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anywhere we make it work we are very comfortable sleeping somewhere in a trench not our victory but after that a delicious battalion of inventors here is our front, the program has started. and i'm sitting and thinking about something again. good health, anzhelika, seasonally, mykola, you can see september right on your screens, and it is possible that you will see the deputy head of the center of strategic communication and information security of mykola balaban oh exactly you see how it happens and we saw it beautifully mykola look we will talk about it about it darkness international and it is important about it yes well what about and about what else about it and in principle it is just like that a worldwide disease that even such, so to speak, social organizations

turn into such bureaucratic organizations where the official already decides who is good and who is bad, whether it is necessary to declare some russian dissidents there , do i have a conscience with them, or not, or is it necessary ukrainian to blame the armed forces for the fact that they are to blame for this and not the russian civilian armed forces, that is, sooner or later any such organization turns into such a bureaucracy that works for itself . this is in the discussion that now dominates in intellectual circles and not only in the west, so the problem is that people try to cover a story, this is the so-called attempt to highlight two sides of the conflict

to describe that both those who are not good and those who are not good, there is no truth , that is, you know, this post is such a world, a post of truth, where are people trying, well, that is, there is no truth, there is a point of view, and if we present one point of view, then we have to present another point of view point of view, and in this way, it is as if this classic western european discussion, on which all generations of intellectuals grew up there since antiquity, turns into such a simple permanent discourse where there should be two points of view, and the truth is somewhere in the middle, and here is actually the situation with it is very reminiscent of emnisty, it is very reminiscent if you analyze and read this document in its entirety. they try to somehow criticize both here and there, which is absolutely unfair from the point of view of the truth , because, well, again, how can you blame the victim for trying to

defend herself that is, this is the key point and under, well, this is what you know as false - false impartiality , that on the one hand, these organizations, we can also talk about the un, other big organizations, on the one hand, they want to emphasize their partiality, but because of the effort to create this without partiality, they create this, uh, false narrative that plays very well into the hands of russia, but mykola, well, look, that's why i think about it that when it's the un, it's the states, each state has its own interest when it appeared to me there were no walls to ours , there were no states there, there was an uncle who read the newspaper and then realized that it was necessary to fight for specific people who are specifically suffering from specific states, first of all, it was just a protestant international, it was for protection in the struggle between

citizens and the state. it was in portugal. there was a fascist regime. well, in short , a person appeared, and when exactly such non-governmental and public organizations and millions of people who simply pay money for justice appear and then the question arises. and i say fate in general, european philosophy, the foundations of european philosophy, about which you say that on the one hand, on the other hand, well, you can certainly behave like this for a very long time, confusing the attacker and the victim. well, she wore a short skirt like this she was raped like this, and what do you do to them, what is it, what is it , what is it, she is walking around in a short skirt, this is such a modern abuser and then the question arises - will humanity in the world change something in its attitudes towards such moments because when the times wrote

today that this is a disaster, that they should be liquidated, in fact, what is he calling for, so you, to me, this is the only thing that should disappear somehow, the ukrainian office is the right decision in your opinion . problems do they really want to sneeze at you nasty international, but what they think about them, see first of all i want to rest with you when actually rest on the question of how s- europe is actually changing, that's what we see with our eyes, this article in britain, this pressure, the international course critical of the behavior of the international capacity, it shows exactly reflects the situation of change, e-e, departure from this, e-e , from these principles, e-e, which were guided before , that is, look, we have this situation that in the 13th year of amnesty international, it was more than once, well that is, there were more reports than this, there

were many questions to them because of 2014, that is why in ukraine there is also before the actual russian-ukrainian war , that is why we have, that is why it seems to me that the world is moving in the right and in the right direction, that it is being criticized, i think that it is just a precedent of ukraine in the world, we ourselves now see that a lot of things are changing, those that were considered important for us to change now they are completely now now everything has changed, for example there with the same full support of ukraine from the western western countries in the 14th year, we could only dream there. now, weapons and equipment and financial support. that is, we have it all now. regarding your question about ennesty international in ukraine. was the wrongness of the actions of the head of the capacity, what did she understand? it

seems to me from the very beginning, well, what was it about, what was in this, what was in this report. therefore, maybe this is the best thing that she did like that, maybe it will also attract unnecessary attention of these international because as i understand it, emnost is a consortium of many organizations and there are a lot of different players, even internally, and accordingly it can be a kind of push to improve the mechanisms. ukraine and the world must rethink itself, and the problem here is that the world usually rethinks itself as a result of world wars. i hope that this time there will be some kind of exception

so that we do not reach a situation before a world war. but do you believe in the possibility of rethinking the un, rethinking unesco, rethinking the osce, the re- thinking of magete, which we talked about today in the program about the zaporizhzhia station about the rethinking of such voluntary volunteer organizations, which minority international where millions of people pay money every day, yes, thinking that this is just money for justice, and no no to something else and now we see that criticism of the un yes criticism there is criticism and they and this criticism is valid it can not always be baseless criticism just all of them that's great, and we'll come up with something here, then something can happen after the war. do you think that we must wait for the third world war, then as

a result, another un will appear ? the rethinking of at least these huge global organizations will be a rethinking of their role, and no, no , it is not necessary for this, it seems to me that the world is learning from its mistakes since the 19th century, and that no, no, no, there will be no need for another world war in order to rethink and rework these structures. it's just that we just see this unprecedented system. it's just that russia has never had such a conflict, when i mean a huge one, not a global one, but in the 21st century, there was no such conflict where such a large country as russia with nuclear weapons is there with colossal opportunities for the sale of hydrocarbons. it can uh, well, that is, it can

become such a counter counter world power. there will be a place on the world map in the future of russia, because if we believe you that there will be a rethinking, then the scope of rethinking includes the presence or absence of russia in the form to which we are used to organizations or not at all, just like the role of russia, well, listen to this, a superpower, this is a big one strength well, at least until the 24th of february of this year, it was considered so, now russia is showing its guts and china and yordagan and many other countries and all if they either simply ignore or simply use say well you do it to me then twice as cheap as your oil well then i

can buy it from you but it remains a great power and there are many people there is a lot of money there is a lot of oil there a lot of gas it will all decrease but the political diplomatic diplomatic diplomatic political role of russia can be changed how do you do you think that if we reconsider the existence of such organizations in the world as the un and so on and the like, i think that it will be changed very significantly russia's role before its such weakening of the world in world diplomacy in world world discourses eh but already look we can already observe, for example, how much this soft power, which healed russia abroad in the world, has decreased. 30 years after the collapse of the soviet union, russia has been very active and invested a lot of money resources in the development of its soft

power in analytical institutions in analytical centers through its oligarchs through its culture and already this, but now we see that in essence this is what russian power is, it has been reduced to such a minority position compared to what it was before february 24. i think that's why you gave us, the program continues mykola balaban, deputy head of the center of strategic communication and information security, was with us. thank you for the fact that we discussed a joke . at the red cross, considering how beautiful it is, all this

information that we are now receiving and the reaction to what is happening, various things, well, i will not explain everything to the various organizations. and now let's talk about the economy. i have something to ask . if there is anyone to ask, do it a few times, but it will appear soon . i will tell you now and then i will ask, but now i will tell angelica simply because unreliable partners appeared, then civilized countries said that we will now deal with reliable partners not only in diplomacy, in the police, but in the economy, that is

no one wants to do business with russia, that's why today it is there and tomorrow it's gone, everyone is very careful about china, which today has something, and tomorrow it's more about the american one, which has benefited the most from globalization. everything works, and then it turned out that not everything works, and that is why civilized countries began to focus on people with common ideologies, common cultures , and common values. yes, they say, and the governments of such countries also say that if you move your factory from china to australia, we will help with money from china to south korea. we will help in japan, anywhere in europe, anywhere now, a huge amount. by the way, they used to sew both fashionable and less

fashionable clothes. well, which stores ? quite a long time ago, turkey, now it’s all latin america, the small countries of the caribbean basin, west india, the so-called otam, now and everyone who redirected their tailoring factories there, i don’t know there, h&m, they all make terrible money, it’s cheaper there, they have a complete work system, see for example, there is already cotton, yes , not cotton. tanya was there who exhaled, but the same one does, and now everyone does not want chinese cotton, they say that you are exploiting people there, somehow you are not killing these poor muslims, and everyone refuses. and where

will we go? to sew, and then in latin america, that is, this moment is very interesting. but it is true that we have a bush in place in oleksii. financial policy wanted to ask yes, mr. oleksii. good health. thank you for finding time to visit us on sunday. oleksii , a very simple and difficult question. i'm afraid not everyone ukrainians guess about it because i myself, despite the fact that i am a ukrainian, i only read about it for the first time this morning how did i go to the program to see you see if they are telling the truth and this affects ukrainians very directly and that the era of globalization is coming to an end and that the big players do not want to rely they are afraid of china and russia, they are not sure that they can finally rely on their

trading partners, for example, because of the fact that russia starts with ukraine and china is closed due to covid, accordingly, the number of sales in the world and then the americans, australians, europeans, japanese say let's trade among ourselves, not the global economy, but the economy among ourselves, because we can't, we signed a contract today, and tomorrow russia, uh, went to war against some neighboring country, and we have to close all markets, and we can't to hope for something good the day after tomorrow, a new contrast with china, and in china there is a complete lockdown due to covid-19, no one produces or sells anything, that is, all these connections, chains, and so on and the like are broken. is this a realistic picture of tomorrow well, this is not even a picture of tomorrow. it is, in

principle, a picture of today, because good old globalization is living out its age . the world economy will be divided into several global clusters, and within these clusters , certain rules of the global economic game, and the rules for building chain global added value, will be preserved accordingly. but they simply spread not to the entire world economy, but to their own global plastic of such plasters, now there are several uh, this is primarily the american economic cluster - this is the usa and uh, the british world, let's call it great britain, australia, canada, new zealand, and this european cluster and this is chinese and er-er several a-a asian countries that are basically

oriented towards the chinese economic class a, in addition, a number of well-known ones are being formed, so against clusters, that is, which have not yet become a so much powerful so that they can be called clusters of the global economy. well, for example, the indian protocluster of india. it should become one of the drivers of the world economy in the near future and replace in this regard, the role of china, the latin american economic cluster, which you mentioned, what else small levels of such a global role, let's say, but there, too. well, for example, the free trade zone of mercasur, which is being formed in south america, and around china, the so-called comprehensive regional economic partnership is being formed - that is, the countries of xiang and china are all in the center, that is, this is such a pasteurization of the world economy, for which ukraine must be ready. especially since we can focus on economic development

at once on two global passports, the european one and not the american one, that is, in principle, on my view of the survival of the ukrainian economy and our competitive advantage after the war will be that we can be a kind of link or such elements that can be connected to two global pastors european and american mr. oleksiy, it seems to me a very important question for me, maybe all the viewers are talking about me now, they say he is interested. so we are here, and i hope someone else is interested in watching and china will endure. because when you even list these clusters, it is one thing when europe plus the united states plus canada plus australia plus great britain now without europe, which is plus new zealand plus japan plus india plus ukraine i hope i

can push ukraine in there somewhere, and on the other side is russia, which is not even a quarter of the cluster there is something like a cluster that is limping very much and china, well, will they survive? china will be able to live for itself by itself, because when you and i are talking, i suspect that this means that china wants, can , or is capable of turning into the united states, that is, you produce a lot in the united states but a lot is consumed not only for selling somewhere abroad, but it produced and it ate, so it released a bunch of films and watched, created mcdonald's from the fir mcdonald's created boeing and flew to ukraine, russia and so on and so on then sold a china can afford this, in principle, it is only

on the way to becoming such a global band-aid, it has certain ingredients for everything, that is, you have a large population and capitalization of the economy, but there is still no main ingredient after what is the role of an economic pastor, it is impossible in the world, it is technological leadership, that is, now china, it is the key task that the economic party in china sets, they are at their congresses, and they are forming five-year plans, it is to turn into a leading technological into an innovative country in 2050, to become an innovative, innovative state, an innovative world leader, and in principle, the confrontation that we see now between china and the usa is actually pressing the confrontation from the point of view of technological production, why, for example, do chinese companies like huawei the united states of america is the most blocked if they, if

, for example, a company tries to implement its projects, for example, in countries that are allies of the united states, therefore, in principle, the question is whether will china be able to create a seven-centered asia, that is, an asia that is aimed at china, this is also a very big question because now we see several westernized countries in asia, these are south korea , japan, and we see that india does not want to be a sinocentric country, it wants to play its role and, in principle, when biden met with johnson, they said that we should build for the indians, or help the indians to build an alternative to the chinese. well, on the way, that is, in principle, we see that the european union is now planning to sign an agreement with india on a free zone trade, the americans will help with an alternative to the chinese shock route in the form of an indian e-e so peculiar that on

the way, and all this will be directed to the fact that the united states of america will retain its medical positions in the indo-pacific region, if we read it to those he to those christian strategies in the usa that was approved by biden last year, in principle, it is all clearly spelled out what you are going to those christian strategies, it is now key for america, more than a trillion new american investments are concentrated there in principle, the united states will be populated on the one on the one on that to preserve this medicine here and there on the confrontation that we are currently seeing between china and the united states will depend on the chinese megaplaster and its expansion in this matter because i understand how the world economy affects the ukrainian , but we eat it and we are interested in what is happening in our country, and mr. oleksiy, two questions at the end , very briefly .

in the amount of 10% for the purchase of foreign currency for the import of goods and services will lead to an increase in inflation by approximately 1% point and thus the inflation rate will remain at the level of 31% for the current year, tell me whether you agree with these calculations of the national bank and - the second question is the aid plan from the european commission in the amount of 9 billion euros, of which 1 billion provided will contain 5 billion in long-term loans and 3 billion in grants from the program. if you can please explain what this means and where we can spend it, because with the loan it is clear in my opinion that the introduction of this tax will lead to higher inflation. that is, 2-3% is at least for us for inflation and the test. the fact is that here we have the limit of the eastern countries where import consumption increased during the war because many of them were destroyed by enterprises. in ukraine, a part of the enterprise is occupied because of this. and we are more and

more switching to it, but the application of this tax will cause quite a lot of damage to our economy, because now our economy has to be rebuilt and it is difficult structural restructuring of the subliminal state of war well, for example, the same farmers have to buy equipment for processing raw materials that they cannot bring out now due to logistics problems, that is, for example, to buy equipment for the production of flour or bioethanol there to process grain and this introduction of this tax will actually increase the cost of these structural changes is 10%. because in addition to the value-added tax that will have to be paid when importing equipment and technology, it is 20%, and another 10% will be required for the purchase of foreign currency. that is, 30% will be capital investments with the participation of imported equipment or technologies, they actually become more expensive, and 30% for ukrainian enterprises, so i believe that it was possible to use the system