others now from reality uh, i would support any actions uh money and any actions of mine if they are physically present there this will already be a certain stabilizing factor because when some buryats and other devils are present there who say that there will be scorched earth here, it's much more dangerous , so in this case, if he is physically ready, if he is ready to send a monitoring mission, if it will be within the framework of even more of a un mission, let there be certain armed people who can take control of this critical object, so be it it will be in the interests of everyone, and in this case, if there, well, earlier we said whether they are active or proactive, whether these actions are blocked by ukraine or blocked by russia, then in the critical state to which we have brought the situation , rashist and the rashin federation are then i support any actions when there are more witnesses here, the main thing is that there will be witnesses of the situation who would have direct

contacts with world organizations and could report online, well, oleksia, one last question, you mentioned derkach, well, i will remember then about oleg boyaryntsev, his assistant for many years , who at the end of march was detained by the sbu, and at that time, from the spring of the 20th year, he worked as the executive director of personnel of the nuclear power plant and, according to the version of many investigative journalists, was engaged in the placement of his people, well that is, people who could be called to the russian special services for high positions in all, not only in energoatom, but in all ukrainian nuclear power plants , according to your information, some the work of checking those people of the staff who were appointed not only to zaporizhzhia, where they seemed to be greeted with the words "welcome to the russian as" but also at other rivne khmelnytskyi stations in southern ukraine, checking those

people who were appointed to lead this oleg boyaryntsev, please, i'll tell you yes, in the conditions of the war and in the conditions of what is happening now in the nuclear complex of ukraine. well, the fact that these people are still under the control of certain processes is absolutely incongruous; moreover, it can be interpreted as a betrayal of ukrainian interests, this is the first and second point a-a there was a situation when at one time we wanted pavlyshyn to be the general leader of the energy industry. he was the director of the rivne npp. and he had the appropriate admissions, license, license and other e-e factors to elect him, today he was fired and we have a situation, well, again, from the point of view of what i see, there are no arguments why such people are fired, but the official reason

dismissal, which was, well, again, some kind of inefficiency. and i have questions about efficiency in general. well, there are a lot of questions about efficiency, especially from the point of view of when the military operation began. there are questions on the internet, and these questions must be investigated as soon as possible and proven through the court, we conducted a country uh so that the people who are really punished are the people who really cooperate with the aggressor or engage in all kinds of illegal activities. thank you oleksiy oleksiy orzhev, the minister of energy and environmental protection of ukraine from 2019 to 2020, was on our air , there is already olena pariniuk, senior research associate of the institute of nuclear power plant safety problems, just the knowledge of ukraine,

congratulations olena. good day, let's continue the topic with mr. orzhyl, we have already talked about what is happening at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant power plant what is your assessment of the danger of the situation very high assessment of the danger of the situation is very high eh expert such a community we did eh my colleagues did eh modeling of what could happen on zaporizhzhia administration and it would not be an exaggeration to say that a lot will not be given up, not much will be given up to anyone , neither russia nor europe, especially in ukraine, what can happen is very, very dangerous. and what is the probability that something will happen there, given the situation, and it is impossible to calculate the probabilities because in order to calculate the probabilities of m-m you need to be able to predict the actions of the russians we cannot

predict the actions of the russians we cannot even understand them with some logic er-er therefore anything can happen and this is exactly what is very dangerous because if we could at least calculate the risks, we could think about what countermeasures can be prepared, and here it can actually happen, after all , they can just go zaporizhia, including they can plant some kind of bombs for reactors eh well, let's say they have already set up the only thing that they are blackmailing for the reactors, olena by minunovana p- it is stored there bc, there are mines, explosives there, as if they are blackmailing

the russian military, they say either russian or foreign land, and at the same time, well, somehow everyone is so calm, well, they took it, well, let them stand there, well, we are somewhere far away in europe or somewhere in asia or somewhere in africa or america, this does not concern us and there is no such wide publicity of this fact of blackmail of a nuclear terrorist act in general. why is it possible that somehow we need to talk about it more actively among experts, let’s say in my bubbles are the people with whom i communicate, the publicity is very wide.

unfortunately, i think that such methods and mechanisms will be developed because, for example, my colleagues from japan have already started a program to develop measures to counter nuclear terrorism, for example, but on the territory of japan, of course, that is, the reaction is the reaction of the world not as active as we would like, but i really believe that the reaction will be, let's say, proportional to the danger and inadequacy of olena's content , american fuel is used at gas stations, including the westing house company, do the russians have any

interest at all in somehow getting this fuel and doing something with it, getting some know-how unknown to the russians? and is it technically possible to do it? i would have said that uranium itself is about the fuel itself, because it is expensive in russia. well, let’s say not so much, and the opportunity to receive nuclear fuel from any nuclear power plant is such a rather important and interesting opportunity in general. in principle, the whole situation with e-e nuclear fuel that is now at actors with spent nuclear fuel is very strange and very interesting because it is very clear that they

are actually interested in our materials and in crimea this was the case, that is, when the representatives of energoatom, for example, back in the 14th year, they left crimea they took away the documentation with energoatom, and in fact it was on itself, hiding under the documentation somewhere , because even then the russians were very interested in, let's say, the documents that were in the sevastopol university, which included it, so you can say that the russians are also interested in early and in nuclear fuel, which is in sevastopol. there was some representation of energoatom, tell me, or i’m not even aware of it. in sevastopol, there was a university where the operators of our nuclear power plants actually trained and taught. after the annexation, this university was transferred

. partly in odesa partly in kpi but of course the technical base has been lost and they are trying to restore the technical base, including the department of nuclear power engineering in lviv, but they actually trained our operators the rest is sevastopol elena, technically it is possible to steal this fuel from the reactor, how does it happen? no, you can, but it is difficult and it is expensive, but let's say in nuclear energy, the question of expensiveness is such a very relative question because , uh, as soon as the fuel is loaded into the reactor, uh, it becomes radioactive i.e. after the spent fuel is much more radioactive than what was not yet working , this happens due to the formation of

decay products there, an increase in the number of radionuclides, etc. fuel, but like conductive elements, and it’s easy to drink. no, it’s not that simple, but the technology is there because, actually, there are special devices that overload fuel that has expired, replace it with new fuel, so you can actually unload that fuel, what else it didn’t work, but i have one more question. you said that you modeled the situation. god forbid an accident there. it’s an extraordinary situation. and please tell me the wind rose. at the end of summer, where is the wind blowing? university that and that is, we have models when

kuban, turkey , the territory of the black sea is actually very polluted, and i saw models when odessa, moldova, and further there are actually very polluted, poland, romania, and that is, it is very variable, well, you can’t say when and where it is dominated by people because even if you look at the pollution from chernobyl, it also changed every day , mrs. olena, what are the current prospects for the use of nuclear energy in europe? and we are waiting for a renaissance of nuclear energy because its first of all, it was recognized as safe, that is, it is environmentally safe. well, of course, if you do not have neighbors in russia, it is environmentally safe, and secondly, europe is facing an energy crisis

, not only europe, in fact, the whole world of nuclear energy offers safe, clean and inexpensive energy therefore, even taking into account all the risks, i think i hope that there will be a renaissance of nuclear energy even in germany, where they closed their nuclear power plants. inadequate situations, international ones, including uh, we tentatively jokingly call it goethe's troops, that's why i think that it will be somewhere like that, there is energy there , and the cost is not there. where? denisa popovych, the military observer, should be with us by now. we congratulate you and rostislav smirnov, the adviser to the minister of

internal affairs of ukraine, is also joining. good afternoon. we will see you now, gentlemen. good health. you can hear us like this. good day, and the day before, the intelligence of britain reported that putin had organized a real purge there among his generals, and for the failures. well, apparently, they failed in ukraine . adequate people who can find something there and lead some processes. well then, let's give it. then i was the first to answer it for a long time. well, you know, it's like in chinese philosophy, tactics without a strategy. that's all before the defeat. what's happening in ukraine now ?

this is precisely a tactic without a strategy, because russia has actually already lost the strategic one, and when you plan such actions, the actor does not go to another country. well, you have to actually start these strategies, that is, what are the goals, what is the goal, we are attacking another country on everything and this was an attack, well, you know, in er, in the hope that ukraine would suck and push with raised hands, and although at least there will not be er arguing and it will be calm, nothing is related, this did not happen , this could not happen. well, and now eh- e putin blames his own miscalculations for his own mistakes on the generals who, in his opinion, god is conducting a so-called special military operation and er are being defeated by the ukrainians on the battlefield, this is actually the reaction of the er supreme ruler, let's say

let's say this when his plans don't come true, well , let's remember hitler who was hanging out with his generals when he failed to attack moscow , this is the same situation that putin is now in, he lost strategically and now what is he looking for, he is looking for the culprits in his own miscalculations thank you rostislav smirnov, look, in fact, you can do a lot here speak, but we must understand that they themselves became a victim of their propaganda, which said that kyiv can really be taken in four days and only we will go in and all hands will be raised and so on and they partly believed it this is the first part of the second part let's remember that they had enough there is a large fifth column directly inside the country that told them that they are waiting for you here with flowers, work is being done. they have spent billions of dollars, and i think this will be key, including questions to all these politicians about pro-russian, which they financed and who only scattered very beautiful reports to them, and they really

believed it, and the second story. let's also speak frankly, even after the withdrawal, yes, after the retreat from the north of our country, after the regrouping of troops directly in the east of the enemy's country. there are not enough large e- he won by a few kilometers in some positions , but basically the front line is practically stable and we are even in the last week that it is stable is the key it is probably a story. why is he changing? because, again, he is, as you should know, you always have to cut your head, he is looking for these main ones, the previous experts said, he is also looking for them, he is looking for those responsible for this failure of theirs. well, those responsible for our failure are also being sought during the search means that they were detained, and i will not start from the beginning, as the deputy head of the gur is accused of working for russia. now we will show him in a photo. during the search, a man tried to shoot sbu representatives, sbu investigators

informed the former deputy of the suspicion the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine reports the press center of the sbu, the major general is suspected of high treason, as well as of encroachment on the life of a law enforcement officer and illegal possession of weapons, according to the investigation, he passed secret and top-secret information on the relevance of military news to the russian special services - of the political situation in ukraine, in addition, he forwarded to the occupiers closed data about measures carried out by the armed forces of ukraine and other units of the ukrainian defense forces, even for repulse or armed aggression editors, look. at the end of the information, there is a photo of this person, the only blurred face is rostislav, by the way, this is the sbu, i have a little question for you, but i remember when the premises of the president's office were picketed in the spring of last year, everyone looked at everyone with suspicion everyone was shown with names and faces and dates of birth, and here

the entire major general, who is a suspect in the state , was obscured why. who do you think is this general? do you know his name rostyslav, look no, i don't know, i'll say no, he doesn't have it information, i can say for sure that this was largely to be expected, because in fact it was the main complaint against the ex -general general of the head of the security service of ukraine, why he was fired, including the large number of traitors and spies among the top management, this is the first and the second thing, which we should understand, you actually know. for us, this is an opportunity, including such people, to go through the stage of self-purification, because we always had this fifth column, the country was always torn in two. parts and precisely this story helps us once and for all to put an end to these spies in power with all with all the traitors who are, including in the highest political leadership, and i think that this is

absolutely not all and that information when the driver. i think that it is only the beginning of the purge of all the spies who are among us there, both among the military leadership and uh, let's tentatively say safe there. that's why history feels like this. i think it will continue and we will hear about such detentions more than once. thank you and please yes as far as i have read, it is clear from the report of the sbu regarding this case that it refers to the deputy head of the state security service who worked in his position in the 1980s, so it is possible that this activity relates to this period, and it is necessary to remember that this is the eighth year the year when the russian-georgian war took place. by the way, today is the anniversary of this event, and it was then that the russians began to actively prepare for the invasion of ukraine, which actually took place in the 14th year with

the beginning of the seizure of crimea. an agent network that could help them to successfully carry out this invasion, i think that if these events touch in the 80s, then this may be the beginning of the creation of this age network, and we need this ball and go further for that to completely clean up the power structures and similar elements, this is under yushchenko, this person served in the army. they forgot that we had two ministers of defense, two ministers of defense are citizens of the russian federation. it 's just that you need to understand about including the number and influence of the agents of the russian federation, but i hope again that during this war we will draw all the conclusions and put an end to all traitors and spies in the government offices once and for all, but then it seems that anatoly hrytsenko was the minister of defense. if i am not mistaken now, this is what happened in 2009 year maybe i'm wrong, see about

and about one more character, i wanted to ask ukrainian politicians who, well, are active enough for us on ukrainian television and even in the presidential elections, took part there, appeared in variables of official information about the fact that the law enforcement officers are allegedly investigating criminal proceedings against the state head of the sbu in the third and fifth years, too. for uh, what is there for mr. kuchma and for mr. igor yushchenko, the general's laugh was heard on the air of tv channels, in particular, in the only telethon of the host 1+1 nataliya moseychuk stated that there is evidence that it was smeshko who was supposed to become the gauleiter of ukraine after the possible escape of zelensky after the russian invasion, which the russians expected in the first days of the war, which escape did not take place, therefore smeshko did not become well, this is what mr. smeshko looks like, i

am quoting. the case, and isn’t that what mr. zelenskyi talked about in november when he announced the mutiny, added the host, “well, yusu answered this question and said that he could neither confirm nor deny this information, mr. rostyslava, what do you think?” do you know about this, is it really a laughable criminal proceeding, advice please look well, let's be honest, i also can neither confirm nor deny this information, and now no one will confirm or deny it for you, this is a key story because if there really are such things, then of course they will be secret and when there will be a final decision, of course it will be made public when there are really reasons for this,

eh . you can say one thing, but the situation will be completely different , because so far there is no confirmation, no facts, no evidence, because you have what you said, we must understand that here we will say a coin from two sides from two sides, from one side, is it possible well, for sure , everything is possible from the other side we must understand that this can also be disinformation launched by the special service of the russian federation in order to sow a certain reversal among the political leadership inside the country and thus, you know, launch a certain mechanism, if you can say so again political races about which we have somewhat forgotten and this is correct, in fact it is possible, but i say that i am not yet ready to say, uh, if it is the russians who are launching a deza, then why does andriy yusuf say no, this is not true, there are no games. relations, i say that i can neither confirm nor deny this question. i'm just saying that it can be like one thing or another, what will happen. i think time will tell, denis. and what do you

think ? just to clean up your future political opponents, including ihor smeshko, for example , ihor smeshko. well, what kind of support is there for his 8%? he seems to have had the best time there, and now it is possible, in principle, with such semi-legal ones. we do not confirm, but we do not deny either. that's why everyone thinks so, and smeshko, well, he's a russian collaborator, and then he will spend half his life justifying himself. maybe he really is a collaborator. and maybe he's also an honest, decent person, but somehow, this story doesn't smell very good to my boyish mind, i'm asking for your word about the history of the state of laughter i know no more than that the mass media is now reporting on it, er, i heard yours, i heard another version about the fact that er, the russian army, er, was angry in its siege of viktor yanukovych and only the figures who were removed as part of the

government in the 14th year, and yanukovych had to, in the case of zelenskyi, return to kyiv, then transfer his authority to oleg, the tsarist attack, i heard the story, and as for the laugh, it’s something new , in fact. e checks and collaborators because we have them banned parties are political forces, but their representatives remain at local levels, well, in particular, we often mention the same derkach, then his political power. well, not under the ban, the people who represented him remain in local self- government bodies, for example, in the border sumy region, please tell me any please, how is this work going with us and how was it supposed to work? first of all, i can tell you specific facts, we have established more than a thousand criminal proceedings regarding collaborative activities, this is first, second, we have a large number of political

parties now, of course, i don't remember all of them, which have already been recognized by the court and are, say, liquidated, maybe the one you named, i don't know about it, but again, maybe it's just in the process, again, during military art during martial law, that is, there are absolutely no political races and so on. i think that they will also get their hands here clearly, and i think that there is a lot of information about what there were statements about mr. derkach, so i think that it is actually possible it's a matter of time, well, derkach is already more or less clear. and the party does not have a political process, but there are its people who, for example, in the military administration, where there may be secret information, are the heads of the departments right now, who should deal with it, yes , of course, there are special bodies for this, which should deal with it. ukraine is correct, yes, and transfer it directly. look, the national police also participates in some places in the collection of the evidentiary basis of the qualification of these criminal

proceedings, but it is usually transferred later by this service all these processes are really conducted by the security service of ukraine, with subsequent transfer to the person, well, again, i don't know, because it is possible to tell that two may not have been finalized, and maybe tomorrow there will be an application for this batch , so it is already at the final stage, so in fact, it is very difficult to say, but the key story is that the process has started, we have already seen the first round of those parties that banned it, the first thing we see is that there is already a certain purge, as on the one hand it is meant to open criminal proceedings in relation to collaborative activities and, on the other hand, in relation to, let's say, economic work. here, too , the national police chooses to take an active part in this, in this regard, the arrest of various economic entities and those owners who are citizens of the russian federation and support the putin regime, so again work is being carried out, but what specifically now, in which state, specifically according to the party for which you said, they are not ready to say that, and work is being carried out. but in principle, in the parliament, all

representatives of various political parties simply split up into two new groups and now actively support all the initiatives of the authorities, they are the biggest there now, well , i will support them. i would say all the initiatives of the president and his team and the biggest borscht for the better fate of ukraine, all those who were there yesterday, well, except for some who left and who simply cannot come like derkach or rabinovych or not well, we understand. if anything, these people will be the first to raise the tricolor here, and maybe someone is really waiting for this, sir. it’s strange, do you see that the work is being done or should it be done a little faster, maybe yes, well, we already have news. -is mr. rostyslava, the question is very relevant, please , if you have the opportunity, access to the minister of internal affairs, you are moving all this because, well, to head the departments of military administrations

, there was a communication from denis, please, very briefly . if you can hear us plusplus well, i can say that it is possible thanks to this work about which mr. rostyslav mentioned, he mentioned the specific number of criminal proceedings against the collaborators . i wanted to create something that could help the occupiers to consolidate their power there , and we see that in general there is a rather strong partisan movement and the local population actively opposes the occupiers . conducted by collaborators. thank you, gentlemen, denis popovych , a military observer was with us, and rostislav smirnov, an adviser to the minister of internal affairs, was also with us , and more