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china is not and china's position does not determine putin's position. you and i never know for sure what putin and xi jinping talked about on the eve of the olympics in beijing . this is how she affects russia. this is how she affects lukashenka. by the way, she is funny, yes, i would say it is bad to hear lukashenko. will determine the rules in his car, that's fine, but it seems more and more that putin is fed up with this conductor and he wants to change him in this car, and there are no
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chinese here. probably one of the best guarantees of security is that lukashenka remains in power and he is trying very actively to play this guarantee now china's interest in belarus was that it would be present between russia and europe as they believed in such a small town, remember me once there 25 years ago, i heard this concept in relation to ukraine, someone tried to repeat it constantly between china and europe. well, i really wanted to say what you said , that everything is turning into the fact that today's russian territory is turning into electricity, or
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there are small towns, dams, students know how it is will be there from the point of view of geography, misha, europe and china , today's world is developing in such a way that, you know, the yin-yang was the western world and the asian world, so russia, uh, it is not actually western in terms of mentality. and no it is eastern, it is post-ordinian, and no one in this world needs it in such a reality, because those who are now in moscow have thought about it, and i think they have already thought about what their mission in the world of the 21st century they would really like to become also a world player, but with today's size of the russian economy, with the fact that as a result of the departure of western companies, there is more here and there. and if this
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happens every quarter, the russian economy will fall more and more. well, in the fourth quarter, many people count there from 12 to 20%. just imagine the real downfall is that putin knocks on the door there , and he knocks, of course, not on the official door, but under the table or standing channels and says well, let's negotiate somehow, only negotiate on some compromise terms, and the west therefore says no, well, first of all, the united states but also europeans, have you heard it officially, no, no, no, putin is negotiating on some uh, putin's terms, in fact, no one will do that, and lavrov, whom you showed today, was a couple of days ago . does not make concessions on what exactly. this is how i literally quote him, and in russia, in principle, they are already
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thinking more and more about how stable the russian economy will be in general. of course, you can send oil to china and india at a discount, but if the west succeeds in making a plan to restrict prices for russian oil well, if there was a cost plus there, i don't know it, there is 10-15 dollars on top. it would actually be very, very cool. and it would be great to see all the money they are collecting there for the war like the middle ages and what the americans are doing now agreed to supply the sbu, and on a large scale with saudi arabia and the emirates, of course i am inspired there. i heard various positive rumors that after all, saudi arabia and the gulf countries in general can play more on the side of the civilized world, but in the near future we will
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see how for for me, the end of the year is so important here, because by the end of the year , in december, the european union can and should actually introduce a ban on the insurance of tanks that will transport russian oil. and this immediately means who will transport russian oil then, now greek companies and some others earn this dirty money on russian oil and then he will not succeed and it will be good for them , but then the game will actually be completely different, friends, we work live in our country visiting politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019 pavlo klinikin, please leave your comments under our stream in social
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networks on youtube and also on facebook. the video was trending on youtube, and mr. pavla was trending on facebook on the day when sawdust flew to taiwan, the united states of america announced another round of sanctions against russians, the list included 893 people, including members of the federation council and the military. according to the state department , sanctions have also been introduced against alina kabaeva, who is called the common-law wife of vladimir putin , does this mean that washington has decided to act much less often than it was dote to show russia itself and the place because not until this moment washington refrained from personal sanctions against people related to vladimir putin
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, meaning about alina kabaeva. you see that here it is exactly the opposite. as a rule, the americans go first with some stations. well , sometimes beatings in this sense were first beatings. but then there were the european union is actually non-trivial, we were all waiting for the united states to join and here it is finally, as they say , there is no formal confirmation of kabaeva's personal ties with vladimir putin, but kabaeva can be put under sanctions or the fact that she manages media holdings with state funding, the students know how she does not manage there and whether in reality she manages, but nevertheless, this is also a landmark decision of the united states. well, it is clear
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that these sanctions will be implemented and will work at the same time, in russia, the azov regiment was recognized as a terrorist organization, at the same time, the leadership of the azov regiment showed that it appealed to the united states of america to recognize russia as a terrorist state, we know that now there is a discussion about whether to recognize the russian federation as a sponsor of terrorism maria zakharova from the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation says that if this happens, it will put an end to the diplomatic relations between russia and the united states of america, we will hear zakharova's no-no of substantive legislation that contradicts international law , possibly seen by the senator and congressman as there is no terrible punishment capable of forcing russia to live
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according to the world order invented in the usa, based on the right-wing, naïve, and somehow it is forgotten that any action creates countermeasures, and the logical result of such an irresponsible step may be a rupture in diplomatic relations, after which washington risks finally crossing the point of no return with all the ensuing consequences. and what will happen to mr. pavla if diplomatic relations between russia and the united states of america are broken ? of the russian court regarding the azov citizens on a political anon sorry for the ass but how will they conduct these trials regarding the boys who are now prisoners of course it can can influence and here it is very important that uh and
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international organizations did more than they are doing now all these ions of the red cross it is necessary to do 150 times more, if not a thousand times, with regard to the status of a terrorist state, we have now heard the position of the russian foreign ministry, they say that they do not care, and then they say that they will develop diplomatic relations, they do not care at all, i am on my toes now i'll tell you, since this is still a decision, it 's not about some labels, this decision is absolutely serious, in fact, with international law
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today, there is no common common definition of terrorism, and the main thing is that the state of terrorism is different the decision is the convention on the prohibition of the financing of terrorism, and in 2015 one of our lawsuits at the un international court of justice is precisely about the prohibition of the financing of terrorism. it is not a pity that international law through people's courts has been going on for a very, very long time. as you can see, it has been 8 years, but i i am sure that we could win this lawsuit. but as a result of this lawsuit, we should receive not only compensation, but also restrictions on russian rights, including in international organizations , including. e international forums, but this should be our key
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goal according to these international laws to limit russia , uh, american legislation has its own definition, it is sufficiently detailed, legally worked out, since all terrorists have already been caught there, russia perfectly understands that this is not only a political attack on her is not only a special attack. well, after all, putin does not want to be the president of a terrorist state, and they understand perfectly well if they are recognized as such . in general, it is not that they are not a global player . no one can help them anymore, and by the way, it will not affect the western world either. well, who will lend a hand to those who are actually recognized as terrorists, even only in the
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united states, but it will also greatly affect any trade, it will also affect, in fact, any ties, in fact, they will stop and this russia will be some kind of medieval island on the world map, and that's why in russia they are grasping for what they are there for, what else they are grasping for there, it's already theirs and i have it for today that's it the impression is that the americans will think under what conditions to do this, they are gradually moving towards this, so they do not want to take away the last possibilities of at least some kind of official communication with russia , and this applies to diplomatic relations there, it is not refers to another, it refers to something in general
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communications, they need it. well, for example, for strategic control of nuclear weapons, for critical communication there in the event of a threat , ah, this can 100% occur, and i do not rule out that a situation like the caribbean crisis, of course, in a different format, may occur in the near future or in relation to nuclear weapons will be about chemical weapons, that's why in the united states they actually think that it's not a lack of political will there and that ah, so they're not terrorists, aren't they? yes, of course, terrorists are just there calculating the consequences, both political and not only political and the consequences are different, it would not be so critical for russia and you just heard this russian position which, as i understand it, is
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written very, very carefully and in detail in moscow they say that a hybrid military campaign has been launched against russia this is what they are talking about. at the conference on the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, the kremlin is telling its representatives that a situation may arise and when there will be a direct conflict between nuclear states, they have already simply started blackmailing the united states of america, but as a result of this blackmail, what has to be, that is, they expect that washington will somehow begin to retreat from its positions, that the united states of america will begin to provide less weapons to ukraine, so that they recognize that ukraine is the sphere of interests and the sphere of influence of the russian federation, that is, there is some logic and some
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explanation is normal this is blackmail and threats that there will be a conflict between nuclear states. and this means a nuclear war in the world, of course there is russian logic, it does not fit into any civilized head, but this is the logic of blackmail . let's talk on our terms, let's achieve compromise, they understand very well that sanctions destroy them, they understand very well that they cannot get all of ukraine, that's why they say to the americans, well, if so, let's divide ukraine completely cynically, well , that's only the russian mentality, it allows a conditional part of ukraine for us, we make a part of it neutral as a neutral buffer, we are about that's what they want to talk about and that's what they're blackmailing, that's exactly the position russia currently has in all these
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endless secret channels for a reason . yes, this was publicly, that is, absolutely such an ugly cynical position that they are blackmailing the west , everything here is just schrüder who visited moscow and moscow has already confirmed the fact of negotiations with the russian leadership in an interview in an interview with shternov and ntv announced on wednesday that the russian war in ukraine is a mistake of the russian government, but the good news is that the kremlin wants to solve everything at the negotiating table, everyone says today that the kremlin says that russia is ready for peaceful negotiations regarding the resolution of the conflict in ukraine on his own terms and emphasizes on his own terms which are
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well known, i.e. over the past two weeks we have seen both lavrov and schröder and some sources in the kremlin commenting on the situation to russian propagandists saying that they are ready for peace talks but on the question is what are their conditions and where did these conditions stop, because we know that there was a negotiation process after the great invasion until the educational month in istanbul, only negotiations were held, then russia she said, in general, we will monitor what the ukrainians will say, we will protect them, especially in the southern regions, counting on the fact that pseudo-referendums will be held there in vere in august and september, meaning in the occupied part of the kherson region and in some districts -e zaporizhzhia region the kremlin wants peace talks, it doesn’t want peace talks for sure, it wants
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talks in order to achieve its goals as a result, and the goals it is aiming for are just counting them, they have n’t changed at all. well, maybe count this part again to make a part of ukraine a kind of unrealistic buffer, to limit our armed forces, as if to say that there is a threat to russia from our territory. i have only a simple question. i see a threat from the territory of russia from this regime. so, how will we limit russia then, and this is exactly the question are key, everything that clings to that and is tangential to what they say. and let's recognize who, let's recognize donbas in some form, it's all the same conditions, they hang them, they will now try to, er, hang conditions regarding the south, but in
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as a result, they were clearly told that you can leave all your conditions to write some pieces of paper in moscow. but on these conditions, uh, no, nothing will actually happen. we perfectly understand that uh, the situation will be resolved on the battlefield at the fronts, that's what the americans say this is what the europeans say, this is also our belief and this is also our understanding that we must continue to maintain the stability of our society and our economy, but even after a possible ceasefire, i deliberately say a ceasefire because i will peacefully agree to this i do not believe in the regime at all, but it cannot be uh, they will always be interested in the destruction of ukraine as it
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is . then the question arises. nothing has changed in the heads of the russian establishment of the russian political party in the head of putin, absolutely nothing has changed here either, they say, we want to end it there, we want to end it we want to end it with negotiations on our terms, they say no, goodbye, you're already like that, everyone you have won a really strategic war, you have already lost it, and the further you take it, that is what the americans and europeans are trying to explain to them, the more you lose, the more we lose economically, the more we lose politically, the less you are respected in this world and there will be
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some when it comes regardless of the propaganda in the heads of er well, there is still more or less er of such an er part of russians who are at least somehow capable of thinking by the way, in russia, as in china, all uprisings began with some kind of economic situation, there they are not afraid of freedom. in fact, no one needs freedom there, that's why russia really wants to solve this issue, but on its own terms, and that's what he said, what he was looking at, what he was told in moscow, and this is what he conveyed in berlin at the end of our program, mr. pavlo, i will ask you about uh, how will this confrontation between russia and the united states of america end, because for 100 years,
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we have observed different periods in the relations between the then ussr, later russia and the united states of america. you have already mentioned the caribbean crisis, when the world was on the verge of war, in your opinion, will it still be possible in the current situation and at the current stage to reduce the degree of general tension in the world, washington, moscow , - firstly, this confrontation is no longer between the states and russia, but between the entire civilized west and russia, secondly, the degree can really change, it can increase, it can decrease, but today the majority of poetonic people in the west have understood that this russia represents a threat not only for us, for ukraine, for the ukrainian nation, for the entire west, and if they are not stopped, they
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will continue to do the same, if china is not stopped there in taiwan, china will continue only in a different way, and with this russia, there cannot be any kind of civilized relations like that there somewhere in berlin or in paris, someone in their head somewhere deep still dreams of some uh, post-war more or less normal relations of the whole of russia in quotation marks. but i think that it will not be like that. the 21st century, well, since the 1st century - it's not n empire is about people, the international system itself, as putin likes it very much, sovereign countries where you can do anything and lukashenko likes it, where you can do anything in your belarusian collective farm , it is gradually coming to an
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end. this does not mean that it will be tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, we are not naive, but nevertheless, such a system is a fundamental threat to the whole world, which means that this system is not permanent, and one day it will definitely cease to exist in this world, there will be a sunset in this world there will be an east. nevertheless, there are countries that are egalitarian and invented and purposed in order to exist, so that they cannot exist because they do not exist for people and they have no chance for the past. on this optimistic note , we will put an end to such empires in our conversation should not exist. it was pavlo klimkin , politician-diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019. thank you, mr.
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pavlo , for the conversation. well, listen, the defender of ukraine sees in the dark as if during the day he hears his brothers for kilometers around him, he can move quickly in any terrain, his body is reliably protected, which makes him less sensitive and more confident, and he looks at the enemies from a bird's eye view of the cockroaches for 8 years in a row, we are with you we provide our defenders with what saves their lives on the front lines, our priorities are day-night and thermal imaging optics , communication, off-road vehicles, individual protection and technical means of intelligence, join the gathering funds and let the next night be calm for everyone except the occupiers, some creatures wonder
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about the toilet in the house and we from ukraine can insure cars, be at least in the toilet hotline finance insurance of course online greetings dear tv viewers my name is vasyl zima, this is a program vasyl zima's worldview on the espresso tv channel during for the next 45 there plus or minus 1 minute, we will talk about a very important topic that is not so often raised on the airwaves because, of course, it is always in the focus. the focus is always the war, the situation on the fronts, help to our army weapons from western countries and what is there in the kremlin what is there in russia when putin dies or will he die and so on and all this is being discussed the economic situation today we will talk about people and these are millions of ukrainians uh at the peak there were almost 10 million ukrainians who left our country to the european union, well, who went to the united states
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, who went to canada, who else where, maybe someone left for australia, but mostly these people left for countries that are members of the european union, and also for great britain, which is not a member of the european union well, it is also a european state, today we will talk about refugees, how they live there, how they are accepted, how they perceive life for us, who among them plans to return, who does not plan to return, how to psychologically experience the war while not in ukraine, how to help ukraine, how to live and whether it is really a war it is forgotten when you cross the border of ukraine and stay for a long time in a place where sirens do not sound, but today you are on the phone with us, ms. clay, i congratulate you good day, i am glad to see and hear you, we will call you a volunteer although we can, i i can add that mrs. clay has something to do with the medical field, yes, if i'm not mistaken
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. ukraine and uh there was quite a long way to the territory of the european union, western ukraine, uh, the western region of ukraine, then poland, then uh, britain and now mrs. galina not only lives in britain, so to speak, but there for some help from the local authorities from the local community she is still actively working helps our ukrainians abroad, i help in such simple things as, let's say, draw up documents there, write a resume in order to get a job there, and some other things, well , sometimes you have to support people, or you understand. i have relatives and friends who left abroad, i think that you also have relatives and acquaintances who left abroad and these are people who are actually doing a very important job today, these are people who save the lives of their children, these are people who save their own lives, perhaps, and most of these people i
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i am convinced that the majority of these people will eventually return, besides, these people are abroad, they are a visible evidence of what is happening in ukraine, because they organize rallies, they organize some actions, they organize some flash mobs, they constantly speak there about the fact that there is a war in ukraine, we are here and we, who are here, we are proof that there is a war in ukraine of course there are people who would just go to make a better life for themselves, let's not be so naive, you know to think that everyone there just cares about ukraine , thinks about ukraine, we are people, that's it

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