hostages and acquaintances simply disappeared from the house, they arrived at the address. this is how they stole it. come on, they tie your hand and tie a noose around your head, too, like they mold a boa constrictor. i don't know what's better. when a rocket flies into your house, or when you are put against a wall in some basements, what is happening in kherson is very difficult to show with footage, because all the horrors and all that silent terror all happen in basements, if you are allergic to the drug cetrin, it is not important, what kind of pet do you have, what flowers do you like or what do your children secretly eat, these are three things that are important block allergic receptors and protect

the body from an allergic reaction already in 20 minutes, this three acts in the center of allergies, some creatures hunt washing machines . on the very shore of the black sea, since ancient times, the territory of modern odessa was a delicacy for the ottoman empire and the russian empire, nazi germany, and today for fascist russia, but don't be rude to my mother

ukrainian heart odesa unconquered unconquered cities of ukraine, our ship's capital is known for its moorings, bridges and happy brides, the glorious lands at the confluence of the ingulu and the bus estuary have long been closely connected with the zaporizhzhya cossacks and for centuries formed a free ukrainian spirit to fight, the city is named after the patron saint of sailors, st. nicholas always courageously fought against enslavement, as during the second world war hitler's troops shamefully fled from mykolaiv, the same fate awaits other occupiers who now they encroach on the glorious ship shrine despite the constant shelling of mykolaiv kordu sets

sails for the victory of ukraine invincible mykolaiv what is it we continue the saturdays and the political club vitaliy portnikov maria gurska works for you live and well vitaliy i would like that before we move directly to the topics of this week so that we can talk a little about what we heard from the experts, we listened to ihor romanenko's military forecasts and you know, i was touched this week so painfully by the post of one of our fighters this week, it's igor lutsenko, people's deputy of the 8th convocation, a participant in the revolution of dignity, and today a soldier of the armed forces writes in his blog that this war will most likely last for a long time in kharkiv oblast, we did not enter. now here in donbass , we are retreating, we are losing people planting fields, forests , lakes, ponds, rivers we are leaving the forests, ravines, levadas, dams every day, russia takes away from us the valleys, the slopes and

the steeps, and our country tane will evaporate like water in a day, like a sandy beach with limmore, meter by meter, and this is before my eyes, and i dig into the ground with my body like roots, we try to hold it so that it was not washed away so quickly into the abyss, we are paying a terribly high price for what slows down the throwing, but so far we have not been able to stop it, i don’t know if the rest of the country feels like every day the border of our space is moving westward, and in italy you know it sounds scary, it reminded me the movie is an endless story based on the book of mykhailo ende, where a boy fought in a fantasy world with a country with the forces of darkness who tried to actually destroy the fantasy country, which simply crumbled and disappeared into nothingness, and it is like this it's terrible, it's a terrible metaphor, and i never thought that such a country in fantasy could suddenly become our ukraine, you spoke well about fantasy, it's a good

image, and here i am for you. let me try to explain the situation less lyrically, because this is what wrote the game for me it's absolutely obvious. and a little piece of history, by the way, if you remember. i always say it, er, quite clearly, that ukraine has to pass two tests. the first is the ability of the ukrainian people to create a state. this is an important test. the second is the impossibility of existence. of an independent ukrainian state within the borders of the ukrainian ssr, this is also a very important bridge, as we wonder. let's take a look at the reality. in 1918, the independence of the ukrainian people's republic was proclaimed for the first time, which declared certain borders that had never been properly protected by the military forces of the ukrainian people's republic. the western ukrainian people's republic, well the western ukrainian people's republic was one way or another annexed to the polish state

with promises of autonomy that did not come as a result implemented, we will not talk about it now, let's talk about the ukrainian people's republic, the bolsheviks and almost immediately replaced the government of the ukrainian people's republic in kharkiv, which was essentially the same government of the states of ukraine as the government of the dpr or lpr, the government of the state of ukraine - it will be fake and as a result this government in this occupation war of soviet russia against the ukrainian state , he captured all the territory claimed or not claimed by the ukrainian people's republic, by and large the borders of this ukrainian republics that were applied to the ukrainian ssr were protected by someone else's army of the soviet army and a quasi-state was created on this territory. i think you will not argue with me that the ukrainian soviet socialist republic at the same time because

it was a member of the un there or something else it was quasi the state is not a real state because there was no real opportunity in it to be independent , even culturally, even athletically, no real power in this quasi-state was the territorial organization of the communist party of the soviet union, the central committee of which was located in the city of moscow, and the communist party of ukraine, it was not even an independent political party, it was not a party. it was a territorial organization of the cpsu, or as other lyricists like igor lutsenko liked to say at the time, and the communist combat unit of the cpsu, the main combat unit of the cpsu, we managed correctly, in fact, he managed these borders with which the bolsheviks experimented

in different ways, the soviets gave something to the russians , let's say taganrog or belkhar, they gave to the soviets russia could make a part of ukraine something, they decided that it would be part of ukraine after a discussion, let's say a large part of donbas was divided in half, half of donbas turned out to be in russia with the city of gukova, as i said, it has been a long time since it was a mining town, and half of donbas ended up in ukraine, and why not the whole of donbas in ukraine and why not the whole donbas to russia, well, this is a separate story, then stalin experimented with the occupation of the territory of neighboring countries, he explains that this is due to the need for the reunification of the ukrainian people, although for him the ukrainian people were only a pretext for occupation, you understand that stalin did not act in favor of the ukrainian people. this is how soviet ukraine appeared. lviv ivano-frankivsk ternopil region after the 39th year of the occupation of

poland . demands for the newly restored czechoslovakia, which definitely could not defend anything, and at the same time, before the second world war, stalin gave a fairly large territory of modern bessarabia, which was then called by the moldavian autonomous soviet socialist republic to create the moldavian ssr from part of this territory and the territory that was taken from romania, the territory of the romanian province of moldova, a new state, the republic of moldova, appeared. now it is called the moldavian soviet socialist republic, and khrushchev already gave crimea to this quasi-state which had common borders with it and did not have these common borders with soviet russia. here is a short essay for you. the question arises: can a quasi-state become a real one

a state can, of course, but for this the first two prerequisites are needed: the first prerequisite is that no one encroaches on its territory and, first of all, the metropolis itself, which created these borders through its own experimental goals, i again remind stalin and the russians, they created these borders in order for us to live well here in order for them to live well, and this is, you know, the creation of the borders of the dominion of the colony , what do you want, but not of an independent state, and the second premise is that if someone makes a claim to these borders, the state must be able to protect them by diplomatic means or if it fails to avert the military threat, the threat of annexation, the occupation session, then the military means is now taking place absolutely. i would say a significant period

of transformation of ukraine into a real state, a real state differs from a fictional state of fantasy, maria, in that it is able to protect its borders until this conclusion lutsenko also comes in his post, and this conclusion worries me the most, does every ukrainian in poltava, kyiv, lviv, anywhere feel what if he is now if he does not take up arms and defend his home, then tomorrow our country will not be swallowed up by it, this terrible nothing like this ate up the country's imagination , centimeter by centimeter, meter by meter, we destroyed all its beautiful landscapes, it will not be like that, all this is difficult. how you say it won't be a fantastic movie. it will just be the joining of certain regions of ukraine to the russian federation, i won't absorb it, nothing will just happen, there will be a dozen marginal regions, except who now remembers the kurgan region, the amur region, or some other region, i don't know, the voronezh region

of the russian federation, well, there will be kharkiv, kyiv, and chernihiv regions of the russian federation, if russia has a chance to win this war, no one will remember them, even the people who will live in these regions. i apologize. our task is to never happened so that ukraine would never become russia but again i repeat in order for this to happen we need to protect this territory, we need to prove to the russians the world and, by the way, to ourselves that this entire territory is on whose territory this is not the territory on which it was declared independent ukraine on august 24, 1991 that this is ukraine and it is because the independence of the ukrainian state was proclaimed within the borders of the ukrainian ssr and this is a huge problem that many people do not understand because it is important and it should be signed

agreements of bialyovez that guaranteed ukraine territorial integrity and actually regulated its exit from the body of the ussr. light act, but all this is in the past. i repeat again, the bialowieza agreement was aimed at the fact that a new union state would eventually appear without gorbachev, without a union center, the state of the president of which would be russian there, back in 1992, at that time the commander-in-chief of the collective armed forces, the fear of the country, marshal yevgeny shapochnikom, appealed to ukraine with the demand to stop violating the minsk agreement of the time. well , others were leaving egypt. he saw the violation in the fact

that ukraine had led to an oath to the ukrainian state the armed forces that were located on its territory , i.e. those military that served in three military districts on the territory of ukraine. so the ukrainians had a completely different view of what statehood would look like from the russians. it is obvious that if ukraine agreed to the fact that we have a common armed forces that us military command in moscow a common currency and a common foreign and domestic policy only eh places in the organization of the united nations are different but the ministry of foreign affairs of russia usually explains to the local law the case of ukraine as it should vote then whoever attacks us russia does not attack the republic of tatarstan yet, they do not even attack belarus, but keep troops in its territory to attack us. well, if we want true independence with institutions and the people's choice of their own path of development according to their culture in one's own language, it is a matter of joining the european union, independence is necessary or

to choose or to win in this struggle or to lose, but this is an absolutely normal historical process, therefore, unlike igor, i simply have a more pragmatic attitude towards this in history there was an incredible number of cases when peoples could not protect their statehood and then either disappeared in principle or ended up being part of the territory of other states that proved that they were able to prove their right to one or another foreign territory. i just want this not to happen to ukrainians, many can sit now it's at home to watch the national marathon, to think about what we have, actually, we are in the stage of counteroffensive, the war will end here, well, no matter what it is , counteroffensive, the word negotiations is constantly being heard, then odchizhory, then some kind of belching there will be negotiations, the politicians will agree and everything will be fine, as you understand, the problem is that it does n't matter what the people sitting on their couches in front of our television screen or in front of the

television screen of the marathon think , nothing depends on these people after february 24, it just is of the armed forces or it is impossible. they have to enter the armed forces of ukraine in order to protect their state and their children. those who are not capable of doing this must be introduced. it only creates problems for the armed forces. we are not russia, what are the people there? to call on the armed forces must be effective when they are competent, they must operate what they have learned in the soldiers, even operate with absolutely real equipment, people who do not want to protect the motherland and, in my opinion , only create problems for its protection, and i am well aware that i am many people who believe that statehood is not for them is a value. and by the way, the fact that we have so many such people has led to all these crises, and that is also the moment of truth. these people are so numerous that the ukrainian state will disappear from the political map of the world. are they still not so much, and the ukrainian state will remain on the political map of the world. this is one more moment, well, another very important moment of the 21st century is that now the

struggle of the ukrainian state, which is a struggle for international law, for the privat of international law, and by and large, it does not matter what will remain is the ukrainian state on the political map of the world or not , because states arise and disappear, these are completely natural processes, what matters is what you said about the inviolability of borders, the fact that one state can not annex the territory of another, that in in the 21st century, the bombing of peaceful neighborhoods and the expulsion of peaceful residents is beyond all the values ​​of humanity, when it was done by, say, the former yugoslavia led by sloboda under milošević, it was absolutely clear to everyone, and that is why, by the way, a special nato operation took place against yugoslavia when milošević decided to expel all the kosovars

90% of the population of kosovo was expelled from their homes from their land, but for them, too, the space of their country was reduced and they were simply all expelled. this is not what is happening to us. well, the west decided that he will bomb belgorod, other cities and yugoslavs until the moment until the yugoslav people's army leaves kosovo. this was absolutely the right action, the peculiarity of the current moment is that this is a struggle with a nuclear state, we do not know how it can end, whether it will end with the use of weapons of mass destruction with millions of victims or there are no reasons to outgrow the world war. by the way, there are such opportunities. well , we don’t know how much interest there is on them now, but again, it is possible for russia to return to the borders of the soviet union in 1991, this is an exceptional issue. this country, in principle, does not believe that it can exist in other borders, and if this is so, then we will see it and become either witnesses or victims of this huge catastrophe, and again, this does not

mean that the ukrainian state after this will disappear but it is possible that a large part of its territory will be in the zone of nuclear radiation what, by the way, may also happen in the event of an explosion at some bus stations that russia sets itself the task of controlling all ukrainian nuclear power plants, she will fight for it, at least when it comes to zaporizhzhia, we see it, of course, when you give masks to a nuclear power plant, something can happen, you just need to soberly understand the risk zone we are all in and not think that this conflict will really end easily and quickly, it is a long-term civilizational one a conflict with unpredictable consequences for all its participants, both for citizens of ukraine and for citizens of the russian federation , as well as for residents of the european union countries who found themselves next to this conflict, which is now in storage only that russia has not made a decision about the possibility of conflict with states that have nuclear weapons, when this decision is made, if it is made , the european country will also become the arena

of a huge bloody war with unpredictable consequences for its inhabitants, so that now it is safe only in north america until the possibilities of the very idea of ​​strategic nuclear strikes, and then if such a decision is made about the administrative methods of strikes, it will be safe in australia, new zealand, this is now a person whose a person can feel more or less stable, but i can't, we can't all take and move there now and build a country there, poland, france or canada, which means we will have to live in those countries that are at risk and in the zone of possible disappearance of civilization for the next ten years what would you do before, when before the war we often talked about the elections, you talked about the infantilism of a certain part of ukrainian society, and now, if there is any percentage , what is the percentage of citizens who believe that someone will come grown up and decide what for them, this is the highest time to wake up, grow up and, er, get a passport

, a military card, a personal identification card, go to the center of recruitment and social support, join the army and defend your home like him. as far as i understand, the armed forces of ukraine now have enough people to defend due to our lack of technical equipment, we recruited an army like the one the ministry of defense of ukraine talked about, only this army has something to fight for again, the number of people now does not create a situation that allows us to get the necessary the results of things are a good example - this is russia, they have enough people in principle, but all their high- precision missiles and everything else are running out. as you can see, they are slowing down, well, the equipment is coming, we see that this is very important. we heard about a new aid package from the united states, which it is being prepared, the cost will be a package of 1 billion dollars, the highest for all time since the beginning of a full-scale invasion , ammunition for khimars and anti-aircraft systems can also enter there, this is air defense and armored

medical vehicles. currently not signed into this package aid by president joe biden, it may still change. but it is obvious that in the near future, namely on monday, august 8, we will learn about what is included in this largest package of aid to ukraine in the 164 days of russia's war against ukraine. i want to say that this is not a war the time is not just to protect ukraine, the war is primarily a time for survival, the main value of the war period is the possibility of a person and the state to survive, because if a person dies or the state dies, then nothing happens after that, the person who dies cannot do anything to serve your country yourself or your children, nothing at night, so that the war is okt until february 24, you can say whatever you want, now the main task of any citizen of ukraine is also who is at the front to protect the country so who is here to survive from this point of view, i will tell you who supports me believes that ukraine needs to return. every new person who

returns to ukraine is an additional burden on the economy that does not exist . humanitarian aid, we have already talked about it once. i think the ministry of finance just said how much has already fallen in our nation, the truth is 73%. it seems to me that now we will check. and what does it mean that there will be no real work from ukraine, there will be no money, there will be no turnover, these people who can work abroad and at least help their loved ones here, they should do it because these people who come here and who have already found some possible way to live in other countries, they simply create an additional burden on this humanitarian help that still comes from taxpayers, you understand, when they work in germany or in poland, they themselves are taxpayers at the expense of which this country can continue to exist for some time because, again, even if we imagine that the russians

have already left our territory, we remain in a country with a destroyed infrastructure with a non-working economy with a reduced population and that and etc. and this country will have to be restored for many years and discuss the old economy to restore the one that was already there because it is no longer there most of these large enterprises build a new economy on what basis should we analyze to what extent the working capacity of the population that will remain on the territory of ukraine, in principle, allows building a new economy, these are difficult tasks , some of which may simply be incomplete solutions, so at the moment when a person returns with some kind of work place and pay- and trying to pay taxes and civilized education to the countries, she turns into that person who consumes and that person produces so and i sincerely urge everyone to do everything possible to help the country where people can do it, the inflation report of the national bank of ukraine says that in the 22nd year

, the fall in gdp will be the deepest in the entire history of ukraine . and the sri lankan scenario with the economy falling by more than 80% what you just talked about so let's talk about what's next french heat pit american philosopher political economist in one of his fresh forecasts for ukraine for america purpus says that the armed forces should hurry up and show success before the fall so that the european voters can see for themselves that there is no preserved conflict in ukraine, that their efforts are important and maybe they will have to freeze a little in the winter, but at least in this way it will be possible to protect democracy. what do you think about it and in what way? in what position are we today, what are our main tasks

now, do you understand, er, the war is on a theatrical performance in which something needs to be done before the holidays so that the premiere will be released on the new year, otherwise the audience will not they will come, their vacation will already be over, ukrainians have nothing to prove to anyone. they must work to liberate their territory as long as the war will take - this is not an election, this is not a job, not a european electorate, and not a theater, war - this is a long bloody work to liberate their homeland from the aggressor's work, which may turn out to be much longer and slower than it seems to mr. fukoyak, what else can i do, where can i finish, thank you, ah, now this is a fragment, by the way, i outlined this situation best the speaker of the house of representatives of the united states congress nensipilosa, i absolutely agree with her when she said that this is a real confrontation between

authoritarianism and the democrats, it is absolutely accurate, that is, there are several fragments of such a confrontation, russia, china, the situation in the balkans, we talked about this with valeriy chalem in our conversation at the beginning of this program and this confrontation will continue and intensify for one simple reason: authoritarian regimes cannot afford the luxury of the victory of democracy. that is why china is so tries all the time to create a guest society around taiwan. taiwan is a model of what chinese society is called by 90% of chinese people. some other

people can create an effective and efficient economy under a democratic one, that is, this whole myth that such an economy as china is possible only when you are ruled by the poli bureau of the communist central committee to the party of china, it is crumbling because hong kong is a non-proof, well, i'm sorry, oncologist, that a british colony well, it's clear that the british owned there, created their own banking institutions, then it and it is developing. well, it is clear. and taiwan was created by the chinese. the republic of china in taiwan is an alternative to the development that was adopted in beijing as a result of the victory of mao zedong's troops in the civil war. ukraine is, to a certain extent, an alternative to the russian path, because here, too, it is clear that another people slavic, which was 100 years old in the russian empire, can build a democratic society , therefore, of course, the success of ukraine is a blow to the choice of the

russian people, and by the way, they say that they always explained that we are poor, they are rich, it all came to a head when the war started and when they started stealing women's underwear and toilets with all their great wealth, cars. so what does that mean we can't have an effective state? that's why it's just anarchy - it's also loud because it turned out that we have a strong armed forces - it is an institution, if we are serious, we have a lot of such institutions, but in any case, russia cannot afford the luxury of having democratic former soviet republics next to it, you understand, and therefore they must be destroyed as they should be an element destroyed and at least even if they exist they cannot be part of the western world what russia basically tried to prove the second point the same applies to the balkans where in

serbia they cannot agree with the fact that this country will not be let's say such a small russia for the kosovar albanians or for north macedonia and she is trying to play it too and such examples can be cited in a huge number and that is why i say that people need to understand and accept that the next years in the history of mankind are approximately the next 25-30 years will be 10 years of constant conflicts, including hot ones. well, we just need to realize that peace in the sense that we had in mind ended with vladimir putin's decision to start a big war against ukraine because all other authoritarian regimes can no longer let me say that