thank you very much serhiy zgurets, director of the defense express agency, host of the column, military summaries of the day, about weapons, about support, about help and about how these weapons are used. it's definitely not worse, and now we will talk about international events today, of course, the attention of the whole world was focused on the plane with nancy palosi on the oblavko, which landed in taipei, about this about yesterday's elimination of the leader al-qaeda and nato aid to ukraine ihor eisenberg is in touch professor of the university of law mr. ihor i congratulate you i congratulate you mr. vasylyu i congratulate you the press glory to ukraine to the heroes i first hear information about volodymyr zelenskyi's conversation with the leadership of nato and about aid to ukraine, and then we will discuss it, and then we will move on to the semi-axis

as well. the president of the european union and the secretary general of the alliance, janson stoltenberg, also discussed the assistance provided by nato to the humanitarian demining of ukrainian territories. zelenskyi expressed hope for the acceleration of the supply of the necessary equipment . alliance to participate in the online summit of the crimean platform may have been told by the president what we need more heavy weapons in order to carry out offensive actions. mainly in the east of our country , nato support is what it is providing to ukraine today . after all, it is provided so that we definitely do not lose even meters of our land to be

occupied by the enemy, or so that we could move forward, because as the head of the president's office, andriy yarmak, said that by winter we should end this war, please, well, look. of course , the number one support, at least in the beginning , was provided in order to stop the link russia in front of er now support as i believe it should be provided in order for ukraine to move forward in order for ukrainians to equalize their land the united states and all the other countries of the west are providing ukraine with more weapons in order for ukraine to equalize its land from the

occupiers from the invaders. millions of dollars, these are also missiles for heimers, as well as 150 fifth-caliber shells of the nato model , which are now very necessary for ukraine, also these shells , these are these smart excalibur shells. well, what can actually hit the enemy's point and destroy his infrastructure, because the ammunition depots are located there, these are all their e buildings and so on. well, also crossings, logistics, everything that enables the enemy to conduct hostilities, here are these 550 million, is it too much or too little in your opinion, and can we count on even more, and again as far as i understand, lend-lease has not yet fully worked or not, please, and you are absolutely right, of course it has worked. but there is nothing wrong with this, look, i will explain why and it provides for the transfer of weapons to ukraine, ah, but under such conditions, this is ukraine i would have to

pay for this weapon not immediately, but somehow at this time. that is, what is instead of a church, if you translate it literally into english, it is an unarmed rental or a weapon with a certain delay in payment for it, and this is how it works, john kirby, e- e that correspond he used to be a former speaker at the pentagon of the ministry of defense, currently he is the coordinator of strategic communications of the national security council, that is, he already works in the past, by the way, he recently explained that langes is the transfer of weapons in such a way that ukraine will have to pay for this weapons, so far the administration has the opportunity to provide ukraine with weapons free of charge for ukraine, that is, simply at the expense of the american budget, in which

funds are allocated for this purpose. and this is how these funds are at least the administration, as kyrpion said, or to use it. that is, it will continue to provide ukraine with weapons on such terms that ukraine should not pay for a liter of anything. that is, it is the help of the united states, and i think that you should not worry about whether it is currently available or not. receives aid weapons will continue it how to say i think that when the hammer will go that is about real when the forest well, let's say when if ukraine will receive, for example , american planes well, for sure there that's it, the forest will work because they are not so expensive eh well and under certain conditions, i don't know how you can make a sales star, i'm not 100 years old for sure well, i think so well, not a very long time, but there it will work, then the budget will be specially allocated funds for ukraine to receive weapons in may, the congress approved it 11 billion well, what

about handing over weapons to ukraine that are simply in the pentagon? well, and that is, the president decides that he approves the next package, i will tell you how yesterday he transferred what is currently there. in the same the budget itself has 6 billion e-e mm and the principle that is, it is an initiative and assistance to ukraine in the field of security when this money can e-e means used to purchase weapons and manufacturers for example, e-e these two norwegian anti- chewing defense systems united the manufacturer’s winter states. well, they will be made to order , and billions will be paid for these parts , let’s say the same for these

drones of comics. ukraine somewhere around a month, it was determined by the manufacturers, that is, at the end of the money, ukraine can have weapons for free, she gets them for free , yes, and she said yes, my visit is a signal of resolute commitment to supporting democracy, e-e, the speaker of the house of representatives of the united states of america, the third person in the us state today, the whole world was listening and everyone held their breath watching her plane on the plane on the flight radar. she arrived on the island of taiwan and her plane was a diplomatic slap in the face of threats of war. the speaker and representatives of the us congress of the pilos agency arrived in taiwan and the plane landed hm at the sumchan airport in taipei, the american

special port was accompanied by combat aircraft and ivan , meanwhile, several su-35 fighters of the chinese air force crossed the taiwan strait in the direction of the island, instead of the japanese bass, military fighters flew towards taiwan - the air force of the united states of america, the tension was serious, did not stick, and after making a statement about the support of the united states for taiwanese democracy, at times the chinese foreign ministry has already condemned the visit of pilos to the island well and saying that we strongly condemn and so on and so on and so on let me ask you to know well, first of all, how much this tension was felt in the states themselves, because we understand that there it is closer to us yesterday they saw, as you see today, the chinese were carrying a ballistic missile around china, somewhere there they were conducting some kind of tests. well, in combat , the naval forces, aviation, all military units on the territory of china, that is, everything was like that, you know how they say, seriously, how is it how was it felt in the states please and how do you evaluate the visit-strip was it necessary or not necessary, what were your thoughts because we in ukraine understand that the dictatorship must be

given diarrhea at least somehow please absolutely with you later and i am proud of the speaker, this is the pilots, i am proud that she went er, on the day that she was coming, an arrow flew by, we generally have this plan , after all, sentiment, you know, i worked there for 3.5 months, until 2014, i read the concept , spoke at several universities at seminars, it’s just a wonderful country, er, with wonderful people if they built such a developed and flourishing ukraine from literally nothing, in 1949 there was nothing there, they were fishing in the sea and growing sugar crops, that's the whole economy, now it's one of the most developed countries in the world, and it's a democratic country, and it's a democracy, what kind china is an authoritarian communist country. i just like to destroy it, and that's why i think that this visit

is especially important now, when vasyl zinkeny is the head of the people's deputies' republic. he is constantly threatening in one way or another the way this visit is very important in order to demonstrate whether the united states will support krakow getting freedom against authoritarianism, and i wouldn't even say that the united states is this visit. maybe it was not necessary to go, but there were many votes against you in support until january 8, is everything correct, she decided to go there, she still has to go, that is, i think that there were more votes in her support, well , even for example yesterday, when was it known that she will go right there, after all, the place was held , uh, they hid what she decided on copying state secretary blinking yesterday he said that well,

it's her business, but she decides it herself, as uh, she was a legislative branch of government, which is independent of the executive branch, that is, if she she decided to go . so she is going to you. i think it is very right. she just made connections in the states . this does not show china and russia that they will support democracy against authoritarianism. they will support freedom against those who encroach on it. to freedom, not water, to the freedom of other countries, to their return, and well, that is, i am very pleased that she went there. well, in 1991, nancy pilosiv was still a deputy of the congress and she was on animenia square and even then she spoke and spoke about democracy, about support, and about the fact that this democracy must be defended. and you know. today, if we speak

, it is difficult for many people to understand, maybe. well, maybe they are for many, but for certain people, it is difficult to understand. and what is taiwan? well, from the chinese go to china, as if the republic of china is taiwan, and the chinese are the people's republic of china, and after the speeches of the communists, the chaikang shia government fled to taiwan, and it was taiwan that was the first, the first time, the chinese res put china in the united nations, then taiwan was excluded from there and became china well, in fact, only 19 countries with the organization of poor nations have recognized the sovereignty of china there. 57 countries have relations with it but do not recognize it. that is, there is such a thing, but this is a state that actually started as china and then became as if not to china, yes, yes, yes, it happened in and that's why there are analogies between russia and ukraine today, which is also important, and unfortunately there is no analogy, because taiwan is really a very developed country, there are 23 million people living there, but their gdp is 700 billion dollars, while the gdp of ukraine is around 200 billion, let's say so that we understand. and 70% of the chips in the whole world are made

in taiwan, and it is very important for us today that taiwan does not support russia and china cannot take it because the chips for russian missiles are, let's say, very are needed not only for rockets, that's why it is important here. and as you see, is there an analogy here and why was it important to put, well, show here, you know, your strength in taiwan, now in the states, so as not to give a reason to even doubt that democracy will not give the dictatorship the opportunity to put its bloody paw on its values, please. i believe that it is very important, look at that ivan, that ivan is interesting. why ivan is a democratic country, what a country, really , it was built from nothing in a simple place, and the country is very developed, indeed, a country with an absolutely unique chip production. nowhere in the world doesn't exist, it just doesn't, they don't produce chips, such as those who produce uh, in that plan, and not only not only because there they produce chips, uh, this plan is

important . he is in a very difficult situation because you absolutely rightly said that most of the world's countries do not even have diplomatic relations in the style of england, they formally formally stopped recognizing taiwan as an independent state by establishing there are diplomatic relations with the people's republic of china. well, this happened during the late 1960s and early 1970s. the united states did not establish full diplomatic relations with the people's republic of china in 1979, and they broke off diplomatic relations on a formal basis. that is, this country exists under the conditions of of such formal diplomatic isolation in the aggregate, this country has, for example, for a very, very long time, a visa-free

regime, and states not associated with the european union, for all the leading democracies of the world, this a very developed country. i, for example, am amazed. i am probably nowhere in the world if i had given a lecture in many countries. i have not seen such students. you know , they are so literal. they ask so many questions . they have such a desire to learn. maybe you know such a detail, it is probably the only country in the world where when you go to a store, you see the products there, most of the products are not produced in the people's republic of china, they are produced in the republic of china. that is, you have developed products produced in taiwan. by the way, a completely different by the culture of production, that is, what made the speaker work is that she went there, i am really proud of myself because she shows that for the united states it is absolutely essential to

support democracy, support democracy, democracy against authoritarianism, against totalitarianism, support for freedom against those who encroach on this freedom very much it's important, mr. igor, i'm also me now, we'll just add one more guest and continue our conversation ... of security, oleksandr, i congratulate you. good evening. i would like to say the best part here is that china actually wanted to integrate taiwan into the hong kong example, it seems like a wide autonomy . read it like this, they would give a back and put a brake on this er-e involvement of the taiwanese in china, they should now have a situation that we have in your opinion. break down and still use weapons in this

situation. i'm not talking about the downed plane with a speaker. well, but the tension was quite significant, please, to be honest. in fact, i'm not sure that the chinese are so much. tell them like the russians so that they can use weapons against so much a respected political person from the usa, i am not sure about this, so if you want to know my opinion, then i think that it is unlikely that the chinese have gone to armed escalation, although after february 24 we see that everything can happen, i will only ask you briefly and then igor one thing. here is the statement of the chinese foreign ministry that we decided to strongly condemn it, and on august 4-7, naval exercises will be held around taiwan, in fact , around ivaniv, and how do you comment on this statement? we strongly condemn it. training, now we see in which areas the training should take place around the island of taiwan, please, mr. oksano,

first you, and then mr. igor, please . well, i think that the chinese still had to answer somehow, you understand after of that tension which has developed around this visit to lose face, all the more so before such an important and political political event that is planned in china or in the fall. i think they had to respond somehow and this is a kind of show of force to what extent it can lead to an escalation of the military. i am not sure, but it is such a kind of answer, whatever we collected weapons for a reason, we drove armored vehicles on the beaches for a reason. now there will be training, but every training can end . we also know from our own experience that there are still days as they say, they honor the chinese people's liberation army, but igor, please, how do you comment on the statement of the ministry of foreign affairs, here are these exercises of the fourth - august 7, you know, as they say, a good mina for a bad game, please, well, the statement is of course so

bellicose, but i agree with the composition of oleksandr and what china is unlikely to dare to have a real military consultation. the fact is, look at that vanya, there are 23 million people there, but very, very well armed, the army cylinder, although 14 in lviv sea claude is only a commercial one. yes, that is, if we assume that china joined the invasion, it is not an island, the chinese army is with us, a huge tractor, if it was so easy, we managed to defeat him, this is the kind of war, if and besides, if we assume that er, everyone is intimate there, the chinese leadership has decided to start a war, i have one more question. i'm sorry that i may have interrupted a little because there is not much time. i want to hear

your opinion. leaders and militants it is important yesterday usa was found as a result of a special operation of the terrorist leader, the doll goes to ayman azawahiri, it happened in kabul, a rocket hit the balcony where he was resting, well, in fact, he was destroyed, he became the leader of the fry, after the destruction of the previous leader of bin laden himself, who organized and planned the attack on the twin towers in new york on september 11, i will remind you that this happened, and therefore, alexander, why is this story important? and what did the usa show? to kabul controlled by the plates please well this event is actually very important for how many reasons and they destroyed it as of yesterday they destroyed it on the 31st but they just reported well they actually checked why it is important well because it is as you know the americans closed the account after september 11 they had the account is not closed and now, with the destruction of the

arcade leaders, they have closed this own account, and besides . well, the problem is for terrorists, especially after the retirement age, which is a sin sooner or later . with his terrorist past, but at least to improve his life there, that's why when he moved to kobul, the americans caught him and destroyed him, and thereby put an end to how this will affect terrorism in the world. well, actually, not at all, because zaohiri has been there for the last 10 years you know, he is an ideological leader for a few, no, no, not a large number of real chuchutists, because yes , yes, and mr. igor, from your opinion, i heard why it was perceived in the united states, and it really will strengthen biden’s rating and, in general, maybe scare those terrorists who may be on paper in the american special services, please be positive and uh,

regarding biden's rating, look at biden's rating, more than anything, it would be better to say the truth, it mainly affects the economic situation in the usa, that is, but not the global economic situation, if the economic situation of ordinary people it affects her the most, and in the usa, of course , it is perceived positively because, well, another uh, to see after september 11, this is such a car injury for americans, that's why, uh, the placement of these leaders you are generally perceived positively in america during these years, i have to put a full stop, thank you very much for joining, thanks to igor eisenberg, professor at new york university, and dyak oleksandr korinkov, director of the international center for the study of security problems, thank you, i wish you , take care and all the best and literally in a minute we will be back, we will talk with the guest about the war crime of the russians in the deer park, the consequences of this story, please don't wait

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what became the subject of our dialogue with the guest. which we will add a little later . therefore, the united nations does not respond to ukraine's requests regarding the terrorist attack by the russians in olenivka, it can be called war crimes and a terrorist attack, the human rights commissioner of the supreme dmytro lubinets of the council of ukraine, he noted that it was the first day, a little on the first day of the tragedy , he sent requests. however, he did not receive any signal, even from the unofficial united nations and the red cross, who acted as guarantors of the life and health of ukrainian prisoners of war . the red cross of communication is noted by the commissioner with the red cross of communication is only the thing is that the red cross is not allowed on the moon of this tragedy that happened in one of the marriages so this can obviously be called and these are the barracks, in fact, where they received the ukrainian azov soldiers who carry out the will of the supreme commander, again, this was a reminder so that we do not forget and do not confuse anything, this was the decision of the supreme commander. he gave the

order to save the lives of the azov soldiers of the national guard , the marines, the police, er, the soldiers of the sbu there there were different people. mainly there was the azov regiment, representatives of the azov regiment who defended mariupoli for a long time due to circumstances and defended mariupol, but they fought hard battles, they were in it forever the wounded were sick, they were very seriously wounded, but these were also civilians there and in these situations, they received an order to save their lives, they came out, of course, the russians were already waiting for them there, and here are these collaborators from the so-called dpr and lpr, they imprisoned them in a bus and were taken to the occupied territory of donetsk region and then they were placed and again this was a guarantee that they would live where various representatives of various fields of various forces of various states and the united nations red cross remained before these negotiations, so they had to guarantee that they will be guaranteed life, but they began to be tortured, they began to try, these statistical interrogations were the facts of that and the

fighters who had already left, who were there, the exchange of a certain part of our fighters, managed to exchange 50 men, if i am not mistaken, and they said about that that they felt torture, our soldiers were wounded, their bandages were removed from their broken bones, and they suffered near the russians. somewhere there somehow secretly stabbed well, again, this is an occupied territory, ukrainians already live there, well, obviously someone felt sorry for these soldiers of ours but again, it was torture, it was suffering, bad food, have you seen photos of our soldiers , in particular, and indeed, volyn, which well, they were exhausted. and here's what happened in the deer shed, what happened, they were beaten, we don't know for sure whether these people were alive there, some of the people who will die, whether they were alive or not. they weren't alive, it can't be found out in any way now. there was an explosion in this barracks volyn residents, up to 50 of our soldiers, prisoners of war , they died, and some of them just sat there and

burned, that is, and then they immediately said that it was a ukrainian rocket. heimers flew in, but there were no broken windows in the neighboring houses, uh, there were no holes. there were no consequences at all, there was nothing of the sort from the impact of the blast wave, that is, when we see when the rockets arrive, in fact, they say that it can be the use of thermobaric weapons of thermobaric weapons, this is when everything burns out inside and the consequences of what they see now, well, for specialists, these are obvious things, here we see burnt beds, charred beds, shoes, bodies, we saw some bodies. well, excuse me for the naturalism, i just touched these beds, they happened to be there as it was , that is, they were already melted and metal and and people and origins with prisoners of war they must be fed, they must be clothed, they must be treated, they must work with them, in fact, psychologists remove work, doctors, and they have the right to communicate with their relatives, they must be given phones there

the possibility to write some letters, well, now there is no need to write letters now, her phones, in principle , you can chat, nothing like that is even close