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i.e., the attack of victoria, which is the most resistant to russian propaganda today, the majority does not believe what russia says really, but it is done on the union, this is another question, people are already beginning to understand the chechens because of their greatness, they do not believe the ingush in their majority, they do not believe in dagestan, in their majority, they do not believe, because they see what they say and see what they show the same telegram channel what we are talking about with them, it is necessary to eat instead of work, and in order to somehow catch up with them, it is necessary to give at least chechnya independence today. this draft bill is lying on the floor somewhere about the cutting of the ichke, and for some reason no one will consider it, but today it is a vital necessity for the very none of the ukrainians
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today in russia is able to pull over a part of the russian army comic of north caucasus and in particular the chechens, but for some reason they do not recognize chechnya today and do not help ukraine in any way to free it from the russian agressii i do not understand why this is about thank you islam islam eh belakiev, the press secretary of the chechen battalion named after sheikh mansur was on our air and this is a very serious problem where there is a lack of work and the country also does not recognize the official authorities have not yet recognized not only the chechen republic of ichkeria but kosovo was not recognized even though most of the countries of the european union, the united states officially recognized this country and have done so for a long time, so we obviously need to work on this. but regarding russian propaganda, we have a special expert in she and olga are too lazy to tell us about the chronicles of the
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information war. olya, we congratulate you. i congratulate anna yehor. let's try to figure out what happened last week. somehow there were a lot of psychological operations and the videos that appeared were so terrible and this one was absolutely well, just beyond all limits of shelling or i don't know there was an explosion in a deer pen that happened and where our people died prisoners scattered mines in donetsk, that is, a lot of things happened. well, it ended with new threats, in fact, which had already come from putin
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personally. in the next month, with this formidable weapon on board, the frigate admiral horshkov will be put on combat duty in the district deployment of a ship equipped with hypersonic by cruise missiles, zircon will be selected based on the
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interests of the security of russia. this is happening because actually it is not possible to advance it there somehow strategically , to gain a strategic victory in the war with ukraine , and all the ways to intimidate the ukrainians somehow do not work very well, which is what the russians are actually talking about they also constantly say that let's listen, why, for example, ukrainians don't surrender , they don't run away from the position because there is a hail there because there are three moments, the first moment is if they thought they got there for 15-20 years, the second moment what's more 4 - this is from the battalion commander and above he has the right to shoot on the spot without trial and the consequence of the third moment is that the family immediately falls into depression, the defeat breaks into all the rest and the four already this is what the squad played, make news, take it
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dear zavestitel of the representative of the committee, where do they get this news, why do they broadcast it, this frank sword, let's talk with dmytro zolotukhin - this is a media expert who worked for several years as the deputy minister of information policy of ukraine , e. thank you for being with us, well, actually, last week, what was it, everyone discussed it, it means that it is in general, these are interconnected operations, starting from the video and ending with the drone, which as a result is there flew from somewhere in simferopol to sevastopol , i.e. well, i start all conversations in pairs from the position of using the term ipso, or
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informational and psychological special operations, and i believe that it is in vain that we have already been introducing a new term into our use for the past three months. for seven years, we have been engaged in combating disinformation in quotation marks. we invented disinformation in 2014. now the situation has changed. the military, the main directorate of intelligence and the special operations forces operate with this term, at the same time as special services, for example, operate with the term special information operations. i think it is important. it is important to tell the audience to the listeners so that they do not get lost, so you need to remember it, because it is a lie and there are lies, the only thing is that these lies are now being used more subtly, more subtly, because you are really right that
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a lot of things are not working out on the russian side, a lot of things did not happen as expected because they absolutely they misunderstand the reality that is happening around them, they begin to misunderstand. from the fact that putin was really convinced, well, someone from his entourage convinced him that the special operation would be quick and successful. it was also a lie, and now these people are trying to dance and show putin what in fact, they are still capable of something, and for this they organize really special events, and these special events are aimed at achieving political interests, i think that in putin's entourage there is at least one integral group of people, one political entity that we can
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single out, the interest of this entity is the continuation of the hot phase of the war beyond all possibilities, that is, at any cost, to continue to prevent the war from being transferred to the diplomatic plane, to prevent sitting down the negotiating table to somehow not give way, nevertheless to fix and stabilize this process. i believe that these people include serhiy shoyguk directly, serhiy kiriyenko, the first deputy head of the administration of the president of russia, and andriy turchak, who seems to be the secretary of the united russia party, the ruling party in russia, and ramzan kadyrov can also be included there. although he is mostly just a person who understands that without these destabilizing factors, no one needs him , that is, how to govern, he is absolutely useless and his only role is to manage
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an army of absolutely uh, well, actually blindly loyal uh thugs who are in moscow and are a personally loyal guard, including to putin, in case any of the uh russian politicians there will still be a desire to make some forceful moves regarding the destabilization of the situation in moscow itself and take putin's part of the power there or somehow move him. thus, kadyrov kiriyenko shoigu turchak and a number of other politicians, and for them it is absolutely necessary to continue the war for at any price, if the war is transferred to the diplomatic space, questions will arise as to where the trillions of rubles were distributed, which, in the budget of russia, should have
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been directed to the russian army, and instead they were stolen, where were they distributed, besides, it is necessary ask that leather guy where the rest of the money that was reserved for him for the actual conduct of internal politics and the holding of elections in the territory of the russian federation went, all this is just a thief on a large, very large scale, as long as these people are engaged in war, they are untouchables, so he cannot be moved anywhere that he is the chief flood. as soon as he ceases to be the chief of the war, papets will immediately appear in which it is written how much he stole and that is why such extremes are happening, atrocities are happening which uh are done absolutely deliberately and absolutely uh intentionally, such as the attack on odesa at the odesa sea port. a few hours after the signing of the uh agreements on the export of
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ukrainian grain, this spectacle of an attack on a deer park is staged, the brutal murder of uh ukrainian prisoners takes place and the distribution of the video is absolutely brutal, well, we must not forget that it is not all made up exclusively of such conspiracy theories. i am sure that there are a huge number of people in russia who watch and distribute such a video about the castration of a military because they are simply sick people and they have an erection when they see such atrocities. when they are told about such atrocities. these are absolutely absolutely declassified beings that we are not human beings and they really spread all this uh and tell about it and so on but with considering which telegram channels, for example, which are directly related to the special services, in particular, to the game
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of the ministry of defense of russia, it is possible to say that this is being done on purpose and it is being done deliberately in a manipulative way precisely in order to encourage ukrainians to put pressure on the ukrainian authorities, but in no way in this case, don't sit down to negotiate with those animals, because how can you sit down to negotiate with absolutely inhuman beings who, er, actually have nothing to do with humanity - not that humanism is simply with people as a type of western politicians, because on in the west, this kind of pressure regarding pushing ukraine to the so-called minsk 3, i.e. again, negotiations that should not end in a certain compromise with the russian side, in particular, our favorite in quotes, is not lacharov, who is an expert
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rand synctenko of the american institute constantly writes about this, and several other regular contributors of experts write that well, we can't defeat russia. actually, for me, this fits into a single picture , that is, there is a part of people who are pushing the world, it is not necessary actually. there is no need to fight with russia, it is necessary to negotiate with it and at the same time sacrifice ukrainian interests, and on the other hand, a galaxy of politicians russians who instigate and carry out these monstrous things in order to prevent the protection of ukraine, after all, volunteered for negotiations, because as soon as i emphasize once again, as soon as the diplomatic process begins, questions will immediately appear both to shoigu and to everyone the people that i said are gro- gde деньги zim where is the money? where was the money
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shared and why did 40,000 e-e russian soldiers have to pay e-e the price with their lives for a whole military failures in general hmm if we are talking about negotiations e-e, well, with from the point of view of ukraine or is it necessary? what kind of negotiations are we having because, well, you know, there is a contradiction here. well, they are there, the war party in russia does not want negotiations and they are pushing this whole story. and from the point of view of ukraine, what can there be negotiations about? time to discuss this issue because it is very deep and lasted. in short, all of this still boils down to the formula that negotiations are necessary so that people do not die, we have an alternative or really a-a hm to put all the bet on force
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confrontation and until there will be a forceful opposition to the soul and we will lay the body. there is no doubt, but if there is an opportunity to avoid er laying down the lives of a huge number of absolutely worthy people, then i would work on er thinking how to avoid these deaths. - because to avoid uh, you assume that there are some options, for example, uh, uh, just give up the currently occupied territories, well, it is clear to you what there can be negotiations about, to fix the line that is all, well , objectively, just fix the line demarcation as it is now, who needs it? without a doubt, they will say that let's fix what is now. without a doubt, no one
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will agree to these conditions, but here is the situation with a grain of salt, it objectively shows what is needed. so that the state, the state, the government of ukraine must have a political maneuver because there is no money to take from there, there is no money in the country that could cover this deficit and now september will come, then the heating season will come and uh, again after a while time increases, the number of all these disputes will increase in us, holivars, who did who was responsible for the fact that naftogaz is falling apart in us, destabilization will settle in the country, and in the end we will still come to the same decision, only in a weaker state, what do you think our state is strong enough to start such negotiations on a part of the territory. well, i don't know.
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i 'm not a ukrainian politician. in the kherson direction in the izyum direction i'm not a military expert, so i can't answer your question, but look, but you can answer the question, let's talk a little about what we were going to ... there was a blow, well, everyone understands that this is all done for some purpose, that is, when such a thing is done. well, let's say a psychological operation, yes , an information-psychological operation . in general, what actions, that is, what did they want to cause? i think they wanted to cause an emotional state that would result
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in uncontrolled actions, including violence against russian prisoners, which could encourage the russian side to mobilize more actively, to say well, you see, this means that our prisoners are being insulted. that's why we all need to get together sharply and go fight for ukraine, that is, to provoke a reaction in order to achieve our political motives on the other hand , as i already said, achieving the result of what to continue the war at any cost because z z ee say yes we are animals we are there who are they there asians that is, we are animals with us there is no need to sit down at the negotiating table we will do whatever we want there ah very interesting it’s not the first time, such a demonstration and such actual incitement of this
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brutality, but well, the age-old video, when they used a sledgehammer to smash the limbs of some syrian soldier captured there by the wagnerites, and other facts, that is, people who are all partly the result of this operation you are not aware and the question is not whether they achieve the operation they achieve control over their military , that is, on the one hand, these are people who, i emphasize once again , are unhealthy, they are mentally ill, and the fact that they are shown that you can do anything you want, you can kill, slaughter, rape, this is the motivation to join the russian army, on the other hand, for another category of potential uh, potential servicemen uh, they say, well, look , everyone is doing content a and from ukraine, and from the
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ukrainian side, they are also committing atrocities against russian prisoners in order to, well, actually, too is done in order to cause a symmetrical reaction, the symmetrical reaction will be that we also have to grab someone, cut off someone's balls, that well, too, tooth for tooth, for now, that's an old human principle, if we make a sound, we always showed eyes, they'll say, well, now we have to eh to inform, we must collect means to mobilize people and send them to ukraine so that they also kill everyone there. that is why these things. they, like everything that russia does , are aimed at the internal audience. mostly in order to support this flywheel , well, actually, of course, propaganda propaganda, the whole of russia is russian, it is being built for congresses, too, this is exactly what happened from the time of the crucified boy, look there, i am crucifying children, we have to go, it
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means they are killing fascists and so on and so on now a symmetrical reaction is expected from ukraine well, actually, there are people who know about this, for example , konstantin ulyanov or valli khan, he is also the author of the book armored mind, which i recommend to everyone to google, buy and read, he is one of us now he is at the front, he wrote a very good post about the fact that symmetric answers are required for this operation to become students, so that it is not successful, you need to constantly turn off emotions, turn off an absolutely emotional emotional approach to understanding what is happening and uh count count count that is to calculate what plans against us are being implemented and what should be done or better what should not be done in order for these plans not to be realized so that
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they do not reach there well uh it seems to me that for example, this strike or the explosion in the deer pen, which was arranged, also has some internal political weight, because it seems to me that there was an attempt, you know, to organize some kind of internal riots. well, in principle, even i have such a video, which is about zelensky, which they immediately started sending this message as well, and i saw that, in principle, it even went on our social networks a little bit, so i want us to watch it now, if possible, this one about zelensky, go back a few years ago will you remember that beletsky and the azov people openly threatened zelensky, and zelensky is a vengeful person who does not forgive or forget anything in anyone, and when he had
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the opportunity to kill, he would take revenge and he did it because when we were talking here about what he said the head of the azov press service said that this is what the content was ordered by arestovych, by the way, immediately after these, he openly flew there and flew. of the ilovai cauldron, how was it, the ilovai cauldron for poroshenko, when all the anger was directed not at the russians, as a result, at their own government, but here , too, in my opinion, it was exactly the same well, it was very active. it has gone far and in general well, as far as it makes sense there, from my point of view, work in the direction does not stop for a day, that is, there are always some vulnerabilities that we are cracks in ukrainian society, if
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someone likes something, someone does not like it these opportunities are used in order to stir up these conflicts no further, that is, the conflict is, well, such a contemplative one between the bielecki arrestees, which, in my opinion, cannot be extrapolated to the conflict between the azov office and zelensky, and it is used in order to again how to say yes, zelenskyi means he wanted to inform them and thus told them to liquidate them there or remove them from the road. well, this problem also applies, in my subjective opinion, to the first lady of elena zelenskyi, the first lady, actually, when he was elected, and because of his inexperience, in my opinion, he made it clear to everyone that his wife and his family are a super value for him, and everyone thought that
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this was actually his political advantage that he cares so much about the family and he thought so, but actually the special services saw an opportunity in this if they were to conditionally wet the first lady, then zelensky would be offended by someone for this. where some content about the first one appears lady, of course there are people everywhere who really don't like this, they absolutely openly and unabashedly criticize the president and the first lady, and this is not a special operation. but i believe that such things are used as vulnerabilities in order to deepen these divisions. that is, there where there were, for example, 100 posts criticizing the e-e photoset and hundreds of posts supporting the photoset, a thousand
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or 10,000 posts and comments appear that deepen both sides and thus direct ukrainian spears not against russia but against one one well, some kind of us presidential election in the 16th year and during brexit, they really, really, there are different political views, but they took it all to the extreme and there and there they very actively interfered. in this regard, yes, absolutely rightly so any disorder between ukrainians, any discussion between ukrainians that goes into the mode of such a lite conflict, it will be used to deepen it and transfer it into the mode of a heated conflict when people there are spewing saliva on social networks, beating each other up they begin to move there to personalities, to some er, i don’t know, bodily or physical defects of a person or vice versa, advantages and so on and so on, and
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unfortunately we still don’t have the capabilities to prove it, that is, to do research and really explain what this really is it's not a real situation, it's unreal children, it's part of a botnet, part of it is paid for by some er speakers in order to show that these discussions go beyond the limits of naturalness, that is, there really are natural discussions, someone likes the first lady, someone doesn't i like it, it’s normal. this is the democratic situation in society, but when it crosses the line, and in relation to this conflict, as we started with azov, that is, it is alleged that there are some conflicts between azot and zelenskyi. zelenskyi wanted to kill azov citizens who are prisoners of side, and this plays into the hands of the victory
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of russia, well, actually, we don’t have so little time, you know, returning to your opinion regarding the negotiations, the termination of the hot phase, some fixing of the lines, er, that’s all we have now we are watching and the attempt to split the society, it can be stopped because the degree of hatred in russian tv is so great and the eyes of the ability to do all this are so strong that i am not sure that the transfer of a hot conflict to a less hot one will ultimately benefit ukrainian society and somehow he will stop all these things in general, well, come on . it was dmytro zolotukhin. thank you very much. the institute is the founder of the institute of the post-information society. these are not easy for us. i would say the issues before us are not easy because of the challenges and we are constantly under pressure. but nevertheless
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