in the 5th years and the deputy minister of finance in the 9th-10th years, yes, our guests, let's go for sure . i would like to talk about dollars. so, this ban on showing how much the hryvnia is worth affected the fact that it decreased, or is there no relationship between one and the other, let's with mr. oleksandr, let's start kicking mr. oleksand oleksandr, yes, you know that the rate is influenced by many factors and political information, which are dynamic, but it seems to me that the cash dollar has become very much detached from the non-cash dollar and this has contributed to it well, there are a lot of factors, first of all, the desire of the black market to make money, that is, we must not forget that

war is war. and everyone who can make money, including fluctuating exchange rates, also does it. of course, this parade looks strange, and i would still recommend it to the national bank it is more fundamental to approach the issues of the course of formation and, for example, to stimulate commercial banks to actively intervene in the cash market, to supplant non -bank money-changers and thus to tie a little cash-less exchange rates and to provide a commercial bank with a free transfer of currency from one market to another, and then we will have a single exchange rate and less opportunity to earn

from exchange rate fluctuations, let them earn, but within the framework of e-e, you know there is half a percent of a-a there is 0.25%, when it comes to it's about five. there were times and 10% per day, well, that's not normal, mr. sergey. what do you think, was it a good, creative idea? how do you rate this idea, the ban was logical, and the main thing is not to tear it down, it's not the only one the idea is not the only measure that was applied by the national bank first of all they just increased the ability of banks to sell cash dollars on the market by allowing them to use the non-cash currency they buy and that's all i think was the strongest factor that just shot if we see last week we saw a speculative drift of the exchange rate in the market when after the official exchange rate ran and the black market did not stop in time because everyone ran as they

ran, there was a certain speculative pressure, the psychological factor was a psychological factor, it reached 4 god broke away too far from the official course and then, well, first of all, gravity worked because he was too far away, and secondly, the national bank applied a number of measures, including those related to the scoreboard, but if it affects them, it has a minimal effect, mainly because the supply of currency on the cash market was increased through the bank and the actual rate has now rolled back to this natural position when the cash market rate is somewhere within 10%. will differ from the rate officially, it will be quite difficult to reduce this difference because, after all, the cash market is always it differs from the official one because someone has to earn and because very often cash gets into that market as a result of certain schemes er these schemes cost certain amounts or money itself is also a commodity er yes in this case because well i am

just me i mean, it's all about censorship, about a certain ban. me, for example. well, i think if the prices of goods are rising in our country, it puts psychological pressure on me, for example, and i take less goods than i would like, and it cools down there, i don't know, the economy worsens earnings . let's go to the retailer we will remove all the price tags from the supermarket. and i'd better find out about the check so that i can pay - andriy, i don't have any eczema now. if you want to know the exchange rate, no one forbids you. you can go to the minfin.com.ua application there, for which the exchangers will always tell you courses courses no one hides from you the purpose of this step of the national bank so that the course does not come to you by itself, that is, if you like going home from work on the street and from every corner you are shown a course that psychologically pressures you, even if you are not looking for it.

i want to save the attention of the national bank. when you go home, even if sausage prices are rising, every tabloid will tell you that the sausage is rising . with the exchange rate of the dollar if you want to know if you are looking for some kind you know and there is a national bank that the course itself did not find you not the incendiaries or in this way the psychological pressure on you we amplifiers memo but you know how to which supermarkets use tricks to sell sausage and cheese, which now cost a lot, they write the price not per kilogram, but per 100 g, and it looks more attractive, and then you only see that it is e 100 g, in fact, it costs that much, maybe you can give 10 cents each so tick and it will actually be easier for everyone. and let's

talk about the next thing. the economy of the russian federation is actually in a worse state than the research of the yevskiy school of economics seems. meanwhile, the russian ministry of finance also published data according to which russia it turns out that this month i received over the last month i received 30% less income from the sale of oil and gas to the budget than they predicted and they are now figuring out what is going on. are these serious numbers ? and mr. oleksandr, on the one hand, the university really says that this is worse than they show, but the numbers that are shown are unfortunately better than we expected, and now the forecasts of the world's leading banks say that opa will fall by only -5% this year in russia, despite it looks like the whole independent policy. it is quite strange considering that the sanctions are very harmful to the russian

economy. but they simply harm the russian economy gradually, and here is the latest forecast of the central bank of russia, and it says that the fall is at the level of 10-11%, it is starting, we will see such a level of fall only in in the fourth quarter of this year, that is, everyone is acting, but they are acting gradually and so far, unfortunately, russia is winning because of high energy prices, and russia is selling with a discount the same 30% discount , but the prices are generally high and this saves so far russian economy, unfortunately, mr. oleksandr, i got acquainted with this study, it is rather strange, i have the impression that it was not made by professionals. that is, there are a lot of abstract assumptions, that is, i can understand that they probably do not have all the statistics, and that is why i should not pay attention to this study. what is finally known is that in the second

quarter the economy of arash nevertheless fell by about four and a half percent, and specialists of the national central bank of russia, and quite good specialists work there, predict that the general level of the drop in the gdp of the race will be somewhere around 8-9. well , maybe 10% at the most, compare it with our falls, you will see that the sanctions are included in this package that is currently in effect, and they will have a very common effect on the rush economy and on the budget of the race, which it is known for sure that in the second quarter , foreign currency receipts due to the balance of payments in russia were

less than expenditures, that is, the exporter was 70 billion dollars, 300 billion were arrested, and he would have received 70 billion per quarter, and it will probably continue until the end of the year because real oil sanctions will begin act, god forbid, if it is canceled at the very end of the year, and it seems to me that here the station wagon of the west is skidding. that is, it is in the grip of old schemes, supposedly in the world of energy, and the real market, in fact, there is never any market , and the prices of gas, oil, and coal and even on grain, this is the weapon of the aggressor of putin, russia, the kremlin, and that is why my proposal has been asking

the embassy for a long time. come to your senses, people, there is no need to limit the supply of goods. limit prices, but they keep postponing this measure. if we apply at least $50 per barrel of oil now, believe me, india and china would support the united states' decision, and now they pay $ 70 per barrel of oil. yes, it would have less opportunity to finance the war in ukraine, eh, and now, unfortunately, there are such opportunities and this gelish study. well, i don’t know what its purpose is, but we must not relax, we must put pressure on the

west and demand tougher effective sanctions that they will start working right here and right now we are not interested in what will happen in two to two and a half years due to the rapid economy, we are interested in what will happen this month in the next month and here i see a slip, there is such a good ukrainian saying a little bit not body positive, but when its people came up with such a thing, they didn't think about it until the fat one loses weight, the thin one dies, er, while we wait for the russian economy to bend, the ukrainian one, who is faster, mr. serhiy, if there was a confrontation with an exclusively ukrainian economy, an exclusively russian one, of course ours would have collapsed earlier and the effect of the war on the ukrainian economy is much greater than the effect of sanctions, well, again, this is natural because bombs are falling on our cities, our ports are blocked and

5-6 million people fled from our cities ago if ukraine was on its own against russia, yes, of course we lost , but here our advantage is that we have western partners with us who support our economy and confront economic defects, there are measures against russia, and here the forces are not proportionate and not in favor of russia p oleksandr i agree with what i expect, for example the fall in gdp in ukraine, unfortunately, is not 10 to 15, not 20, well , we are talking about somewhere between 45, maybe this five percent , that is, at least a third of the gdp of ukraine will fall, which means that inflated incomes. % is less than last year, that is, something is working, and

their salaries are actually reduced by about 4.5%. but look, there is a big difference between us, really. we are now on the rise, we are fighting the enemy for the right to exist in this world, and that is why we can tolerate it, ah, ah. and that is what i call the collective right now. the image is russian, i politely cannot call them russians, they are parashits who support putin's right to be called something else, but they have to choose this way, for them a drop in the standard of living by 5-10% is nothing , they adapt very quickly, the main disadvantage of russia is poverty and the poorer they are under the bigger they beat on the heads, the more they like the way tsar khan is the president and what is needed now

, what the west can understand because he has stopped studying russia in depth for about 30 years, only shock sanctions are in effect yes, if the standard of living and the percentage of racists fell by 3.40 in 1-2 months, they would not be able to adapt, and then the king is bad or the president is bad, there is no difference. and if they live every month by 1-2% worse, they will adapt to the level when they will still be breadwinners and will be satisfied and rejoice in this war, and that is why the sanctions here should also be aimed taking into account the impact , taking into account the psychology of the rashit people, this is

really a phenomenon. by the way, i read it today, unfortunately. to things about what uh in russia is opening, planning to open birch stores are such stores where in the soviet union you could buy imported goods for foreign currency, the low region is doing everything for that, really, it is an element of returning to the soviet union, so far it is only so funny because in fact despite all the restrictions on imports. and now there are a lot of restrictions on imports, after all, there are some products left there, there are warehouse stocks and so on, but what the head of the central bank of russia said, is the russian still surrendering in april? somewhere at the end of the first at the beginning at the end of the second at the beginning of the third quarter that is, in the month of july , they will run out of all stocks mostly and the same structural transformation will begin, this is starting now and maybe this element of the note store

is the same element of the structural transformation where certain people will be able to buy something privileged groups of people well, serhii, i know that you wrote about it, there are talks about introducing a tax on imports. i understand that this will mean that the goods are imported. and we have a lot of we are currently importing because somewhere there some factories are not working in the production of something, somewhere something was bombed and so on and so on, they will automatically become more expensive for the buyer in ukraine . positively because this is a lazy answer why because the economic authorities the authorities in the economy are forced to choose between bad very bad decisions which is the biggest threat to the economy of ukraine now is macroeconomic destabilization because then we

we will be completely. well, then the economy will collapse. yes, let's put it that simply, and then everything will go to hell. so far, fortunately, we are succeeding. is it almost a miracle that, despite the economic decline, 30% are unable to maintain this level of economic stability despite the war, and for this stability there are two key threats: the budget deficit is insanely high, because it is 5 billion dollars every month and the potential devaluation is pressing the hryvnia, and this tax is somewhere on imports of 10 percent. it aims to solve these two problems. the first is that imports are more expensive it is really true. and it is unpleasant for me as a consumer of this sample, but it also means that they were confronted with less, less imports means less pressure on the hryvnia, because we actually have very limited exports and imports are recovering very quickly, that is, the preservation of stability and such

flexibility of the ukrainian the flexibility of the economy of ukrainians shows that somewhere from april, imports are recovering very briskly in our country , consumer activity is recovering very briskly, and this is again pleasant on the one hand, and on the other hand, everything is putting pressure on the hryvnia and creates a crazy risk, because the devaluation of the hryvnia , uncontrolled devaluation of the hryvnia can destroy everything, so the first plus of this tax is a decrease in imports, and therefore less pressure on the greeks. there is not enough, it is not necessary to print the printing press of the national bank - this is again, if it is not controlled, this is the way to hyperinflation with uncontrolled devaluation, mr. serhiu, finally we started with dollars, we finish with dollars, what should we buy or wait until the price drops a little more? i don't know why i will buy for you, the question why should you buy? see if you can now sit down and

go abroad. buy normally see long-term i won't be anyone there normally long-term pressure on the hryvnia will be preserved while the war is going on there will be pressure on the national currency therefore the national bank's task is to minimize this pressure you will slow down the pace of devaluation, which will be all the same one way or another until the end of the war. however, at the same time, you understand that a large part of this devaluation is a psychological factor . hryvnias will fall if we don't talk about it, then hryvnias will fall that's all, thank you for your advice serhiy fursa, an investment banker , we talked about money, now we'll talk about charity with er, our next guest is

ulyana dzhurlyak, manager of the ns project of the serhiy prytula charity fund, we congratulate you, ms. ulyana. good day. tell me what you have done now, is the money already being collected, has a collection been announced or is it not being collected , friends? we are collecting we started collecting money for this and how actively they are already collecting a-a the company has actually been launched we invite the entire foreign audience of all foreign friends and partners to join this project but if you big countries want to do that, we will also be very happy how much money we need to collect, how much we need to build houses.

a-a well, here you can calculate how much this fund, in particular, serhiy prytula, is known for the fact that they have a lot of weapons or various equipment for the destruction of the enemy's manpower, it is known and is it advisable during the war to already open such a direction to build something, when it is still possible, should we destroy it, or is it time to collect it, this is the time to scatter stones again, so you know, while some ukrainians are heating there, others must rebuild our home

here, uh, in fact, they want to return home, but they don’t have to, they need to be given such an opportunity because every ukrainian likes our country and housing, unfortunately, this is very often the reason why ukrainians cannot return from one region to another or from abroad and these modular houses are supposed to be built instead of the destroyed housing. they should be on the site of the destroyed housing or in safer regions, and tell us a little about the modular houses themselves, what will be provided for them, because for each person this roof over with your head, this is the place where you feel like you were a child and the children are playing. i've been in the house for a year or so. this is the place where you feel safe. my very

important one is really even the connection of that yard with the land. it is one of the key fish. and we chose a niche a-a conditionally this is the name of a family who lived on their own, did not have a private house in towns and villages, and they already have a plot of land near sidor . for a person to simply return home, drive in and start to live and at the same time occupied about someone’s house and in the house of fashion - we can rarely find a round one and their service life is from 10 years, that is, the ukrainian one is here , first of all, to normally restore its shackles in

general, yes, these modular houses are made in ukraine or will they be made somewhere to purchase abroad or as possible, examples are our entrepreneurs, we talked to a psychologist yesterday, she says that ukrainians during the war, on the contrary, showed such entrepreneurial flair, a lot of people want to do their own business or actually someone may have already reoriented his business to build such houses. so we are currently in the process of collecting proposals from various suppliers , contractors, manufacturers, and the key here is what ukrainian manufacturers are, that is, this project is involved. ukraine will be able to receive , including what. it is understood. it is understood

. all because it's always like this who said that russian classes er bulgakov seems that people as people only квартирные вопрос has greatly ruined them , we don't know what it has led to in russia look there already there are no people left so the apartment question does this to people that the question is actually always relevant, how to distribute it all considering that there is always more housing, which i understand that this is not something for which money will have to be returned, of course this house is provided to families and does not always stay with them and they will eventually be able to stay there to dispose of it as they deem necessary maybe they will want to pass it on to other families and over time or to other people who will need them to understand more who needs more who will get

the first relatively speaking how do you how do you how do you define this how do you know that this house is served for the fact that my house is more destroyed, and they got what they could from, for example , we will rebuild these bahmutas, we will give you, and you are from maryinka yes, no, probably not, well, i'm saying yes yes, conditionally. that's why we work with families who have the hut is completely destroyed and it is impossible to repair it, replace a window or a piece of the roof , and now the pilot project is in the kyiv region, in the makariv region, and then we are planning from northern zhytomyr, chernihiv, sumy, that is, regions in which it is already relatively safe or there is a desire to return to these regions. and, of course, there is a lot of work with the process of deoccupation of the regions. we would also like to move more south and east with our

project, knowing enterprising ukrainians, if everything goes well, they will still surpass even that term of operation of the houses will come up with something so that they serve longer, but also knowing that ukrainians, even in difficult times for themselves, even with lower incomes, still donate money, and now, if cyologists study, they refuse, for example, to buy new clothes, meanwhile, this money is directed to for charity fatigue for which it is already the fifth month of the war the sixth e-e fatigue exhaustion financial how does it affect whether more or less money is donated in fact this fatigue is not because people want us that's just because the financial opportunities of ukrainians are decreasing , that is why in the nest project we emphasize

foreigners who want to help ukrainians and actually help with housing. because sometimes it looks like foreigners are not always ready to buy or whether to buy weapons or some other things, but they are happy to help ukrainians humanitarian needs. thank you very much, ms. ulyanu. thank you to the serhiy prytula charity fund and the project. well, in our time, this is actually exhausted from lesyuk. thank you for being with us. thank you for what for what. commented and broke through the comments of the russian e-e bot, of which there are many under our broadcast here. see you tomorrow. well, the espresso ether continues and continues to broadcast news in it. our life will not be the same as before, and for the sake of the future, the

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