i will be a conductor, i will be the conductor, the main thing will be to determine the rules in my car, that’s fine, but it seems more and more that putin is fed up with this conductor and he wants to change him in this car, and there are no chinese here, uh, i think they won’t interfere with putin, even for lukashenka relations with china is probably one of the best security guarantees that lukashenka will remain in power and he is trying very actively to play this guarantee now. china's interest in belarus was that it would be present between russia and europe like them was considered in such a town, do you remember, i was there 25 years ago when i heard this concept in relation to ukraine, someone was constantly trying to

repeat the silk road between china and europe. so i wanted to say what you said, that everything is turning into the fact that today's russian territory is turning into on the bridge or there are bridges, dams, students, i know how it will be there from the point of view of geography, misha, europe and china, today's world is developing in such a way that, you know, it's like the yin-yang of the western world and the asian world, that's russia uh she is not really in terms of mentality. she is neither western nor eastern. she is post-ordinian and no one in this world needs her in such a reality. because in the place of those who are now in moscow , they have thought about it and you think that they have already thought about it. and what is their mission in

world of the 21st century, they really wanted to become a global player as well, but with the current size of the russian economy, with the fact that as a result of the departure of western companies, there are more than 600 there. until 10 million jobs, now remember how many people there are in russia and what the labor market is like there and what kind of blow will be dealt there and now with every quarter the russian economy will fall more and more well in the fourth quarter many people count there from 12 to 20%. imagine a real fall, that's why putin doesn't knock on the door there, and he knocks, of course, not on the official door, but under the table through secret channels and says well, let 's show him today. a couple of days ago. well

, i don't remember when exactly he said that oh no the west does not make concessions to us, and that is exactly what i am quoting him literally, and in russia they are already thinking more and more about how stable the russian economy will be in general, of course, you can send oil to china and india at a discount, but if the west succeeds in making a plan to restrict prices for russian oil well, if there was a cost plus there , i don't know, there is 10-15 dollars on top. it would actually be very, very cool. and it would kill all the money they are collecting there for the war like the middle ages and what the americans are doing now agreed the supply of weapons, and on a large scale from saudi arabia and the emirates, naturally

inspires me there. i heard various positive rumors about the fact that after all saudi arabia and the gulf countries in general can play more on the side of the civilized world, but in the near future we will see how for me the end of the year here is so important and significant, because by the end of the year , in december, the european union can and should in fact introduce a ban on the insurance of tanks that will transport russian oil. and this immediately means who will transport russian oil then, now greek companies and some others earn this dirty money on russian oil and then he will not succeed and they will have a date , then the game will actually be completely different, friends, we are

working live with a politician visiting us diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019 pavlo klinikin please leave your comments under our stream in social networks on youtube and also on facebook, please click the like under this video so that it the video was trending on youtube, and mr. pavla was trending on facebook on the day when sawdust flew to taiwan, the united states of america announced another round of sanctions against russians, the list included 893 people, including members of the federation council and the military. according to the state department , sanctions have also been introduced against alina kabaeva, who is called the common-law wife of vladimir putin , does this mean that washington has decided to act much less often than it was dote to show

russia itself and the place because not until this moment washington refrained from personal sanctions against people related to vladimir putin , that is to say about alina kabaeva, well, you see that here it is exactly the opposite, as a rule, the americans go first with some kind of sanctions, well, sometimes beatings in this sense were originally beatings but then there was the european union - it's actually not trivial, we all waited for the united states to join and finally, as they say, in our country there is no formal confirmation of the personal connections of kabaeva with vladimir putin, but kabaeva can be trusted under sanctions or the fact that she manages

state-funded media holdings there, the students know how she and we manage there and whether in reality she manages, well. but nevertheless, this is also a landmark decision of the united states. well, it is clear that these sanctions will be introduced and will operate at the same time in russia the azov regiment is recognized as a terrorist organization, at the same time the leadership of the azov regiment showed that it appealed to the united states of america to recognize russia as a terrorist state, we know that there is currently a discussion about whether to recognize the russian federation as a country that sponsors terrorism maria zakharova from the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation says that if this happens, it will put an end to the diplomatic relations between russia and the united states of america

. russia lives according to the world order invented in the usa, based on the right-wing naïves, and somehow it is forgotten that any action creates counteractions and, uh , the logical result such an irresponsible step can lead to the breaking of diplomatic relations, after which washington risks finally crossing the point of no return with all the ensuing consequences. and what will happen to mr. pavla if diplomatic relations between russia and the united states of america are broken, well, look, we mentioned the decision of the russian court regarding the azov people on political

anon. sorry damn, but how will they conduct these processes regarding the boys who are now prisoners ? did more than they are doing now all these ions of the red cross e-e well, here is a total disappointment in all of us, both emotional and any moral in relation to their e-e ability and in general, perseverance here needs to be done 150 times more, if not a thousand e-e regarding the status of a terrorist state, we have now heard the position of the russian foreign ministry, they say that they don't care, and then they say that they will develop diplomatic relations, they don't care at all, i'll tell you on my fingers now, since this is

still a decision, it they were not talking about something er labels, this decision is absolutely serious, in fact , with international law today there is no single common definition of terrorism and the main state of terrorism, there are different er solutions there is a convention on the prohibition of financing terrorism and in 2015 one of our lawsuits is the un international court of justice this is precisely about the ban on the financing of terrorism. unfortunately, international law through people's courts is very, very long and it has been going on for 8 years, as you can see, but i am sure that we could win this lawsuit. but as a result of this lawsuit, we we must receive not only compensation, but also

restrictions on russian rights, including in international organizations, including i hope that with regard to the vote, i do not know whether it is there in the security council or there in other e-e international forums, but this should be our key goal for these international the right to limit russia, er, american legislation has its own definition , it is sufficiently detailed, legally elaborated , since all terrorists have already been caught there, russia perfectly understands that this is not only a political blow, er, it is not only a special strike well, after all, putin does not want to be the president of a terrorist state and they understand perfectly well if they are recognized as such . in general, they are soldered there, it is not that they are not a world player

. and in general, it is unknown, unknown where, and no one can give them a hand anymore, and by the way, this will affect also not the western world. well, who will lend a hand to those who are actually recognized as terrorists even only in the united states, but also this will greatly affect any trade, this will also affect virtually any ties, in fact they will stop and will this russia is like some medieval islands on the world map and that's why in russia they are grasping for what they are there for, what else they are grasping for, it is already theirs and i have the impression that the americans will think, er, under what conditions to do this they are gradually moving towards this, so they don't want to cut off the last

possibilities of at least some kind of official communication with russia, and this applies to diplomatic relations there, it does not apply to anything else - it applies to any kind of communication in general. needed well for example, for the strategic control of nuclear weapons, for critical communication there in the event of a threat, er, this can 100% occur, and i do not rule out that a situation like the caribbean crisis, of course, in a different format, may occur in the near future, or in relation to nuclear weapons, it will be in relation to chemical weapons. in fact, in the united states, they also think that it is a lack of political will there, and that ah, so they are not terrorists, are they terrorists? yes, of course , terrorists simply calculate the consequences, both

political and not only political, but there are consequences otherwise it would not be so critical for russia and you have just heard this, uh, this russian position, which, as i understand it, is written very, very carefully and in detail in moscow, they say that a hybrid military campaign has been unleashed against russia. this is what they are talking about at the conference on the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, the kremlin also speaks through the mouths of its representatives about the situation that may arise and when there will be a direct conflict between nuclear states , they have already simply started blackmailing the united states of america, and the result of this blackmail is what should happen that is, they expect that in some way washington will begin to back down from its positions, that the

united states of america will begin to provide less weapons to ukraine, so that they recognize that ukraine is a sphere of interests and a sphere of influence of the russian federation, that is, there is some logic and some explanation is normal in this blackmail and in threats that there will be a conflict between nuclear states. and this means a nuclear war in the world, of course there is russian logic, it does not fit into any civilized head, but this is the logic of blackmail. let's talk under our conditions, let's reach a compromise, they understand very well that sanctions destroy them, they understand very well that they cannot get all of ukraine, that's why they say to the americans, well, if so, let's divide ukraine absolutely cynically, well, this is only the russian mentality - the

conditional part of ukraine allows us we make a neutral part of it as a neutral buffer, we want to talk about it, and they want to talk about it, and they are blackmailing about it, this is exactly the position that russia currently has in all these uh-uh endless uh-uh secret channels for a reason many people go to russia, the last people there are the latitude , so this was publicly, that is, absolutely such an ugly, cynical position, which one they are blackmailing the west here, everything is just schrüder, who visited moscow, and moscow has already confirmed the fact of negotiations with the russian leadership in an interview in an interview shternu and r eh ntv announced on wednesday that the russian war in ukraine - this is a mistake of the russian government, but the good news is that the kremlin wants to solve everything at the negotiating table, says the width, today there is information that

the kremlin says that russia is ready for peace talks regarding the resolution of the conflict in ukraine on its terms and emphasizes on its terms, which are well known, i.e. during the last two weeks , we see both lavrov and schrüder and some sources in the kremlin who comment on the situation to russian propagandists say that they are ready for peace negotiations, but on their terms here. the question is, what are their terms and where did these terms stop, because we know that there was a negotiation process after the great invasion until the summer month in istanbul some negotiations were held, then russia said, in general, we will monitor what the ukrainians will say, we will protect them, especially in the southern regions, counting on the fact that

pseudo-referendums will be held there in vere in august and september, meaning in the occupied part of the kherson region and in some areas of zaporizhzhya oblasts, the kremlin wants peace talks , it doesn’t want peace talks, it wants negotiations in order to achieve its goals as a result, and the goals it keeps are just that i counted them, they have not changed at all well, maybe once again count this part of ukraine, make a part for yourself as some kind of unrealistic buffer, er, limit our armed forces, as it were, saying that there is a threat to russia from our territory. i have only a simple question. i see a threat from the territory of russia from this regime . then we will limit it, and this very issue is the key, everything that clings to it and is tangential

, or they say and let's recognize by whom, let's recognize donbas in some form, it's all the same conditions, they are decided by you, they will be now try to impose conditions regarding the south, but as a result they were clearly told that you can leave all your conditions to write some papers in moscow. but on these conditions, no, i will not really do anything. we understand very well that the situation will be resolved on the battlefield, on the fronts, the americans say so, the europeans say so, this is our belief, and also this is our understanding that we must continue to maintain the stability of our society and our economy, but even after a

possible ceasefire, i consciously say ceasefire, because i do not believe in a peaceful agreement with this border at all, so it cannot be, er, they will always be interested in the destruction of ukraine anyway , so the question arises. and what will we have in order to er, repel any atek on the part of this regime, therefore, in terms of content, these conditions have not changed at all, and in the heads of the russian establishment there , the russian political party in putin’s head, absolutely nothing has changed here either, they say, we want to end it there we want to end it with negotiations on our terms, they say no, goodbye you that's all you have already lost this war strategically, and the further you take it is what the

americans and europeans are trying to explain to them, the more you lose, the more we lose economically, the more we lose politically, the less you are respected in this world and there will be some when it comes regardless of the propaganda in the heads of er well, there is still more or less er of such an er part of russians who are at least somehow capable of thinking by the way, in russia, as in china, all uprisings began with some kind of economic situation, there they are not afraid of freedom. in fact, no one needs freedom there, that's why russia really wants to solve this issue, but on its own terms, and that's what he said, what he was looking at, what he was told in moscow and this is

what he conveyed in berlin at the end of our program, mr. pavlo, i will ask you about uh, how will this confrontation between russia and the united states of america end, because over the course of 100 years, we have observed different periods in the relations between the then ussr, later russia and the united states of america. you have already mentioned the caribbean crisis, when the world was on the brink of war, in your opinion, will it still be possible, in the current situation and at the current stage, to lower the degree of general tension in the world, in washington, there are masks on - firstly , this confrontation is no longer between the states and russia, but between the entire civilized west and russia, secondly, the degree can really change, it can increase, it can decrease, but today the

majority of poeton people in the west understand that this russia is a threat not only to us, to ukraine, to the ukrainian nation, to the entire west, and if they are not stopped, they will continue to do so, if china is not stopped there in taiwan, china will continue only in a different way, and with this russia, there are already some kind of civilized relations it can't be like that somewhere in berlin or in paris, someone in their head somewhere deep still dreams of some uh post-war more or less normal relations with this russia in quotes but i think it won't be like that and i generally think that the last empire, it does not make sense in the 21st century century, well, since the 1st century - it's not about the empire, it's about the people, the international system itself, as

putin likes it very much, sovereign countries where you can do anything and as lukashenko likes it, where you can do anything in your belarusian collective farm, it is gradually coming to an end this does not mean that it will happen tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, we are not naive. but nevertheless, such a system is a fundamental threat to the whole world, which means that this system is not permanent, and someday it will definitely cease to exist in this the world there will be a west in this world, there will be an east. but nevertheless , countries with a level of six and i invented my goals in order to exist so that they cannot exist because they do not exist for people and for the past they have no chance on this optimistic note, we will put an end to it in our conversation, such

empires should not exist. this was pavlo klimkin , politician-diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019. thank you, mr. pavlo, for the conversation. of the espresso news channel and the espresso euro program for ukrainian refugees in europe, a joint broadcast with the atp channel, radio svoboda programs , voice of america time-time programs, the inclusion of journalists from public television, bbc news ukraine and franz 24 news programs, as well as the broadcast of the informational marathon, the only news, together we are strength, glory to ukraine we are looking for four children with a

large family of dmitrenko, who were lost on the night of march 12. 14-year-old diana , 12-year-old timofey, eight-year-old etori and five-year-old demir. they all disappeared in mariupol together with his father. and for four months nothing is known about their fate . i was told the amazing story of the dmytronik family by the grandmother of the missing children, who also lived in mariupol. only by a miracle did i manage to get out of there with my civil husband. leaving on march 31, we fired shells. and the neighbors rushed at us and said, “where are you going? i would sit silently in the basement.” and we said, “we ca n’t stay in the basement any longer.

bombed, tetyana stepanivna is now in vinnytsia and says that she learned about the tragedy that happened to her family here, because there was simply no communication in mariupol. and she had no way to reach her son under the shelling. he, together with his wife and six children, lived separately in a high-rise building on troitskaya street 51, moreover, his wife was pregnant and was about to give birth, so there was no talk of evacuation on february 26, and her husband took her from the hospital and said, "where are you going, i'll give you shells?" there was no normal communication, it is already known that when the wife and the baby were discharged from the maternity hospital , the large family of the dmytroniks decided to stay in the city for a while during the shelling, everyone hid in the basement, and on the night of march 12 it was more or less

calm, so the wife and children decided to leave to the storeroom on his floor, and my father made his bed in the corridor in the corridor in our corridor in the room in the big apartment, he laid another light one himself and everything flowed to him, he went alone without dad, dad couldn’t leave, in the end, four children pulled timofey etori and dimir stayed with their father in the apartment. and three more hid with their mother in the storeroom, and on this very night at four in the morning, a shell hit the house of the dmitrenka family, a powerful explosion rang out in the apartment. help zhenya lost consciousness dad and her husband lost consciousness and she lost her desire too lost on the street already when they lowered her from the 9th floor to the first one she was already her

own creation came when the children were in the car soon help drunkenly took the belt and they they still remained in the apartment, the mother and the three most injured children were taken to the hospital, the little one was in a serious condition, but now everything is fine with them. but the fate of the father and four more children drags timofia etor and dimyr, who remained in the apartment now and it is unknown, the national police started contacting immediately they said that the lists of the dead are not there, our mariupol police also said they are not on the lists , please help me look for them, i am asking especially the residents of occupied mariupol, who may now see me on social networks, take a close look at photo of the children: 14-year-old diana, 12-year-old timofey , eight-year-old etori and five-year-old dimir lived at 51 troitska street, that's where they were last seen.

if anyone knows where they might be now, don't hesitate to call us at the magnolia children's search service at the short number 116 000 from any mobile phone, calls are free or write to the chat bot service of the search for children in telegram, any information is important, this is only one story of a missing child in general since the beginning of the war . fortunately, we received more than a thousand requests for help in the search most of the children have already been found, but the fate of many remains unknown, especially in the temporarily occupied territories, where the work of the police is virtually paralyzed