and where scenarios change very quickly and dramatically. that is why you need to be ready for anything just in case. look, the national bank of ukraine printed 255 billion uah at the beginning of the war. in fact, this is the same printing press that we have to talk about repeatedly. we have the right amount of help from our partners and in order to cover the mandatory payments and we only spend about 130 billion a month on the war, we definitely need hmm at the expense of something to look for that money and the national bank actually buys war bonds from the ministry of finance, e-e. in this way, sending funds to the state budget is definitely not good. it is a driver of inflation, it is a lowering of levels, but during wartime, this is, unfortunately, no e-e way

to close the deficit budget, that is, we will still have great hope that our partners will give us the necessary amount of funds so that the national bank of ukraine does not include the printing press . sell to survive if you have them. and if you don’t have them, it’s already sad, poor thing, it’s cold, and so on. we have such and such realities. thank you for the conversation and for the forecasts. oleg penzin, the economist, was with us, and we will continue the watermelon topic a little more. now we will ask what is going on with the kherson columns in the kherson region to the adviser to the mayor of kherson - this is a novel, the main one, we congratulate you mr. roman good day , have you tried kherson watermelons, well, to be honest , this year i only tried kherson tomatoes, they are very tasty, which through the evacuation corridors of kherson people

they transported watermelons to zaporizhzhia, unfortunately, i did not try them . well, i hope. i am sure that in the near future we will be able to taste them. well, that is true. this is a question that is also er-er over which only the armed forces of ukraine are under investigation and i do not know, lord god er-er p roman actually, they say that now the enemy is transferring the main forces of three russian armies in particular to kherson, and various military analysts write that a wise decision for the russians would be to simply withdraw from kherson, because they do not have a very advantageous position there from the military point of view, but i am i understand that it will be for them here for them this is an unacceptable thing ah what why is it so important for them kherson on yours well, indeed, residents of kherson oblast confirm the significant movement of

equipment in kherson oblast to the right bank of kherson oblast and on the other side of the dnieper, this is the first the second is, well, from a tactical point of view, from a military point of view, it is probably really, well, the correct military decision is to leave this bridgehead on the right bank and move to the left, many experts note this, but from a political point of view, it is extremely of the occupiers, this is not an unpleasant step, because in fact the city of kherson is the only regional center oh, which today they took under occupation and under their control and eh well, looking at those statements in the past , there is kyiv in three days, and odesa-nikolaev is there and they buy all of ukraine there and go to the english channel in a week. in fact, from this point of view, losing kherson is a big political and

image loss for the leaders in moscow and they they are trying with all their might to prevent this because the battle for kherson and ours in this battle is this in fact, the beginning of the end of this war, and of the russian federation as an aggressor in general. tell us a little about the situation in kherson oblast. in kherson, the military increased, how they behaved. local people . remained in the occupied territory, it suffers from the aggression of the pressure exerted by the russian military occupation forces on this population, but they actually feel skazhem yes, pre-panic, panic-like actions, and they have the most negative impact on the peaceful

population, starting with filtering actions and, er, checks. anything and everything is broken into apartments, housing, garages, er, on the street , men are simply undressed, no, they are beaten several times it is possible even through roadblocks, there are such cases when passing by, men are uh searched and ending with uh um let’s say this, trying to listen and serve in front of their masters in moscow , they carry out such actions there uh for washing, for example hryvnias and the last funds that are left with pensioners, type for entrepreneurs, for the same pensioners from socially vulnerable strata, in order for them to receive passports, e-e, aid in rubles, humanitarian aid, despite the fact that people do not want it, that is, today, e-e, residents of the kherson region e

they suffer a lot from this occupation, and you can say in direct text that this is terror and genocide of the local population, using it for your own interests and purposes, and if you can even get closer or look at it from from the point of view of what was said that someone is going to release someone, then we can clearly see what kind of devastation, what kind of aggression and what kind of death is being carried by the russian federation today by the catherines of ukraine and in particular the kherson region, well, i will ask romanovych something like that yesterday it became known that the cabinet of ministers appointed yaroslav yanushevich to the post of the kherson regional state administration, and the mirror of the week reminds us that this official of yanukovych's time was subject to and was prosecuted under the law on lustration, and in particular

, they also write about his close ties at least once with the former prime minister mykola azarov, who is an emigrant, now he can politically say so in russia. well, simply. is there any reasonable explanation why yaroslav yanushevich is now the head of the kherson regional state administration? well, to be honest, i myself have information from available sources of mass media and e- e well, unfortunately or fortunately, i did not influence the appointment of such er, well , positions er, positions in er, i knew everything and therefore if it was difficult for me to comment on something in this situation well, there the decision is made er i understand that well people are appointed to the president's office, and our task today is to work to help people, to evacuate them, to provide them with humanitarian aid

and support in the controlled territory, we are engaged in this, and we have appointed a manager, we will work. well, time will tell by the results of the evacuation. as you have already written a little about how they terrorize local local people, for sure, well, that is, they are officially. somehow, you somehow offer some kind of transport, some ways this is happening, uh, so from now on, well, let’s call it that, let’s say the demand or request for the evacuation of the population has increased significantly, and it’s precisely from ours with the active actions of our defenders, eh. it has intensified today . there are about 23,000

people who, let's say, signed up and want to leave the controlled territory from the occupied territory, this is the first huge queues, now on the only way out, this is the village of vasylivka , zaporizhzhia region, in the direction of zaporizhzhia, because in fact, this is the only exit, and about 1,500 cars, which are fixed in zaporizhzhia, go there every day, up to a thousand people from kherson leave every day. well, from 700 to a thousand people from kherson every day, even to the controlled territory , that is, this traffic is people want to leave, but taking into account the difficulties that exist, he outlined the only way to leave and, well, again, there was little availability because we organize free evacuation as best we can on our own, but there are free buses, but it is very difficult to satisfy your huge demand, and well

many people in such a difficult situation are standing in queues today to leave the controlled territory and want to leave as soon as possible. now we also see information that satellite images show that the russian military has begun to make a ferry crossing and transport equipment near kherson. that's it the second is such a cross-crossing-crossing and in fact yes and in fact they are also transferring forces to the right bank of the dnieper replenishing their formations a-a the occupiers but at the same time this information that is again er-er accurate a powerful strike in the kherson region against the concentration of e-e russian troops and manpower active combat operations continue n romane is e-e kyrylo budanov e head of the e-e main directorate of

ukrainian intelligence says that the second half of august will be the time of such a ukrainian counter-offensive in the kherson region direction, how will they turn out, what does this mean for you, how to get to kherson, how to get to the city mayor's adviser, treatment for the liberation of our territories, returning home. of course, this also entails certain difficulties and necessity our readiness for when kherson will be liberated , so that we act correctly and in time according to the situation that it will be, because today the occupiers have effectively nullified the work of managing the economy of the city in general and it has been violated in many cases uh, well, infrastructure is necessary and that ensures the vital activity of

the city, and of course, all this will need to be restored, we understand that there will be fights, it’s just that, the occupiers will not retreat, that’s why for us, this is the number one issue of readiness from the point of view of in order to restore the life of the city as much as possible and to ensure that the residents do not suffer as little as possible today from what was and will be possible in the city, first of all, as regards the violation of important for life e infrastructure objects if we talk about e-e object that is important for the city e-e antonivskyi reads that the occupiers are already trying to patch something there, how much it has ruined their lives and how much they have advanced in the repair work, well, you understand the pontoon crossings and there

repair work on the bridge, well, it's more visibility and self-reassurance for them, well, the visibility of the work, they report to the management, they reassure themselves that everything will be fine, we will not fix it, we will transport the equipment. but as our armed forces noted, these objects are under fire control of our armed forces and e well, at any moment, let's say that it is possible to return to that situation, regardless of whether there will be repairs or not, to the one that was after the bridge was damaged. it can be done, it will be done in the necessary case, the same applies to the pontoon crossings that run next to the antonov bridge, so uh, well, this is an imitation of the activity of reassuring the population that we take care of you there, we will arrange the right for you, uh, well, no more than that at any time -what

is the moment of our armed forces, well, if necessary, this communication route will be cut off. well, actually, what is happening now in the kherson region in the sense of also, well, the kypianivs wrote that some of the partially occupied regions in 1,400 applicants submitted applications actually to who studied are under occupation, that is, where there are collaborators, in fact, and i thought that 1,400 is certainly not a lot for the region. it is certainly not a lot. but nevertheless, there are certainly such people , and this all prompts me to ask what is the matter in the kherson region, where is it, to what extent is this also a problem with collaborators, do we remember all of them, we know and we will not forget the first ones

and the number of applications, it is difficult and almost unrealistic to check the only thing that he i think it is worth assuming and it is necessary to assume that the occupiers know are overestimated in order to show that , first of all, the collaborators who went to cooperate and organize work in the occupied territories to show that they are doing some work from their side. so, uh, they provide the school year of admission there and there is some kind of commitment from population, it really goes to cooperation, so at least there it is necessary to divide it by 10. so, this figure will be somewhere close to some reality, that is, in the store, in fact, young people simply do not submit documents. now in the occupied territories, those who are there well, of course, now, there

are many opportunities for admission to ukrainian universities, and not necessarily even. well, those who did not have the opportunity to move to the controlled territory, there are many, especially young people there. i am constantly a witness to how they leave. and recently there was a case of a girl, we all helped her, she was taking an intramural exam, she needed to leave, she left, she withdrew, she entered a university, so if they were to leave, well , we all try together to get out of this situation like her as for the collaborators, there is clearly such a large layer of collaborators who at one time were not famous for any decency and integrity in terms of human relations and their work in relation to the population and the

territory they managed or made decisions , they are all well-known today. so, as far as i know, the special services do their work, the population does its own work, those military guys, who are natives and know everyone well, also remember and record this information, etc. well, no one does will definitely be forgotten, and even today, the trend. i can already see that many of those who somehow tried to cooperate or somehow play along with the occupying authorities and troops are already moving to the territory under our control , actually surrendering to our special services in order to simply stay alive and understand that there is no prospect of cooperation with the russian federation on the territory of kherson oblast well, there is not and cannot be at all thank you very much roman

, the chief adviser to the mayor of kherson was with us eh, then we will talk again about the situation in the south ivan kyrychevskyi, but already more from such a military point of view, the experts of defense express are with us, we congratulate mr. ivan. good day, why did the russians suddenly decide to transfer their forces to zaporozhye and kherson? to report that at least something. and it seems, believe me, they know how to do something like this from there, even judging by this fayholom news about the fact that there are open spaces, for example, they covered the heimers on the second floor somewhere in the kharkiv building. here it arises it's just a different situation, the russians obviously feel everything that they know, so to speak, at all levels there and at the level of

intuition and analysis. zaporizhzhia, well, accordingly, is the kryvyi rih region, so they just decided to transfer the tests of the unit from the east to the south. there it even went to the point that they began to transfer from the east not only personnel units, but the so-called the first, the second, the army corps. well, for example, puppet excavations, for example, in the temporarily occupied donbas, it is interesting for them, it is extremely important, in fact, to repulse a counteroffensive , a probable uh , in the direction of kherson. even there he already names some dates, by the way, this contrasts with what journalists and experts in particular are called not to do, for example, in the southern operational command

there is a double story going on, as if you are commenting on this one, well, you know me. if we talk about the fact that she herself gave advice to the opposing command in the south, after all, the obvious advice was related to some specific front-line episodes . i ate and where are there that 1,000 russian soldiers were standing there, they say, you could take them into an apartment, it would be more logical to first take a patel and then announce that hurrah we have the opportunity to replenish the exchange fund, a recommendation is possible operative command of the south applied this very thing. what about the fact that we made some statements there , representatives of our military and political leadership, well, it looks like they are behind there to try to beat down the wave of kremlin propaganda. they also said that we will take the territory in september through the mechanism of referendums of hidden or overt annexation . well, when the russians began to promote, accordingly

, it was necessary to make a statement through the relevant representatives of the military leadership there, such as the falconer of hormones or the president himself. er, the armed forces of ukraine are conducting counter-offensive actions with the aim of starting the week of ukraine, especially here you can even accumulate such an amendment. that the russians are throwing such troops from the east to the south not in order to interfere only with a practical counter-attack there, but rather now with those who are standing the question is simply to slow down the pace of our counteroffensive, which has not yet passed , there are still some fire missions at the feet of the russian troops at the warehouses, there are some local battles with the aim of driving out the russians there, taken separately, well, it all just represents such an orchestra, which is what you and i call such counter-offensive actions, that is, the russians are trying to sneak up on what they are doing, and that is what it is called,

mr. schröder, the former chancellor of germany, went to rest in moscow and at the same time talked with putin and conveyed such er, from him, er, some hints that maybe some kind of negotiations should start, er, it is true that mr. schedra is criticized by his compatriots for this, but er, these negotiations, on the one hand, here rockets are released for 100 million dollars in one day, from the other side , forces are thrown from the other side, and from the other side, from the third side, they hint at some negotiations, where here, of course, i can skip such there logic and the kremlin. who who? but you see that russia is ready for a long-term war after a protracted war. russia is such a besieged fortress that has an economic margin

of safety for europe and ukraine, but the reality is that russia is the first place. she's not ready for a protracted war, she's just there , you're pulling out some of your last reserves in order to, you know, try to win the campaign to your advantage, at least there in the next two months , what's next? that, for example, there is some territory about what to pay off with the russian reverse or there is an exchange, exchanging the russian hand there for some necessary currencies, or with schematics, e. including defense purchases, again, as this time the russians have already allowed kharkiv to be supported, they even have mayskanders for such strikes, and turn to the s300 missiles, which will already be our part to kill, this also means that the kremlin is running out of resources, where the war will continue,

according to the judge ecologically what is it like in our midst such a sheder then they try to show submission who gave it to you? well, in order not to really read it, was it just one time to bend the negotiations, you know, psychologically what taras er, except for the one that you know from someone there, you know what is authoritative, who you know, even from all the posts in germany, they chased them and gave them. well , once again, once again, russia is having trouble in the background , and they are starting to do so. this is the kind of premium. that's exactly what i will ask for. something everything let's say that ukraine is yes. by the way, what if you can buy yourself the maximum amount of success that you can have here on the field, i am afraid of the perception of ukraine with weapons and just when the russians will surround it finally because it turns out what is the situation that they also live in zaporizhzhia in the direction of kryvyi rih, in the direction of kherson

, additional troops and maybe only four bridges over the dnieper, they are more intact, to put it mildly, there have not been any new strikes with gold, that is, the russians are leading themselves into such a strategic trap. well, you know, sports here, after a while, you know , they will literally study about what will be the negotiations for them when they are already well, it is already this, perhaps then the war as it is the emergence of some there field in order to start directly there to restore actually yes with them some negotiations although of course the question is whether it will be possible in what format these negotiations will continue even after the reindeer, sir, there is a little time left antonio gutierrez again spoke about the fact that the world is literally one step away from a nuclear war and once again fears are being voiced that if russia still undergoes a serious collapse, it will lose kherson for example, they can use their last trump - this is the use of nuclear weapons in ukraine, and from time to time, well, time and time again,

all kinds of such delusions are heard in their, for example, television e-e, what is it called about the brainwashing of laundromats, well, you know. if it were possible, the answer here could be constructed like this. when next time our dear journalists will construct a message that russia will shoot down some cruise missiles there, the cost of which is 50 million dollars , you can also add that russia has already shot down several dozens of clean and cruise missiles there missiles or ballistic missiles that could deliver a nuclear warhead here at all, all the more so since russia got rid of the cruise missiles, then there are literally fewer carriers, at least here you know how to throw a nuclear bomb and you. this is the circumstance that makes it stupid. well, it makes sense. nuclear blackmail of the cooking phase of the other side. well, if from one side, as he showed. well, you know, the yudzls organization. well, the question is what does it not affect. the usa is also initiating

negotiations on a long variation of the agreement on the limitation of strategic offensive weapons, which should be signed there in 1026. it turns out that with such hyped statements, what if they liberate kherson, then the first can use nuclear you are pointing the weapon in a specific way, but he is trying to somehow regain status, you know, influence in the world . well, nothing else can be achieved with such statements or. it seems to me that this fervor regarding a nuclear strike is somewhere there in may, it was in the air, especially until the ninth of may and then everyone somehow accepted it, well, people are starting to get used to that war, to that news, even to us , germany has already managed to install radiochemical protection equipment, that is, everyone is ready, to put it mildly, but someone still continues to scare people there

with a nuclear strike purely to achieve one's own political goals. well, finally, i'll ask, actually, from what i've seen recently, there are a lot of pictures, somewhere from the front, from the front line, where i see more and more western small arms in our... of the military there, in particular, there in the landing assault groups ah-ah, we somehow never talk about this aspect, how important this is, why are there more such small arms, are there enough nominal ammunition for them and all kinds of other equipment? well, actually, you know, it is like small arms alone is a topic on which you know, well, it does not attract much attention, so you know, if it somehow went unnoticed until this moment, but it is possible to achieve such a reduction without supplies of small arms from our western partners, the usa, that means the countries of eastern europe, then we wouldn't be able to mobilize the army then 140,000 people in

the literal center, it's not just some western assault rifles there, there are czech copies of kalashnikov assault rifles, filter stoves, technical equipment, you have, you know, just that of course, now calculate it's difficult because many countries that give us small arms, they don't show it like the number of tables purchased, they just show it, we bought one, and even britain bought five german copies of the kalashnikov assault rifle to train our elementary students, and also if it doesn't totalize, it just showed here we bought a weapon, it’s convenient for you, and you told the quantity, that is, how is it, tell me when it will be, how is it, it’s time to talk about it in more detail, it turned out that even this kind a fact that helped to deploy the armed forces of ukraine to such a number that for enough

physical persons to europe about the threshold. despite the fact that the war is not over and the victory has not yet been declared, but the number of those ukrainians who want to leave the country somewhere outside the country is not going to run away, they have even adapted a little to war and start entrepreneurship, yes, and now we are passing the words, actually, to the news, the next news release with iryna koval is good , iryna. then, thank you to my colleagues in this issue about aid to ukraine and new sanctions against russia and many other things 17th in ukraine time of news on the espresso tv channel greetings in the studio of iryna koval in the afternoon the enemy covered fire twice kryvorizka district

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