therefore, i will say that the world is much less flat than it seems to us, it is much more curved, of course, let's not leave the united states of america victoria sparks, whom you have already mentioned , a congresswoman from indiana, from the state of indiana, a native of ukraine, who came to ukraine a few weeks ago, then returned back wrote a letter to the president of the united states of america, uh, joe biden, in which she accused the entourage of our president of all sinful and unthinking sins , so this lady sports called this week of the secretary general of the united nations, antonio guterres, to immediately introduce military ships into the black sea to ensure the transit of ukrainian grain, is this the opinion of ms. sparst, or does the united states of america think so at the official level that the agreement that began to operate well, it did not begin to operate today, as far as i know the first he also

went to odessa sports that this agreement is too weak, this agreement is, in my opinion, an illusion of an agreement, it is an illusion of an agreement for this simple reason, a hybrid agreement, what can we expect that russia will to comply at any price is not worth it, this is definitely something that must be understood on the shore. near the elevator or near the grain transshipment, so i think that we need to work actively enough on this and understand that we not only send our grain , we have to communicate with african countries, why is it, for example better than the russian lavro, it was not by chance that he flew to africa, and although egypt refused a shipment of only 240,000 tons, it is actually

a small amount, so that the viewers of e-e ukraine in the previous marketing year from 1 from july 21 to june 30, 2002, our country exported more than 40 million tons of grain, that is, this is not a very significant batch, although there is a resonance for the reason that egypt is one of the largest importers of ukrainian grain, but in any case we have to understand that russia is actively countering there, and it doesn't necessarily have to be submarines in the waters of the black sea that can cause hypothetical damage by a hypothetical attack on grain ships. no, this is exactly information policy and a game of anti-western

rhetoric and a game on anti-americanism and a demonstration of what russia will go through, or do you remember we taught your future prime ministers, presidents, ministers there, and you were told that yours helped you in the fight against the west , that is, russia is very skillful in manipulating and hunting me very well various things in order to achieve their political powers. well, really, mr. yevhen. look at this question. i wanted to ask my interlocutors many times, but something escaped me . here we are, there was a fifth package of western anti-russian sanctions, there was no gas embargo, there was a sixth package, there was no gas embargo, the seventh package was not a gas embargo, we demand that europe introduce a gas embargo, or only in this way, it is possible to influence russia and stop the war, well, that

one of the factors by which we could at least hope that we will stop russia, we demand europe somehow there from no one in some eh sorry it's not ethereal but i will say from the mask is looking for some but i have a question for you, we demand from them and why we still have transit, but the answer is simple, but our viewers will not like it, because if we stop the gas transit of the russian-ukrainian territory, then various putin fersteins will make such a fuss that it will be much more difficult for us, believe me, so let russia for now she is playing with the nord stream and speaking she is ready to launch the nord stream-2, she is playing with the nord stream alone, and we are alone. by the way, i honestly

do not know the mechanism. in fact, i don't have any information here, i wasn't interested, i wasn't ready to answer right away, but if we stop gas transit, then we, in addition to the fact that russia will accuse us of not fulfilling its obligations, we will receive from many european countries, only hungary will not be able to tell us anything, because in the autumn of last year, she refused gas transit of our territory, she receives it through a server, but many others, that is, the level of understanding of ukraine can be like the future temperature in european houses, this is true, do not think that the world by its nature is so ukraine- centric and empathy for ukraine has reached everyone by 100 thousand 500%. no, there is no beginning. of course, let’s talk about russia. well, there were

two statements this week. first, i don’t take him seriously . about how the world, like the west, will divide ukraine, there is a large part of the two northern regions, the east and the south and the center goes to russia, the vinnytsia region goes to romania, the west goes to poland, and ukraine is only the kyiv region, that's what dmitry medvedev said, that's what pushylin is, mmm, gauleiter from the dpr went, for some reason, i don't know why, to belarus and in when brest was told that it was time to liberate ukraine and russian cities, he listed the russian cities and attributed something to them, i don’t know why he attributed lutsk . so, we treat these people differently. for example, i

don’t like them very much, but evgeny or so such statements need to be taken seriously now at this moment. well, on february 24, we have a full-scale war with russia going on and statements were sent to the statements of medvedev, the statements of lavrov or someone else, by and large they do not change anything, that is, a week that the goal of the russian federation is to completely destroy ukraine, our goal is absolutely obvious there should be the reverse, we should set the goal of destroying russia, we should think about how to make it explode from the inside , we should think about how not to just fight back , but to give a powerful handshake and, er, so that people understand that medvedev's statements are nothing more than some kind of alcoholic pill, and the spread is just a six-pack brought with him by the press, i think he goes by the name of turchak, who is there, type, who deals with big and big

political devices in the post-soviet space, this is a situation that i would say is nothing strange, and it is largely due to the fact that russia has been saying for almost 160 days that it will defeat ukraine, and maybe on the one hand , but on the other hand, we haven't started anything yet, that is, it's such political schizophrenia. it's just finds manifestations in various things. unfortunately, she found manifestations of the destruction of ukrainian prisoners of war . well, this is an obvious war crime for which i think its organizers and executors should be punished, and here it is one of the elements of

our future vision of justice. and they will be really punished, let's hope that as soon as possible and at the tribunal, wherever this tribunal takes place, they must be present at it and hear their verdict for the crimes they committed in ukraine, mr. yevhen. as always, thank you for your professional answers, i will wait for our next meeting. i hope it will be very soon. well, i will remind our viewers that yevhen magda, the director of the institute of world politics, was in direct contact with me. thank you, mr. yevhen. well, we are moving on. to join is my second guest - this is maksym yakovlev, the head of the international relations department of the national university of kyiv-mohyla academy and the director of the school of political analytics, what is the university? greetings, mr. maksym, yuriy, do you know when you said the second guest sounded like a friend to me, so i was very

happy to be on your air, i haven't seen you for a long time. thank you, you are my personal friend. thank you for joining the air, mr. maksym. i have enough questions for you. well, look, i already talked to mr. yevhen about kosovo. a little bit, we already understood what it was, thank god, it's nothing, it's some kind of bubble that you burst and nothing happened, maybe after a while they will start doing something there in kosovo again , but nevertheless, maxim, we did not recognize kosovo and serbia, we are so tense relationships through such love of serbia can even be said for russia, we do not have any kind of mutual understanding with them, but who do we support in this situation, so tell me, you know a very good question, i am even thinking of writing an article on this matter, well, we are very active now on the topic of e-e security and security formats for ukraine, the school of political analytics, then i

thought about, you know, what we from ukraine and from the ukrainian perspective, without thinking deeply , even at the mass social level, e-e somehow interpret various events on international scales remember, for example, the referendum on the independence of catalonia, like this. well, if you do not immerse the situation , many people immediately frame it as a manifestation of separatism, we are for territorial integrity, accordingly , these catalans are bad who demand more autonomy there or even independence in relation to kosovo, the same applies to these old frames that the kosovars are some separatists who are trying to separate from their state, this also greatly simplifies the discourse and distracts from how serbia itself actually behaves, which is reminiscent of the last survey which were published, what i saw in serbia decreased significantly. less than 50% of those who want the service to join the european union, and kosovo can be checked . of the candidate countries for membership in the european union,

kosovo is just a note that the european union recognizes the desire of the kosovars to join the european union. well, at least this is the story from kosovo. yesterday, the day before yesterday, and yesterday too, it was very popular . students showed me a repost of this request. yes , who are we for taiwan, but for china, we are for china, ivan, it’s true, that is, which side do we take, why is it important, because ukraine is very important in the international arena important as a geopolitical player and as a country to which there is an incredible amount of attention, we must not just be careful, we must be thoughtful in order to understand and take the next step to analyze more deeply the sixth is happening from kos so whose is it, well , the discussion about the original land that must de-nazify like these balkans, how there is one not with ruling the parking lots, this already shows us what is happening there, we need to understand these things clearly and you know yesterday i had a broadcast well , unfortunately, not with you, so there they made a cut on one

channel i read that it is simple on youtube viewers sign and give one was a very simple recipe those who are in favor of democracy, human rights and the development of a normal life, we should support them, i think it is possible to take it for myself. when i paid for us to support normal democratic regimes that are not have some imperial ambitions to de-nazify all their neighbors and at the same time. by the way, i have only one such point: once upon a time, this student was very intelligent, who studied at the straight mughal university of shevo , she knows the albanian language very well. we in ukraine talk about how much albanians are albanians and how much they support ukraine and express sympathy for us and so on, and we really don't know much about albanians in general in some areas, there are different positions regarding ukraine, and this is a big disadvantage for us when we take so, we outline some kind of framework of actions from separatists, and these are for their legal lands, and everything becomes clear to us, this is wrong, we need to be a little more thoughtful in

the analysis of such reasons. thank you for such an explanation quite interesting p maxim tell me please now you have already mentioned taiwan china let's move on to this issue just now smoothly please tell me why the united states of america, well not even the united states of america and representatives of the leadership of the united states the americans are so openly provoking china now. i mean the speaker of the lower houses of the american congress and the house of representatives, nancy pilos, who now went on an asian tour, first she landed in honolulu, then her plane landed, then they said that she flew to singapore, they constantly say that she should fly to taiwan in china sounded the alarm first on the 29th, it seems like on the 30th, military exercises took place there china threatened from the taiwanese e-e who would have sources e-e in the higher circles of the thais says that after all nancy-polots they are waiting there in the evening of the second day. please tell me

why the usa is provoking china like this now. they are very good. it is interesting. yuri, you know, i have to say that against the background of your colleagues who are asking experts about this situation, your colleague was the first to ask a question precisely in terms of provocation yesterday on the air. which i already mentioned today, the periodontist, so i, on the other hand, am not an advertising channel, tell me, there was a question like this, you know, of a closed type, so what happens if the vaccine did not fly to taiwan, what happens in this well, in this confrontation, let it be symbolic the chinese won, who started spraying weapons to show that they are ready to return taiwan to its native land, yes, conditionally yes, if you use the russian narrative about this, and i , then, in response, even as a counterargument, it turns out who won in what, if indeed china was ready to attack taiwan there. it would not be resolved by war and so on, then by refusing to provoke. as you ask the question now, it turns out to be such a diplomatic step in order to soften the situation a little. now look again

at the ukrainian attitude, what is the truth and the day before yesterday when this means not so half-heartedly landed so it’s from i don’t know what’s happening to me some of my friends wrote and even listened to the whole war that it’s starting we’re betting on whether it will fly the next day this informational event was so smoothed out that if it was really yesterday evening which one to catch in the center of kyiv, ask what already the story ended with the rise of china, everyone was confused because we are really here we will receive the full amount of information, it was taken or were going to go to that taiwan so what is the essence of this provocation, what are they ready to ask, he showed everyone because if you look at krok let's go ahead with regard to provocations and so on. the war seems to me to be unprofitable for america and not for china. china is very dissatisfied, what a miracle ukraine is. well, that is, in order to come to ukraine, the wars russia unleashed on russia, china has already started voicing its displeasure in the first month. the plan of trade is complicated by logisticians, comrade, inflation is more expensive, well, literally, the ability of those who could buy china is what spoils chinese business and all these imaginations, i will roughly use such a

metaphor of the war of barbarians, because china historically does he imagine himself as the only civilized country, and everything else, this cook reminds one of the chinese emperor of the british monarch, there was an appeal if you want it for the benefit and we will teach you civilization like that somewhere in the 18th century ago well, this is how they function for america, what is not beneficial that another one a war in which a military confrontation with china is not possible. this is very serious, so america's reputation is really tarnished after the story from afghanistan and not being able to fully defend taiwan and have some conditional case that america has shown this america will have to rethink its role in the international arena, is it really the guarantor of democracy , the protection of smaller countries, and so on, since it is both here and there that both sides bear well , this provocation is not profitable. and now let's take a third step . and what does this mean that none a top american politician, now we will never be able to visit taiwan, well, this is also a difficult question. well, because it turns out that all this is now so undesirable and

toxic for you, conditionally, yes, the territory for a visit, well, it is also very strange, so there is no way out of this situation it will be necessary to look for both sides. well, i hope that they will find it as soon as possible and it will not lead to any aggravation. mr. maksym, let's now go to the visit of the minister of foreign affairs of russia, sergei lavrov, to africa, to several countries in africa, what do you think as an expert. it was a qualitatively successful visit for russia is obvious. is it all the same? no, i want to offer a school of political analysis in africa with my colleagues. we are preparing such an overview of what african analytical centers write about the war in ukraine. we hope that somewhere at the end of next week we will we are publishing it because i am interested in this topic and you know what is being said about until february 24 the professional invasion of some african ana centers - these are the ones that go to the world's top rankings. well, there, for example, some regions criticized ukraine for the fact that we sold weapons to several of participants in local regional conflicts. that is, it is so, so then

the question is now relevant in terms of grain, there is migration, by the way, not so much, but it was written about and it seems to me that an indian analytical center wrote something in the style of look if sunny from ukraine the cavalry will not go, they will sell ours, we will sell more of our african palm. that is, ukraine is interesting in different ways, well, the topic of ukraine affects african countries in different ways . on the other hand, where should russia still fly, so maintain a good attitude towards oneself, show that it is russia that opposes the imperialists in the form of the united states, also brag about this topic. africa alone accepted the material in which i precisely compare the post-generational experience of african countries as a whole as a methodology that can be applied to russia's relations, including to ukraine and its neighbors, so that africans need to explain this unconditionally . it looked yes, where are they looking for

this, well, laughter, you are laughing at young people, indeed, africa is also an important region that needs to understand what ukraine is, what the confrontation with russia is, and some things, by the way, can be compared to how to cook an information strategy for india is being built. some of them are colleagues who regularly comment on something on the air of the indian media. they really remind us that this is a moment when there is a different kind of colonialism of russian imperial ambitions. to the winner there, in the sense that they reminded themselves of a big country, which is russia, which is trying to somehow financially support something there to flirt with african political regimes by various countries, what are they doing? in the international arena to create the impression that russia is a conscious partner with it, you can negotiate with russia, someone is ready to help this time. really condemns russia.

he is in the current format. well, next. what are some micronesian islands there? well, let's see. it's difficult for me, but it's right that you signed a battle with africa. we also need to make efforts so that this region knows more about ukraine and knew more about the truth about this war and this is an important informational work well, now we have a chance not to lose this battle for africa at least well, you know yuriy, it is a difficult question for whom africa is a big truth , father, many regions, but i am glad that there is one graduate of mogilan eh i wrote this dissertation about sub-sykharian africa in particular, yuriy oliynyk, his courses are popular, so, well, this is important. i think it is possible to act on a point-by -point basis. i know that our south african republic has a diplomatic mission to actively oppose the russians . there, this story is so. central africa is also separate, why? i lead what we need, let's be consistent, everyone likes it. yes, when people are like a person who answers questions consistently, as i

mentioned the story with catalonia, here is your question about kosovo, how do we stand there taiwan, china, we need to really dive into the question of analyzing which regions of africa are there, which countries where we have more chances. well, where is it easier for us to start communication , and there to really start fighting this battle? so where is it easier to then try to convince the country that further from us, this is short-term, this is early-term , difficult work, and in response, this is directly. as you ask, is there a chance to win if we start using the available resources, our diplomacy, well done, they are doing it like this, and gradually start with countries where there is plunging into local problems just laugh, there are some africans, we don't know what to do with them. no, these are whole countries with their potential and their problems, and the more they are, well, let's say, the more precise, the more thorough we will be, and we will pay attention respect to delve into the local issues of individual african countries, then we will definitely have a chance to

be a more developed country of ukraine. that is , there will be a chance to really gain support from the international arena. this is good. this is very good . ankara, i will tell our viewers that this is the capital of turkey, information has appeared that the government of this country will again be ready to contribute to the high -level meeting between ukraine and russia. maxim will be like this is always the first question, that is, nothing will happen , and the second question is whether we are ready now for such a meeting, or do we need such a meeting now and why do we need it, absolutely correct, yes, for which i think russia will press for opportunities , it is possible even through the turks the opportunity to press ukraine to meet what they are and for peace so that there is no shelling, so that the port does not come, because this

provocation is on the disk of port. ukrainians are attacking ukraine, let's put pressure on ukraine so that ukraine abandons the counteroffensive or suspends it, then you will have a grain of something like that, maybe let's not forget that in turkey the political cycle of elections yes, erdogan and erdogan will screw up the nuts there, only possible and the classics of the genre that we are watching polina polit- to political science. this is true. this is the pattern on the diagrams. if there is a problem inside the country, we insist more on international politics to show how important turkey is, who can, who is capable of reconciling russia . ukraine acts as a platform for victory, not so, look at how cool the president is, how cool is accepted in our country, well, it's very banal, but it can also be one . well, one of the reasons for the statements. nation, antonio otelich, he didn't

say that, i'll tell you right away, i'll correct it, information appeared in the new york times that general secretary antonio otelich promised russia something in exchange for unblocking the export of ukrainian grain there he promised that russia would also export its grain abroad without any problems, plus he promised that in the future some kind of cancellation is possible, well, relaxation, not cancellation, but at least a relaxation of sanctions. suffers from this and russia still oppresses well, it is possible not only the west, but more there is the country of africa, asia, some russia to the pressure and in general it is the un . it seems to me that a shameful story was actually a tragedy for the people of volyn. so when is the post if not they will really change how many posts about the fact that the first we condemn condemn the last paragraph we call on both sides to comply so that well it is simple even well and beyond the border of good and evil the truth

well, we will wait for the most information p yuri, you should have made such a display at the beginning so we we need to know in more detail that 4g of these promises was promised, that russia wants sanctions to be lifted with it, it was doing business from the south. it is not a secret for anyone. and the fact that the un as a structure, in principle , needs a deep reformation, rethinking in its role, was it a useful organization that warned of the war, yes, but not what is happening now, then you and i did not answer america there, unfortunately, yes, well, thank you, mr. maksym, i am very sorry for the lack of time, because it is interesting to talk with you to finish, but thank you very much for your and for your answers. it was maksym yakovlev, a friend of mine and of my program, the head of the international relations department of the national university of kyiv-mohyla academy and the director of the school of political analytics of the same university. well we talked today, as usual, to great

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