well, it means that this person should not be in a hurry to give it away, it means that you can think of how to use him in another way, therefore, there are two big topics, one is the publicity of the topic and the protection of the rights of ukrainian defenders in russia in general, and the second, in fact , is the illumination of the personal, even more so of personal data and unfortunately , there is a lot of speculation around this. after the terrorist attack in volyn, russia, we all faced the fact that mass disauthorization of the organization of the institution, anonymous sources tried to reach out to the families of our defenders in order to collect personal data of both their and their families and definitely this is something that can significantly harm our captives and brothers who are in captivity, as well as their families in ukraine, so it is necessary to be extremely careful with these things, although this does not mean that society should not to the whole world to carry out about the

importance of the topic of protecting the rights of ukrainian defenders who are illegally in russian captivity, not the personal data of each of them or any part of a the general figure because for example, the leader of the dpr group, denis pushylin, and well, literally today, he declared that only on the territory of the so-called dpr, more than 3.5 thousand ukrainians are prisoners of war, moreover, he threatens with courts, and they say, well, with so-called courts , and they say, if in the imagination of this so-called court, these people they will be guilty there. then they will not go to the exchange. these are political statements. well, actually , it is not worth commenting on the statements of the leader of an unrecognized republic. but if we are talking about court cases and court verdicts, then these are processes. we perfectly understand that ukrainians they exchange and return their own, including the russian aggressor, who is going to exchange ukrainians who

are in different legal statuses, both on trial and without trial, so when we talk about legal proceedings from the bloc of occupiers, we are mostly talking about the informational component, but by no means illegal, and even more so not about tuskhodova, which directly affects the course of the negotiations - the negotiation process on the exchange of our prisoners home . and they, in their statements, are usually even more radical and, well, crazy, you can call these statements - this is a direct psychological operation against ukrainian society, as well as pressure on the families of ukrainian prisoners, and we understand this very well. in ukraine, an

authorized representative works effectively on the issue of prisoners of war , missing persons, e-e, lekotenko, his office, his team, which is actively working on the return of the bodies from ukraine of the fallen ukrainian defenders and the search for the body, if we are talking specifically about the fawn. as soon as information appeared about this terrible crime, the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war has submitted the necessary requests to russia regarding the return regarding the publication of the lists e firstly e and the transfer of the lists of the dead ukrainian defenders of the wounded ukrainian defenders and regarding the transfer of the bodies today the russians have not yet handed over to ukraine the confirmed lists published in the e in the internet space, unilaterally, the lists cannot be considered confirmed and verified, and we have examples when, for example , fighters in the list of wounded are considered to have been wounded

e being in captivity before the incident in the deer park and they were not supposed to be there at all because they were supposed to be in hospitals and it was officially recorded. how about delaying the time, because the investigation in the russian federation, well, the concept itself is very conditional . the bodies of ukrainian defenders e-e to ukraine thank you for joining the broadcast andriy yusov, representative of the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war well, we are also joined by oleksandr matviychuk, head of the center for civil liberties, my greetings to you, can you hear us? good evening. yes, you know yesterday in the sister of a prisoner of war was on our air and she told

the defender of mariupol and she said that the relatives of the prisoners are dissatisfied with the way the un and the international committee of the red cross work like them are dealing with the issue of ukrainian prisoners and will demand the resignation of the head of the red cross. tell me , please. and what will this actually give? well, who, if not the red cross and the un, who took responsibility for preserving the vital health of the ukrainian military, who now can guarantee it for the future and in particular even after the return of the bodies, we found ourselves in a situation where the entire international un system cannot give a guarantee to save at least one person from captivity. shelling, and then your colleague ms. vira, a journalist of radio liberty, was killed on the very day when the un secretary general was in kyiv, they can

not protect and even give security guarantees to their secretary general during his visit , the situation we found ourselves in is the destruction of the international peace system and security, and that is why russia simply blatantly ignores all the decisions of international organizations and the requirements of international humanitarian law. well, it turns out that ukraine probably had no choice then. these are the only organizations that they gave at least some guarantees for the future, even uh, they should not be trusted. i understood correctly, no, i did not mean this, i meant that we should understand these barriers that we faced, there is no international committee of the red cross i have no authority over this action. i have complaints about the work of these organizations, but they are purely in other matters, for example, because of how they have built work with various prisoners of war and civilian hostages. i work in their hotlines,

that is, there are some such practical things that can be to improve what is in their mandates, which they can really change, but to influence the russian federation, unfortunately, they are now uh, although this does not mean that we as a country should not demand this from them. by the way, relatives of prisoners of war. they also talked about what even before the attack on the deer farm, they talked about the fact that red cross workers were not allowed to visit their relatives, that is, they did not keep in touch with them, i can not say about these specific people, in general , the international committee of the red cross works confidential. i am very interested in whether they were allowed to make an appointment with someone. as far as i know, again , from different sources, they had access to someone. it is not a fact that it was someone. it was olenivka, because they did not even name the place, but this is not the access that, according the mandate of the international committee of the

red cross should be presented by the russian side. well, it is obvious that with the results of this visit, even if the visit took place using the principle of confidentiality, which is the basis of this organization, we they won't say anything, oleksandr, please tell me, representatives of ukraine , mr. yusov was in front of you just now. he said that ukraine still wants to receive lists from russia of these dead and wounded ukrainian prisoners of war, but not receives officially the ministry of defense of russia reported that they say well, we are open and officially we invite the un and the red cross to the deer park, come and see, but in fact these organizations do not get access to these places in the deer park where the attack took place, what can they do next to develop in general the events that exist scenarios by the un member countries should demand this access

should put pressure on the leadership of the un so that it appeals to the russian federation and ensure this access the international committee of the red issued a statement that they were not allowed it was very succinct statement because this is not the organization that makes any public harsh statements and because it is necessary to get them admitted to the wounded and mine and representatives of the un to the place where this crime was committed by pressure, thank you very much joined the broadcast of oleksandr matviychuk, the head of the center for civil liberties was on the radio freedom of georgia did not exist, and kazakhstan was an artificially created state, deputy chairman of the security council of russia dmytro medveev stated this, the relevant post appeared on his vkontakte page last night, the publication actually lasted 10 minutes after which

was deleted, but the boxes are burning like this, in medvedev's post it was about what i am quoting after the liberation of kyiv and all the territories of little russia from the nazis, russia will become united again, he writes we will go on the next campaign to restore the borders of our motherland, which, as you know, do not end anywhere. in the publication, it is also said that in 1801 , such a country as georgia did not exist and it appeared only within the borders of the russian empire. there are also several statements and words about kazakhstan . this is an artificial state and the former russian territories, and the government of the country is allegedly relocating various ethnic groups, which can be classified as a genocide of russians, writes medvedev, and he also adds that we do not intend to turn a blind eye to this, says russia yet the russians will not come there, there will be no order, it is said at the end of the message well, today neither georgia nor kazakhstan have commented on medvedev's post, at least medvedev himself has not commented on

it, but dmitry medvedev's assistant said that the vkontakte page of the deputy chairman of the security council of russia was hacked, dear viewers, you can write to in the comments, what do you think about this, we will discuss it with us now on the link ivan preobrazhenskyi political scientist expert on the countries of central and eastern europe ivan hello in general, in what state can dmitry medvedev arrive when he writes his posts, but nevertheless. what do you think, they hacked and uh, substituted it, or did he write the real thing, then he thought and deleted it, uh, let's put it this way, the analysis of the text shows that it is most likely not dmitry medvedev wrote, as far as i know, these are his. shiny pastes in quotation marks that he recently writes are part of everything in a telegram, and they are indeed

written by him personally. written by another person, respectively, there are two options here, either one of dmitry medvedev's assistants, conditionally speaking, took a swing and added a little to what he wrote, or he rewrote it and published it accordingly, and after 10 minutes dmitry medvedeva remembered that he needed it to be removed, or a more likely option of course, it's hacking, but uh, how does the team talk about it and uh, believe that it's not hacking, many colleagues say that it's very well done. a fake that is creative, very consistently develop the thoughts that dmitry medvedev expressed earlier in similar radical posts, yes, and in principle, the russian leadership in the last at

least an hour has been standing and grazing in kazakhstan and georgia in general, i have read such publications even if they are fake well, i think that in principle kazakhstan has long it is worth staying because at least i will repeat myself aggressive statements are being made by russian officials in relation to kazakhstan, including, for example, the minister of foreign affairs of sergei lavrov and as for georgia, but if georgia did not begin to describe itself to russia after 2008, then what can be done here? i think that georgia understands very well that it is in a very difficult situation , and the georgian leadership is trying as much as possible, let's call it that way, to prepare a potential aggressor but we all know that this is hardly a reasonable policy in relations with the russian federation.

from the kremlin, well, on the contrary, medusa wrote about it, there they write that the administration of the president of russia has prepared a manual for their own media and politicians, where they recommend that the so-called special operation be compared to the baptism of russia, and putin to alexander nevsky, and here are the buildings of uh, desperation turned out to be at their disposal allow me to quote these two techniques just for our viewers , and here it is in the document that it is stated that, like the baptism of russia, the war in ukraine lays down the state foundations of the country and also the foundations the development of russia for a century ahead. here they are serious. i think they are completely serious in the sense that they wrote it to a large extent for vladimir putin, and now in russia, in principle, one reader is used for any practical texts, respectively, when these methods will begin to be used. i think that they

will really begin to be used by the russian leadership. this will not embarrass anyone , considering that, for example, moscow is being built, as they say, and there are such rumors. the arc de triomphe is near there is no so-called russian temple in the russian armed forces, so let's remember that the historical triumphal arch in russia was actually built after the victory over napoleon, that is , in this case, vladimir putin gathers himself there , compares himself with the winners of napoleon, i don't know, with alexander the first, with kutuzov with suvorov , it doesn't matter in this case with anyone. no, why don't they compare themselves to alexander nevsky at the same time, or someone from even more - legendary even more ancient figures, including the possible of joint history, everyone knows that the appearance near

the kremlin of a monument to st. vladimir in general, it was also such an absolutely symbolic gesture, including, er, there is no spoiler for kiev, and in this case, putin's vladimir is obviously completely er, if he is public and does not demonstrate, but in reality does not object at all to the cult of personality that is being built, uh, second question , how effective will these metallics be? i think they are absolutely ineffective precisely because it is too high. too far from reality, but the russians will be very comfortable repeating it on tv. just as they have been doing it for the last few months, it is completely irrelevant what they invest in. let’s say that ’s the way it is. propaganda also wanted to ask you about

today’s decision of the supreme court of russia, which declared azov a terrorist organization. it is obvious that the decision was not made in court, but in the kremlin, why? and it should also be noted that the decision was postponed and the meeting was postponed like this. in any case, if he did not enter into negotiations, he at least considered different options. and now, unfortunately , i have to say that you are. i suspect that this may be connected with the terrible events of valenevke . the russian side and, accordingly, a complex decision was made about the fact that uh, with the russians, i am asking for forgiveness with the ukrainian

war veterans, the russian side will deal with them as harshly as possible, this will begin now the processes are most likely some kind of big tribunal that the kremlin will have the server below 21 to remind about the february 24 large-scale attack on ukraine, respectively, it will be some kind of tribunal, they will be uh-eh casplayt let’s say that the nuremberg trials show that they will be with nazism and a huge number of people from it will suffer, and it will probably be even worse, because the death penalty exists in the territory of the so- called dnr and lnr puppet occupied territories under the control of russia . thank you for your comments ivan preobrazhensky political scientist, an expert on the countries of central and eastern europe, was on radio svoboda . us president joe biden said that al-qaeda leader

ayman al-zawahiri, one of the most wanted terrorists in the world, was killed on july 30. was on the run, he is the leading scaremonger until after bin laden himself was killed in pakistan in 2011, among other things, also as a result of an american special operation for information on the location of us even appointed a reward in the amount of 25 million dollars. what else is known about the terrorist and his murder? and also about what significance it has . minute by minute we will restore the connection, just now we were actually showing a photo with this terrorist who was killed. well , meanwhile, the latest news is that the plane did not crash and landed in taiwan. we

planned to discuss this topic immediately after the inclusion of ostap yarisha, i hope he will appear now. well, if he is not there, then we can probably go to stapyage . you can contact us. who was wanted by the united states, what is the significance of this, what is said in the united states about this, we actually want to hear from you, and as a leader, and in fact, after the death of baladan, he headed this organization, he was an ideological inspiration, they say here in the united states, and the actual destruction of it er it plays a very important role and the united states dominated this operation for a long consecutive long time actually managed to carry it out what is the practical significance of it i read the opinions of some experts i read what the american

changes say what the american government says joe bayne closed yesterday in his address and said that no matter where you are hiding, how long you are hiding, if you pose a threat to the american people, the combined tripods will find you and eliminate you, said jobani, american experts, military experts, and what also specialize in the study of terrorist organizations, they say that they were afraid that after the taliban came to power in afghanistan, that it might lead to the revival of al-qaeda or other terrorist organizations, that it could pose a great permanent threat to the united states and its allies, they say now that after the liquidation how can it be much more difficult because there is no concrete successor who could unite this organization, which could lead to some new attacks, they also say that this means that the united states, despite the fact that they withdrew these troops from afghanistan, despite the fact that there are no troops left there, are still capable, if necessary , of the ability to carry out effective attacks,

in particular against terrorist targets in this region, this once again demonstrates the ability of the united states to effectively carry out some kind of counter-terrorist operations that it is also important to emphasize that the two sides, as well as the state department, we have heard all the statements, then blinkin and the taliban accuse each other of violations of agreements so far, anthony brittin says that the taliban and afghanistan undertook not to give shelter to terrorist organizations on their territory, the taliban, on the contrary, accuses the united states of violating these agreements by carrying out this strike, we see such in principle, but experts also talk about the fact that so, again, to summarize, firstly, a-a c demonstrates the ability of the usa to carry out effective counter-terrorist operations despite the withdrawal of troops, the second indicates that it is unlikely that al-qaeda will somehow be able to be revived and potentially carry out some other attacks in the future. thank you very

much. poles today, literally during our broadcast, landed in the capital and ivaniv, taipei. i will only remind you that due to the possible visit of the speaker of the us house of representatives, the ministry of defense and ivaniv has raised the level the combat readiness of the national army at the same time as china started unplanned military exercises in the south china sea, in social networks they even published a video with the movement of military equipment towards the fujian province. and this is literally 150 km from taiwan. well, here it is worth explaining why in beijing they are annoyed by peles' visit to taiwan. the thing is that china considers taiwan to be its inseparable part and warned of serious consequences if the peles' visit takes place .

the republic of china, known as taiwan, recognizes itself as independent from china, and mainland china and the island of taiwan adhere to one china , that is, each considers itself to be the only true china and its rival the temporarily uncontrolled territory of the united states, although it does not maintain diplomatic relations with taiwan, but undertakes to ensure security islands from external threats, in particular, weapons and military equipment are supplied there. well, chinese pro-government journalists even published articles with threats what if the plane carrying nancy pelosi crosses the airspace of taiwan, then this plane can even be shot down, although most experts actually doubted that it would come to that well, now i am already reading the news, it is reported that the ministry of foreign affairs of china strongly condemned the visit of nancy pelosi to taiwan well, however, it looks like there may be some consequences, let 's talk about it further, contact us makar taran

, head of the ukrainian association of american studies, associate professor of taras kyiv national university shevchenko good evening, congratulations, well, actually nothing happened, i see an abortion from nancy-palos crossed the airspace of taiwan and landed successfully, what consequences can arise as a result of this ? on the map as relations with russia and aspects of supplying russia with weapons and providing russia with some kind of help, it is help for us , it is not dangerous enough for us, but i cannot say to what extent he will do it, so to speak, intensively and in large volumes, because chinese diplomacy is traditional, you know, it is semi-hidden, it is maneuverable, it is sufficient, it is balanced, these are all the different statements that were made. by the

way, we see that nothing different happened . military exercises are traditional. china reacts to them in this way to any visits. in tattoos, uh, my the second point that is visible right now is literally the fact that in american-chinese relations, the topic of thawing is again, unfortunately, i think so for our context now it can jump to the fore in the second place and china will be condition e-e with concessions regarding taiwan will condition certain points in relations with the united states. that is, on the one hand, it is bad for us, yes, from the point of view of the strategic schedule, but on the other hand, e-e, we must understand that so little happened. by the way, a couple of days ago i such a prediction carefully gave all this in the direction of american politics, all this bruce lee. by the way, backgraw to nancy pelosi, who is already 30 years old, and is such a figure who constantly teases uh, such

please tell me, why was it so important for her to get to taiwan in spite of all the numerous warnings, even i read there some reports that even biden warned against this. of course, let's take the position of the president, it is such that he must be quite careful, careful to express himself and make certain verbal statements as safeguards, well, again, first for everything, nancy pelazi, she is such a passionate defender of human rights, in particular, democratic rights and freedoms, and in particular in china, in hong kong in 1991, when she arrived at telemen. they even unfolded everything there. by the way, they unfolded there is also a handwritten banner where she paid respect to those who died for china's democracy. this is her worldview, this is the worldview, the political worldview of the democratic party, and it is a political necessity

for the democratic administration in the united states to provide first of all an emotional emotional stimulus to the taiwanese under the conditions when china started another round of weapons, well, and secondly, here we also need to look even more broadly... taiwan. i think that it is possible that there will be a conversation about it, after all, taiwan is considered as one of the elements... those of the oceanic indo, those of the christian, more precisely , they say that already the military-political strategy of the indo-chinese rural political strategy and surely there will be some conversations about how to integrate taiwan even more into security relations , from the point of view of the identification of this military-political strategy, which began very actively several years ago uh, to be advertised in the united states, thank you very much for your comment. well, i hope we will monitor what kind of visas are online

and maybe maybe we will hear some more statements from china today and tomorrow, which are important and not let's hear and see what are important for the ukrainian context, thank you very much makar and the head of the ukrainian association of american studies associate professor of taras shevchenko kyiv national university was on radio svoboda well, i traditionally encourage you to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda in social networks we are on instagram telegram vibery ot e yes, on facebook and twitter , and there are also two channels on youtube, radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine, where we publish both programs and reports from journalists of radio svoboda, which in fact, they work in every ukrainian region, in particular on the front line, they show live what is happening against the background of the war in ukraine and the world, and it is also on the website of radio liberty, read the latest update, in particular, and regarding the visit of nensipalis to taiwan, we will also follow this closely, well, traditionally svoboda life

will return to the air tomorrow my congratulations to everyone who is with us, this is news, together with the espresso editorial team, we will round up the news of the day . this was reported by the head of the regional military administration, serhiy borzov, about the details of the shelling of the territory of the region, so far there is no information. well, further operational information from the general staff, all attempts to advance the enemy in the direction of the company, the top of volodymyrivka, yakovlivka, klynove zaytseve and pokrovske bakhmut, our defenders successfully repelled the occupiers with executions and retreated, according to the general headquarters in the direction of the

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