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the introduction of war, but it seems that this information explosive did not work, but on the contrary revealed the weak points and plans of the aggressor. there will be love. tsibulska, the founder of the center for strategic communications and information security, is glad to see you here. you see, we agreed, but before we begin to analyze this complex special operation of the kremlin, let's start let's figure out what happened in general, what kind of event is this, what kind of report is it, why did it explode into the world? the international human rights organization international will publish its report. now we will see it on the screens. hospitals, schools, and now
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we can quote a fragment written by representatives of amnesty international, the ukrainian military endangers the civilian population by creating bases and using weapons systems in in residential areas, in particular in schools and hospitals, when they try to repel the russian invasion , ukraine's tactics violate international humanitarian law because it overflows civilian objects with military ones, so russian strikes on populated areas led to the death of civilians and the destruction of civilian structures end of quote and you know what outraged me ot in this report, about the actions of the russian military, about what they are doing on our land, about the fact that they are destroying the nation, well , not a single word was said, it seems to me really their words and their actions do not need confirmation. everyone already understood everything, but here is a very powerful accusation, a very authoritative organization, how did the world react to it? well, actually, let's look at it all from a different angle, all experts
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who deal with countering disinformation have long had questions to this organization, that is, to talk about the fact that this organization has absolutely no stains on its reputation, it is not possible, a-a, we continued and continue to ask them questions all these eight years a-a, and now we saw that they once again they confirmed theirs, i don’t want to say not for uh, uh, for eruditeness, but at least not for professionalism, so because we still need to investigate why they did it, uh, uh, in fact, there are also a lot of questions about the report itself, about the methodology , ah, what is this based on these are the conclusions of how many experts were interviewed who are these people who were interviewed now we see very hot discussions and uh in all social networks both in ukraine and in the world i see that twitter is exploding just because of this story and
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in fact we are supported by a lot of international experts having the same questions about the capacity of international, why is it like this, what is the methodology, why is it like this, where is the explanation what were you guided by when you made such conclusions oleg, the secretary, she says what they say to the ukrainian troll and russian trolls and we know our work we will work, that is, they continue to stand their ground, well, they just accused us of disinformation, our position is unshakable, and everything else is already discrediting our work. and, moreover, they don’t give any explanations as to how they gathered the information. yes, but at the same time the head of the ukrainian office of emnosti international resigned, and this is actually such a very revealing step. she wrote in her post that she hoped until the end that the report would be corrected, that the decision would be somehow
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influenced, obviously, the decision of the central office was final, so we see that emnosti international is once again tainted, but the ukrainian division of internationalism was not involved at all in this work, in this analysis , in this report. in ukraine, in the war zone, who could analyze what happened in donetsk region, that they were in mykolaiv, and their opinions seem to be based on this, and about what it is. what i saw was not how the international human rights community and ukrainian human rights defender colleagues reacted in general . international, we talked with oleksandr pavlichenko, the executive director of the ukrainian helsinki union in ukraine. here's what he told us, let's listen to the important
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remarks even regarding the materials prepared by amnesty international regarding ukraine, and we remember that ukrainian human rights defenders criticized them quite seriously when it was stated that there are hospitals in five cities in ukrainian military bases were placed in medical institutions for a second, this is nonsense because we have information and collected data that no ukrainian e-e-e institution was placed e-e-e of the armed forces now what could it be about let's say this abandoned well, uh, a settlement that already uh,
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for example, there is actually no civilian population from where the evacuation took place and probably already half-destroyed institution in this medical institution , soldiers can be stationed, it no longer functions as a medical situation, we are talking about and the accusation, i will tell you for a second in the commission of a war crime, and there it is about it, and the last subsection is called ukraine has committed a war crime, that is, if you accuse of committing a war crime, then you must clearly state the arguments and i will tell you what if payment capacity international in their standard , they put photos of those who have nothing to do with the school, as they think
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, or with the medical institution, these are the ukrainian soldiers who stand on the defensive slavic and their photo is used as a let's say so er, in the context of accusing them that they endanger the civilian population, this is already manipulation. here are examples of manipulations, manipulating the fact that they do not understand er, these norms and indicate that there is, as it were, a categorical ban on the use of school premises, there is no such categorical ban, so look at it in the same way that you are prohibited from staying in other civilian institutions of the military that protect and perform the function of protection. well, in fact, as i see it through the eyes of amnesty
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international, how should we act, the ukrainian military well, they should go out into the field like in the middle ages, stand er with the flags of ukraine opposite, the russian military should look out and the battle should begin yes and here whoever wins will win, but i'm sorry, but it was russia who first started shelling ukrainian cities yes, we remember shelling of kyiv well, let's not go far, and mariupol is completely destroyed, the bombing of the maternity hospital is the bombing of the drama theater in mariupol, that is, what other evidence do we have to give to the world in order to say that it is russia that is doing this, and not ukraine, and we are defending ourselves in the conditions where we are. our military is defending there, there was an example of slavinsk, yes, they are in slavsk, where are they located? i apologize to them for leaving, so that the russians would go there and organize another bucha there, we have already seen what happens in
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ukrainian cities when the russians go there the military, when there is no resistance from our army at the initial stage, the genocide of the ukrainian people is taking place there, the civilians are being destroyed , that is, the capacity offers us such a development of events . it turns out so correctly, and for some reason it is an information bomb because when russia bombed the mariupoli drama theater or the maternity hospital, it was already there she said all the russian propaganda , russian officials said that they are bombing it because our military is there and now the container is taking and actually confirms the thesis we will add the completely false thesis of russian propaganda, russian propaganda, we will not show screenshots, they are now showing screenshots of the report in their news and writing that they claim that the ukrainian army uses civilians as a living shield, and this is confirmed by the
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international human rights value with every story , now they refer to our international media say that international human rights defenders say that you use civilians and defend yourself with them well, but all this reminds me of do you know when the victim hit the rapist with a vase and he did not expect it because he thought that the kitchen knives were in the kitchen and he did not expect that he would be hit with a vase and he was indignant simply because she crossed out the vase for the wrong purpose well, we are we understand the complete absurdity, but the world in some part of it is, well, this thesis that is being spread by the media has found some support. has anyone besides the kremlin and russia reacted to this report ? as much as its beneficiaries would like, in fact, here it must be understood that the world has long loved part of it, part of it.
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in particular, the western community has been blaming the victim for a long time, well, that is, this battle continues and in the information field of the event, some people constantly say that ukraine in ukraine must be helped at any cost because it is a fight against the evil of the great evil, others say that ukraine itself provoked a lot of this and we have to admit that these voices are heard because there are a lot of russian lobbies in european capitals, because russia buys journalists very often because, in principle, a lot of people look at the world through a prism of russian propaganda and uh, now we see that there are media such as new york times, i watched their article, they talk about all this. yes, but at the same time, they protect
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the international containers carefully, so uh, well, this will continue until we fight russia, that is, russia is promoting this narrative that ukraine is to blame for the past eight years, and of course this resonates with many people, and of course our struggle is only now becoming the most difficult, this is the first phase of the war , i would say we won so informationally because we have shown everyone that it is russia, we have shown what russia is doing what is genocide and that it is definitely russia, now we need to get all the help and russia will do everything possible to deprive us of this help after all, only with help can we overcome it without help, we will be alone with this terrible monster, but at the same time, our representatives of the authorities, iryna vyryshchuk, the vice-prime minister of ukraine, uh, other representatives of the authorities are calling on the civilian population to evacuate
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from the kherson region, they said from donetsk region well because to say that there were no signals and in general we cover ourselves with the civilian population is completely impudence to say such a thing and it is ridiculous, we understand it, and the people who are there, possibly americans, who do not follow all the information, they read like this and thought like this well, maybe everything is really so ambiguous, it was calculated in the same way, was it an extraordinary population or just to discredit us at the world level, it’s very hmm, that’s how it fits, uh, in this whole, i advised that you suffer because of ukraine, you will have to pay more for gas, you suffer because of the refugees, in fact, this propaganda is very powerful now in the west. yes, the teachers don’t want to pay so much for heat in the winter, and here are the ukrainians. who and the walls themselves are allegedly endangering civilians. that’s all because of them, these people are
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then a danger what is the matter with these ordinary people who receive this information in social media everywhere and may not even read it, but some authoritative er-e unconscious media. they will then ask questions of their er-e hmm government yes and governments are governed hmm by the wishes of the voters accordingly when the germans will come to them in the winter, the average statistics will say, why do we pay more, why, uh, now the standard of living has decreased, the level of income, and at the same time we give so much to ukraine , this is a long game, and we need to learn to defend ourselves systemically and it will continue for a long time some time ago and there will be many of these. well, it must be admitted that there will be many such information bombs because the kremlin has many agents in european institutions, the raffle of such a powerful card took place
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yes, with this reporting, that is, the kremlin was counting on a specific reaction from the world so absolutely, and we are still watching what they say on their propaganda channels and they say, look even. these are human rights defenders who are allegedly always on the side of ukraine, that is, they separate , they do not want to be associated with with them, they even confirm that the ukrainians are putting the civilian population at risk. this also shows us that there is such a crisis, a serious crisis. there are a lot of these institutions. all these institutions produce a lot of documents and say a lot of words. they have very large budgets, but in fact they are so barren, er, they are not effective, and when a genocide takes place right in the center of europe, they just shrug their shoulders and say well, well, you see
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, that is, nothing, we are looking at the un, we are looking at amnesty international to various other organizations , and we see that there is still no clear, understandable answer to ask. did you mention the un? did you speak at the un? did you have the opportunity? i would like to hear from you. we speak with diplomats that this structure well , it is clear that the radbez is blocked by russia, but in general, it has discredited itself as much as possible in this war. and here are your own feelings, and my feelings were such that i admire ukrainian representatives at the un because it must be of a very high level uh, that passion a and what to represent ukraine like that , uh, in fact, platforms where people go, countries present their position are important, but it cannot be
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limited only to this well, that is, if russia is blocking , then something must be done about it, we know that russia went there as the legal successor of the soviet union, this is also a question of what right does russia have to stay there and have the right of veto, therefore, in fact, there are many questions to the un, the issues are constantly discussed, yes , they are discussed within the un, someone is looking for the speeches of serhiy kislitsy, our post at the un, he constantly refutes the fakes of mr. on the band of the representative russia does not constantly try to emphasize what it is worth , it's just me, it's just his speech about what's on the band, he says to the whole un, he says that the military in buch are russian, they gave dry rations to ordinary people to the citizens, but then our mr. kislytsia continues to talk about how they throw explosives into the basements after that. how do they give the suhpankas and people some kind of report and say, quote to the end. yes, but
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after that, grenades flew there in this basement. act understanding we understand well because the complexity of this structure ah and there are movements you see you feel you saw to solve these problems i wouldn't say that i saw but i don't belong to the un, you understand, that is, i was invited to speak, i spoke i listened to everyone, and there is such a pattern that those countries that are more dependent on russia take such a position, very neutral, moderately , yes, those countries that supply us with weapons, their position is clear and understandable. eyes to see that everything he says is one solid lie. well, one of them is nothing. there were no words of truth at all, but this lie is skillfully constructed, that is, he collects some particles
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, refers to the media, to ukrainian politicians, to of ukrainian officials and makes up such a puzzle that for such an average person who generally does not follow the situation there very much, i even admit, it can look convincing, that is, again there sounded this thesis about russophobia, and this is actually the case with us. we know that our russophobia is not enough. and many people are outraged by this, well, friends, now there is a short break for a few minutes, we will return to the conversation on we will add yevhen fedchenko, editor-in-chief, stop-fade , director of the mogilian school of journalism, to our broadcast and we will looking for answers, what meanings does russia lay down, playing out this stage of the information special operation, let's come back, uncomfortable questions, witty conversations, inside bayrak, every friday, 9:00 p.m. in marathon, the only news, kateryna osadchai's project to search for the missing,
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varta 1+1 let's go back on the air and continue our difficult conversation and here you know, friends, the first stage of the special operation of the information special operation of russia is mentioned, they tried to prove in this world that in ukraine, fascism in ukraine, nazism in ukraine eat children, ukraine is under external control, anything ah in order to at least somehow justify their military aggression, but they did not succeed and they moved on to the next stage, in fact, they are trying to discredit this western aid. let 's add yevgeny to our conversation fedchenko of the editor-in-chief column director of the mogilian school of journalism good evening and me good evening good evening congratulations at the beginning we came up with the thesis that russia is starting to
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act out a new scenario of the information company and it is obvious that the supply of weapons to ukraine is the most painful story for them today. they are trying to at least somehow influence the west so that the world does not transfer these weapons to us how do you see the playing out of this story from the international emblem and in general with this concept well, i think that really the russians have identified for themselves the supply of weapons as the main priority, and now all these materials that are appearing somehow fall into this narrative, which russia is very interested in promoting. again, regardless of whether we directly bring any materials we suspect that russia is behind them, or indirectly from our point of view, if the capacity report reinforces some russian narratives. he
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works for russia and against ukraine in this. we do not say that we know that some russians came from a bag of money and they brought it there, it works much more complicated and there are a lot of nuances of how this can happen, it's really a very troublesome job to make sure that exactly such a report appears at this very moment. we also see materials including there is a tv movie that appeared on its own , an article from the financial times, they all hit the same point, it's to draw attention to one simple point that ukraine is such a black hole, an abyss into which it will all disappear and therefore, before giving weapons to ukraine, give them to ukraine some kind of financial help, think about where it will all disappear, and of course, russia was happy to pick up this communication relay
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in the container, here they worked well in communication, and literally the next day, the russian embassy in london tweeted that is the largest communication hub of russia in europe where he praises everything and says well, you didn't believe us and now this is what an independent organization is saying and they have always been looking for such sources that they can refer to when they can say it's not us we are talking about the fact that this is the way things are, it is said there because the media is some world-famous or some human rights organization. and when there was no such thing, they were forced to create even this, they were forced to come up with such moments, and here everything played absolutely into their hands, everything appeared again well , just at the moment when it was supposed to appear, therefore it is absolutely obvious that this is a purposeful company working that has its own time
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frames and its goal is precisely to disrupt the supply of weapons, because it is impossible to do it, but slow down at the bureaucratic level, introduce some additional intermediate links, cast doubt in those countries in which these doubts can take root very well, where the political system can be well- adjusted to perceive such doubts, where there is not very much support in the media in ukraine. of course it uh will work uh pretty well and i even watched this movie myself it 's aimed at an american audience i just looked at the comments that go right after this movie absolutely interesting month in this movie yeah it's absolutely uh. it's a strange combination of circumstances that i will also comment on in this film

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