we can say that for eight years we saw their weak activity, this year we saw that what was built does not serve the purpose for which they were created . organizations in which they have great influence, where they make large financial contributions . there, we know different stories, such as with schroeder, yes, he was the chancellor of germany, artem gazprom, a friend. yes, there in europe, he headed their division it is so random with millions of salaries, the time of the new ones , we listen to the eh shiroders, that is exactly why we think that they will continue to pressure and use any options to sway the leadership of our country and negotiations on their terms. the territory of ukraine must be liberated , the status of mr. oleksandr has been restored,

mandatory evacuation from the donetsk region has been announced, iryna vereshchuk noted that it is probably necessary to prepare for a similar event in the zaporizhzhia region already now there are some preparatory processes going on. let's say so . if so, what do they consist of? that is , information processing and working with people to convince them that it is necessary to leave, that there may be battles, and look at the zaporizhzhia evacuation region since the first days of the war, and they passed through us and the people of mariupol and from our region, a large part of the people left at the beginning of the war, up to a third left, even more. well, when there were especially shellings, then the power plant there, more people even left the regional center. currently, a little returned to the territory of ukraine to the territory of ukraine yes, from abroad and to the territory of our region, it is clear that people

are taken out of the war zone, the practice is not easy. this story is not easy. people sometimes come for work, but it has calmed down there, there is less shelling, they come back again to dig your gardens, well, it’s like that, you know, the habits are like that, and evacuation plans have been developed directly in our country. at the moment, i wouldn’t raise this issue so actively if a decision is necessary, accordingly, there will be a military threat, first of all, because in these in some cases, the decision is made by the military command that there is a military threat, and secondly, the cabinet of ministers makes a decision on the evacuation of both the donetsk region, the infrastructure there is destroyed, and all situations are complicated by providing life support to the territory. well, in the zaporizhia region, there are currently such territories where it is difficult, but in general to the unoccupied part of the zaporizhzhia region, we will say that the situation is stable for now, but we are preparing for

any development, mr. head, finally, i would like to clarify why the enemy is so strong and is actively trying to bombard nikopol, why exactly nikopol, because they use the bridgehead on the second side of the kakhovsky reservoir , because you can see nikopol directly opposite the power plant, if you look at the map, there are a few kilometers across the dnipro, the kakhovsky reservoir , nikopol, there from nikopol you can see the blocks of the npp and the chp, with a report you can see nikopol with a power source, i am shelling in order to provoke with the force of provocation, you and i first started talking about shelling to provoke in order to respond accordingly, then you say that the ukrainians are fucking nuclear plant well, and then the ifc is just another piece of paper, so to speak, on this topic, so we understand. thank you very much, mr. chairman, for your

work and for participating in the live broadcast of the information and analytical marathon. oleksandr starogo, the head of the zaporizhia regional military administration, worked on our live broadcast 8: 33 minutes khrystyna yatskiv borkovskiy all our online guests and the already mentioned capacity international will be the topic of our next e -conversation and all the related moments olga reshetilova coordinator of the media initiative for human rights are now in touch with us olya, congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, in fact, they have already slandered the international and their a-a report, yes, the report they provided er, we are talking about, let me remind you, what are the armed forces of ukraine they use civilian infrastructure and sometimes they allegedly almost cover themselves with the civilian population a-a of course, this does not justify the attacks with unconventional weapons that the russian

federation is carrying out on the territory of our country well, but with less certainty international emphasize just such trend olya well, what is your reflection on this whole story as of the second or third day, how did it explode ? circumstances and at least the fact that a-a it provides space for a-a victimization of an even greater victim, and that is, it does not take into account the fact that ukraine is a victim even itself . of this conflict and defines ukraine as an equal party to the conflict, and putting it

on the same level as the aggressor . of course, this is wrong. of the international community is the fact that the trust in protection activities as such is being broken, and those human rights organizations that work in good faith in ukraine provide support to the victims of the armed aggression of the russian federation. and now it is very shaky position because it flew, you know, to all the human rights defenders. actually, there are a lot of professional human rights organizations in ukraine that have been working on the topic of war for eight years. and actually , i talked about it from the very beginning when many of our changes referred to the central office about the fact that no one has

such information and context as ukrainian human rights organizations, and actually in order to combine all this information of ukrainian human rights organizations, we created the coalition ukraine at five in the morning, which was created on the second the day of the full-scale invasion on february 25, and which is already working on contagion, there are already 30 ukrainian non-governmental organizations that have information like no other and who never ignore the appeals of the victims or the media. actually, we can provide our assessment and we can provide sufficient information. we have many professional reports which, unfortunately, are not paid so much attention in the ukrainian media, well, ms. olya, i agree with you because, in any case, the capacity of the international - this is an extremely powerful international the structure on the other hand i was a little shocked by the way they write their reports, we understand that and

the proof that the report was of poor quality became that the dismissal from the self-removal of the head of the international capacity in ukraine, now i will quote the director of the ukrainian officialdom of international oksana pokalchuk, yesterday evening it was announced that she was dismissed it's another loss that the war brought me , everyone's favorite job, years of life, plans for the future blah blah blah blah everything crashed against the wall of bureaucracy and a deaf language barrier, it's not about english, and the fact that if you don't live in the country invaded by the invaders, they will tear it to pieces. you probably don't understand what it's like to condemn the army of defenders. capacities of international, this is a colossal scandal, that is, what they wanted, relatively speaking

, in the central office, it was published. and we understand that the reports and reporting of international are taken into account in various international organizations i think that, in particular, in the organization of the united nations. yes, you are absolutely right. and this is probably the most authoritative human rights organization in the world, and it is a pity that in this way they are digging a hole for themselves and the fact that the head of the ukrainian office has resigned. this is an extremely big event, in principle, for of the human rights community of the world and i think that this should be such a signal and that human rights protection in the world has turned into a process for the sake of the process and not a tool for the protection of victims and business itself well, forgive me for detailing, that is, people they come, sit down in one or another convenient office

, get their couple of thousand euros or dollars a month . well, they write something there, it is not known what, referring to these or other data, so to speak, but if they are not the data that is referred to, then, to our great regret, sorry there are extraneous sounds here, unfortunately, yes, you are right, people who sit in central offices very often do not understand the context, and it seems to them that if they cause public indignation, it actually means that they are doing their job correctly, and it is obvious that we we cannot absolutely deny the criticism of all sides of the war, and it is obvious that it is possible that the ukrainian side may do something not as stipulated by international humanitarian law, but the very system of international law already after the beginning of the war, even in the 14th year after the annexation of crimea, proved that it is completely ineffective and should be

reviewed first of all. well, secondly, if you are going to criticize, then your arguments must be impeccable . it is not the report itself that causes indignation here, it is not the very existence of the report and not the very attempt to criticize the armed forces of ukraine, but the fact that it is completely groundless and not well-argued, and therefore, as a matter of fact, you are here, this undermines the credibility of the most authoritative crisis olya what kind of mechanism is there for our tv viewers? tell me, how do you think international collects information about what ah at a specific moment ah happened in odesa oblast so -so so-so the armed forces of ukraine did so-so so-so this ultimately led to human casualties it is called the age of people who were either injured or

killed. and this information, well, i would like to understand. and where does the international agency have the opportunity to collect this information, except from open sources , because, well, again, we always hear from the general staff, i'm sorry, information about whether the armed forces of the russian federation they attacked some military object with their missiles, if you understand a-a but i understand what you're talking about, i don't know how in this particular situation they collected information and, as a rule, international organizations that have er ukrainian offices do this with the help of their employees in ukraine, if we are talking about our country, in this case oksana pokalchuk, the head of the ukrainian office, stated that they were not involved in the collection of information, as i suspect that some monitoring missions from the dark were possible, but i i don't know, i can only say how we collect information, and indeed we very often have, well, more detailed

information than society in general, because we work in the field on the spot in the combat zone, we very often we have contact with the occupied territories and communicate with people there, interviewing them and gathering information. actually, that's why human rights organizations really have uh, very detailed information, and uh, it's very important to understand when it can be made public, when no , how to protect this information and so on, how it happens, unfortunately, i do not know because i did not work in this office, i can only guess if i assume that they should obviously come to ukraine themselves before issuing such report, but you know, lately i see a lot of such different international organizations, sometimes i get the impression that they are like vultures, you know, when they sense blood, they fly to where long-term events are taking place, and this is not only about

human rights organizations. these are those that work with the armed conflict after them, there are a lot of commercials, look at this moment, we share the values ​​of human rights organizations, yes , we support containers international is an organization with many years of experience, yes, more than 10 million activists around the world, it is really powerful organization, we wanted to turn this into a conflict between ukraine and the international capacity, because you know, this is shooting ourselves in the foot, but we would like to achieve some kind of truth and find out who was specifically behind who was responsible for this report, and whether it is done in this organization at all, or is there a possibility of a reversal of influence for presenting distorted information that imposes. a completely different non-human rights defender advised that it makes no sense to turn this conflict into a conflict between ukraine and the

container, but anyway, this situation around ukraine, i kind of think, should start historical changes and zeal and, in principle, in the human rights environment of the world, and this is the position of the ukrainian office here, it is quite important and important to you, and i think that it should become a signal for the world and the situation ukraine is such a unique community that generates changes in all environments, including in this one , first of all, secondly, i think that there are always specific ones responsible. judging by the way the head of the central office of fedorfis emblesty international defended her report, it is obvious she took responsibility for this report by calling everyone who started criticizing it trolls a-a and mixing them with ukrainian and russian ones.

actually, this is a er hmm signal that she was aware of this report and she takes responsibility for it myself for me mrs. olya , i finally came across a contextual advertisement for nastia international canada and i wanted to show it to the audience and you, too. i am very brief. the main thesis of the translation is empathy, which was shown to ukrainians, should be expanded on er, all the refugees, yes, all those who seek asylum there, obviously in canada, it is a bit more difficult to talk about the er selectivity of the canadian migration system . something like that, and i must note that even in private conversations, we notice more and

more often with europeans that uh, a lot of theses are heard about and why is there such a special attitude towards ukrainians? and where is the symmetrical attitude towards refugees from other countries? i would like you to comment on it, again, i don't want to outline garbage on ventilators as they say, but less than that well, now it seems to me that uh, if they reproached ukrainians, uh, and reproached those who treat them positively, instead of saying that uh, others deserve the same, but, well, blame for that there is no need, uh, i don’t know, to put it exclusively on the ukrainians, you are now raising an extremely important and sensitive issue, in fact, because first of all, pope francis actually does, and because this discourse is already being conducted, but it is not the first month and, like, why for to ukrainians especially the attitude i think that here

there is also a problem and in our communication it is possible in a certain way and in the same human rights organizations that do not explain the uniqueness of this conflict that at the moment absolutely unpunished aggression and its signs of genocide are taking place before the eyes of the whole world this aggression did not appear out of nowhere - it is a consequence of the impunity of the aggressor during the previous eight years and during the connivance of his actions in other countries of the world and, in fact, from this point of view, communication seems to me to be very correct and in to a certain extent, to a certain extent, and now the western countries are also paying the price for not reacting in time and not stopping the aggressor . first of all, secondly, this is because ukraine is now leading the way for other affected peoples of nations.

how should the attitude towards those who suffer from armed conflicts be? and it is not because we are special, but because we want to show how it should be right, and here we must not criticize, but take the example of the ukrainians, but how defend yourself how to save yourself from armed aggression and how to communicate with the world, and we must now become a leader for the whole world. we definitely have a lot to work on in this direction, because communication with the world. well, it is difficult to achieve perfection here. thank you, olga reshetilova , coordinator of the media initiative for human rights, was with us in touch well, we are moving on to military analytics with us in touch further serhiy zgurets director of the information consulting company defense express we congratulate serhiy good morning good morning the enemy is advancing in the direction bahmut point, i would like you to turn this dot

into a colon and decipher what it means, we understand that it is as if the enemy has shifted to the south , but still the fighting continues and the enemy is pressing in the east, well, except for the rooster, the most hot spots are really the situation around er, bahmut and is turning around avdiyivka, when we talk about bakhmut, the enemy is trying to take bakhmut half in a ring, using two directions there, it is without the south, where the dolomite mountains are, the vologiv tpp, they are trying to break into side to the top of kodim, this is just south of bakhmut, and the second direction is just in the direction from e-e, like kovalivka, bakhmutivske

pokrivske, this is just the zno on the right side of e-e bobakhmut, as well as an attempt to break the track from bakhmut to lysychansk and in fact, all these actions are directed at attempts to actually surround bakhmut from two directions, using primarily artillery, but in fact, in fact, no advance is taking place in the combat zone itself , although attempts are being made to use artillery a similar situation remains quite active. by the way, it is also happening in the area of ​​avdiyivka maryinka. yesterday, i just had a conversation with the officers who are holding this defense there, and they say that the tactics of using er... kleiv shelling takes place, then attempts are made to attack the infantry, even if they are not trained

and the infantry fights back. artillery shelling begins again. it is also important that ours were struck today. we are there . long-range systems on various e-e objects of storage of ammunition of the enemy and the enemy is trying to draw conclusions, he is trying to disperse his ammunition warehouses and sometimes throws ammunition immediately from the railway tracks to the position without forming warehouses that can fall under the impression of our systems, that is, the enemy is trying in what way to adapt and our head will now focus on using and increasing the number of artillerymen in certain areas where this language is required. well, it’s all about successful hitting by the armed forces to the podariiv bridge, this is not the first story, we know that there were er

hits and earlier, nevertheless, the enemy is also er trying to restore traffic on these arteries to the best of his ability, sometimes the garbage actually tries to mold and seal the holes that are formed a-but nevertheless p serhiu, as far as now er-er, the enemy’s logistics does not feel certain, especially in the southern part of our country, indeed when we talk about the grouping of troops that is located on the right bank of the dnieper and where the enemy is trying to transfer an additional number of personnel around kherson to this area, which resembles a big trap for the russians, we carried out strikes on bridges that provide logistics - this is directly near kakhovka and the antoniv bridge near kherson and there and there there are paired bridges and railway and road bridges, they are limited to

ensuring the grouping of russian troops, and at the same time, the enemy is trying to somehow minimize this risk by creating pontoon and ferry crossings, but this does not allow to the full extent to talk about the restoration of the logistics of the russian group and i think that in the future the ukrainian army can completely cut this connection , giving the russians the opportunity to leave the captured territory, but the enemy does not draw conclusions and, on the contrary, begins to transfer additional forces to the kherson region and zaporizhzhia probably hoping that with its personnel it will be able to compensate for the offensive of the ukrainian troops, regarding the ukrainian offensive, i think that for a certain time we will still use the strategy such long-range destruction of logistical facilities and command posts and the most important targets, because in the current conditions this is the most rational way

, it is the exhaustion of the enemy's capabilities in the south of our country, well, in any case, we see that the biggest frenzy of the enemy is precisely in zaporozhye , we are talking about the city of energodar we are talking about the city of nikopol, but just a couple of minutes ago we finished our conversation with the head of the military administration of zaporizhzhia, and he told the old man in direct language that the enemy is deliberately hitting nikopol, i hope that our military that is a nation of artillerymen will strike back, and the enemy has placed positions on the territory of the nuclear plant. and there was a very unpleasant and dangerous intrigue going on, and the enemy, on top of that, is most likely firing on himself in order to raise the level and stakes. i wanted to ask this target about the situation in zaporizhzhia, the

situation is really difficult because on the one hand , to carry out offensive actions in the direction of zaporizhzhia, but at the same time, the nuclear power plant which is located in this area is used by the enemy to attack our troops, and this is done directly from the location of the air base, where it is actually extremely dangerous to carry out strikes in return . e-e in the zone of a nuclear power plant with e-e absolutely minimal consequences for the surrounding environment, but the use of artillery is certainly not

impossible. i think that the otaku has a certain vulnerability of ukrainian approaches due to the fact that the enemy is in those cities at the nuclear power plant and uses it for cover, including people there with non-dangerous facilities, this is precisely and er creates additional challenges for us today we have to rely on perhaps the support of international organizations, but their effectiveness as we we see on the basis of the united nations and the red cross that it is not always effective enough, and therefore we will probably have to make calculations regarding the conduct of some such point operations regarding the liberation of the the territories around the a-a nuclear power plant in the course of our further offensive actions, but this is a really serious challenge and how to ensure the safety of the nuclear plant to carry out the liberation of our er territories excuse

me, please antina, it is obviously necessary to er well, to beat the situation so that they themselves could be are interested in leaving the energodar zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. by the way, we talked about this with the old man, the head of the zaporizhzhia regional military administration, but how can it be implemented in a military way ? i understand the end as a civilian. in fact, i also understand the relatively serious challenge. we cannot conduct offensive operations there in a standard format, which means that we have to use either, on the one hand, a special unit, on the other hand, special tactics related to the use of point munitions there, but with on the other hand, this is the second stage, the first stage, for sure , it is still necessary to create the conditions, as we now conditionally speaking suggest that the enemy leave the right part of the dnipro in the zaporizhzhia zone when we block the supply lines and for now leave the ways of the enemy's retreat, but the enemy does not draw

conclusions. i am afraid that even around the zaporizhzhia npp, when we follow the scheme of displacing the enemy, the enemy will act as the most insidious and will still create challenges for the entire world community, we must also take this into account that is, an insidious enemy needs, well , it is much better on our part to plan the operation in order to minimize the risks of such a criminal activity that the enemy can implement in any direction. how quickly it will begin to bear fruit is an extremely difficult and painful question for me, because in fact the task of the agency is to speed up the receipt of foreign military aid, which we purchase with our own funds, and this was done by the special partners, now the role of the list sportsmen is completely minimized, and this new agency has to take over defense procurement the problem is that today

it is not equipped with professional staff, it does not have financing for its activities, and the impression is that now it is necessary significant intervention of all officials or this agency with e-e has worked, the formation of the agency was announced much earlier, but right now, its creation, it introduces certain difficulties into the work of the general procurement system, which was until now , that is, there are questions. thank you, mr. sergey serhiy zgurets, director of of the defense express consulting company was in touch with us now it's nine o'clock in the morning, which means that we will commemorate the daily traditional minute of silence for all those who died in the russian-ukrainian war with a minute silence in memory of ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine