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its time frame and its purpose is precisely, well, if not to completely disrupt the supply of weapons, because it is impossible to do it, but to slow it down at the bureaucratic level, to introduce some additional intermediate links, to throw doubts in those countries in which, uh, these doubts can very well take root, where the political system can be well-adjusted to accept such doubts where there is not much support in the media in ukraine of course it will work well enough and i even watched this film for myself and it is designed for an american audience i i just watched the comments that follow immediately after this film absolutely. in this film, absolutely. it is a strange song of circumstances that in this film also comments on ukraine. if you cross the black abyss, the
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weapon also disappears, and the representative of the container. this adds, so to speak, an additional flavor to this situation, and i am one such person there . an important point is that she constantly compares this situation with afghanistan and cancer, since she is an expert on all armed conflicts that have occurred in recent decades, and this comparison also works against ukraine because the one who understands domestic american politics very well, and he knows that the story with afghanistan is an absolutely losing story, and therefore, in principle , public opinion there is also preparing for what the biden administration said. and now they are preparing another foreign policy fiasco, and we are already seeing more and more examples because of how this is all unfolding, that is why some important narratives for russia are being built here, and they will of course reinforce them in the united states, and they have such an opportunity at
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very different levels through experts who are with them work due to the presence of social media, by the way, it has remained almost unchanged there or is being renewed, at least let’s say so, and in principle there are quite a few platforms through which it can promote such messages quite effectively, tell me more about pseudo-european experts and how russia uses them now well , actually we have been working with such experts for more than 8 years and during this time we have seen a huge number of experts and various people involved in the process of adopting political decisions and european countries that occupy e by the way, they still take a completely pro-russian position and if in the first days of the war it was somehow not very convenient to express them, now all these voices have returned and they can be found everywhere from the european parliament to think tanks to
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human rights defenders and international other organizations besides them carry uh, there are a lot of journalists who work in international media. and that is, they are actually the ones who shape the agenda of how people should think about something, and there is more to be done here one thing i wanted to add is that before your thesis, the center for countering disinformation of the russian federation has prepared a whole list of specific people who work in the kremlin and who help russia implement narratives. we can now demonstrate these people. they approached this very thoroughly. they gathered some professors from some institutes expelitics, there are high-ranking officials who were involved in certain matters, and it is specifically written which cases they beat, which ones they play in the information space, i.e. the usual an american takes the morning newspaper yes and reads there er
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ex er congressman a-a writes an authoritative yes who was there in three convocations of the congress there and writes about the fact that there is no need to give weapons to ukraine because there are facts that these weapons end up on black markets, and everyone knows about it, and of course the american opens his computer there after that and he receives a message that he will help the ukrainian army to overcome russian aggression. yes, he is thinking of donating a few dollars there. listen, i see a congressman. informs about what is not needed to do this, because it will end up on the black market , and he does not do this, yes. and these are the small elements that seem to form such a global picture. that we are now
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dealing with such a communication system. and when it is absolutely unimportant what is happening, what is really important is who and how explains it, the argument is if you said that they read in the morning some former or current politicians they cite facts, but in fact if we look at all these materials, there are no facts, this is a trade in doubts, but doubts are simply expressed, questions are raised , and in principle it looks quite legitimate , because if, for example, the united states gives weapons to ukraine, they seem to have the right ask these questions. and where does she dress from this point of view? for example, if journalists raise these questions, it's like in the cbs movie. and it looks like everything is normal, but that's another matter who and how answers these questions and how all this is attracted to form the necessary perception is a completely different story, moreover, we
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must understand that the western political system and intellectual system is based on the fact that there must be doubts about everything that is needed about everything to argue and the truth is somewhere in the middle, and the media itself and the system of political discussions in any country are built on this, it is considered normal to doubt this, but it makes us very strange and uncomfortable position because then what happens is what dmytro kuleba called false equivalence , that is, on the one hand, they put the victim, on the other hand , they put the aggressor and say, now let's give you a minute and a minute for you. explain, the audience will make a decision. which of you is more right or which of you is less right and this is happening again for the last 8 years. since we have been working with this material and this situation has not changed, i wanted to
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ask. yes, you were creating a center of strategic communications. yes, and an information center. of security, we could somehow understand in advance that russia is planting these canned goods all over the world in the information in order to later play them out in the information space, we could and we understood this . they said that, but i also agree that there is still a crisis in journalism, and yevhen mentioned this, that these voices have been appearing for a long time, they actually appeared who , uh, supported russian propaganda, i'll just tell you, they made the stories of the article about the fascists in actually, ukraine got a plot, well, apparently there are people of such views everywhere. but since they
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showed ukrainian fascists and it was embedded in the russian narrative, it looked like it was not just some fringes in ukraine, but such a large-scale serious movement. and again, we are looking at what is sowing doubt about the fact that the article about where the weapons supplied by the west are going is of an unknown type, we do not know where in fact it is possible that they are being sold somewhere, there is no evidence at all, simply a question is asked, a question is asked, a question is asked , you are accused and then you have to dance to prove that you are not a giraffe, you have to explain, and this is the kind of technology that actually works all these years, we have tried many times to prove to the west that we are not fascists, although from the very beginning, this is already it it's not fair, that is, there are objective data, you can count, you can look, you can compare with other countries, no one and everything, how many
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fascists are there in russia? well, in fact, this is a massive, large movement, and we will now look at the imperial march and their they when they spent uh there in the 13th 14th year uh with plastic with the letter z performing uh and their children like that and for them it is not fascism and we have to make excuses but we we it seems to me that somehow our society we that's how we reacted to it, we laughed with the russians when we heard that the russians were telling us that the fascists had seized power in ukraine, the nationalists had seized power in ukraine, we laughed because it was funny to us because it has no confirmation because, well, we live here, i heard this very opinion very often that like how could we take it seriously and ours at the time, we did a study with colleagues called image of europe in the russian media. the idea was to show europeans what they say about them. do you believe that we are such fascists here? crazy, look, they don’t say that about you, and we
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traveled there to many institutions in almost all countries, showing that means making the report literally and it was counted negative mentions and all these narratives were counted and as a result i remember we presented as a couple and i remember one of the french diplomats took the floor and he says you know it's all so surreal that it's hard to take it seriously and we're like that yes, that's exactly what it is and it's also surreal for us, we also can't believe that you believe in russian propaganda about us, but in fact, while we were laughing, while we thought that everyone they understand how ridiculous it is , russia was able to dehumanize us in the eyes of the russians, and that's why this is this extreme cruelty and that's why i recently watched a film from buchi where the russian military told journalists why are you filming this
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dirt about ukrainians, he says this is dirt and this brings us back to the holocaust. that is, it is this, and it is genocide after the thorough systematic dehumanization of the deprivation of us that you this product was directed purely to the domestic consumer in russia and they what to russia yes, but what they said about ukraine in the west definitely this on the undermining of trust and on these doubts that ukraine is a subject and that it is worth having any kind of partnership with ukraine, but today they have a task in russia, but at the beginning they talked about it to discredit the supply of weapons to us, but i will not to show screenshots of these messages, but just for the audience, we will remind them that they promoted in their media the russian army captured french guns, caesar da fake has already been disproved a million times, but they continue to talk about it in the media, the ukrainian military sells western
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weapons in the darknet, and they are completely falsified or there are even advertisements with photos of the javelin that say it can be purchased. and here is the latest masterpiece, which seems to me to be more like a scream of eternity, that the zsu sold the heimer to russia for 800,000 $, because the journalist sends this military expert to the french expert that the french expert gave him this information that the armed forces of ukraine allegedly sold heimers. $ or this is not verified information yet, and there are messages on social networks about the fact that the ukrainian military sold us one house. there were reports that they sold two caesar self-propelled guns. well, this message is also from french sources
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so far, there is no photo or video with them. well, as you already know, almost all types of ammunition, that is, the ammunition of manpads and anti-tank missiles that were supplied, asked whether they had already fallen into the hands of our soldiers. then these systems will be in our hands in social networks, french sources said. we are laughing again, it is not funny to us, but it is funny to me, but i am watching, i am sitting. excuse me, some wolf who refers to some messages in social networks about what, how, how can you sell haymus? well, i think what is there, well, it is impossible at all, but not to discuss the toilets and washing machines that they did not rob, they think maybe so and let them add you well, maybe they have such a thing for themselves, but again , this is for the domestic consumer in russia and the external consumer in the world, yevgeny how do they play uh and how will they continue to play
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if we put together, for example, these messages that we just discussed there, add here the capacity report, the cbs movie and more and more and more and more then we will see that there is a big campaign going on what is next and how much are we we can wait what at some point on success yevgeny you and us are actually really waiting for your return now it takes a few seconds to establish contact and we will come back about how long we have to wait next with this draw congratulations now yevheny communication from yevheny let's go uncomfortable questions witty conversations the most interesting inside byraktar fox every friday 21:00
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reacting to this, well, it is still a certain pressure, can they really relax the supply of aid weapons to us, or has europe already learned to separate one from the other look at one thing, there are officials, governments, there are partners who have learned, but we do not forget that they have voters, and this is the key factor, because russia is targeting these voters so that they put pressure on their government, and this is the danger. therefore we need to understand that we will fight this for a long time and systematically and not get tired, it is very important to keep saying the same thing, their task is not only to deprive us of weapons, but also to weaken sanctions. and this is another separate front where
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a fierce struggle is taking place, russia is now trying to persuade the whole world that sanctions don't work and it's an absolute lie because we she wouldn't put so much effort into this propaganda if they really didn't work and we know that little by little this stranglehold on russia's neck is tightening and that we will come to the moment when russia already has eyes the russians, who are so poor, will become even poorer and hungrier, and they will ask the government. and how is it? that is, it is just a process. i am worried that the governments of many countries of the world seem to be waiting for something like that, so that their population will start to pressure them to reduce aid to ukraine, so that they they could rely on something, but they can't just rely on the fact that listen, well, we've been cooperating with russia for so many years, we have such and such turnover, we earned so much, let's talk about it,
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they can't, they need some kind of foundation yes i will discuss the issue of what they are delaying with sanctions with help with everything with everything and this is the support of the people and the desire for them to be able to sleep say listen well really well you see the citizens are saying that well help now yes the energy crisis is called europe this winter and they are starting to offer people let's reduce the temperature in the batteries there from 20 to there 17 degrees."
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against values, and this crisis of values ​​in european and international institutions is what it is about. well, it is already exploding, it must be resolved, otherwise we will go very far, otherwise we will just, well, that's it. europe will be enslaved by russia, well, we also can't constantly raise the level of shocking the world, that's how it turned out. well, i didn't. well, i was actually shocked, but now we can show footage of o already appeared in evgeny, then we will show zaporizhzhia, uh, yevgeny , what did we end with, how will russia continue to play out this story, what should we expect, and while you were gone, we discussed the fact that sometimes european leaders find it very convenient when such stories appear in their mass media it changes public opinion
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inside the country and they have something to rely on in the justification of the refusal to help ukraine, what can we expect? i think that we will see even more materials on this topic, which will once again, er, lay this culture of distrust towards ukraine, and it really plays into the hands of quite a lot of people to governments that will only look for such a formal excuse not to do something. we are already noticing a certain slowdown in the pace of arms supplies from certain countries. for example, we also saw this week that a survey was published in germany, where fewer people are now already speaking out in favor of supplying ukraine with weapons, that is, such things. they have a direct practical impact on support for public opinion, and we must
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understand that they will gather somewhere. and it will be exactly the same story how is it that we have a connection today? that is, these are systematically such cool thoughts and theses, and we will not listen to them again , and this increase in the degree of this suffering, in fact, the problem still lies in the fact that the normalization of the suffering of ukrainians is already taking place everyone got used to it, they watched bucha, then they watched vinnytsia, they watched mariupol, and it has already turned into a kind of certain show, so i was, i would talk about the fact that this is our communication with suffering. it will work less and less. unfortunately, for us, it is very it hurts, i will kill you.
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but why is there less talk about the deer now that the russian military could have destroyed the prisoners of war ? in the perception of many, it is already such a black hole where everyone suffers, dies and everyone is in pain, when it is all white noise in ukraine, there is a war, people are dying there, oh, oh, oh, but we went to uga not long ago, i would suggest communicating more about what we are able to win and end this discomfort with gas and food for you and end suffering for us, give us weapons, impose sanctions and we will win, but in conclusion, i still want to say a positive opinion that the help of the west has such an effect on events at the front and western weapons are so correct and work great. what the russians have focused on. only now in the
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information space, they produce almost nothing except the story about sanctions, but this is also a very painful story for them, so we know that if we continue to receive weapons like this, then they will be completely defeated it will not pass, let 's not have long left. let's show the video that i wanted when we talked about what level of shock the next gave can be caused in the world by what zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant insider's edition published a video of how the russians drive their military equipment there and hide it right in the premises of the power units, then trucks drive by and here an armored personnel carrier drives right into the premises that is located in the shelter of the power unit, that is, russia in fact and well, this is a fact, yes , they had an example on more than one occasion chornobyl and at the chernobyl nuclear power plant i use power plants as storage for my equipment and for
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my troops, he is shocked video and what was the reaction of the iaea, well, the iaea is a very cool structure it is very similar to ennesty international which yes b which also employs representatives of russia, the deputy head of megate, on a permanent basis, this is a representative of rosatom, who is replaced by another, and russia rosatom finances a huge amount and almost any projects of wealth that the iaea offers, and that's why when we were on the air with you, the representative of energy atom of ukraine, he says what is the meaning of the structure that ignores all these events, and in addition, in all these directives of the iaea memoranda signed on nuclear security, there is not a single point on how to respond to military conduct of war on the territory
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nuclear power plants. well, nothing is said about it, and that is why, of course, they condemn it, but they look at their own introductions and do not find answers to even simple questions, so they cannot do anything. if you look at the financing of the international capacity, there are also structural divisions in russia and funding goes to this rights protection organization with the russian federation and the lion's share of money goes to this story with funding in russia, we can't do anything anymore, we can only this way discuss, seek the right answers and hope that at least ukrainian society will understand these events. well, although i do not know at all whether there is anyone in ukraine who believes in this , i will point out that ukraine worked on the international environment and, in principle, it worked as an informational noise, and then it did not everyone heard and no one reacted because it is understood that this is all nonsense,
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