well, how do you hear us, good morning, i can hear you well, and we already hear you better, and it's much more comfortable to talk like this. thank you for understanding. and if we talk about the fact that russia announced that azov people are terrorists , and if we talk about the world, for us, azov people are some uh heroes, and this is some kind of not underestimated phenomenon, but abroad very often journalists are asked, for example, are they really not terrorists? these are some non-extreme nationalists. or are these some uh, well, that is, people who just want to be there to fight a-ah and it doesn’t matter what to fight for, how can we convince the world because we understand that russian propaganda works for us and throws huge

money into it, of course i already noted that propaganda really works in relation to this unit in a rather negative way. at the same time, i want to emphasize that during the existence of this unit, various representatives of mass media, especially foreign ones, had the opportunity to visit this unit, to visit its training, to see that these are ordinary people, ordinary ukrainian citizens who are serving in this unit in accordance with the law. and even their activities are all defined by the statutes of the armed forces and regulated by all the laws that regulate the activities of these military formations in ukraine, e-e also worked in mariupol before the start of a full-scale invasion, and various international organizations, in particular, monitor the place of the un and any violations in general

regarding the activities of the unit and other e-e. if its components of the national guard e-e official appeals to these international organizations the national guard was not there to judge whether there is a military serviceman or whether there is a person suspected of some illegal activity, in particular terrorism, they can make a conclusion about this, accordingly, having evidence and what we are saying now about the so-called recognition of this unit by the supreme court of the russian federation, a terrorist organization, it can primarily be aimed at ensuring that servicemen who are currently in captivity are not considered as combatants, as prisoners , respectively, for this group, e.e., servicemen all the norms of the geneva conventions of international humanitarian law are spread, which guarantees their

treatment according to how it should be in accordance with all international conventions as prisoners of war, because persons who are recognized as terrorists or can be recognized as belonging to the activities of terrorist organizations, respectively , this is a completely different category of people and the rules of law that can be applied to them are completely different. that is, this is the conclusion of the court that we read in the snake about which it is known that it can be in the first place aimed again at the discrediting of this unit and at the fact that they are applied in russia to people who are currently held by ukrainian defenders there in captivity completely different norms of law, the situation regarding the killed volynites is clear, the new ombudsman from nubin says that the russian federation should return the bodies of the killed, in particular and the

azovians, eh, how will ukraine accept them in the future, of course, it is quite a sensitive issue for the entire society, for the state, which has been in existence for a long time, the last wars - this is the issue of prisoners and, of course, the issue of the exchange of prisoners and the return of bodies, because it is quite complex and quite complicated, starting from the negotiations about how this should happen and when and ending with how many bodies will be returned, and so on. state bodies , in particular, the security service of the ministry of reintegration and the temporarily occupied territories of kostiv , it is also on the news of the day, there is a lot of work that is being done in this matter, it can not be for public disclosure, considering

the specifics of this issue what is some information about whether there will be such an exchange or there will be a return and in what way and in what place in the settlement it can damage the self-exchange or even disrupt it and usually this is reported already by the fact of how it all happened carried out, in particular, at the end of july, one of the exchanges took place in us, which made it possible to return the bodies of ukrainian defenders, and after that, another difficult question is the process of identifying the bodies, because there are a lot of bodies, in particular, if we talk about the terrible event that the population of deer has become a force, and there are a lot of them in the colony, well, they are difficult to recognize and the process of recognition, the process of submitting dna samples of relatives, it takes quite a long time, and this is exactly the issue

. the officer of the armed forces of ukraine, the ex-commander of the azov regiment, says that the regiment is currently looking for all those involved in this mass murder, and how is it possible to find those who caused it, or is it possible to punish them later how are you looking for them? i can. i will not comment on the words of maxim majorin, i will only note that ukraine as a state, law enforcement agencies of the security service of ukraine, the main intelligence directorate is doing everything possible to collect all the necessary evidence about war crimes that in general happened at the beginning of the full-scale invasion and in general during the period of the war in ukraine starting from 2014 and all uh-uh

all these issues starting from uh-uh crimes that took place on the territory of populated areas which were under occupation, and also as regards our servicemen who were captured , they are being accumulated in order to give an appropriate assessment in accordance with the norms of international law in the future. it is not in the territory under the control of the ukrainian authorities , so the security service of the main directorate of intelligence is taking appropriate actions in order to collect evidence, if possible, starting from interception radio intercepts, interception of telephone conversations, and ending with the testimony of other persons, and this work will continue until all

ukrainian prisoners are returned and the collection of evidence, and of course it will also continue until this case reaches the international orthodox church, literally after you, we were going to talk to iryna yurchenko this is the mother of one of the soldiers of the azov regiment and a famous one who became famous for his with german women, actually from there you remember this er ray of light that falls through the er pierced roof somewhere on one well actually, at azovstal, of course, dmytro kozytskyi, that's how he got in touch. mother says that at least he's alive. and actually he left. asked this is the murder of the azov people, this is

peace, he said that this could be a way to hide the simply inhumane treatment of prisoners of war, torture, and actually hide these crimes, violations of the geneva convention, that is why this question is relevant. it is relevant how the defenders of mariupol are treating their own of course, there is no complete picture of what is happening now with all the prisoners of war, not only the azovians in ukraine, because, well, we all understand the conditions in which everyone who was captured is now, and this applies, as i have already noted, not only to the guardsmen, but also fighters of the azure alc at the same time, of course, i talked about the fact that this issue is quite painful, it is not only for our country, it is also particularly relevant because the fate of an individual serviceman is the fate of a

prisoner, of course, he is behind him relatives, relatives, that is, a large number of people who care about his relatives, who are worried about the fact that of course this fighter returns from captivity and returns alive, healthy and unharmed. regarding the stay of the fighters, they are now in captivity, of course, after a long period of detention, the place of mariupol, the defense of azov, many military personnel have unsatisfactory state of health, injuries, lost body parts, lost limbs, and of course the issue of proper treatment is also one of these issues must be resolved, in particular, there is also the return of some military personnel from captivity . at the end of june, we had a rather large exchange where more than 50 national guard servicemen returned, in particular the azovians, and their

issue of returning to normal life, the issue of psychological rehabilitation treatment, in general, is quite difficult. we are trying to involve in this not only medical institutions, not only health care institutions of ukraine, but also of course between organizations, we also solve issues for that so that these people have the opportunity to undergo treatment abroad. and this is again about psychological rehabilitation and also about prosthetics , which, of course, also relates to one more issue - these are military women, servicemen, their wives and mothers, and now, in particular, regarding the azov people, there is quite a lot a powerful movement of women of steel who conduct various actions in order to draw the maximum attention of the world community to this issue of the international organizations of the red cross

and precisely so that the issue is resolved properly in general, the treatment of captives is the return as from captivity, the provision of all those rights that , according to the length of the convention, have military servicemen who were captured. these women are really made of steel, because it is difficult to even imagine what they feel, what those who have already lost feel their relatives and what do those who still live with some kind of hope feel but don't know if everything will be fine with their relatives after what actually happened in that colony and tell me the international committee of the red cross explained that they are not guaranteed the safety of the defenders of azov steel who were taken into russian captivity, now someone guarantees the safety of those who are in russian captivity

so that it does not happen to them, god forbid the same thing happens, of course we see what a cruel war is going on now about what is not it is possible to guarantee the preservation of life or the observance of certain rights even in relation to the civilian population. it is no longer a question of military personnel, in particular those who were captured, but as far as ukraine is concerned , everything is being done to appeal to international organizations, in particular the un red cross, in order for these guarantees to be respected, and of course it is impossible to guarantee what is happening on the territory not under the control of ukraine, because ukraine, for its part, is trying to comply with these measures and the rules of international humanitarian law and the geneva conventions regarding e.e. servicemen of the russian federation federations that

are in captivity on the territory of ukraine about russia's compliance with these norms, it will be enough, and we see that it is not always fulfilled. together with the ministry of integration of the temporarily occupied territories carries out a lot of work in order to return our servicemen from captivity to hunt for the red cross, which can provide their representatives in the matter of the return of servicemen, issues of return bodies and exchange, and this is as a third party, these organizations can act precisely in order to be able to supervise how the rights of these people are observed, which are military personnel who are in captivity. thank you very much ruslan muzychuk, the spokesman of the national guard of ukraine, was in touch with

us. thank you, mr. ruslan. we wish you a good day, and, in fact, we were unable to reach ms. iryna igorchenko. unfortunately, she is actually working and is currently on a flight. and we know that sometimes the connection er is walking around ukraine is not always possible. but i think that in our next broadcasts er, we will try to contact her and ask her what she heard about her son, what is his condition er and in general, how does he feel, because here are these women, what do they feel like they do they are holding on well, this is probably also for us some kind of a translation, don't break down, i won't give up and hold on actually, well, now we will talk a little more about the situation at the front,

we will have serhiy zgurets, a military expert, and let's talk about where the ukrainian troops are actually advancing, mr. serhiy, we already see you. good morning. there are many reports that they are stepping on the sands , speaking on the radio in this direction, what is the situation there, what are the prospects in ukraine for the russian troops, and what is the importance of this direction, for the purpose we are talking about the analysis of the external assembly of the general staff, then it should be noted that the collision is taking place in many directions aquarium and air strikes, that is, the enemy continues to use the

capabilities of its artillery. part of its forces is trying to throw in the direction of kharkiv and in the direction of slavyansk, there are assaults of the indians, but without success in the area of ​​bakhmut , the enemy is trying to move to bakhmut from the south, this is the line of the novoluhansk codeman, just an attempt to cut the route and move to bakhmut so that e- is to develop its aspirations regarding the control of the route and hm zone around the bahmut, which is quite important. and indeed the biggest hot spot is operating around donetsk, where the enemy is trying to carry out assault

actions in the direction of the sands, this is from two directions - this it's funny and fun to go out onto the sands from two directions in order to control this area. actually , this may indicate that the enemy is trying to break through the defense line that has been held by the armed forces since the 15th year. it is sufficiently protected, but the activation of artillery and means of impression and concentration in narrow areas, now the impression is that they are trying to implement the strategy that was quite successful and in other directions due to the predominance of artillery in the day before yesterday, we just remember the address the evening of the president, where he talked about the fact that hell is conditionally better there, given the advantage of artillery, and i think that these statements

about anti-aircraft were supposed to cause in some way help to our units in these areas due to the transfer of artillery or the cabin of means of impression, i hope that so it will happen and we will ensure stabilization in this direction and the pain so far, it looks really the hottest of all levels of the front at the current stage, mr. serhiu , the military with whom we are talking in our on the airwaves, everyone is talking as one about the fact that if we had more weapons, we would push them back, and we read in the news that ukraine received four cameras, how many weapons do we need to really have success and prevail over the enemy, well now we have a situation where we actually received a significant amount of weapons from the western countries . when we were handed over what could have been handed over to you at the current stage in view of their stockpiles, let me remind you that

the nato countries, the united states, from the order of the future , the type of war, the main person was preparing for the advantage in the air and at sea, and now we have a situation where the enemy is leading an active offensive company using the approaches of the second world war with an emphasis primarily on artillery and infantry in this sense. we are trying to compensate the enemy with the personnel and the weapons that we have today arsenals and at the expense of the income that we received for the armed forces of ukraine in 5 months, in fact, this amount of weapons is quite large, because there we can talk about 450 tanks and 300 new howitzers caliber 155 mm, a significant number, because drones are anti-tank means, impression but all the same, the enemy has an advantage in numbers, because if we are talking

, for example, only about artillery, we have soviet artillery models for which there is a lack of ammunition for new artillery models, up to 300 guns, we have enough ammunition, but if we will compare how much artillery the enemy has now . well, for example, on the territory of ukraine, there are 1,500 artillery systems and 700 e-e systems of the rsv e-e, if we say that we have 300 new howitzers. we really have 1,500 russians, we understand that we still have a numerical advantage over the enemy and we compensate for this advantage at the expense of precisely these systems to the locational impression hammersi timersi. now we have about two dozen of them, they do their work sufficiently qualitatively and effectively, which the american side also recognizes. we want to have haimers eh at least 50 units but the main thing is not so many not so much not the number of haimers and the

number of rockets for these systems we are talking about the fact that due to the last package we will receive several thousand high-precision missiles to the havers, and this really allows us to compensate for the enemy's advantages in numbers, but on all fronts , you cannot stretch 20 farmers, although we are trying to do this. and that's why we are forced to balance for the time being due to the use and personnel in the conditions hostilities, i repeat, to be honest, this is not our way, we need to look for technological ways to repel the russian invasion using precisely the technological samples of weapons that we will receive from the west of the united states in fact, with the soviet samples, actually artillery 152 caliber, they are already completely exhausted, what is happening to the fact that even

at the beginning of hostilities, we had reserves for 152 mm artillery caliber eight times less than what we currently have for 155 mm howitzers if we say that now our stocks of 155 mm caliber ammunition are about 450,000, then at the beginning of the active phase, i will repeat myself. when the enemy releases 20 shells, we release one now the ratio there has changed from one to six , but ammunition 152 is now extremely scarce in the world and even the countries with which we are negotiating and where due to the influence of the united states, also in poland and bulgaria, resuscitators are starting to start a new production of ammunition of the soviet sample, but it

will be a bit later than we need now, the main emphasis is really on the 155 mm artillery, but i will repeat, then we have a howitzer of 300 miles , yes, that is, the enemy there is 1,500, which means that we we have to either increase the number of e-e pizzas or find ammunition up to 152 mm so that in principle so far it invests enough it looks quite difficult i don’t know have you seen the material e-e daria kaleniuk e-e she is the head of e-e the anti-corruption center who wrote about the fact that receiving weapons directly depends on whether trust is established between the ukrainian and american authorities, in particular, because ukraine, for example, cannot receive documentation and cannot repair the equipment that it receives, it is taken to poland for repair is

how much it complicates this process and that it should happen that this trust in us is so that it is not transported to poland because it certainly takes time and accordingly what is written next by the horseshoes does not provide all the means of the actual electronic aiming what would simplify the work of the artillery here in question is several components of e-e, indeed, we are now trying to use the repair capacities of neighboring european countries to carry out repairs of our equipment, considering the risks of blows to our repair enterprises, this practice is currently in place in development, and we really have agreements with a number of foreign companies regarding the repair of military equipment, and i think that even the history of joint ventures will take place outside our territory. the needs of the armed forces have been proven in various ways when we talk about

trust between ukraine and the united states. by the states, there was a publication in the new york times the day before yesterday, the thesis was expressed that it seems that the united states has a certain reservation to the leadership in ukraine and literally yesterday we that john's explanation decision of the security council of the united states, where he spoke about the fact that there are no er, considering the complex relations between ukraine and the disputed states in this area, but in any case there are indeed certain nuances of the effective use of weapons and here with on the one hand, there are partial restrictions on the american side when we talk about electronic units to achieve e-e m tris-3 sevens, on the other hand, more e-e effective approaches to the use of these systems by the armed

forces because at the first stage, the american the military talked about what can be said about m-37s that are used effectively, but ukraine should make even more efforts there so that they use them even more effectively, there were certain comments, so if we now return to the answer to the question of how effectively we use american weapons, we use within the limits of our skills and our views on the guidance of combat operations can we expect to receive more technological weapons there ? systems of impression to the same heimers that you say, america is going to transfer to us missiles with editorial homing heads to farmers, which are not even used by the american army, if i think that the interaction of the use of weapons is such a complex, far from linear process, where by extracting individual facts that can be interpreted there as treason, in fact it is does not create a

general picture where we understand that without american and my european help it is difficult for us to lead god and we try to take into account all the requirements and wishes of our partners there are pauses, there are literally two minutes left. well, if i just ask you in a humane way, how do you currently assess the situation at the front in general, betrayal or victory? in fact, the situation at the front today looks difficult. the enemy is not motivated and in fact any day on the front may have operational strategic changes here. now we are talking about the fact that we are preparing for the next half and the enemy is trying to carry out counteroffensive actions

to pull up equipment in the same kherson and zaporizhzhia direction, that is, the generals on both sides are thinking about how to win a victory and secure certain lines there, which is the best line for defense, and for us this is quite a dynamic process , and to talk about whether it is betrayal or victory, of course i is determined to win despite all the difficulties that are happening at the front today and everyone says that this enemy is demoralized, but he continues to disturb our military and there are many vehicles, many enemies that have not been demolished, but the number is still high the fifth option of compensation for this advantage is important. petro chornyi reminded us yesterday, so that we did not relax, that the russians have a mobilization reserve of 15 million, so that we also remember that everything is not so

simple, so thank you, mr. concluded and gave us a sober, balanced assessment of what is happening, that little by little every day, but we are getting closer to our victory , cool, yes. well, now we can definitely say that the next program is the news release which will be conducted for you angelika from sozonenko, but first a national moment of silence where we remember all those who died in this war