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i think we will already hear it at 21:30. don't skip it after the news release of bvc news ukraine. you will have the opportunity to see us again and we will see and listen to our correspondent. maybe there, well , it is impossible, there will definitely be people there who are competent to say more and officially comment on that what happened, thank you for being with us . let's meet in half an hour. and now for your attention , a news release from my colleagues from the ukrainian service of bbc news. let's watch it together. good evening. we are from ukraine. 160th open day of the russian war in to ukraine with the results of the broadcast from ukraine in the studio in london olga melchevska good evening the russian supreme court recognized azov as a terrorist organization azov's response called to recognize russia as a terrorist state as western weapons affect the
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course of the war a special report on purchases on the eastern front line the us house of representatives nancy pylosa arrived on taiwan china protests threatens consequences in afghanistan al-qaeda leader ayman elsa waherri was killed in a targeted us drone strike and the russian supreme court recognized the azov regiment as a terrorist organization and banned its activities on the territory of russia. the decision came
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into force. the russian state snake was immediately notified of the azov regiment, which is part of the national guard in the structure of the armed forces of the russian federation. it was already famous during the defense of mariupol. azov responded to the decision of the russian court with a statement that in this way, russia is looking for ghosts and explanations of its own war crimes after the deer hunt and called on the usa and other civilized countries to recognize russia as a terrorist state, official kyiv until the decision of the russian court commented the adviser to the head of the president's office, mykhailo podolyak, also repeatedly called on his twitter to recognize russia as a terrorist state, what does this decision of the supreme court mean, we will try to talk with our correspondents later, but for now we will move on to another material, one more aspect of the tragedy of captured fighters, it is
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about whether there are it is now very difficult to establish his whereabouts, my colleagues from the bbc managed to communicate with alina, the wife of a soldier who served in mariupol and then, according to him, ended up in elenivtsi and then she lost contact with him about the details, see the next article. the last time i was with him was not the last time i talked to him when he was on the azovstal. when there was such an opportunity, he wrote to me very rarely, but i knew that he was alive . then he was the only one once when he got into the deer pen it was a short 3-minute conversation he said don't worry and wait for me everything will be fine alina's husband defended mariupol now he is in russian captivity he was in this colony in an occupied deer pen here the russians get many prisoners of war, on july 29, at least 50 ukrainians died here at the time of the explosion in the hangar
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, there were 193 prisoners, and a terrible thing happened. there are dead and injured now. after this tragedy, we decided to appeal to the media again so that everyone remembers that there are such people, there are such heroes of azovstal who defended all of ukraine thanks to whom we are all alive and waiting for their return home we are from the city of mariupol my husband was born in mariupol lived there i myself moved from shirokini when the war started i moved to mariupol then met a a good man like my husband, we talked with him and i learned that he was going to go to serve . at first i did not react too well to it because after what i experienced i had a trauma. like my husband, i did not see good things in shyrokino, i was in mariupol or i was in mariupol i left
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there on march 30. i was in the city center. i also saw all this gloom. for me, all this was not scary. for me, the scariest thing was that i was out of touch with my closest person. i didn't know what happened to him. i didn't know what happened to him when he came out with already steel when he came out of the azov steel, i didn't see him, i saw him on the video from the deer park, i saw him in formation on other videos, i saw him in the dining room, i could n't pray it was definitely my husband, i recognize him from a thousand, then i made sure that he really came out and is now in the deer park mm. i thought that nothing could be worse than azovstal. as it turned out, it could be worse. and it was either the arrivals or a special explosion, a terrorist attack, but we all know what that side is capable of, we know what the russian side is capable of. everything that we were promised that our fighters will be well, they went out according to
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some agreements that their lives would be saved and that they would be safe, but what happened is what happened, you will not bring back those people who died there, you will not bring back the heroes who were expected from captivity, who died there, you will not bring back those heroes who were waiting at home from captivity and now we are in touch with our colleague zhanna bezpyachuk, who, as my colleagues tell me, is now live from kyiv zhanna from what you managed to learn in the process of working on this topic. please tell me what is the actual meaning of this the decision of the russian supreme court that recognized the azov regiment from the wolves of a terrorist organization may affect the actual prospects for the exchange of prisoners and the possibility of freeing ukrainian prisoners of war. congratulations olya. so we can
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say that with this decision, er, russia has deprived ukrainian fighters from the regiment azov 's immunity from criminal responsibility for participating in hostilities is the key in this story, that is, that from now on they will not have the immunity granted to them in accordance with the norms international humanitarian law, they were protected in particular by the third geneva convention on the treatment of prisoners of war, now this protection is not available in the ukrainian military compounds of azov in accordance with russian legislation, but it is worth considering that their removal from azov and their transfer to russian control took place under direct control and under through the mediation of the united nations and the international committee of the red cross, they undertook obligations, in particular, the obligation to
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guarantee the preservation of the lives and health of these people and with a possible further perspective of their transfer , i.e. within the framework of the exchange of transfer of prisoners of war to ukraine, from now on, in fact, this is the decision of the russian court nullifies and cancels these agreements, and ukraine itself and the world can make sure that it is the russian side that does not comply with the what was agreed at the highest international level regarding the question of whether an exchange of a prisoner of war can take place after what happened when we talk about the release of e-e from the captivity of the ukrainian military by and large, this issue is by and large open according to russian legislation, from now on not according to international legislation, and this is how it will be resolved, and we will only be able to see in the
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future, they also understood that with this decision of their court, russia, so to speak, raised the stakes in any future negotiations regarding the exchange of prisoners of war, they say that now it is not just about the defenders of azov steel who had the status of prisoners of war, but about members of the leaders of the organizers of a terrorist organization like this is now called in russia. please tell me that this decision did not come as a surprise for russia itself. it has been discussed there for two and a half years, as far as i remember. what do you think or what do the experts think, why was it introduced just now? olya , well, actually. we can draw conclusions about why now the general context of events and in particular the events on the fronts, the first thing worth noting is that the
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ukrainian army is successfully advancing on the kherson region, and there is a likely scenario in which it will be possible to return the ukrainian city of kherson and, in general, the entire the region is under the legal control of ukraine, but there is one important nuance: there is a risk that at least part of the military group of the russian army in the kherson region may be blocked by kherson itself . it can be a sufficiently large number of soldiers and officers of the russian army, and then russia will have to negotiate, or at least try to do so, with ukraine to release its citizens from captivity accordingly, it is possible that such actions, as suggested by some experts of russia, are preemptive, they say, to
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complicate the negotiating position of ukraine and to interest it in future large exchanges of prisoners of war if it receives , conditionally or literally, quantitatively, a larger number of prisoners of war this is the first moment and the second moment that we see in the mass media in social networks that such a purposeful mass, multifaceted information or, more precisely, disinformation attack on the people of azov is taking place. a new stage, a new round of disinformation by disinformation companies, propaganda, e-e, the russian side is trying to convince, well, at least its own population that, according to its version, the azov people are allegedly involved in war crimes, and in this way they were actually preparing the informational basis for making such a decision in court, few people are
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convinced because it was a legal decision . thank you very much for being able to talk to us despite the rain in kyiv and despite the difficult conditions in which you work and at the same time the usa continues to help ukraine weapons washington announced the day before the next batch, a new package worth 550 million dollars will contain more ammunition for advanced high-mobility missile systems known as himals, as well as ammunition for artillery. this was reported by the official representative of the pentagon , john kirby. at the time of president joe biden's inauguration, it had already exceeded $8 billion. last week, it became known that germany will sell a hundred howitzers to ukraine - these are one of the best self-propelled artillery systems in the world, which will significantly strengthen the capabilities of the artillery of the armed forces of ukraine. in addition, a batch of 100 units is one of the largest during the conflict. currently, ukraine
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has a little more than 10 such howitzers from germany and the netherlands. all of them were supplied from available resources such as it will be necessary now they will have to be built and according to the press report - it will last for several years, one such modern weapon can not change the situation in the future, but these howitzers are equipped with a charging mechanism, as a result of which the rate of fire reaches 10 shots per minute in a special mode, these weapons can fire three shots in nine seconds, and despite the weight of more than 50 t, they move well off- road, to what extent do western weapons change the situation at the front, and are they sufficient for a counteroffensive in the east of the ukrainian the military on the front lines say that thanks to the fact that they have such weapons, russian shelling has halved there, is this a short-term lull or a sign that the dynamics of the war are changing, bbc correspondent andrew found out
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guarding on the fronts of ukraine are already used to the thunder of war, but here in donbas the situation is changing, we are in a hurry to a secret place to see weapons that can help change the course of this war, caesar, a gift from france today, a goal, a giant barrel is aimed at a russian target 27 km from here, three shots a little more than a minute and a quick retreat now we have to get out quickly before the russians can determine our positions and strike back менеше вышеяје ie есть менеше работает well i wish of course this weapon changes everything he says the commander of the unit, dmytro, now they can be
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more precise and further away from the russians. that is, it makes it possible to escape from half of their attacks, and here is the evidence of the explosion of huge russian ammunition warehouses, which were kissed by western weapons like caesar, and here is this american long- range missile system, key bridges like this one on the south in kherson was also shelled, so they hope to kill russian equipment, which potentially opens up opportunities for a counteroffensive, all this helps to clarify that this is the case on this part of the eastern front quiet, extremely quiet, maybe this is another sign of russia's weakness, just listen to this breath of a soldier. along the front line, they explain to us in every way that western weapons are really important
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. -fifty 50x50, now the dynamics of the attacks are 50 to 50 - says colonel yuriy bereza, this is thanks to the artillery that the west has put here, but this is not enough for a counterattack, we need a lot more weapons, otherwise the bloodshed will not be stopped, and the issue is not only in the equipment strength also matters ukraine lacks recruits to cover the losses on the front for volunteers who have never fought before here they have organized additional training it is conducted by a group of private western military experts it is worrying that some of these guys could be in the trenches tomorrow and they lack basic soldiering skills that is the usual standard in the west, but
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their strength is that this is their motherland and all these 36-37 soldiers seem to want to defend it. you should burn with all your heart here you are really on fire, but to be sure of success, you also need weapons and trained soldiers, strength is in the repertoire, she was met by crowds of demonstrators with placards taiwan is not china, taiwan loves sha on their faces were masks of the colors of the ukrainian flag with the inscription against the invasion of this capital of taiwan, they passed through chinese demonstrations condemning vacuum cleaners while he also sent military jets straight to the demarcation line separating mainland china from taiwan ahead of a controversial planned visit by the speaker chamber of representatives of the us on the island, which is called
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a self-proclaimed island, which considers taiwan a separatist province and wants you to connect ahead of serious consequences. in the case of the visit , the ministry of defense of taiwan, in turn, stated that it intends to defend itself against any chinese threats as far as it can go in china is the embodiment of threats due to the visit of the speaker of the house of representatives of the american congress, we will talk with viktor kostiantynov, associate professor of the department of international relations of shevchenko kyiv university who is joining us from kyiv, victor, this visit by the encipilo to taiwan caused a great storm from the point of view of regional security, in your opinion, to what extent is it justified, why the usa, which until now maintained a semblance of normal relations with china, decided now to escalate actually he is not unpredictable and the escalation has already begun a long time ago, even before the arrival of trump and washington. not to mention biden, but today such a visit
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really seems a little out of time both in the context of global security and in the context of regional security because it is superimposed on the very complex word problems today there are not enough security problems not only in europe, but also in educational asia. some commentators try to compare china's encroachment on taiwan with russian territorial attacks on the east and south of ukraine. do you see any parallels here and why parallels can always be found although in fact there are more differences in these two problems. and perhaps the biggest thing that they have in common is that in both cases we have a context of confrontation between the west and a non- western state, at least as russia is trying in this way, to present the war in ukraine and china also presents the taiwan problem first of all as aggression from the west, aggression from the united states of america and as an encroachment on the traditional e-e lands of china itself, or china
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fundamentally considers taiwan to be its territory and categorically does not recognize any -what are the reasons for the declaration of independence and in this regard for china, it is possible that this is an equally painful problem related to national identity, but it is also related to prestige today, and this is about whom a lot of problems prestige status the security of the nation is the general ideology on which chinese politics is built today, this is actually the reason why this conflict can very quickly go through the escalation stage, and it will be another , unfortunately, very unpleasant comparison if china still decides to go for a force scenario for example now, and in principle it could be another
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crisis with simulated landings like the one that happened, for example, in the 90s of the last century. and when there were missile launches over the head of taiwan, when there was preparation for an amphibious operation in general, this can turn into a direct clash between the defense forces and ivan and the national liberation army of china, which then, in principle, can escalate in any direction until the start of a full-scale war. thank you, mr. viktor, we will monitor how events unfold further and while we are talking about another high-profile case of us international politics, the country's president, joe biden, announced the killing in afghanistan of the leader of the al-qaeda group, ayman zahiri, according to him, zahiri's whereabouts became known earlier this year, the representative of the white house told us in a special briefing that a high-precision strike was carried
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out last sunday on a house in the afghan capital in which zawaghir was hiding recently. the anti-java special operation was the first strike by american forces in afghanistan since the withdrawal of american troops in august last year year details further in the plot decades of effort and america announces the killing of one of the most wanted terrorists my dear the americans on saturday on my order the united states successfully launched an attack on kabul in afghan no as a result bitto emiralkade alman al-zawaheri the president says he gave his personal consent to the murders of zawas often shine justice has been done this terrorist leader is no more people all over the world no longer need fear a brutal and ruthless killer the united states continues to demonstrate our resolve and ability to protect the american people from those who
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seek to harm us tonight we again make it clear that no matter how long it takes, if you pose a threat to our people, the united states will find you and destroy you, this time it took 21 years. tactics and organizational skills caused the death of almost three thousand people both men were close zawaheri was even bin laden's personal doctor the united states set a reward of 25 million dollars for him dead or alive i think it really shows the challenges we face in our anti-terror policy if al-zawahiri was able to survive for two decades and safely survive the war in afghanistan before we were able to
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eliminate him and z-zawahiri took over the leadership after the assassination of biladin in 2011- according to biden, america tracked him for a year, eventually finding him in a conspiracy house in kabul. and for wahl, they killed him with two rockets. his family members were not injured. there were rumors that what are you doing? your poor health and he became isolated and with the emergence of other terrorist groups such as the so-called islamic state, his influence was relatively insignificant and it was as if they called this killing a violation of international principles, but the presence of a zawaghir in kabul cast doubt on the promise of the taliban that the country would not be a refuge for terrorists "
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and violent protests in kosovo moved ukraine more than serbia, and this is probably fear that another new conflict may arise in europe, but you should know that this is not the first protest by local serbs in kosovo, which erupt from time to time. although everything is calm now, the situation yesterday in the north of kosovo was very tense. 11 people were injured on the roads, and the demonstrators opened fire on the kosovo security forces, fortunately there were no casualties, and it should also be emphasized that serbia does not have the military potential for a war against kosovo, this potential it can be said that it was destroyed during the nato airstrikes against serbia in 1999. serbia is also completely
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surrounded by the member countries of the alliance, what should be feared is the constant political tension of the barricades and similar outbreaks and violence that can permanently damage the stability of kosovo and the entire region studio thank you boris you have already touched on this issue a little bit. serbia, like russia , also ukraine. they do not recognize the independence of kosovo, but the peace process with the southern neighbor is one of the prerequisites for the integration of serbia with the eu. noted how belligerent statements of the serbian president in the student are consistent with belgorod's course on membership and whether they see the sharpening of russian words, so the recognition of kosovo as an independent state is one of the main conditions for serbia's membership in the eu, this was recently announced in brussels and very loudly here and not only the recognition of
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kosovo, but also the coordination of belgrade's foreign policy with brussels, i.e. serbia, as a candidate country for the eu, must lead the sanctions of the russian federation, and this is very important to understand, i closed my eyes for many years on the behavior of belgrade, but russia's full-scale war against ukraine has now changed that emphasis, that is, the president of serbia oleksandr vusich is not only not ready to fulfill these basic conditions. to fly and economically i would say that serbia is now not only a political but also a civilizational choice studio thank you very much boris and it was boris varga and serbia and russia
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continues to shell ukrainian cities has begun mandatory evacuation from donetsk region, kyiv calculated that more than 220,000 people need to be evacuated from donetsk region, you can read more about this on our bbc.ua website and on our pages in social networks, and you can turn on our program tomorrow at exactly 9:00 pm kyiv time from anywhere in the world, comment on youtube, we always read and follow your comments very carefully. take care that ukrainians do not think that they do not speak in the first place, war, war, and our
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