ruslan was told to connect vasyl to us, and by the way , this is the story, if mr. ilya, if you knew it, let's continue this purchase of non-cash dollars at an undervalued rate for the time being, that is, actually, the deputy of the nbu is resuming operations with state securities, it somehow by the way , this story will be superimposed on if a tax on the purchase and sale of currencies is introduced, this tax to what extent i am familiar with the initiative only applies to the purchase of goods abroad. here, the mechanism is a very wrong mechanism, if in 2015 a completely understandable mechanism was implemented, and the taxation of specific goods , that is, the introduction of an additional duty, then this mechanism has never been tested before, and i emphasize once again that it will be a toz scheme, a toz scheme in order to actually bypass the implementation of valu directly on

the foreign exchange market and through it to purchase goods that will be sold. that is, someone privileged will simply have a 10% lower price for everything, that is, i would say so. who is so smart? understands how to use this, mr. vasyl. do you want to add anything else to this conversation? no, i would like to add what the national bank council gave in the recommendations to the cabinet. this is what i would like to say. we did not discuss there, we talked about possible additional taxes on imports, but duties on imports, but again, this is a matter for the government and they have to discuss it together with the verkhovna rada. that is, we can only recommend something that can have a positive effect on our balance of payments there or on our economy, and when we discuss in our studio, look very important also in addition to criticism. that is, let's get to the criticism, everyone can have their own point of view, and i already

live a lot of critics, it's just that sometimes some critics say one thing, another thing, simply and you yourself sit and think. and how? right? well, that's right , then who are you today? the city of the seat determines the point of view. there is an expression in russian and that 's why today if we say something and criticize it, we have to speak specifically. yes, we in part, i hear what you are conveying there, absolutely yes, that is, instead of this tax, it is necessary to introduce that and the tax is simple from the point of view there. well, i think that well, on other platforms you are discussing again . look at this potential draft law, will it be accepted in the verkhovna rada we don't even know. maybe they will come up with a different point of view, but what is needed. well, i hear during our broadcasts, actually, to help society make decisions, and sometimes to put pressure on those lobbyists who can also for example, to push some laws that are not beneficial for society, well, and regarding i think that this is exactly what we are doing here, and such a discussion is definitely useful, let's talk about the

topic there, if possible does not involve experts in the discussion, their decision is made in their own , inside these ministries, and then it is issued to the verkhovna rada of the verkhovna rada, the discussion is in the verkhovna rada, experts of the verkhovna rada are involved, business is involved, and in the cabinet of ministers sorry this is a serious criticism, first of all, its existence, the cabinet of ministers, you never consult with anyone, you make a wrong decision, then everything is thrown, again, if we are talking about journalism, there are all the possibilities for justifying wrong decisions, and i think it is absolutely wrong, so that you do not justify a wrong decision, consult before taking it in order to understand the consequences of what you are doing. by the way, even that communication and then justifying it, too, sometimes they don't do well, they don't do well those fires, actually, because we have, for example

, the history of the fuel crisis, which had obviously completely objective reasons, but also, well, non-market and erroneous mechanisms were used. we did not hear of any well, for example, just that someone would said but you know we made a mistake, for example there i don't know there the minister of energy would have said but it was a stupid idea from the very beginning, i tried to restrain everyone, but no one listened to me well, because there should still be some kind of responsibility, accountability, this is power in because people can admit mistakes and that's fine. it seems to me that this is the worst thing that we see when, for example, very yesterday, we had a very similar opinion, and they said with their noses about what is possible in the cabinet of ministers and in the president, er, zelenskyi sees that such for example, a minister like scarlet, he is quite toxic and not very effective, but the very fact that because of criticism, a decision must be made that will show that the appointment was wrong in the beginning is

considered a manifestation of weakness, this is a game played by putin we should not be i think yes yes yes this is how we continue this conversation, but gentlemen, let's go to the end, i'd better ask what, in principle, we should expect from the hryvnia exchange rate, and what actually happened during this jump, was someone able to make money from it, for example, was it such a pre-war swing when speculators simply made money on such things, in your opinion, and can this happen again in the near future, how can we predict the dollar exchange rate, if it seems to me that this is a question that is still equally interesting to everyone, they are very practical. yes, thank you, look, well, again, when the national bank fixed the new exchange rate for non-cash transactions at 36.6, that is, we saw there literally after a few days a significant increase in the cash market, and again, i will give my opinion as an expert in this matter , that is, i believe that there was a pure speculative

interest in the sound of non-banking financial institutions well , it is clear that the psychological factor on the part of buyers after a number of measures were taken with relaxed conditions on the foreign exchange market plus er there is a grain deal plus the taxes that have been introduced on imports, they were still healing, but they were arbitrarily, for example, it is all clear that in the complex of positives, they were reflected in the foreign exchange market. we observed how during and last sunday the exchange rate of the hryvnia against the dollar strengthened . of different banks and today we can say that there is a demand in banks - first of all, there is a dollar in the banks, for the first time you can come to buy a cash dollar, second - not all banks, but depending on the strategy, they sell a lot today, you can put a non-cash dollar up to uah 50,000 on a deposit there for three months or more, that is, at a very favorable rate there, 37, well, with pennies, that is, there are 30, well, now 7 strategies of the bank, someone is selling uh, 37-10, someone there is 750 thousand, but it’s all

the same it is much more profitable than uh, well, what are uh, uh, on the cash market at foreign exchange kiosks , for example? perspective, a lot of things today depend on how quickly the war will end, how quickly we will act, that is, how quickly we, well, you have a government, economic strategy, supporting enterprises , restoring the infrastructure of destroyed enterprises , providing the implementation of various financial programs of the state external financial aid, which we will that is, to receive the maximum from the policy of the national bank of ukraine. believe me , look again, we have a lot, but i sometimes hear criticism there, including a new address is there a high discount rate? yes, but this is a decision of the national bank. that is, all central banks are very often conservative, and in such difficult conditions, what decisions do the central

bank make? it is just that, in my opinion, it was and is the right question only that it played on 100% since we wanted to know why, for example, there are deliveries of pvdp yields are rising and are rising very moderately and still need to be raised, why is the state bank not growing interest rates on deposits, that is, i read well in others, that is, a lot of a complex of factors that influence the fact that the discount rate did not work 100%, as you would like. yes, it will work, but for a much longer period of time . thank you for this answer. after all, it was a wrong decision. why? because the 2.5 times sharp movement, which was not justified, the fact that it did not work, actually means that the national bank hoped that by raising the discount rate 2.5 times to 25%, in this way, it would force others players in particular the ministry of finance to raise the interest rate on the intrastate loan bond, and for mifin, in principle, it

had absolutely no meaning, that is, he continued to act as he did in this situation. and to match or the course gave forecasts that it would stabilize, it stabilized why because it was not speculation, it was just such a psychological factor in people who ran to buy the dollar after realizing that the official that's how high it is, it's all a psychological factor, it's not speculation here, i don't see any measures. thank you very much, gentlemen, yes, vasyl furman, deputy chairman of the nbu council, and ilyana shkadovska joined us today. who is in power, who is more critical, you know, that is, this is such a thing, this is the fee for more about the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant oleksiy ryabchyn,

deputy minister of energy and environmental protection of ukraine in 2019-2020, contact us e -is greetings from p. oleksiy, dear viewers. please tell me the probably fake statement of the russian major general vasiliev that the zaporizhzhia npp will be either russian or not, what is it preparing us for ? the risks of a nuclear disaster are ringing in russia, why should we prepare for what all russian propagandists say that they give such a message in order for ukraine to despair in order for ukraine to stop to fight eh, but this will not happen, we will fight for our land, for our objects, for our

people, for our territory, and we will win, regardless of such threats, both from russian propaganda and from russian politicians and from the russian military, although the situation is really a serious situation can worsen, and this is a standard tactic of the russians and blackmail, energy blackmail , military, er, they will try to further complicate the situation with this object, but well, i would not take the same statements so seriously that they are there on their own to leave the lost land because the wind is blowing on russia, the wind is blowing on turkey, the wind is blowing on belarus, that is, on europe, that is, it is so dangerous to play in such and such things that i think even

the military understands this. do you think that they are still restrained by the weather conditions and all kinds of natural circumstances, well, look, this is an interesting question, but the soldiers who stormed the nuclear plant shot at it, well, maybe they came down from some mountains, from which here - auls who have never seen in their life and do not understand what a nuclear power plant is and have already forgotten about chernobyl and did not tell their parents. well, it seems to me that generals even in the russian army, they have a little bit of a rivet in their heads , what is a nuclear facility, so i don't think that they will do detonations, yes and in principle, it would be difficult to do this, although this is the largest nuclear power plant in europe and stocks of nuclear fuel. well, i think there is much more fuel there

than there was near chernobyl, that is, the tragedy could be well, on a very large scale, very large, that is, it is first of all, about radiation pollution, which could be the worst scenario, i honestly don't want to just discuss it. i think that people have enough of so much negative news that it's true. i don't think i want to . the law in the red forest and plus there was something else there. they said something there that there was a word on the maps about the second world war or something like that, i can't remember at all, but there was such a thing that they didn't take into account that, er, chernobyl appeared a little later and the tragedy happened a little later, there was something in them, that's why i don't know if

we should be so confident in the wisdom of the russian leadership here, i support mr. oleksiy, i don't remember who said it from among the scientists, but he was very good, and maybe he even said it viktor dotsenko said exactly that, viktor dotsenko, a ukrainian scientist, a physiologist, he said very well the words that if the thought is not constructive, then i never develop it. actually, it seems to me that the thought about what these wild monkeys can do in principle to arrange with e-e energy rectors theoretically e it is not constructive because here it really is not here it is 80% it is if it never happens or there is more and if it is a station we cannot influence it and accordingly it is this opinion that is not constructive it has a development there's no point in smearing her, and it's just to make everyone feel some kind of unpleasant mood, i support this. i like this viktor dotsenko. he is a beautiful ukrainian scientist, thinker , optimist, who is not a pessimist, that's why everything is fine.

quote, i am talking about the fact that churchill, in addition to other well-known states, said that i see no reason to be a pessimist , especially during the war. and this is absolutely wonderful. his phrase, which he uttered during the second party, well, one more thing, it can be found out or not. i want only one thing what to ask? well, if they want to cut the wires, so to speak, and simply to cut off some kind of e-e from the nuclear power plant in such a barbaric way, what will happen? what are they they are probably planning or blackmailing us , the nuclear power plant is now a connection, well, a connection, well , that is, it is located in the energy system in the ukrainian system through the system of data wires there, so simplified, several of them have already been cut off, and we declare that there is only one such connector left that can if it is interrupted in some way, well, we will

lose the possibility of connection, this is really, well, a man-made disaster, because it will be very difficult to release this power to the network, and as far as i understand, if this is the case, then the russians want to strategize in a certain way, the energy meter was connected, but their gas was coming from those platforms that we bombed, they are still burning, according to what they said, that is, they have a problem now that in winter they will have problems with the crimea, so they think one of the thoughts is strategic to connect this zaporizhzhia station with the crimea, as it were, to connect it with the power system of russia, thereby recognizing a deficit for the winter in ukraine , destroying our plans to export electricity there, import electricity to the eu countries, that is, they can plan such damage yes and in principle, this fits into their logic, and they

have always either ruled out transit for us, looked at how we will react, we are looking at what they are doing from europe, the only answer to this is to have spare options, to know them, and the ukrainian side knows exactly what it will do and not to give in to this blackmail, for example, the europeans gave in to this blackmail, uh, this turbine in canada, the sanctions were removed from it and they got our land - it is our territory and it must be freed from these occupiers, but if suddenly they still uh, uh, they cut it, then i will cut it those wires of that what awaits us in autumn and winter, i was preparing for a difficult winter, one of the most difficult there is, and well, i'm just proud of the ukrainian energy workers, you see their work there every day, they do exploits and feats on the energy front every day, or they manage

ecosystems in such difficult conditions or restorers there damaged energy facilities, that is, such an energy front that many people hold and the question is that the winter will be difficult for them in terms of electricity and also in terms of heat , but we will pass it and 100% everything will be fine europe this energy blackmail that the russians are counting on will also pass. maybe tactically it will give them a certain satisfaction, you know , from the fact that they sow panic, they force many people to act outside of the norm according to the protocol, which protocols are, but uh, strategically , they lost in them they will occupy, not oil, not gas, but in the long term, even in the immediate term, they refuse it, they defend new contracts, and, well, they will simply destroy their economy, and these russians who

voted for putin now support this a special military operation, they just don't understand what they believe in russia, uh, it's just, well, it will collect very soon, because their oil and gas revenues, well , they simply won't be there, well, that's why they play and shoot themselves in the temple, in the knees, in the elbow there, and we'll put it on display, it will be fine in full at the end, you will ask briefly, i am literally in front of you - in front of you, we spoke with economists, with neshodovsky, with a driver, the deputy chairman of the board of the national bank, and that was a question not quite of course, maybe at the address, but i am asking you already as a deputy minister energy industry of the former and the fact that we had an attempt to regulate prices on the fuel market was absolutely quite unmarketable, and it is obvious that in fact the economy suffered losses from this because it was impossible to refuel something there something was at a standstill, some kind of logistics poured down and so on and

the like. that is, it played a role in some kind of cooling and without that. of course, the economy there is not doing very well in the conditions of the war, and there are other authors of this rather wild decision, which seems absurd even to a person who has only the basics of the knowledge economy well, i just don't hear anyone saying yes, listen, we were wrong, or should there be some kind of reaction? with energoatomo well, for example, does anyone have anything to say about this, she did something like that, but everything is fine, look , the responsibility for the constitution for such a procedure rests with the cabinet of the minister, yes , the cabinet of the minister is a collegial body he has different ministries that make policy, the

responsibility for the decision is taken either in the ministries, but when in reality the cabinet of ministers is still responsible, and if we are concerned there is responsibility . in principle, the state had fraudsters, yes, to save people from jumping, the goal of state regulations was to try to reach an agreement with traders, there was an attempt to solve a very difficult situation because there we had a very strong dependence on the oil market for products from belarus, from russia, and from supplies to the seas, we only had a corridor left - this is through europe and this logistics. understood that it was not possible to do this for objective reasons, then they let the situation go and

the market adjusted itself to the price increased there almost twice and now the new market is the new market equilibrium, what does she say that traders are on this of the market, they agreed to import, found how to rotate this gasoline, this resource, ukraine, and people have changed their behavior, who needs to drive here, pay more, who can’t, someone who ca n’t, can you find some logic in these decisions, ok, i heard you, thank you very much, there was an effort to save it was not possible to let go of the situation , the market adjusted it well, it affected the behavior of someone stopped driving, someone hounded to pay, you slow down, well, a philosophical question. how is it a question of driving more slowly to reduce fuel consumption thank you, sir, we still buy electric cars and do not leave auto products from gas and generally switch to green sources of sponsors of this hour

e.e. company nissan leafé to the deputy minister of energy and environmental protection of ukraine tomorrow in 2019-2020 of the people's nations, the general assembly of the united nations established in 1994 more than 400 million people in more than 90 countries belong to autochthonous peoples who do not have their own statehood or are often on the verge of extinction in ukraine, the indigenous peoples are officially recognized as crimean tatars, karaites and crimean people, the state guarantees the protection of their culture and language, the verkhovna rada passed the corresponding law a year ago, despite very harsh statements from moscow, putin did not like that the russians, whom they say should be protected, were not included in the list of indigenous peoples, in fact, moscow was frightened by another destruction of russian myths about the occupied crimea, not russian, what scraps what they are looking for there is not some medical affiliation of crimea to russia there since

the end of the 18th century, but the presence of three indigenous peoples who want and will determine their right on their land as part of the ukrainian state, and this scares moscow, according to the mejlis, after 2014 in the occupied crimea, all 12 independent crimean tatar mass media were closed, only 3% of children learn the fish language. and this is a direct path to the destruction of the language and culture of the indigenous peoples of the peninsula, ukraine's task is to prevent so, artem chigos is a people's deputy of ukraine, as i already said, and the chairman of the committee on ethnopolitics of the rights of indigenous peoples and national minorities. ukraine is with us, mr. artem, well, first of all, happy holiday to you. secondly, since there is now a full-scale war in ukraine and so many terrible and bloody news every day, it somehow took a backseat to how the crimean tatars in crimea feel now,

what their life looks like, tell me what you know, oh , i also quickly congratulate you that this is a holiday for ukrainians. they are also very important. we have many things in common, and we know how important it is to feel like a kindred tribe at home, so on your territory, to have all the rights that naturally belong to your nation, and in this matter we let's continue this path, let's say yes, i don't think that you should think that it's not the right time, you need to do it now. all the more so, do it now, when we all already

know and the government is demonstrating that we will move away from these russian stereotypes that we are not recently fraternal nations. uh, that we will definitely return to crimea, and that's why today, while the occupation is still going on, we need to do our uh, our homework and in this matter, i think that um, after the adoption of uh, the law of ocarinian peoples , the process of adopting such legal acts and i think that they will be on this path of struggle, and here we are in ukraine on the mainland and our compatriots in crimea, all of them have

been demonstrating for more than 8 years that despite the pressure and the attempts of the occupying power, how to break us as a nation and make it such a folklore group as others. unfortunately, the peoples who are now in the prison of the people in russia, that is, this process of struggle will continue until the end, until we return our motherland to me. thank you very much, mr. artem, actually, i think i don't understand why. it's still not time to raise the issue of finally

granting auto-e-e national autonomy to the crimean tatars. it seems to me that ukraine can do and give a very good signal, particularly in the temporarily occupied territories to the crimean tatars who remain there. and we understand why. and uh, i'm just advising. who else hasn't done this yet, you must watch a great movie home, a great movie home, this is active, all by tablaev. and the same is true of aliyev, who is about the crimean tatars who want to speak ukrainian and say those who are fighting in this war with the muscovites and are fighting but at the same time they are trying to return home