader of the bolsheviks, volodymyr levina, who wrote at one time that the greatest russian chauvinists and murderers, as he said, is a classic work of lenin's before it was taught there are representatives of

non-russian origin in universities and schools, so the fact that there are so many representatives of national minorities among the people who ended up in ukraine does not surprise me, and there is another moment. putin did everything possible. it is a completely deliberate policy that these territories are marginalized, for which the people who lived there did not have the opportunity to live there , that they left there, that they were dispersed throughout russia and that they were not there, even where they still are, in what number, that they were not in that number are they manufacturers throughout russia in order for them to be part of those battalions that are now tools of hidden mobilization ? in the autonomous case, is there anywhere else in kalmykia there is nothing for you to do there, there is no real work there, there is no social elevator for young people, here she is

one person, who is right, they are buddhists, kalmy , those beets, beets, it means that they do not use it like that, alcoholic representatives, uh, how is it to say intelligently, eh, the great russian people , so as not to offend them. well, they don't drink so much, you know, in the villages, strong guys train and engage in national types of wrestling, well, that is, they are physically developed, and what do they to do in er 16 there 18 years between you need to somehow build a family and they have nothing, there is no work, a real profession, no work, er, there is no apartment, but in the army, a good salary, a military mortgage , they are pushed to this well, as a rule , representatives of the rural the population is not even ulan-ude, some chilista, but some, as a rule, rural areas around this and now it is already said, reading these posts that, in principle,

young men are no longer in the beetroot itself, there are several beetroot districts in the composition of russian regions agent's buryat district ustiandyn's beret district they were once established districts but putin eliminated their status and there are almost no men there, why did i say that they should learn the fucking language there? there are no young men there anymore, almost everything is done purposefully , that is, he uses this war out of many purposes, how does this happen with cysts, that is, on the one hand , he is on the other side in russia, you see, he is already arresting everyone he sees, i recently saw the verdict of one of the russian courts, a person there the person was sentenced. it seems to me that she is even imprisoned. not a single word in social networks, they wrote a few in some kind of simple way , they put a smiley face there, and in some of them they put some brackets for insults, only for insults, the person did not say a single word