i don't know, i'll be honest, because on the one hand, we are under a lot of pressure, er, moscow, er, on jerusalem, we have elections on our noses, our government is now some kind of temporary transitional government, and on the other hand, i was asked a lot, for example, once when will they put an iron dome there? and we have a war right here, and this iron dome was plowed there for 3 days. it doesn’t turn off at all. i don’t know. we have a very, very complicated security situation . at the moment, it is a monster. we are complicated. we are here on park barrel, next to which there are several castrates burning, we are simultaneously running three military companies now , not counting operation dawn, we are running a company against iran in syria, and our air force is working there, we are running a company against iran in on our own and earlier with the forces of our intelligence, and we , er, conduct this counter-terrorist operation

in the breakwater, on the west coast, and here we also have such a weekend war, er, so i honestly don't know, i don't have an answer, well, it's clear, and well i will then finally ask about yours opinion, is there still political support for ukraine as a whole in israel, does it exist, is it stable, or is there a possibility that, for example, as a result of some re-elections, there will be some kind of conditionally, not that pro-russian, but let's say that the party of even greater peacemaking, well , if the former prime minister nitonyaku wins the election, yes, he will become the next prime minister. who is this, of course, a problem? well, since he is here, he is positioning the opposition, and putin's friend is there, and that's what he has been building here for 10 years. relations

it means with moscow, and ego, er, the changelings, that’s who would replace him in the chair of the prime minister, they would then interview him, the disco, it’s none of your business there, and they destroyed it, that’s why i have such a thing. here’s the fear that if he becomes an example, problems will begin over this everything depends on who will become, well, instead of him, it means that if someone else wins, then who will it be, for example, the current example is lopyt, he is one of those who spoke very harshly about the russian invasion of ukraine and expressed his support in kyiv just like that it is absolutely clear, and among the citizens, how many are there who are ready to support ukraine, well, most of the israelis, i would say yes, a decent part, one of the questions was held among the russian-speaking community there, yes, there is a significant gap, more of those

who why those who are against or those who are among hebrew-speaking people i have not seen similar polls, but i just, well, i have a lot of familiar friends there , even hebrew-speaking ones, uh, well, if one of them is such, the absolute majority of them express their support in such a way, uh, there are such they went there as volunteers and helped and even fought , that is, with their bodies, yes, the attitude in the israeli society is very similar to the ukrainian one. i would say that the problem is only that this is all the matter, because it is delayed very much. here is this operation in general. well, from the side of jewish physical israelis, the interest in this matter is fading a little.

the source that i regularly look at and read there was that it was visible that it was allowed in march in april, even in may, there were 10 news, that's all, it was ukraine now. she just went down the tape and appears there. well, not always. even that 's possible there . i don't know what's going on there. i'll finally ask how much israel is constantly, well, constantly actually in a state of siege, semi-martial at times and in a state of war . to what extent can israel remain a democratic country in all this, because i read that literally yesterday i met with netanyahu, who is the leader of the opposition, to discuss security issues with him, because it turns out that there is even such a norm what he must discuss

security issues with the leader of the parliamentary opposition, i thought that we recently had an incident when the leader of the parliamentary opposition in ukraine was not allowed even to receive an official invitation to the nato summit just so that i don't know what to do with him a nuisance or that he does not convey his position from a higher platform and er for partners in europe in the west, this is how israel manages to maintain this democracy. this is actually important for a country like israel, if possible briefly er, yes, first of all , the position of the leader - it's official gosudarstvennaya dulina yes, that is, uh, it's directly govt. detila official well, there is a conditionally ministerial meeting, that's how, secondly, uh, the preservation of democracy here has always been considered the most important achievements and the most important things, yes for so that the country could function successfully because, for example, we have been under martial law for 74 years, but it does not affect it

in any way. three political agendas . preserve a better development of democracy because it is not a problem to reach a dictatorship. thank you very much for this conversation, serhiy auslanders, an israeli journalist, joined us. thank you, and mirny is not in israel either, it’s always good. i think it’s a wish, a peaceful sky, exactly in the czech republic, in a language camp, a summer language camp, a hungarian ford, and there, just now, a lesson is going on. inna conducts a czech camp, but inna conducts it with a polish surname or mrs. inna. if i'm wrong, please correct me, and i congratulate you. this is the camp and the children you teach czech. these are

ukrainians. i understand correctly. of course, they are ukrainians . that is what they call adaptive courses about cesins. that is , these are adaptive courses, well, adaptation of our children to the conditions of living here. the main thing is to learn the local language in order to continue studying. well, in general, we hope that living here is temporary. so these are ukrainian children aged from six to 16 years old a-a now i have an older group, we divided them . in general, in my city it is mistoherske, brother, there are only 16,000 inhabitants in general, this is a small town, it is like a village in ukraine a-a there are still children from this city and there are from of the closest words and you in you lessons are held in ukrainian or russian

, russian is forbidden in our country, but this means that maybe some children, i don’t know how, but there are certainly some who at least have to translate in their heads from russian to ukrainian and from ukrainian to czech as how are the successes of such children in i have no luck. i have russian-speaking children, but they all understand ukrainian. well, with the older ones, we are already trying to do the czech language, and they have already gone to school. some of them have already attended school . for example, there are 40 of us, and today a new girl came, 47 children in total, ah, for these courses, they are registered, but it is difficult to make a section because you have to make an age section, and then i also compare it with because the child may be 16 years old, but she just arrived, and even the alphabet i don't know who

you understand, so here if there is such a problem, but everyone is trying, all the good guys are writing, doing the task , that's it, we've been going for five weeks in total. this course is an elite language camp, let's say two hours, we learn the language in the classroom, now we study, then here i still i have a class there honor collector we change she mainly teaches grammar i would we i read more with the children i learn words i repeat i explain some mental peculiarities i give them more information about where we live they knew something in general about the country uh in which they they live to be respected for this because the locals are very kind to us we live on it is called khydnimarno this is east moravia the region where we live with uh and here people are very kind very friendly they help a lot but when a person knows

the language they respect him and help him even more more therefore that there are many of our wage earners who worked and lived here before the war, but they lived in such disorganized groups, they communicated only among themselves and they do not know the language, they cannot speak normally even if they have lived for 10 years, well, that is, language is such an opportunity to adapt and be accepted, of course yes my my. by the way, my ex bitten me. he has been living in the czech republic for several years. he works with a chef-coupe in front of his own. he had his own business here, but because of taxes and all kinds of problems, he decided to spit on everything and moved to the czech republic, where he is still a chef. so he says that the czechs were terribly surprised that he literally in a couple of months, well, in a few months, he learned czech and i speak only czech, and his friends are mostly czechs, and they seem very unusual for ukrainians or not with such that ukrainians come here all the time who are working there

to make money faster, to move home and to add another third floor, i will roll for something. well, i am the same. i was lucky with what i knew. i had czech friends whom i knew before the war, and they invited me. i myself was impatient and i was there for a week right under the shelling, then they immediately wrote that you should go here, just that i could not leave from there, but when i got here, the fact that i knew the people here and the fact that i know how to speak helped me a lot. well, i am also learning general things like myself how to behave so that you are respected so that you don't embarrass yourself, your parents, your country , where did you come from, and these are such important things, well,

in principle, all the conditions have been created for us, and now we have education. and then, uh, we'll go outside, i can show the place if you are interested in such a small one, let's go short, congratulations, guys, girls, i can turn it around for you like this, the town is beautiful, only small, ke oh, we go to play football and basketball well, please tell me how physical activities, that is, museums and so on, we visit, i try for small children , organized lunches are free for the younger group, because i have class starts at 8:30 a.m. until 5 p.m. i'm sorry, children, how did you get invited? you can be seen

. by the way, if you think it's actually visible to you, it can be seen. inno . please tell me. well, congratulations to you these countries, although we haven't been there for a long time. please tell me now it's summer, and in the summer it's easier to perceive when you're somewhere far away from home for a long time. summer can somehow trick the brain into saying vacation, vacation. yes, but autumn will begin, studies will begin, and i understand that it's already there won't be any such summer school, where will these children go, how will they study, will they be together with everyone, will it be some kind of separate, separate classes, look, i ah, i work at a school in one of the schools, how i worked as a teacher's assistant, i helped exactly with such adaptation of the children, they had lessons in the classroom, and we were allocated a separate room in the classroom where

we began to learn czech, i also taught ukrainian there. by the way, i was improving my perception skills, there were children, you know, someone from a family of wage earners who lived there somewhere in a village in the mountains with my grandmother and did not go to school normally and did not know numbers at all well , that is, it was not necessary to start studying with him, and i taught someone to eat with a fork and they were like that. i had a contract for these courses until the end of the school year, until the end of june, then i was invited to these courses from september 1. the school already told me that they would invite me again, but for half-time, because it seems that the children have already adapted, but i already have three

new applications and two new ones students who arrived recently and they are not yet adapted. they are just starting their studies. how will it be next? the director himself does not know, they say. well, we will see. we think that everyone should already be in the class and everyone should already go with their classes, not separately, not to study. can not they constantly create separate conditions for us, of course, we have a lot, but i think that the czechs themselves were not ready for the fact that the war was delayed for so long, they invented the training process and the schedule themselves . i wanted the children not to forget their native language. they sent it to me. i am very grateful to my friends who sent it to me and did what we ourselves

thought was necessary . them standards there was no such thing, you are doing a lot of work. inno, you are doing a great and wonderful job, not only teaching about the czech republic in the czech language, but also teaching to love ukraine even when you are far from it. thank you for this . let them study well. glory to the heroes glory to the heroes . thank you. thank you for this ray of light. we want you to be well . the international bloc and after such a small uplift, even though the uplift is such in the conditions of war, the

children who ended up abroad not of their own free will, but because they were escaping from bombs, now again about the war, but not ours, but about the russian-georgian war on this very day 14- those anniversaries and they say that the war 14 years ago in georgia was a rehearsal for a large-scale war with ukraine, they think so, let's see how it was, the five-day war under that name went down in history, the russian-georgian conflict that broke out 14 years ago, in august 2008, after numerous russian provocations, georgia tried to regain control over south ossetia, a part of its internationally recognized territory, in response, russia attacked georgians from land, sea and air. the fighting lasted less than a week, but it took hundreds of lives, both

military personnel and civilians, but it was stopped thanks to the mediation of the then french president nicolas sarkozy, he convinced moscow to withdraw its troops, and within a few weeks the kremlin recognized the independence of the separatist regions of south ossetia and abkhazia, rather rudely violated international law, were not the biggest allies of the georgians then in 2008 were the ukrainians when the russian army marched over tbilisi to the georgian capital as a sign of solidarity together with the leaders of poland, lithuania, latvia and estonia , the president of ukraine viktor yushchenko flew in kyiv also provided the georgians with weapons, tanks, warships and air defense equipment in ukraine of its military specialists ukraine gave us air defense that was absolutely critical первые дни торжения because they could not get critical advantages первые дни ukraine gave a system letters and wasps and eh she gave several ammunition to

each system and thanks to these systems we shot down 12 russian bombers in the russian-ukrainian war the current georgian government took the opposite position it openly supports the aggressor and refuses to join the western sanctions i heard messages that we must protect their economy, what kind of economy, they have already taken part of the territory of georgia, almost reached tbilisi, what kind of economy, all this is not worth it, i think so, the five-day war had serious geopolitical consequences instead of a harsh response to putin, the west then took it upon himself to make peace and, according to many observers, it was this that largely provoked the annexation of crimea, the war in donbas, and the current full-scale russian-ukrainian war, how do you remember your emotions when the

russian-georgian war began, mmm, and in principle i definitely remember these emotions. yulia volodymyrivna tymoshenko made such a impression on me with her inappropriate comments and the fact that she could not express herself clearly in support. then viktor yushchenko showed himself very well, who he is normal, absolutely himself, he is the first, he is one of the first presidents who, and ukraine began to transfer weapons to georgia at that time, she transferred some weapons there , i don't remember the amount, but it was very important in those five days of ukraine, it was difficult to transfer some weapons even to georgia, as far as i remember it was an initiative under yushchenko, it wasn't the president who said what about him and the georgians or there like and tomorrow there will be kebabs or there and also who is interested in such a difference and so on. then we went, it is still unknown what happened, they went to the mountains in

tbilisi, he valensi, who was the third, i don't remember anymore, well, that is, they immediately left for three presidents, because they reproduce, it is important, it seems that the valence flew with them, so i will already check well that is, did i remember or do i remember? of course they remember very well, and volodymyr kopchak, the head of the south caucasian branch of the army research center for armament conversion, listens to us and i already know all the answers for sure that i forgot , volodymyr, do you remember that first day and that your uh, when we found out that russia had attacked georgia. yes, of course, i remember that uh, a georgian was present in my company. unfortunately, from the kingdom of heaven to him, and when he said that ukraine was next , there were people in our company then, well, what did they want to call an ambulance for him, or did they think that he was already a little incubus, but with the understanding of the letter, it is to

the point that, uh, it is not only the west, only abroad, but in ukraine, in particular, to such things that ukraine provided here, let's remember that period, well, we will show you how we behaved skeptically or on top of the superficial well, that's even was observed during the maidan of the 13th year there in november or december. i personally witnessed that even the majority, well, not the majority of the people on the maidan, when they were preparing to fight with russia in a frontal format, the answer was yes. i don't have anything to add on the podium together with everything, if i remember correctly, it's smolenskyi who died after the smolensky disaster. it's absolutely kachensky. yes, kaczynski completely agreed with you about yushchenko. and after that, we got heated and wrote an article there again to

yushchenko as a president can be treated differently. he reacted, he must, well, quite decently. well, regarding the first time and the first president , again, i was with you again, because now in georgia we want such climate-political and other three times in the format or even who did he have to help? we remember the year 1993, and you can imagine how risky he was when he sent dozens of helicopters to the mountains of yaki and spas, hundreds of people. if we take abkhazia about three hundred thousand refugees, this is precisely the period of the 90s ago. i am concluding the introductory part of my investigation with what i categorically disagree with - not with the given 0.808, well, not with the date 0.708, which of course august 7 is more adequate - it is the date when the

russians invaded the territory through the 40 panel georgia consider that officially 08.08 yes, this is the water sign and the e-e sign of memory, the date of memory elena is indirectly playing into the hands of the aggressor she is indirectly playing to certain political circles not only in georgia regarding the fact that georgia itself is to blame it was possible to hold back there famous let's say yes i i also think around the figure of saakashvili, he is close to ukrainians, but not only to georgians. and this gives, let's say, a certain basis for various circulation of manipulations and the moisture of this useful idealism, and in the logic of the direct russian agency in georgia, not only if we take this period of the five-day the war, the hostilities lasted at least since july 26, both sides were killed. this story is quite well-known in shiroki, not only in the expert circle. therefore, now all these questions. let's say yes, they are, in my opinion

, how much. well, was akashvili or georgia to blame? now, if someone asks such a question, we raise it after february 24 and the ukrainian-russian war, well, i just don’t have the words . i wonder if the ukrainians back then in 2008 would have believed those people who said that these were petitions and that the war of russia against ukraine was inevitable, and would there have been a war in 2014 or would there have been a war on february 24 or even if it had happened maybe they were in a different format your last instructions are very correct. i don’t like analysts after, but i like the war, but

ukraine was more ready, but it was released not only in 2008. here you can discuss our entire recent history, ten years plus, and discuss these issues. we only had all the stages. let’s say that after in the 14th year, the main thing is predetermined or done incorrectly is that now ukraine is raking, so i agree. let 's talk about the present, about georgia in the context of the ukrainian war, because well, we will just lose time on the air, it was possible not to elect yanukovych let's start with the fact that it was possible to react in a different way to the kharkiv agreements, it was possible to react in a different way to factions, but you mentioned in 2008 that you once reacted with 150 plus people in the pro-government faction.

to list, but now, to put it mildly , it won't help us in any way in this regard, well, now for the world, we also showed the then president nicolas sarkozy, who played his role in such a settlement as that conflict but let it be so or because of the world made conclusions now or i have the feeling that, for example, in france now she stands in completely different positions regarding the war in ukraine, there is a goat litter and we are watching a decent let's say this follower in the person of macron, there are also such macron chiteinmeier well, you see, in order to have an epiphany , the event at la buch and further down the list were needed. unfortunately, this epiphany is precisely because of the horror that is happening now in ukraine, it really comes, that

is, the position of france is transformed now it is more likely that such terms as macronews or something else are applied to the regent, not sarcasm. forgive me, macron was re-elected because each country is a distance, it must be perceived. it lives in its own internal political logic, but most importantly in its own logic with you. one of the basic arms suppliers has now found out about the sanctions, macron has stopped calling putin once or twice a day. well, somehow, but at that time somewhere, uh, the really democratic western community did not appreciate uh, how little uh, the level of threats facing not only ukraine, not only the post-soviet space. and now that we see all humanity, the georgians themselves, of course, to some extent played along with this date 0.808 there was a certain resolution of taliani, on which the russian aggressor is now speculating side well, they

just don't read it completely, first of all, but there really is a wording there, not verbatim, that the georgians started there, on august 8, some kind of shelling, well, this is not true , but it is recorded as a follow-up. well, you can rewind a little earlier, if i'm not mistaken, correct it or the audience will correct it, the bucharest ones themselves, for example, in 2008, again, returning to the question that ukraine could do, do you remember yatsenyuk tymoshenko yushchenko , they applied for tadechek in the eighth year, do you remember balls balloons yes not so and when there, starting with the communists, i don’t know the regional ones, they end there, freak, my nataha, the windmill, well, they managed to disrupt, let’s say, the campaign of ukraine for the five-year-old. you could press on, but the main thing is personally now

everyone recognized it, merkel of bucharest put a barrier on the path of donations to ukraine and georgia at that time, and it was untied by the hands of uh, in 2008, officially medvedeva, but read it because everyone now sees that dimon was full-blooded. to whom they once tell him what? thank you very much. volodymyr kopchak , head of the south caucasian federation-center for the study of the army, conversion and disarmament , mentioned an important date, er, the beginning of the actual invasion of russia in 2008, and as we now understand, the bolts are a prelude to the present. they said they warned about the invasion, now medvedev is saying about it, let's go straight to the text, what we warned then was not enough, we repeated it, we repeated it in ukraine , now they are trying to repeat it, well, they are not doing so well , and well, but we are at this point at the moment