they will somehow agree on some terms of resurgentization with the investor. therefore, this default is a real default of a real woman. yes, but it will end there in a month or a half as a result of the restructuring, they will agree on the long-term effect of which there will be no default. the only question is that it does not allow it now to attract funds for the purchase of gas but again, we have a philosophical question: is it necessary or necessary to attract these funds , taking into account the crazy prices for gas that are currently on the market, we will come back with you, sergey well, we wanted to i would accordingly ask mr. neskhodovsky about the so-called finance. everyone is talking about this, not lazy, the realities of this are difficult to predict. well, the situation, so to speak, with the oil and gas defaulter, and the energy cabinet is launching exactly such processes. well , you are absolutely right, the cabinet said. let's consider, they set the parameters that it is necessary to accumulate 19 billion cubic meters, despite the fact that in the previous year there was 18.6, on average, 17.9

, that is, why are there a billion cubic meters more than the average for previous years in 2016, 14.5 billion cubic meters, for what did someone make the correspondingly inflated figures further, then a-and, at the same time, 120,000 houses are not taken into account. they are destroyed, that is, in other words, they do not need heating. now evacuation is being carried out from the donetsk region. there is a question whether there will be. will there be the possibility to supply gas, accordingly, we have a destroyed enterprise that today needed gas in serious volumes, and accordingly, now it is not needed further, then we also have it. if we consider the situation with a default in this way, then to me, it looks like such an artificial default. when in fact the cabinet of ministers forced naftogaz to default. i agree that naftogaz conducted proper negotiations with the share holders in order to offer them conditions that would be acceptable for them, that is, they were actually presented with the facts. but they had

the funds to pay. but again after all, on the 21st, a decision is made that it is necessary to agree on this payment exclusively only with the cabinet of ministers, then the cabinet of ministers does not give permission , why this game to tip the image answers for i didn't understand. that is, it was possible to calmly start negotiations much earlier and, accordingly, after these proverbs, it is possible to get a favorable agreement directly for naftogaz. now for energy, well, sorry. for today, i did not understand what our gas balance will be, how it will be carried out, and the cabinet of ministers does not address it. to the population , again, about what you absolutely rightly said about economy, look at what germany is doing, which is in worse conditions than we are, from the point of view of how their gas supply is cut accordingly. and we have on the contrary, the need for purchases is increasing, instead of saving money, it would be possible to appeal to the public , it is possible to lower the temperature in germany , the issue of lowering the temperature in the premises from 18 to 16°c is being considered. it is 20°c here, and i do not hear

that anyone has reviewed accordingly. how should it be ? plans have been developed for some cases of the technical impossibility of gas delivery, for example to the eastern regions, well, now the cabinet of ministers is simply pursuing a failed policy in terms of preparing for the heating season and does not develop no plans in order to survive them normally . everyone should understand this, and here again the question should be raised about the responsibility of this government, its competence, or maybe even i don’t know how i would be considered as economic sabotage , energy sabotage in relation to ukraine, mr. ilya. thank you for your comment we convey hello to your charming assistants on the air today, i couldn't help but notice. i personally love such lively moments on the air. serhii, there is still a small subtopic that needs to be discussed starting today at the ban on the export of russian coal has come into force in the european union. this is the official

website of the european commission. the clause on the embargo on russian coal was included in the fifth package of eu sanctions against russia, which was introduced back in april of this year due to the usual full-scale aggression of the russian federation against ukraine. well, here is the question. how much will the russian federation lose every month due to the impossibility of exporting its coal to the european union, and whether it is due to some, i do not know , more or less tangible tsarinok of their russian die, but in principle this ban will not be critical, it is clear that oil and gas are the most important and critically important for them. these are the revenues that now completely determine the formation of the russian coal budget. well, it is good that billions of dollars were banned, and i already considered it as an element of the 1000 strategy parisians. that is, each such ban will not destroy the russian economy, but all of them together here, coal, there,

gold, there, they covered up technologies, isolated them from imported parts, and all this together exhausts the russian organism, but unfortunately for us, it exhausts instantly, yes, as it were, with a sledgehammer on the head, but while the blood flows, flows, flows, well, look , now an interesting epic is unfolding with ukrainian grain, and it seems that in libya, if i am not mistaken , the vessel of cheering was arrested. thank you and antin , the vessel was arrested on suspicion of that the stolen ukrainian grain is located there, and that is what i am interested in. and why did not similar sanctions with russian coal happen earlier when the russian federation de facto exercised and continues to exercise control over temporarily the occupied territories of the ukrainian donbas, where there were many mines left, we understand that the russians did everything possible with these mines, looted coal from these mines with their own coal and

could transport it anywhere. well, here is a moment of some kind of historical justice. first of all, it goes there in neutral waters, the only country that passes through its territorial waters could arrest it, turkey, accordingly, there should be a statement from ukraine and there should be appropriate evidence turkey is not always, especially on the eve of this grain agreement, because they need ukrainian grain anyway, they acted accordingly and even released other countries that could arrest them. they were facing elections or famine. now there is not enough hunger in the country, respectively. grain or turn a blind eye to the fact that it is stolen, it turned a blind eye to the fact that it is stolen, that is why in this situation they acted out of such self-interest and spat on international law , and regarding coal, coal on europe ukrainian coal did not arrive and ukrainian

coal sometimes arrived directly in ukraine, we bought stolen coal from us when it now passed through russia through belarus and then entered ukraine and went to ukrainian power plants, so the question is the same for us, how adequately we responded to this situation and why did we buy stolen coal from illegal formations, including involving such a rather wild scheme, and about the world? here, again, there are questions for our international organizations. today is the same, despite the fact that there is evidence of this, there is a journalistic investigation, there is a statement from diplomatic institutions, but from those organizations that should react, they, well, let's be honest, do not react to this, i don't know for what reasons they, if it is not a question

of a specific country in which there is a famine and people are dying and they need ukrainian grain. is it somehow possible to explain the international community for this ? their inaction to date is criminal. but again, we should also show greater activity is possible, it is certain that there is also an agreement regarding the consequences of the fact that we would have the opportunity to deliver grain and send it from our parks. maybe, but to what extent should we allow it to steal and legalize it, this question remains. accordingly, thank you very much gentlemen, for this brilliant analysis of rather difficult e-e topics serhiy fursa investment bank kir and ilya ne schadovsky director of the institute of socio-economic transformation worked live on espresso tv channel 10:00 a.m. 38 minute khrystyna yatskiv well, let's move on to events

outside our country. more and more often we observe such escalations and outbreaks. if you want to see videos on the map, which are almost the beginning of the third world war every time, well, at least for ukrainians, because we are now very exposed nerves, so to speak yes, this night we were actively monitoring the situation in the balkans, in the previous few days we were monitoring the situation in asia, where nancy pilossi went with the voyage, about this case, we will now talk with our guests artur kharitonov, president of the public organization liberal-democratic league of ukraine, artur, congratulations and glory to ukraine, and with us yaroslav voytko , diplomat, international expert, mr. yaroslav, congratulations, glory to ukraine, glory, good morning, god bless you , nancy pilosi, as if she should have

flown to taiwan like everyone else they thought to themselves, but it is far from a fact that she was going there, really, well, in any case, china was very tense, but we understand that china in the current situation is very often used by russia and russia as well is used by china in order, so to speak, to begin to influence the western world, in particular , the united states of america, and we would like to understand that taiwan is far, china is far, ukraine and russia, here it is, russian aggression is right next to us, but we understand that a big geopolitics, unfortunately, also affects us, mr. voiko, of course because china supported russia , in fact, it can only covertly, not so openly, because it is also wary of american sanctions. but in the case of ivan, russia supported china

unconditionally and the speaker of the president of russia piskov said that the russian federation supports the position of china alone, that is, that it considers taiwan to be a part of the territory of the people 's republic of china . to take the history of melting, then this island belonged to the portuguese and the japanese and to many other invaders and now it is about the fact that she has vacuum cleaners who planned this trip to the far east a long time ago and today she is already meeting with officials in singapore and will visit malaysia, then south korea and japan. she has her own personal accounts, let's say with the

people's republic of china, and in the 91st year, when she was in china on a visit and still with two wheels, she unfurled the flag of the republic of china on uh, the square of darkness where mass shootings of students took place in 1989 and they were crushed by tanks if we remember this video that's why that 's why uh she has her own accounts but now when her visit was announced it was no longer about what she can go to taiwan, but there may be a situation where she will meet with the president and ivaniv there now, the woman is somewhere during a visit, let's say in japan, and it is said that er china is also very zealously watching its side for er this situation and he advocates that the american side

adheres to the position it was officially declared that there is one country and no one recognizes and ivan no one establishes diplomatic relations in taiwan. although, as far as i remember, somewhere in the mid-90s 29 years ago, some 29 countries had even diplomatic relations with a thaw, then they became fewer because these countries that established such relations are afraid of american sanctions and are breaking these relations, now the situation is really tense because taiwan is not such a country as, say, ukraine, if china wants to conquer by military means there is nowhere, let's say, for the taiwanese to run away. this is a small island, 24 million e.e., the population there is true, but let's say that there will be such a population in the large territory of the island, which is why it is said that taiwan will be forced to defend themselves against air defense

with their military naval forces and hope that the americans will help them, there is such an agreement that allows the united states to do this, if yaroslav would like to ask mr. artur how he sees this situation and what is happening in our country in general cooperation with china yes. as far as i understand so far, we do not have an extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador in beijing, well, actually, as far as the taiwanese are concerned, definitely a visit of the axis powers to such a bank is very good if it takes place since here is the latest information that she still plans to visit taipei, the capital of taiwan, and on the other hand, one must understand that taiwan is a self-sufficient democracy, the first democracy, that is, for them, by and large, nothing will change whether she comes or not. i am sure that taiwan is ready for any consequences that may occur, but at the same time, according to my

deep conviction and as my colleagues actually think, they will fool ivan and there is currently no threat of invasion. no one knows exactly how long hmm there will probably be a war , but no one knows when it will be, and you know what the thai deputy says, the truth is known only by ringers, and ukraine taught us to actually understand that a crazy dictator can do anything he wants and he will not think about the consequences we will see what concerns the situation with china, ukraine, well, actually, we do not have an ambassador, and this is by the way. it seems to me a very good sign that this happened under certain dire circumstances. thank you, please elaborate or i can see it here some such sign is not too good, on the contrary, well , i would like to intensify, so to speak, certain

areas of work, well, you understand, what is the point of intensifying what is on russia, because for china, russia itself is already a colony, it is part of the chinese world, and it has already been repeatedly noted by professional experts that when putin went to the bloody olympics in beijing, he successfully negotiated the start of the war in ukraine and received the green light for this from china, which supported russia from the first days, if you followed chinese propaganda, you saw how they expressed aggressive anti-ukrainian theses, and he made it clear that he is not on our side, and his colleague correctly said that the only thing keeping him from fully supporting russia at the moment is the fear of american sanctions. there are many chinese scholars who are trying to spread ukrainian narratives in china, thinking that the truth does not reach china, but they they don't say that chinese propaganda itself is focused

on rebroadcasting russian narratives, and this has been happening for a very long time since the time when china and russia wrote an agreement on the unification of propaganda on heads of education, mr. arthur, it is clear that china is purely russian propaganda and rebroadcasts it to its population for many reasons, but it is actually about the fact that russian propaganda is quite strong and the propaganda and coverage of its position was to invent about strong russian propaganda in there is no free press in china and everything that gets into the chinese garbage can is signed in the propaganda departments of the communist party. well, i don't know. i personally did not live in the soviet union , i was not born there, but people who remember it know. how did propaganda work, it's all about the departments that approve it, and if china lets russian narratives , it means communist party officials - it's all agreed that it's profitable

for them. events in ukraine, they were banned, these channels of the special services of the people's republic of china were closed. that is, these are very negative things and we need to face the truth, you understand, ukraine must show that we see everything that china does and we are not satisfied, there is no need to run around them trying to prove something, if they openly rub their feet with us, you understand, thank you, mr. artur, well, accordingly, i wanted to briefly ask mr. yaroslav. the ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary has the authority to meet at the highest level with chinese leaders. i know those colleagues who worked before and they are very active despite the russian and chinese

communist party propaganda, which shaped the opinions of chinese society and the opinions of the chinese leadership, they reported the position of ukraine, if there is no such person, if she does not meet with chinese parliamentarians, with ministers, and with representatives of the communist party, it is expensive, it is very difficult to count on the fact that someday this position will be accepted by ukrainian, therefore an ambassador is definitely needed and as soon as possible . to the undisputed understanding of this word as we are used to it. you see, and as it was, for example, in the soviet union, this is communism, which nevertheless allows itself trade with the whole world

, an understanding of what it can give the world and what it can be . it can be the level of cooperation , uh, china remains very dependent on economic ties with the united states, well , that is, to say that they are completely isolated like the gdr there, for example, well, we can't either, it means that trying to feel some points of contact is at least possible and make sense arthur, do we close this page for ourselves, do you understand when the chinese state snakes began to work in the occupied territories of ukraine and film mariupol and when they began to actively interview for chinese propaganda the highest level in bushila and other leaders of the dnr i think the page from china should be completely turned over, there is no need to paint illusions about china, you say that this is, uh, some kind of non-communism, but i will say

that it is communism that was reborn in very terrible conditions, very recycling, this is total communism if let's imagine in a terrible dream that the scoop didn't die , this evil machine remained, it would have become like china, it traded, earned money, but built a communist empire inside, which is a hateful person, which leads the genocide of the igorot people, which occupied tibet, destroyed democracy in hong kong and currently invests billions of dollars in order for russia to live on, because do not forget that china remains the main sponsor of russia and china has not broken any real agreement with them, it feeds this economy, an economy that goes to war against our people, that's why you understand playing with the position that china can be directed somewhere. it's just a waste of time. of course, we shouldn't take extremely radical steps at the moment, but we should soberly voice this and say that we are

dissatisfied with the position of china, which publicly speaks about the fact that he supports something there, not in neutrality , but in fact a invests money in companies that have left russia, they actually produce russian specialties or help them with various techniques in the sense of the type of development and the military sphere, because we have at least six chinese firms that have already come under the sanctions of the united states treasury department for, including aid to russia and technology, you understand, and these are very blatant things, nevertheless, this is just one of the latest cases, and we will continue to talk about a project worth 50 billion dollars, which has the goal is to create a plane with a capacity of 280 passengers, and this is a joint project of china and the russian federation since the time of the ussr, a widely physiological russian passenger plane, and now this project is actually on

the verge of collapse because china persistently refuses to use russian technologies in the creation of this liner and i invite western manufacturers and does not want to share profits with the russian federation in the key chinese market, well, at least this is reported by the zamoskél times with a link to the south china morning post, well, it can be seen that not all projects are successfully implemented by them, and together with china after all, he is moderated by his own interests and the understanding that, well, kulibins in the russian federation are definitely not something that should be involved in joint projects, mr. yaroslav, i will be here with you later because now such a situation can happen that the american administration, which has the right and legislative authority to do so, can declare the russian federation and the country a sponsor of terrorism, and then it is about the fact that all

those partners who cooperate with the russian federation can fall under american sanctions now, according to the estimates of yale university , we have not yet heard of major disruptions in the russian economy because of those sanctions, but they are just august, september, the holiday season will pass a period of pressure and these sanctions will be more noticeable because, let's say, the same trade with the united states has fallen by 95% compared to the 21st year, if the chinese understand that they will also be subject to american sanctions cooperation with the russian federation, they will think a lot because, after all, the relations with the united states are for china, the huge american market, they are much more important than it is

already possible, too. i agree with my colleague, they will simply consider russia and its weakening as another one reason to simply turn yaroslav into his cheerful one, a rather symptomatic moment took place, it is a telephone conversation between secretary of state blinkin and lavrov, so this has not happened since the beginning of the war, and we saw how deliciously the secretary of state of the united states did not take a selfie with lavrov. in fact , it was an extremely eloquent moment, it is about a meeting of the g20, so how do you think this negotiating moment will develop now, it is not there at the moment, but there are different signals. so we see that a part of the russian leadership tried to enter into certain negotiations at the same time, literally

, traditionally. the next day they destroyed everything , for example, it is about the shelling of odesa, and we see that it is possible that part of their elites is ready for some talks, and the second part is categorically not ready and maybe not putin is ready, although the smell of their defeat is in the air, then he is definitely not ready, because then he will not look like such a dashing guy who defends his interests. putin's defeat in the war with ukraine, this is his personal defeat, he and you don't want to, he will be the last force of the russian army and the russian economy to throw at this war, and it's really here. that's how you can notice the difference between what is still happening, contacts at the highest level between those the united states and china had a two-hour telephone conversation on july 28 between these

two leaders, and this dialogue is currently absent between russia and the united states, indeed there is a specific example taken by mr. blinken, he wants to negotiate that in exchange for an arms dealer mr. oleksandr buta is serving a 25-year term in an american prison. you can make two americans who are now also stuck in the russian channel, but blinkin could not have this conversation with lavrov and he could send jake sullivan. well, state secrecy is an analogue of the minister of foreign affairs. diplomats should do , let's remember how, in january and february of this year , events took place in two directions, the americans handed us weapons. they knew very well that there would be russian aggression, but the whole world, including

the american administration and european diplomats tried with their last strength diplomatically to solve this situation and not to start this war. thank you, mr. arthur. i am more interested in the ukrainian aspect, well, actually nothing has changed , it is necessary to understand that this is actually a repetition of the same maxims from both biden and zimpin. actually, this conversation was not aimed at ukraine or aimed specifically at taiwan and actually china avoided further provocations because if you carefully look at the statements of chinese state propaganda well, they were as necessary as possible in the direction of american politicians and in general it is too

much reminiscent of russia in all senses a-a actually they agreed on certain points what they reached is currently unknown and in no way. this conversation will not really affect ukraine, except for the fact that china remembers that in which case america is ready to impose sanctions against china, since now in the congress it is very a wonderful initiative regarding the preventive functioning of china, for example, regarding the purchase of russian oil and gas. china is currently the leader in the purchase of natural resources from russia. in fact, the budget of russia depends on china in this sense, and let's not forget that china invests a lot of money. that is , there is a very, very large amount of money in the new gas pipeline and oil production production processes, in particular, in the sphere of the power of siberia two or now they want to take the place of democratic investors who were on sakhalin two

japanese before and of course these moments must be cut off because you understand when the world allows china to buy such a large amount of russian energy resources and from russia's analyzer with money and support the russian economy it is very painful for us, therefore sanctions must be put very clearly before china thank you very much for this the liberal-democratic league of ukraine and yaroslav voytko, diplomat, international expert, were with us in this part of our broadcast, and now we will have news on the espresso tv channel, we will present them in this pori anzhelika sezonenko, we pass on the word to you, a colleague. we invite you to the broadcast. thank you for your work. khrystyna. and auntie, what did the enemy do most of all in kherson oblast and donetsk oblast this day? it was very hot along the entire front line.