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the ukrainian view. against the background of the seemingly successful negotiations in istanbul, the famous political scientist andriy piontkovskyi will speak about war and diplomacy, who matthew bryce, former adviser to the united states secretary of state, former director of european and eurasian affairs in the case of the national security of the united states, is in washington. states met by bryce i heartily congratulate you, mr. ambassador, we understand the situation in which russia now finds itself. yes, russia is standing on the one hand in front of the abyss into which it has driven itself, on the other hand, we understand that they will raise the degree of aggression and the third

moment we feel that russia may be preparing for one or another negotiations russian war is the same policy only with the use of other means russia failed to achieve its primary political goals refers to plans to capture the capital kyiv in order to overthrow the ukrainian government and to take over all of ukraine, the russians resort to various tactics aimed at destroying ukrainian cities and the civilian population using long-range missile systems, the main problem of russia is that such systems in they are running out, therefore, for shelling of cities, we have to use modified inaccurate s300 land-air systems, meanwhile, ukrainian soldiers who are fighting so fiercely have at their disposal modern and very accurate long-range artillery systems of the usa, which significantly deter

the enemy, now the situation is at a strategic impasse , russia does not know what to do she cannot win on the battlefield, she cannot advance beyond the borders of the luhansk region, or capture all of donetsk, she is stuck in this war but i think that the russians will continue fighting throughout the summer and closer to the fall, when the rains come , they will be ready for negotiations, because then it will not be so easy to maneuver soldiers and equipment, well, in any case, president erdoğan is now going to sochi, we understand that maybe this will finalize several rounds of various formats of negotiations that were held both in turkey and in iran. you are right, recently in tehran there was a meeting between the presidents of raisa reghyan and putin. as far as i understand, the attention is on this

the meeting was mainly focused on the fact that turkey wants to conduct another military operation in northern syria in order to clear the territory of terrorists and create a so-called security zone where syrian refugees could return, of whom turkey currently lives. about three seven- tenths of a million putin and raisi did not i am delighted with such an idea, so we should wait for further discussions regarding turkey's military operation in syria. i assume that the focus of the negotiations with president putin in sochi will be on the implementation the agreement on the export of ukrainian grain, which russia has already signed, turkey is now playing a key role, in particular, through the joint coordination center that has become operational in istanbul. unfortunately, russia continues its bloody games by shelling odesa ports,

hinting that it is higher than all agreements. the other day, foreign minister lavrov suddenly announced that russia also has the right to escort ukrainian grain vessels to the black sea equator russia is playing with fire and it is not known whether it is going to comply with the signed agreement at all president erdoğan, to put it mildly, is not satisfied and wants to clarify the situation in sochi, well, i agree with you, mr. ambassador, now russian diplomacy reminds me of an insane psychiatric hospital, because they make extremely different statements that are completely unacceptable and mutually contradictory, and on the other hand, we saw, that is, we only agreed on something in istanbul as the next day odessa was bombarded with rockets and we understand that the minister of defense came to istanbul, that he is a person who would be in a position

to control the decision. from the russian general staff in the military, but no, russian diplomacy works according to the principle that it is better to be feared than loved, and in this case, it is possible that the russian authorities are also playing with their audience, demonstrating that russia is powerful and strong, even if it concludes and adheres to agreements with the aim of delivering ukrainian grain to world markets this does not mean that russian rhetoric has changed or that the country has become less aggressive towards ukraine as a result, this is all illogical for people like you and me who consider diplomacy a way of building mutual understanding and cooperation for russia, diplomacy is always a part of the struggle, all life for russia is a continuous struggle

, therefore the signals it sends are often contradictory for us. they consider intimidation as their most important diplomatic tool, and this explains such strange russian diplomacy. maybe they really are running out of resources. they still have a lot of old soviet equipment, they do not have enough of the latest equipment, and therefore they turned to iran with a request for help with drones devices in your opinion, how many more resources do they have? russia is clearly running out of military resources. they don't have the missiles that ukraine bought from turkey. the main thing about missiles is that they are extremely accurate and cost-effective when striking with accurate and deadly weapons

. they are also relatively inexpensive. russia does not have such a weapon and therefore turns to iran for drones, this shows that its reserves are not so large and inexhaustible in russia, it may even lack the capacity to withstand the military potential of the armed forces ukraine and ukrainians, the way the ukrainian army is fighting this war is simply amazing. the armed forces have shown the whole world how fierce, brave, effective, well- managed, and independent they are. turkish drones are important for gathering operational intelligence data, which the ukrainian armed forces use to slow down and make the russians nervous in combination with missile and artillery systems of high mobility or himers that the usa supplies to ukraine, russia has no chance of

victory, and putin's appeal to the leader of iran on my the view is a sign of the russian army’s stepfather, what other opportunities can russia find in the current situation. yes, we understand that to force ukraine to surrender , they will not have the strength to use unconventional weapons , nuclear tactical weapons. tried to arrange hiroshima or nagasaki in ukraine with the aim of forcing us to peace and the third point maybe they are really looking for some big agreement formula because the russian ultimatum of december of last year failed, we stopped it in ukraine, but this does not mean that russia is not ready to use the situation for its current purposes, we cannot

discount the possibility that putin will use nuclear weapons on the territory of ukraine to intimidate the whole world, returning to the fact that the war is a continuation of the policy using other means, it should be said that the use of nuclear weapons in ukraine really undermined any political goals that putin probably pursues, he wants to conquer or return all of ukraine nuclear weapons will only strengthen the resistance he faced. putin sees how fiercely and courageously the entire ukrainian nation is fighting, and also having secured unexpectedly strong support from the united states and europe, which is only getting stronger with the commission of another war crimes by russia as a code in buch at the beginning of the war or now when they are again and they again hit the centers

of the concentration of civilians. putin is gradually beginning to realize that he really needs to find a diplomatic formula to end the war, which has preserved his reputation, but until the autumn rains, he and will only drive his troops forward. putin wants to grab as much as possible. therefore, he will now desperately use as many human and military resources as he can. he can also return to the formula discussed at the end of march in turkey, according to which russia ceases hostilities and withdraws its troops from the territory of occupied since february 24, ukraine promises in exchange that it will not join nato in the near future, and the legal status of donbass and crimea will remain uncertain for the next 15 years, i think that in the end this will be the formula that

putin wants to use in order to save face in front of the people of russia and stay in power, but so far he is not ready to stop the war, but unfortunately, a lot more blood will be shed, it is about the priceless blood of our soldiers and officers from the second on the other hand, we understand that putin is using an energy tool, we understand that he has time left, maybe six months, he is now trying to use energy blackmail to force the european continent to make certain decisions, we we understand that it is not about the price of gas, and we understand that in a year the european union will no longer be so dependent on russia in the gas issue. yes, but this winter will not only be bloody, but it will be very cold, and we understand that it was not in

vain that they tried to play the story about the impossibility of gas pipelines to the european union is a certain confrontation that is brewing between europe and russia, russia is threatening to completely stop gas supplies, which it will eventually be able to do even knowing that it will create real difficulties for the russian economy and the russian government. and this confrontation between the russians and the europeans will also complicate the financing of the war, because russia thinks that the europeans will not want to suffer as much as the russians, in russian literature, for example, it often talks about how much suffering the russian people had to endure, suffering is even presented as a factor which in noble consent europeans will not suffer such suffering so this winter will be quite uncomfortable for

europeans but it will not be comfortable mainly for some large companies, not homes, these will be cold times for europe according to public opinion polls in germany, germans are ready for a decrease in the temperature in their homes, they are ready for a certain slowdown in economic growth because they know that russia must be stopped on the battlefield, the real challenge will be to change their opinion in the middle of winter if it will be very cold and the discomfort will exceed the current readiness, so far europe shows readiness to resist russian energy blackmail, in which case russia will a devastating economic blow has been inflicted and it will not be able to continue financing military actions against ukraine in the spring. well, actually, mr. ambassadors, the question

of the kremlin's rationality or adequacy to those challenges, we understand that when they tried to implement the blitzkrieg strategy in ukraine, they would not have a plan now. as far as i understand this energy blackmail is about blackmailing the european union and ukraine, they are also trying to implement it without a plan and the impression is that everything will end in some kind of secret an informal demand of the world political and economic elites to their counterparties in the kremlin with the demand to remove putin from power after all, and we understand that putin is also aware of this, that putin is not ready to step down from power because he has done much more than slobodan milohevich did or well, if there is a shesk in romania, one can only guess what mood prevails inside the kremlin

. of course, there are people who are very disappointed and worried about putin 's lack of a plan. now that the europeans are preparing to defend themselves from russian energy blackmail europe is determined to give up russian energy resources forever the kremlin elite is beginning to understand that putin is actually burying the russian economy forever maybe there will be those who will say that it is time for a change but so far there are no signs of this even if putin is removed from his system will remain, someone else will come, more or less capable, but who is part of the current system, unless something completely unpredictable happens, for example, a national uprising

the russian people who will say everything is enough, only then the movement is not the whole machine, the repressive forces that keep navalny and other opposition figures in prisons or in exile, this would lead to the complete collapse of putin's system, unfortunately, there are currently no harbingers of this, so he must be stopped on the battlefield to what extent the collective action will be ready to support us on the battlefield, we understand that ukraine has received unprecedented help, but on the other hand, we are aware that our real needs are two or three times greater as john gerbs rightly said. last week in our conversation with him, yes. some elites in the white house

have an irrational fear of the kremlin. and before that, a few days before that, the head of the cia also visited e in the capital of armenia, accordingly, certain signals are being sent, once my immediate supervisor was the director of the cia burns, he knows russia well, i don’t know if he really met at a discount or exchanged they are information, but it would be logical, now there are so many questions why nareshkin went to yerevan to pick up a berets and why to yerevan, unfortunately, i do not know. it is important that such discussions take place because there are people in the white house who are expediently thinking about what will happen if putin will continue to threaten the use of nuclear weapons or such will dare to use them. henry kissinger stated this in

an interview with the financial times, describing how unthinkable we can be the consequences of using nuclear weapons. we must think about what will happen in the event of such use. apart from this, i have no idea what was on the agenda of the director of the cia. in some departments of the white house, there is concern about not driving putin into a corner, to which he can react by escalating the conflict in accordance with russian military doctrine, namely by escalating conflict to make the enemy surrender i have a slightly different vision if i were still in the us government i would advocate that we completely defeat putin on the battlefield and force him to change his political goals to destroy ukraine was no longer one of them, so i would also be

very happy, mr. ambassador, if you would now make a decision in the white house, because what the kremlin did in ukraine is simply unprecedented. it is about tens of thousands of dead civilians . on the battlefield, we are talking about the people in mariupol, so they shelled the peaceful city and did not allow us to leave there, but on the other hand, we understand that now extremely powerful signals should be coming, we are talking about the possibility, i don't know, of declaring russia a state a sponsor of terrorism, yes, on the one hand, it has a certain symbolic or pr effect. but maybe it would have some real leverage . thank you for your comment. regarding my return to the white house, i would call for russia to be called by its true name, it is a terrorist state, not even a

sponsoring state of terrorism. why does the usa blame the rana, it is a state that commits terrorist acts? i remember 6 years ago when russia, together with the assad army, began bombing hospitals and schools in the syrian aleppo of european leaders at the international conferences asked why they are silent in response to such war crimes since no european or american official spoke then with a clear position on syria the russians are now using the same tactics the same war crimes against ukraine recognize russia as a terrorist state or not there should be a clear statement in support of that what is president zelensky talking about to call the shelling of residential buildings by their names, these are terrorist acts, this is political violence against innocent civilians in

the pursuit of political goals is now the most important thing , as us defense minister lloyd austin said, to weaken the russian economy, that it could no longer continue this war and definitely did not repeat such a scenario with its other neighbors, as it already happened with georgia and twice with ukraine. so this is a genius formula, we are talking about minister austin's formula but on the other hand, we see how the kremlin symmetrically and systematically destroys our economy and we understand that they are doing it deliberately and they will do it in the next few months in order to try to finish off certain sectors of our economy, in particular well, we understand that mariupol is not just a port, it is a

colossal production of steel and so on. support financially and at what level , yes. because when i hear that the west should give us something, tens of billions of dollars . no questions to the ukrainian side, and i would like everything to be transparently understood and under control, the issue of attracting funding for the restoration of ukraine is already on the world agenda a couple of weeks ago in lugano, switzerland , a conference was held organized by the president of switzerland, the international community is already engaged in planning, which only speeds up the beginning reconstruction of ukraine, it is important that russia will be forced to compensate for the damage caused, at the same time let's recall

the history after the first world war when germany presented a huge bill under the treaty of versailles for the restoration of europe, it is about reparations for the damages caused during the first world war, this contributed to the destabilization of the establishment of nazi germany and led us to the second world war, so all these historical lessons are now in front of the eyes of european and american politicians, a good moment is that they are already looking for funds to restore ukraine, regardless of what share of compensation russia will be forced to pay, unfortunately we have to end our conversation, i am sincerely grateful to you , mr. ambassador bryza, for this excellent analysis on the espresso tv channel, the istanbul talks

were needed not only by ukraine, they were needed by putin and the kremlin, we understand the situation putin is in now, in particular, he will soon officially receive the status of a country sponsor of terrorism and will continue our analysis of the iconic political scientist who is in washington andriy piontkovskyy greetings , dear andriy andriyovich of the studio of the espresso tv channel, i would like to start our analysis with the most important event of the finalization of the istanbul negotiations, which ended with missile attacks on odesa. i do not know for what purpose the russian defense minister shoigu was sent there, because he specifically signed everything, but everything went in a completely different direction, but still we see that the control coordination center, so to speak, formally works on your opinion about what was going on now, why did they still shell odessa and what are the possible further

steps ? yes, they are in a collective mine mine bunker, we are in a difficult position in the kremlin, they understand that they have suffered a throbbing strategic defeat, the plan to subjugate ukraine has failed, everything and everything they are doing now, they are trying to achieve it, they are desperate, they are trying to achieve a cease- fire, that is why they were devoted mainly to the istanbul negotiations. m-m persistent demands of moscow to this package agreed to add a ceasefire to the kherson military. to disrupt but do not want to diplomatically well, this line of putin is called for living let's say so , er, mad fascists who confessed to him

that it is not enough to be a fascist, well , the ukrainian audience. we don't understand the types of fascists, so to speak, because for us they all became somehow equally mad, somewhere normal if they were somewhere somewhere, somewhere they were dissolved , maybe they were dissolved in acid, because regularly these or other generals die. well, this is such an easy retreat, that's why they often have the right ones who know what the left is doing, but the general tendency is to obrensovaya, that's the decisive factor, not yours. the three european leaders, macron and shultz, with the so-called

italian plan, put their noses in the war crime of putin's regime, they did n't even dare to speak out. norgana is becoming irrevocable. dogan is starting to repeat the same kremlin dungeon as his time a month ago. macron should not humiliate putin. give putin a chance. give putin a chance to save face . the west is not talking to russia. more capitulation of ukraine, is there a so- called cease-fire, which, er, fixes in the first place means that it is fixed on the territory under the control of russia, and secondly, it gives an opportunity to putin sell yours to the murderous people when someone wins

and the most important thing. the most important thing is that i am a human being , if no one knows very well that the situation is here, i will report to you next day after this change . - let's get to the world , there is no chance to end the stands anymore, not in ukraine. that's what putin is trying to achieve. that's what i think, yes , i needed him. logan is absolutely price-minded, a pragmatist. he needed him for a serious scene. which they will discuss on the 5th of august. i think that dogan needs him in syria. he sees the attention on the first of august . an official mandatory meeting of the security council of turkey on the situation in the

north has been appointed. in the case of forcing ukraine to capitulate well, this is a second question, it will never be ukrainian society or ukraine, we are not just talking about the pagans of putin and the witch. to have freedom in general, that's what it is, and for example, an exchange is being prepared for ogoro-turkish france. i understand that putin is generally not against exchanging money in syria. now the question is, i think it is extremely serious that putin will be kicked out of the south of ukraine. this will be a demonstration of the complete military worthlessness of the russian federation as the supreme commander and as the leader of the pack, that is, he will lose very seriously and that is why he, i don’t know , uses missiles every day in order to