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but it seems to me that we need to become like israel, to accept their experience, their experience, to understand that rockets and air strikes will be there very often, and it seems to me that it will take a very long time, and that is why we will have to build some bunkers there for during air raids. anxiety to hide to her, that is, such a war will definitely be long, but an active phase. maybe it will end there by the end of the 23rd year . ah, denisa, when the war ends, will you be engaged in this? in the first year of law, i continue to study after that. well, i will look at the situation and live my own life. peaceful civilian life with a family and a girlfriend. we continue our films. the truth is that we do not see ourselves on the
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screens. please pay attention. we are from the storage room. now the map of air traffic is in front of us. almost all of ukraine, well, at least the central and western part, as well as the kharkiv region, air alert , please stay in shelters. we are continuing our broadcast, obviously, next time we will hear and see yuriy the traveler and valery dymov, now to another topic today, august 8, 12:14 p.m. i apologize, it is the anniversary of the russian invasion of georgia and the anniversary of the beginning of the russian-georgian war, as a result of which georgia unfortunately lost 20% of its territories that were occupied by the russians, now let's start this war, this is the second russian- georgian war, the date then was also the same landmark 08.08.08 yes well, let's remind you that the first war was in 1992, when the so-called russian volunteers took part in the abkhazian-georgian conflict. and already in 2008, the military operations had a much more massive nature.
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the presence was already open and not hidden, well , how did the five-day war begin and how did it end, let's look further into the plot, the five-day war under this name went down in history, the russian-georgian conflict that broke out 14 years ago in august 2008, after numerous russian provocations, georgia tried regain control over south ossetia, a part of its internationally recognized territory, in response, russia attacked georgians from land, sea and air. the fighting lasted less than a week, but took hundreds of lives as he managed to stop both military personnel and civilians thanks to the mediation of the then french president nicolas sarkozy, he convinced moscow to withdraw its troops, and within a few weeks the kremlin recognized the independence of the separatist regions of south ossetia and abkhazia, which grossly
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violated international law. the russian army marched over tbilisi to the georgian capital as a sign of solidarity together with the leaders of poland, lithuania, latvia and estonia , the president of ukraine viktor yushchenko flew in kyiv also provided to the georgians, weapons, tanks, warships, air defense equipment in ukraine, its military specialists, ukraine gave us an air defense system that was absolutely critical on the first day of the invasion, because they could not get critical advantages on the first day of the invasion. several ammunition packs of each system and thanks to these in the system, we shot down 12 russian bombers in the russian-ukrainian war, the current georgian government took the opposite position, it openly supports the aggressor and refuses to join western sanctions. i heard messages that we must
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protect our economy. what kind of economy? they have already taken part of the territory of georgia. they have almost reached tbilisi. what kind of economy? all this is not worth it. i think so. the five-day war had serious geopolitical consequences. instead of a harsh response to putin, the west then took him in. to make peace, and this, according to many observers, largely provoked the annexation of crimea, the war in donbas, and the current full-scale russian-ukrainian war of 14 years, initially the russian-georgian second war and if it had ended differently, perhaps there would not have been a russian-ukrainian war, let's add to the conversation mamuku mamul lashvili, the founders, the commander of the georgian national legion, we also congratulate the georgian political scientist with us good day good day
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glory to ukraine certain technical problems friends, is it possible to draw parallels between that war and this one i think the russians had the same plans to end this war in five days at the most, but only thanks to the armed opera of ukrainians. all plans failed. is it possible to draw parallels? your opinion mom, please, you know. i think there was a war in 2018, which was actually ignored by the entire modern society. there were only a few countries that came to georgia, including ukraine, and er, they became together with georgia and in the confrontation er, confrontation with russia, er. this there was a war, almost a breakdown of the war of the modern war, where
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russia tried to reach out. what consequences would the aggression on the territory of the former soviet union entail , in principle? последствие как раз с войны года 2008 года в горузии дело and if we go back to that war, we heard in this story the position of the president of the then president of georgia, mr. mikheil saakashvili. where he pointed to the aid of ukraine directly, well , in particular, there he talked about tanks, some armored vehicles and, most importantly, systems air defense with which the georgians were able to shoot down 12 russian bombers. why now? well, about gratitude. i don’t know if i should talk about it, because gratitude and politics are different things. they are incompatible. but why is georgia not consistent ?
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now in its policy regarding, well, the same sanctions that were discussed in the story. i like to recall this story about the american ministry of finance, which identified 17 countries that conduct, that actually violate sanctions against russia, conduct so-called, well, gray trade with the occupying country and, unfortunately, to the list of these countries and georgia, which, in principle, 14 years ago directly felt what the russian occupation is, why am i asking now, er, i can because there was er, there was no sound when he er, first of all, i will say that the war between russia and cargo began to say what isn't on august 8, the war between russia began on august 4, 1783, when the russian state decided to destroy georgia, and after that the war continued, and at some point it was
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successful. you know, in 2008 , if georgia had not received at least a small part, an insignificant part, of the support that was provided to ukraine, but even after that, if at least someone condemned russia is more than what was brought in that there would be no crimea, there would be no eh segodashnee vremya in ukraine . the conformist judge and the main thing is the criteria let's say that it is so successful that it is worth for which it is not irritating time does not irritate moscow well, this is the place according to churchill, you chose the place with all
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happiness and war, you will receive it without honesty and war therefore now there is nothing surprising in what is happening for me, there is absolutely nothing, if for 10 years our government has done everything not to irritate directly and why is he why she suddenly changed her position today, of course, it has not changed, so i think that unfortunately unfortunately, that's what it is happening, he did not sleep, he predicts that there was another case, which gives me confidence that the georgian society is categorically against such a position and unequivocally supports ukraine, and he supports it in all directions, and the example of moms who are there in 2014, this is exactly the same as the park in
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sodom . did after their war and how do they see what is happening in ukraine now? i think that in relation to russia, attitudes and attitudes are quite radical in georgia. well, what would i say about the government of georgia, which 100% does not allow the population to resist? he population resists the tourist occupation of georgia and uh, i think the situation in georgia will soon change because uh, i think the patience that the citizens of georgia had during the management of this property, friends, i am already out of the queue and political change i think i will
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and how exactly do you predict how the political situation will change? i think the georgian people will be able to win in the next elections , and this is the russian finance that is pouring into georgia today, and it is not the first time that they are trying to fatify the elections in his address, the ukrainian president called for the liberation of the occupied territories of e.e. georgia e.e. gala, how important it is, how possible, in one case, and it is not by chance that every post and every person has their own program. yes, on their youtube channel, the caucasus news channel ended with the words "we believe" armed forces of ukraine and glory to ukraine because it is possible only then if you are caught, it is interesting
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to russia. a truce, any ceasefire, any other option - this is only a pause, this pause can last for a long time, this pause can last again for 10 years, it was already 25 days, it is necessary, it does not matter, it is still a pause, and it is still more important to have such an education as the russian federation by the imperial glabs, no liberation of the territory of georgia and through ukraine, and in general, there is no such thing as being captured until these times , moreover, i will say more to some.
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words but this word reflects well the situation of things, it is an immediate threat to europe, if someone thinks that georgia was faster, write georgia was not after the second, put all the former republics of the union into bagettes , they are for us strategists. by the way, the package contained a as for who was the fastest next, it would be more and let's not forget that on the projectiles that the russians fired at kiev it was probably written slowly because of the great blood and the great tragedy comes the raising of the suburbs российской федерации, until this nature is changed, nothing will happen, but it is the armed forces of ukraine that can change the nature of this, and only veseloi segodnya , that's a fact. mamuk. have you personally read this description
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of the russian president, who then in 2008 was the president later, for example, then they changed dmitry medvedev vkontakte, which he first hung up, then deleted, then the press secretary said that the page about the restoration of the soviet union was hacked, he said that he wrote in this description that the order of sovereignty will no longer exist and then he began there, on specific countries, to go through northern kazakhstan that iskon in russian and in georgia that georgia became ukraine actually gained its current momentum only during the times of the soviet union, so well, therefore, it should be returned to the soviet union, what is your attitude towards such things? is this official policy russians, why then? they first publish, then take away, then refute, i ask, you know. i wouldn’t call it nonsense and not education.
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russia is ruling today, and they understand perfectly well what they are talking about . they say, oh, in principle, based on the police that are conducted in russia today. they will resist what is happening in russia, and how are things, he said, the only way is a man with a weapon . i will say that yes, mr. gelo, you will respond, please eh, have you read this, this is the work of dmitry medvedev, who personally drew conclusions for himself, in fact, the
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bear did not say anything new in this. and what did the bear say that was different from putin's differences before the beginning of the large-scale invasion, this is nothing, simply, here was political aspects why was this done here ? the answer was, i met in sochi with sardagan, where i told the president of turkey directly that , look at kazakhstan and georgia, we will not and will not allow you to create under any circumstances. the middle route and dropping the route of russia into europe is a direct threat to georgia, it is absolutely to kazakhstan, by the way, it is also completely understandable that the russian federation is in such a forest and if it has enough resources to implement similar plans, but there is another side of the
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coin, which for me, with uh, it also exists for how long there was a resource in ours for resistance . that is, i always sleep with my friends in the military. how much are we ready to determine if there is no topoliticheskaya bolje prividnost otvet vezda pojitelnych, but i don't know, to be honest, it worries me a lot, what do you think my potential for resistance is, because the ministry of foreign affairs of georgia today, er, er, published a text stating that they call for the implementation of the cease-fire agreement of 12 august of the eighth year and withdraw the armed forces from the territories of georgia occupied by russia, this is just to write something or the real position of a-a i think that in georgia today uh-uh and-y the citizens of georgia
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have a huge motivation for the happiness of georgia the government has no motivation and they will not resist. the russians are five today in georgia and the political power has fallen. it cannot simply surrender to georgia and everything will fall on the shoulders of volunteers . er, practically the georgian people took a hit on themselves so the situation is quite complicated and er, well, let's talk about the tourist occupation, the ruling party georgian dream accused the opponents of allegedly inciting a xenophobic chauvinist company against the citizens of russia, the news of georgia reported everything, the statements of the leader of the party irakli ko bakhit found
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a reaction to the growing concern about how many russian citizens came to georgia after february 24, that is, the beginning of russia's war against ukraine, part of the opposition figures believe that the situation is getting out of control and it's time to think about visa to the regime with russia there is a moratorium on the purchase of real estate by citizens of russia for several days the party of war and traitors is trying to launch a second wave of xenophobic campaign, said kobakhiza for his in the words of opponents, including the so-called unified national movement of saakashvili and his allies, some mass media and many of the richest public associations baselessly convince people that an unprecedented number of russians came and this is a serious risk for the country's sovereignty and independence. however, this is an exaggeration according to komakhidze, please, sir hello, your reaction is there really a threat of tourism and occupation, please thank you for the link to the news agency news of georgia this is our family agency, so thank you
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you are reading the verified sites. as for the problems of the russians in georgia, you understand what is the matter here. it is very simple that the problem is not a few in the russians of georgia. the problem is the efficiency of our state and the ability of its motherland . if you do not have such a level of special services and such a level , then - is the political will in order to resist the hybrid threats that your country is facing, such a large number of citizens of the other side that occupied your territory, it is necessary to accept some kind of peace, obviously which are restrictive and this moment is the problem, i say once again the problem is that uh, i am not sure of the effectiveness, to put it mildly, they did not cover the work of our whistles, the effectiveness of our force works, uh, in order to protect georgia, this
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is actually the biggest problem well , there is another problem along with many people who are really sincere against putin's regime, people who came here just to get out of the way, and there is a third category, and it probably exists, it's people which are simply infigrovany as uh, well, the agents influence, and how are the direct employees of the special services and the people of the secret service through the special services, this all teaches the country a very serious lesson. that this is a very large supply of tension, so i say once again that the main problem with us is that the problem is that over the past 10 years, the state institutions of georgia have been weakened to such an extent that today they may not experience a very serious concern for our country, what is the total number of
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russian citizens in question after february 24, who entered the territory of georgia from russia, that is, how large-scale this phenomenon is, and even before february 24, there were about 100,000 e-e in georgia, mostly working remotely there there were different categories, then according to estimates, and so different services entered another 200,000. now they say that there are 2009,000 isters left. well, it’s still a colossal amount , so that you could represent georgia. it’s the same as if it were ukraine 2 million would have entered. and what do you think? well, i understand that from 200 to 300,000 russian citizens
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are now on the territory of georgia, how much of a threat is this to the sovereignty and sovereignty of georgia? this is a program that the georgian government cooperates with the russian special services. so it says that these 200,000 tourists who came to georgia via the internet. i think it will be personal, and most of them are. the provocateurs who are already in the markets and in the hotels are asking to speak with them in russian and they are talking about the strangulation of the tongue and one day this may turn into a rather serious provocation that we will be able to use in russia and for another tazkeniya in general, russian tourism will be very dangerous for georgia, only because the barbarians together with their children and
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women would destroy the monuments of barbarism in georgia and they are unpleasant it is not so easy to crowd people there don't understand when they come to georgia every time to be met with posters by the russian occupiers, because it's home for them. even in their own language, it's incomprehensible, well, the problem is that the georgian government cooperates very closely with the russian political administration and eh грузинское работые сегодня helps to occupy грузию thank you, gentlemen , mamukam, mamuashvili, the founder and commander of the georgian national legion, and gelevasadze, a georgian political scientist, were our guests, we talked about georgia, the 14th anniversary of the beginning during the second russo-georgian war, i visited almost all of ukraine except for the luhansk region
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, so let's return to our main studio . literally in a few minutes, news and then analytics, wait for the channel espressuy. why did you decide to come here, if that's the best way to explain, i watched all the events in february and march and that's it. this, to put it mildly, angered me, i had a feeling that everything would just get out of hand, i thought a lot and decided that i am 20 years old and have military experience that can be useful to this country to some extent on the battlefield, i understood that i was ready to do everything in my power. it would be better if i were wounded or killed, but the life of one of the ukrainians would be saved, so it is
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better for me that every ukrainian i met was a wonderful person, and i am even more convinced that it is better for me than someone else really doesn't want ukraine to feel alone in this war, that's why i came here to support ukrainians and to make them feel that they are not alone in this fight against russia. i know that your grandparents are from ukraine, it's true they are from odesa, what did they tell you when my parents heard about your decision, they support me, but of course they are very worried because this is war. i want to thank my parents who are proud of my decision. they support me as much as they can. parents always worry about their children, and i get the support i need from my parents. tell us your story. when did you arrive here? how long did it take you for military training? i became part of a unit that
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i cannot name. later i was in the south-eastern region, in particular in donbas, in the unit to which i joined there was no proper order, it consisted exclusively of foreigners, mainly from western countries, who , unfortunately, did not have ideals for which they would fight to defend ukraine, in the end, i decided to leave there and joined the international legion. after a few weeks of training in the legion, i was sent to the front, the equipment was quite normal the truth is that something unusual came across, but in general, technology as technology. this is so short about my story, as for me it is not like that, it is already interesting. i have been in the maces of the legion since april. i tried to make every effort. which i can of course not name the specific places where i have been but i will say that i did everything that depended on me this is my story and were there any stories on the battlefield that you remembered for the rest of your life of course they were remembered for the rest of your life my first
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the meeting with the russian sniper was all calm, i did my usual duties, i didn't do anything at all, i did n't think that something like this could happen. suddenly i hear a whistle near my ear. the bullet even damaged my ears a little because it was very close. i heard that whistle until the end of the day. i will never forget it. was very hands were shaking terribly for a while. then for about 2-3 hours we just lay on the ground to make sure that we were no longer a target for them. such an experience will remain with me forever because i had never encountered anything like this before. this shot was so sudden and unexpected that it caught me off guard. out of the blue , i was completely unprepared. it was, to put it mildly, a very scary and unforgettable experience. i have other similar stories, but this one stands out so specifically from the others. what do you think we should do to win this war as quickly as possible?
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i see two ways to victory in this war. the first is when russia simply cannot stand it and there is every chance that it will happen, they were not ready for such a war and both countries - it takes a little more time for the russians to understand that war entails what are the cardinal consequences for them to take the situation into their own hands and do everything possible to stop it? we must wait to hold the defense and destroy the russians, where only this is possible, a truce is definitely not an option here, so i think it is worth waiting for one of the options i proposed. with russia, won't it be a mistake for us, a truce with russia will definitely be a mistake, it will only give the enemy
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the opportunity to increase its military potential, who, who, and russia is definitely not to be trusted, you cannot trust putin and the entire top of the kremlin in case ukraine will make some concessions in favor of russia, it will only give it time to recover and come back again, it is sad to say this, but unfortunately such peace is not needed in ukraine, what can you say about the russian methods of waging war in ukraine, they have exhausted themselves , they rely solely on their artillery on tanks and air forces, before launching the infantry , they do intensive bombing. i had the experience of introducing fire from small arms as well as from many other types of weapons. military aircraft therefore, all i can say about the russian method of fighting is massive shelling of the contact line with artillery and heavy weapons after

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