in eastern europe, that is, with its own agenda, with its own policy, with its own interests, if we are ready to say yes to all these answers, and our readiness is determined by the economy and military sphere and technological potential, then accordingly our role will be quite significant, in essence, we will fulfill that what was said there 15-20 years ago and we will become not just a border between europe and asia, we will become its bastion of european values ​​in the east and therefore, in fact, we are in a unique position for the first time during the time of our modern independence, our future almost completely depends on our decisions, now alexander has already quoted cnn information that nancy pilosi, the head of the us house of representatives, is visiting taiwan as part of her tour of asia, even spending the night there, we talked about what kind of northern chinese there did the south china sea enter the avi e-e aircraft carrier group led by the

aircraft carrier ronald reagan and in the spring some aggravation between china and the united states on the background of this visit do you expect any hot aggravation, his transition from the cold phase to the hot one, please well, in fact, until the last, i perceived pilos's statement as more of an informational bluff, as more of an attempt to impose an air elephant on the chinese, that is, a non-existent problem that the americans themselves solved. and allegedly, biden showed such restraint and diplomatic wisdom and in this way, china showed its good intentions, but obviously the very visit to the strip showed that china's reaction was tough enough, china's reaction was too unacceptable for the americans, and that's why they decided go for escalation, what should we expect? i don't think that at this stage the chinese will still decide to go for an ultimate escalation and the chinese will go for a full-fledged escalation of the decision, we

will be dealing with, well, approximately the same as what we were dealing with in the 80s and 90s. mutual mutual play of muscles in the taiwan straits, this is the placement of our own personnel - this is the flights of e-e aviation of individual aviation groups, this is mutual threats. well, in fact, let's not forget where the phrases last chinese warning appeared in our lexicon, respectively, this is the previous chinese it was issued back in the 60s precisely in relation to the presence of american warships in the taiwan strait. i have to remind you that since then, beijing has only issued 900 such warnings officially, that is, in fact, i am waiting for a standard one for taiwan . well, we have to look at it through the eyes of the cold war from the point of view of us in the 2010s. this is a really terrible escalation - it's a big crisis, but from that point of view, it's just another working day. thank you, oleksandr oleksandrev, expert

council of foreign policy ukrainian prizma serhiy vovk is with us director general of the center for transport strategies mr. serhiy we welcome you good evening today the first ship left the port of odesa with ukrainian grain 26,000 tons of corn eh what can we say as of 17:32 in the evening about that what is the success of this operation? how can you call what is happening? well, i think that we will be able to talk about what is a success only when, well, only the first ship reaches the destination, but the route will be rebuilt as a whole and if it is conditionally divided, then for sure. in my opinion , we can talk about several stages. the first stage is really to safely bring out these ships that are currently standing in the black sea sports. these are 17 ships that are located in the port of pivdenny in

the port of odesa against chornomorsk. this is the first task and a significant to a certain extent , all subsequent stages will depend on how it will be implemented. well, we perfectly understand who we are dealing with and understand that very often the agreements signed by russia are, unfortunately, worthless. but nevertheless, in this the case will be decisive. and if we really see that there is no second stage. if so, conditionally, we can say that all the involvement of the fruit is because now in ukrainian ports there are about four million tons of flag grain and innovators another million of that oil, which is a plus extremely important for a-a and the world community. in order to ensure the sustainable export of ukrainian agricultural products, he says he does not talk about other cargoes , such as mash and other derivatives from agricultural production, that is, in order to bring these stocks out, we will need to attract the word, that is to find a fleet in the world and

enter ukrainian ports on commercially accepted terms, of course, as you understand, there is a long queue of shipowners, e.e., to go under payment, which are very often under direct fire. unfortunately, no, but i think that if this first stage is implemented and insurance the premiums will be more or less accepted. well, actually the problem of attracting the raft itself will not be so acute because if you can say there shipowners and traders will be convinced that there can be a safe channel, it can work and it sounds like the ships will be much easier under those conditions . we have them, but it won't work, so now these 16 are the first ship. what was it called? i don't remember. we cited all the regions under the flag, here they are. they were there since february 24 in

ukrainian ports and now they were loaded and it is called as in the zone, they are all happy, of course, they will all leave the conflict zone from odesa, from the black sea, they will swim further into the mediterranean, further, far away from ukraine, and then there will be no people who simply want to swim here, well, you have such a story now i'm talking about the fact that in order to find someone i want to sail here, you need to make sure that they are not without problems. then i can't say that it will be very easy to find those who want to, because, well, they will be more receptive to metal fracts. of course, they will be higher than in the ports of that the most constant or other european ports, the case of russian spartaks came here and it was much more expensive than the judges, samsu came because it

is a de facto warring country. there will be if these are 17 pages, what are i behind them, how did we just involve the school, mr. serhiy, it is expected that on august 3, this is the first cargo will be in istanbul, what will happen next, how will it be distributed with him and now, who is mainly responsible for the safety of this transport that is, the ship left ukraine and ukraine is no longer responsible for its transportation. is this a collective responsibility? well, the responsibility is borne by all parties within the framework of the obligations that they signed according to the zones and uh, here is the responsibility of the ukrainian side. - this is a control, we really obviously carried out this control as the ship will leave the voluntary russian side, but it has obligations, they are obligated and responsible, that is, by obligations, i will remind you that the russians also received significant

concessions under this, so as not to talk, but the opportunity to trade its agricultural products and the opportunity to open its own fertilizers were unlocked. therefore, further on and the responsibility of the pages, first of all , for the russian federation, which is, of course, the main aggressor at the moment in the black sea region, well, after moreover, the role of uh, it will be some kind of problem, if you need to register for the conditional protection of the movement of the armed forces of other countries, then it does not exist, and you need to be conscious about this too.

the connection with you, unfortunately, is not good again. if not, then let's reconnect or not . well, i'm on my way. unfortunately, it's better to be louder, please , well. look, this is the next stage of these negotiations . it is very important. well, it also affects the expansion firstly, the range of products that will be exported, and it is possible to really import them, and secondly, this expansion is possible in terms of quantities of ports that can be used, well, first of all, of course, we are talking about mykolayiv port, which is the second port for the export of agricultural products, of course, if you look at what is happening now in mykolayiv, what terrible shelling about it, well , think about it, for sure now and extremely,

but i think that if it worked this first corridor , we will be able to talk about other types of products, although of course these will be difficult negotiations, this will be work for diplomats, this will be work for the infrastructure of specialists. well, we will let's hope that we will not stop at the ground and it will be a matter of simply blocking the ports, because we can export not only agricultural products, but also a number of other types of products, in particular, iron ore, which today also suffers due to the impossibility of effective export and the increase in costs on logistics, which actually makes ore mining in ukraine unprofitable, mr. serhiy. what are your forecasts for how things will move after the first shipment? what are the main threats to this agreement? listen, i really held back. forecasts because we understand who we are

dealing with and predict people who are already outside the behavior of the russian side, which has been irrational several times. we will see not the first ship, we will see that the ukrainian side has done everything that depends on it, the international coordination center has become operational, which will actually regulate the activities of this grain corridor. that is, we are in this situation demonstrated to the whole world our willingness and our willingness to be constructive and work to ensure global food security and unlock our own economy. i hope that we are not like that, we will behave adequately and responsibly, and in the direction of sergey, what about our alternative strategies transport, they are currently being developed, we are working on them. they

work, uh, this is also in the western program-crossings and danube ports, but their capacities are definitely not enough to carry out effective export e-e even from germany, speaking of other types of products, that is, these are relatively small channels, well, in total, there are probably around 4-5 million e-e, that ton can even be . and this is how much the ports can potentially export, that is, only even with a large effect in one month, that is, without unblocking the ports, all other export channels definitely need to be developed, but they will not give a short-term effect and carry out an effective act well, unfortunately, we won't be able to because even their logistical capacity is not enough to completely take everything out and start everything, all

of the sms really applies in particular to thermal coal, the problem of which to confront is extremely acute. i think already in the near future, that is, theoretically, coal can be imported, and even with the current state of logistics routes, well, you understand, this is politics - this is economic policy, of course, russia is binding us, it will tear up this energy map, and for sure it will not to agree to the fact that ukraine should look for alternative options, but listen, well, it is also suffering, and as the experience of the same grain corridor has shown, despite the fact that, let's say, exert pressure through international organizations, well, at least on paper, on which results we have. will it be real, we will see, of course, russia will put the wheels in the wheels, you understand, and these will be very difficult negotiations in what concerns the

provision of energy security. of transport strategies was our guest and we are moving on. vadym chernysh should be the next minister of ukraine for issues of temporarily occupied territories and internally displaced persons, so far the new kremlin. in the presidential administration there, too, he has prepared new methods for pro-government media and politicians. well, there it is a normal practice, they write there they decide what to say to whom in one place and there they recommend drawing parallels between the war in ukraine and attention to the baptism of russia and the battle of the neva, but it is not just the baptism of russia that does not let them go they constantly turn to him, they appeal in the preamble of the latest manual, it is said that baptism became the basis of strengthening and unity of the russian state for hundreds of years to come. well, just baptism was more than 1,000 years ago, and the russian state did not exist then, how can this become

the basis of strengthening representatives of all the peoples of russia have rallied again. they write in their manuals in confrontation with the atheists, the atheists are us. the document states that the baptism of russia, the war in ukraine lays the state foundations of the country, and also the foundations of russia's development for a century. going forward, russia has again become capable of fulfilling its mission to protect the oppressed. it is indicated in the text that one of the goals of the so-called special operation is the fight against atheists, and the kremlin proposes to call the ukrainian military as such atheists. make sacrifices and commit ritual murders and many, in particular, nazis, open satanists and followers of man- hating cults, and even more parallels there are analogies of the battle of znevsky, at first the authors of the documents explain that the collective west tried to split russia against it for many centuries and it is stated in the manual all the attacks of the west ended the

same society unites around the national leader and demonstrating courage and heroism on the battlefield repels the invaders kremlin emphasizes recommend emphasizing that that this allegedly happened and after the victory in the battle of nevsky and after the start of the war in ukraine, vadym chernysh knew that the minister of temporary affairs of ukraine of the occupied territories of internally displaced persons, we welcome you, mr. vadim, i congratulate you, perhaps you have already read the new russian manual, which concerns me, i wonder what the target audience of all this is, for whom this information is intended, mr. volodymyrets, it seems to me that it is intended for those, you know, as in soviet times do you remember there were propagandist lecturers who carried it near the spirit from top to bottom. it seems to me that it is designed precisely for those who will carry it further there in private conversations or in some speeches there

in the regional there are some er studios there and so on. it seems to me that there is no one to count on there anymore, that is, you know, putin’s article was studied there, then it was not much to study, and there are a few program statements, and here you are like, how can your er behave who can tell you something against it and you can answer and compare and so on well, i just don't see any sense in it anymore but it seems to me that this is the closest application that they could put there , taking into account their approaches, mr. vadim, what is the situation now in the temporarily occupied territories, i just read one piece of information today. maybe i'm wrong, now they'll correct me, there is one working ukrainian bank privatbank left in the temporarily occupied berdyansk. the city council of berdyansk today, as well as in all the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine, has stopped working. branch of a-bank, i.e., and

a-bank worked in berdyansk until yesterday, there is one working ukrainian bank left in buryansk, privatbank, what does the city council have to do with everyone and congratulated, this is a normal practice, when russians work in the occupied territories, ukrainian banks are doing some business there, some money is probably being driven there. i don’t know if they are driving or not. well, it’s just that we often compare there with the second world, well, it’s strange in the times of the second world war deutsche band worked, for example, on the territory somewhere in vienna after vienna was captured by the soviet authorities, and how you feel about such things is very strange , first of all, if the bank is located there, the territory is controlled by the occupying by the authorities, it is no longer possible, no one can guarantee that there is no access to accounts that have been pressed for transfer in favor of the occupation administration , permits for payments to citizens and so on.

well, it seems to me that we should take the example of the 14-15th years, when the operation of banks was prohibited on temporarily occupied territories that were looted were constantly taken away and so on, but there we have information, for example, and i think that journalists know about it, that in the occupied territories, the collaborators there are, for example, rural village or city mayors or their deputies use these banking institutions in order to put pressure on pro-ukrainian citizens, for example. they have access to accounts or have the ability to limit transfers and say that if you do not go to school on a conditional basis and conduct classes on russian textbooks we will give you the ukrainian salary as ukraine recalculates , we will suspend it, you will leave, you will leave, we will continue it there and so on .

what does he do there? no, it is not clear. it is the absence or, er, it is not the work of such a branch. it absolutely does not affect the ability of the government to transfer funds to those to whom it should be transferred to the cards . it seems to me that there is a big threat of access to the funds of the control of the occupying power, and therefore you are similar to what i am talking about, and what about the payments from the ukrainian state to the temporarily occupied numbers, a lot of businessmen, both ukrainian and russian, are you can see in public in chat rooms that use extortion rates for exchange a-a but the black market is working now, the hryvnia is closed in those regions and in those in circulation, that is, it has a certain deficit, and the occupation administrations at the same time, um, understanding that there is such a deficit, use it for the gradual replacement of the hryvnia by the russian

ruble and uh, there are two points: firstly, when there is not enough hryvnia, it is replaced by the ruble or other currencies , the ruble is mainly recommended by the occupation administration, so to speak, with an example in mind or even with shots and uh-uh, they want the currency period to be first, and then a complete transition to the ruble, which makes it possible to control all the so-called public servants or other types of force , such as local collaborators of the security forces. well, of course, the rest of the people will also be forced to redraw the price tags... it's in rubles, so there's a limit... now how do they transfer money to cards, as it was in the donetsk and luhansk regions. similarly, in the south, you can now transfer money to cards, but a person can't use it because... while in the south, e-terminals are working and

the possibility of computer support elsewhere e-e to pay with cards, but the occupiers are gradually limiting this possibility to the action of converting the e-e black market to e-e rubles in some e-e in some settlements to 30%, it is the possibility of the so-called cashing in. yes, and also the extortion rate is set when exchanging the ukrainian hryvnia for the russian ruble. i am not talking about other currencies , that is, in general, there is a problem for ukraine here, because where is the disintegration of parts of ukraine taking place and due to the attachment to the ruble and separation from the hryvnia, this is one of the ways that russia has always followed. and not only in our country, but also in other territories where it tried to occupy, therefore, of course, there are possible mechanisms for the

use of mobile operators, which russia also wants to to make their applications in various relaxations on the part of the national bank and the ministry relevant for the calculations of entrepreneurs and citizens of the occupied territories if they make hryvnias should in my opinion be developed in detail and brought to the citizens, there cannot be one regime on controlled in uncontrolled ukraine, and i will remind you that the constitution states that the only currency we have on the territory of ukraine is the hryvnia. and if you are a state , it does nothing to ensure at least minimal electronic circulation. of course, this leads to faster disintegration of the occupied territories, a break in ties controlled by the government, and instead of the ukrainian banking system, and who goes there, which banks have read that it is such a bank that previously worked on the territory of ordlo, and there are banks that are associated with the so-called domestic russian offshore is south ossetia, that is, these banks are criminal banks

where, in principle, funds are laundered by russian businessmen, criminal businessmen and those close to the main administration, well, the so -called intelligence administration and other structures that rob the actually occupied territories , that is these banks launder funds not only here, almost no, not earned, not only in ukraine, but from smuggling, e.e., starting from transnistria to other territories of abkhazia, there and so on. and here are these banks have now opened their branches and they are also being promoted by the leader of the militants, the head of the occupation administration in shilin, he travels, he takes with him the so-called russians, russian government officials, by the way, this is nonsense few people pay attention to this. imagine the occupied territories of the south, including the

east. we are somehow used to the arrival of the current ministers of the russian federation, deputy ministers, various experts, bankers, nuclear scientists, and so on , and they are completely trying to switch . all the entire circulation, including the banking and financial and banking system . by banks. by the way, most of them are mostly under sanctions and they work in crimea, and putin said at a meeting with us on the broadcast, well, you are already afraid of the mother who is transferring them en masse and transferring them to the region, in addition to the representatives the administration of the occupation authorities received a task from their moscow curators to create 20 election commissions under the leadership of local collaborators. the composition must be

approved by august 1, but we had input with our experts from kherson. they said that people go to these commissions too much and if they are created by commissions then it will be only in kherson, in kakhovka, maybe in henichesk, but no rural region will be covered by these commissions. your information. how is the preparation for this so-called referendum going ? first of all, you need to look at the situation a little wider, they recently brought and appointed a so-called government. well, for example, in kherson and zaporizhzhia, the government was headed by a certain eliseyev - it's official. well, you can look at his biography, but he is still in the service of er, the fsb is the person of the head of the fsb of crimea, they have been going through life together for some time and they are not there to deal with the government or economic affairs in order to suppress

resistance and, so to speak, to bring order to the occupation on the territory. there is also a whole low fsb officers, who are currently working on the establishment of e-e data of citizens, we see cases where even just passports are photographed at roadblocks when crossing various roadblocks, they take the passport, and they do not ask for a driver's license, but only passports are photographed, they take data from the voter register from hospitals, passport data everyone is interested , well, this is for falsification . with russia, at least somehow record not a single fact, not a single document, not a single one. i don’t know there, just a hint, at least a fabricated fact

that kherson wants to be with russia, there is no other than lavrov’s statements and a couple of turks and a couple of russians that is, they need at least something because how it will be done for them now is a secondary issue in my opinion. and indeed, the commission will not be able to be created as they should work, but this is not a concern now, it is more a political task than a real reference between another deputy of this eliseeva serhiy became our people's deputy oleksiy kovalev well, the collaborator is the one who betrayed ukraine and tell me if russia is really going to annex all of the kherson and zaporizhia regions and the so-called accession to the russian federation as a new or old entity will somehow change the geopolitical situation and the attitude of the russian federation to its foreign policy in the world will only lead to the strengthening of sanctions

. russia, in short, is trying to add some problems all the time so that we forget about the previous ones, that is, about crimea, for example, by trading there with these new opportunities to seize something, take hostages, and then sell out mr. vadym and vadym chernysh exmich, russian troops are preparing to advance on kharkiv region and storm the regional where is kharkiv located in the center? and why will russian forces block the troops in the south of ukraine? the first ship with ukrainian food left the ode