tv [untitled] August 9, 2022 5:30pm-6:00pm EEST
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a missile to the russian military warehouse in genichesk near genichesk. i look at the map and it is actually 200 km from here to kherson, and the deputy wrote that now we are getting there, it may be different versions now, it may be harkuns, by the way, release more than to repeat that i started this in the last days from the fifth to the seventh of august, respectively, ukraine hit several air defense systems in this direction yes and this makes it possible to use these high-precision weapons on important russian targets, that is, i think that we more we will see in the coming days, uh, others will say very nice gifts for us, these news are extremely pleasing, but on the other hand, always when there is some news that comforts all ukrainians and instills more hope that we are defeating the enemy, the enemy
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begins to do something in return and is satisfied let's say vinnytsia or olenivka and well, premonitions of something so bad, what can they do, what can they do again . the danger of new airstrikes, missile strikes, and i think that the russian federation can use almost the entire arsenal that they have, let's not forget the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, that is, how the russian federation will take revenge, well , it's very difficult to predict but it is clear that it will be directed primarily against the civilian population , i.e. the terror tactics of the terrorist countries. this is how it
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will be and will continue to be, i.e. the russian federation will only lose this war and cease to be for us for the game, thank you very much andriy karakut, the words of the geocenter of applied research, the center of international security, candidate of historical sciences, he was in touch with us, and don't neglect the air signals, of course, don't touch the air. this can never be done. well, especially now, well there really is in er in moscow, that’s what they sometimes call muscovites , it’s just their historical name, er, i was just a candidate in historical sciences to afford so what well, you clearly want not to take revenge on certain although the official version and this their propaganda margarita simonyan has already said that she is a criminal as a criminal, what was she saying? indeed, she is a version with a lighter butt, she is a real chieftain in lviv, and the first question is, what was the purpose of my coming here? for the first two months, starting from
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february 25, i was in lviv until the 19 in april, at one of the factories, we agreed with the director, who could not produce certain products. months of very intensive work in lviv, we sent to sumy, kharkiv, kyiv, and hm. rivne, to odesa, mykolaiv, we sent about one and a half thousand tons of humanitarian cargo, this is food, that's why i am connected to lviv, such rather serious moments are related to the war, and after on april 19, i returned to kyiv and we are now trying to do business, we are trying to restore what is possible, of course, it is very difficult to restore, that is why i
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came here purely with such a business trip, but with great pleasure i am ready to communicate with espresso with my favorite channel to talk with you and the politician will not leave me i remain a member of european solidarity we maintain relations seriously lutsenko zakopiv i am from kyiv so i am ready for a conversation let's uh let's start then with such a topic a-a and this topic is possible for us in particular, at the very beginning, the espresso channels faced certain restrictions, that is, we were excluded, you know, from digital broadcasting, and there is still no official explanation. what happened, there are some stories , then tkachenko said that someone there i wanted to make compromises, uh, i have some other statements from different people, uh, how cool it is in these
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conditions, uh, to convey the truth, is it important to convey the truth during war, or is it still more important propaganda propaganda during war for in order to win, the russians are doing this, i don't know what tkachenko said there, what postulates he was relying on, but as far as i know and every ukrainian knows this, there is the constitution of ukraine, article 34 of the constitution says that no one can be limited in freedom of speech and freedom of thought he has the right express on certain media to convey it, use it, and so on, to date, not only espresso, but also direct and the fifth channel are limited, they do not participate without any explanation in the general single marathon. and removed from digital broadcasting, this says one thing even during martial law, the government has no right to violate the constitution and its
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main basic postulates. and for how long there is no official explanation. this supposedly independent body should answer the question why did this actually happen ? why were three private pro-european state channels that profess ukrainian state european policy excluded from digital broadcasting? if there is no such official explanation, it means that it is not profitable for the authorities to allow tradition to communicate freely convey their information, but the law on the military period says one thing that the authorities can limit mass media in conveying information related to the war, for example, we disclose where our military units are located, what actions will be taken
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, these or other offensives, or what other actions will be taken related to some military operations, but our constitution does not allow any political censorship today, because the law on martial law can can limit only the reporting of some military information, political , yes, censorship, to date, there is no law and no changes in the constitution, i have not read and i have not seen this means that the authorities are not interested at all to see a progressive position that can convey an alternative opinion that can criticize certain actions of the authorities inside ukraine, therefore i do not consider it correct, and i think that both our european and american partners have repeatedly said that if we still plan to become a full member of the european union, then
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first of all, we should think about democracy not only in words, but democracy and in the impossibility of limiting the opinion, i will repeat the 34th article of the constitution and no one has repealed it, so i think it is enough the wrong manifestation of censorship in the political life of ukraine, ukrainians fought for their right to be free to express their opinions and have freedom several times on the maidans, our heavenly hundred died for it, therefore, such manifestations are unacceptable in this period, the same oleksandr tkachenko, the minister of culture, said that uh, they are the only ones the news of the national marathon will be spoken until ukraine wins and well, we understand that this process can drag on not for a month, not for two, not for two weeks , as he likes to lie on the air and to invent fairy tales there in order to maintain
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some kind of victory, it may be a year or two or three, this war may die down, its active phase may continue in a year, in two years, ukrainians must be prepared for a serious struggle, this means one thing that if they continue political censorship, we one fine day, we can wake up for some reason not in free democratic ukraine, but in belarus, and ukrainians must understand this situation that is developing, and it is a pity when about three and a half thousand members the european solidarity party, for which about 25% of ukrainians in ukraine voted in the elections for president poroshenko, is fighting for european solidarity, to prevent the parliament from including the opposition channels watched by these 25%. who are fighting about four thousand members of european solidarity, for whom a quarter of the population of ukraine voted, do not
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include these channels, do not let them listen to what you wanted these ukrainians to listen to, what is this not a restriction of democracy and freedom, not only the 34th article of the constitution, what is this a restriction of a certain circle of ukrainians who are fighting for ukraine today from their channels, this is inadmissible uh petition that citizens of uh russia should not enter ukraine, that they should be banned from entering ukraine for 50 years, it got 25,000 votes ah we understand that on some petitions, let's say about taking away the monument to catherine in odesa , the president says that he instructs the leadership of the city to deal with that monument, whether to leave it or not here. do you think there will be enough political will in the authorities to prohibit citizens from entering well, against the background of the fact that volodymyr zelenskyi has
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appealed to the world to ban visas for russians, i think that this will be resolved in the country in a legal and constitutional way, it would be correct to ban russians from entering for many, many years and not only because of visas, but to ban them from entering in general, and you look at today, the prime minister of estonia, the prime minister of finland and other other countries say that it is unfair if the russians, who elected putin, who have several terms of office, allow him to do such a thing without honesty, starting with moldova, transnistria , syria, georgia, and now ukraine. he plans to occupy them, they say that we will continue not only to restore the soviet union, but also to take other countries, capture them, and join them. this is no place for the russians, who chose such a government. i mean
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putin and his entourage, who do not fight him, who do not contradict him, who do not commit any maidans, as the ukrainians do when changing the government, a vivid example of how they removed yanukovych from office, the russians have no place in ukraine and in every union in the civilized world, because they show that they are ready to support terrorism a little more. i think that the whole civilized world recognizes russia as a terrorist country, so if the population does not fight, the russian population itself does not fight the terrorist putin, then why should they be allowed in a civilized country, i see no reason why not to make it a general decision not only in ukraine , but also in the european union and in other democratic countries of the world, and another e-e petition that appeared on the site or others.org is about releasing the leadership of the international e-e organization
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capacity international, and i can already see that there are 2,627 votes - just now, when i opened this site , 20 or so new signatures appeared before my eyes. and this is exactly what i wanted to talk to you about, as well as to oleksandra dorik , the coordinator of international cooperation of the center for civil liberties we will include her in our conversation, we welcome you, mrs. oleksandr, to our team, uh, what is this petition ? as the editor rightly wrote the gender in the details , they were created in order to change something in the
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world for the better, and in the end, over time, they turned into such unscrupulous corporations that work primarily for themselves, these are the words of tamara zlovina in this regard well, it is necessary to understand that ennosty international is an international non-governmental organization, unlike organizations such as the un or the osce. that is, it is a slightly different organization format and they are essentially a human rights organization, which means that they should take care of the protection of human rights in the first place, and it is obvious that with the release of this specific statement of theirs, because it is not from here, this press release is, in fact, precisely and shows that it is not clear what goal they wanted to achieve because , actually the appearance of this text is very harmful to ukraine and it may have long-term
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consequences, including a delay in the provision of weapons to ukraine or the legitimization of strikes by russia on civilian objects such as schools or hospitals , that is, in fact, their actions may lead to that the number of people, the number of ukrainians whose rights will be violated, including the basic rights to life, for example, may increase accordingly, of course, the appearance of this information from such a supposedly respectable organization has caused an extremely large number of questions and indignation, and absolutely correct indignation i am convinced that they themselves have this issue to resolve, but unfortunately for us, neither solving their issues, nor an apology, nor even any other statements that may follow will not remove the damage that was caused and this
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in fact, one of our biggest and most priority issues at the international level right now is how to maintain the focus of the international community on what is really important, what is really important is to stop russian aggression, to stop it on ukrainian terms, and this is precisely the information about all those atrocities committed by russia, and here i can only have one position, what are you? if you don't help, at least don't bother. and here is my own attitude to this situation with a statement of capacity international understands that, as i have already said, it will have very long-term negative consequences for ukraine, and our task now is to focus again on what is important, and the important thing is
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to stop russian aggression. last year, there was also a scandal related to the fact that the international clearly accused the ukrainian military of shelling residential areas in the donbass, and this is history. it seems to me that today we understand what is possible in this it's rather lazy, i would say, or a short-sighted approach, when we simply equate the victim and the aggressor, in a conventional way, a-a no, i just had a question or... please continue, mrs. oleksandr, well , actually, this is exactly what the minister of foreign affairs was talking about, and he absolutely rightly told that what, in fact, if you look at the reports of international organizations, not only the capacity
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, in fact, completely similar information appeared, well, in at least two reports, i saw it in the structure of the un eyes er, that is, when the same information appears within a short period of time, um, similar in essence, er, in different sources, er, well, this is no longer a coincidence. and from here, many questions arise, and what is really behind the publication of this information and er here er we must understand with you that er hmm human rights organizations they are supposed to maintain neutrality by their actions and contribute to the protection of human rights, that is, they also have such a preventive function in er with the publication of this text, everything happens completely on the contrary, and unfortunately, the appearance of this information, as i
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already said, in several sources at once indicates that it can be systemic, including activities aimed at weakening ukraine and the position of ukraine at the international level , because these the reports are read by those who make the decision to provide support to ukraine, including the governments of the states with which ukraine directly negotiates on the provision of military financial political support and so on, and even those who support ukraine may have doubts, and any doubts as a result can lead to a decrease in this support, so it is absolutely clear that in this story the beneficiary is only er. one country is russia and i am very sorry that er we find ourselves now in a situation where er we need to prove that according to international humanitarian law, all actions of russia are internationally
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illegal, that is, everything that is happening in ukraine is a consequence of russian aggression, aggression is illegal under international law, so it is clear that ukraine, which is exercising its right to self-defense in this case is implemented by protecting its population where russian troops appear, it is obvious that they do not appear somewhere in the middle of a wild field, but they appear in cities, so it is clear that both weapons and equipment end up there, and ukraine is absolutely legitimate i use all available methods and means in order to protect the population and resist the army of the aggressor . yes, i apologize.
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report by nasty international said that it is russia that carries out unjustified aggression, attacks civilians, civilian objects, and the ukrainian army tries to protect them ms. iryna also wanted to react to this situation ms. iryna i agree with the expert e-e in one statement who benefits russia is sure that the containers of international are blindly used, which repeatedly shows such a one-sided position, but i would like for our viewers to focus on the following, how was the information obtained for this of the report, interviews with citizens were taken in filtration camps located in the territories temporarily occupied by the russian federation . who are the people there? who are abused? who are
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tortured ? who are kept? parents are being collected some kind of information and they are being undressed, they are being mocked, and people in order to move to some better conditions conditions will say what they are set up to say and to discredit our armed forces, where were they for five months when the torture began in buch, in boyarka, in irpen, why did this information appear now , why did it gather unilaterally from one side, why were representatives from the ukrainian side of amnytsia international, and this woman who represented this organization in ukraine resigned. this was a protest about the fact that information was collected one-sidedly, but i want to say something else, why amnytsia international does not respond, for example, to the fact that our zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant was mined , the whole world, megawatts, and even the
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united nations, the hotel turned to russia to let representatives of international organizations that take care of the safety of nuclear power plants there, it could be a nuclear terrorist act by russia, anything, any shelling there any well, the situation is not certain and it could be 10 such chernobyl nuclear power plants 10 such disasters that occurred at the time when our chernobyl nuclear power plant broke down why the international if she is so progressive, if she worries about and cares about the issues of citizens' rights, why does she not raise these issues today, but pay attention to when this release appeared, this release appeared on the fifth month of the war, when we entered the third stage, when ukraine talked about the counteroffensive, when we have missiles that can
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fly 300 km and already in novofedorivka, which to date has taken place at these 16 airfield shellings, speak of one thing, russia is starting to use any methods of information war and discrediting of russia and ukraine. please forgive me, understanding that we are already moving into a completely different stage of military operations. russia perfectly understands that with the help of these missiles provided to us by the united states and nato countries, which hit at 70-150-200 -300 km, we are gradually beginning to equalize and improve the parity of forces at the front , therefore russia will use amnesty international and other public organizations and its so-called well, for example, the former chancellor of germany negotiations are needed, it is necessary to talk. it is necessary to
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sit down with russia for renegotiations, as of today, russia understands that it is losing, that this situation is not in its favor, therefore any information wars and discrediting of ukraine and er and nato and any opportunities to try to gain time to discredit ukraine, to pledge the whole civilized world not to trust ukraine and not to provide certain weapons, a vivid manifestation of this is this release, which today, a week ago, emnosti international e-e-e, well, made public what we are talking about today we are talking to ms. oleksandr, i have a short question for you, actually, for now, again, we are talking in front of my eyes, the number of signatures under this petition is changing, how do you think it is being listened to by the international management
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, the management, i don't know, maybe the composition of the international, before that to change the leadership in connection with the fact that people are asking for this, well, this is their decision, we cannot influence how decisions are made in non-governmental international organizations, but i think that i will express to express one's position to the citizens, of course, it makes sense, if we just need to understand, let's understand that in this particular case, the international agencies did us a lot of harm , but we need to understand that, well, now they were just a tool, and this is one of the symptoms of a very big and serious problem that we are dealing with is the undermining of trust in the actions of ukraine at the international level. and that is why i emphasize that it
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is extremely important for us to focus all our attention now on that at the international level, of course therefore, to keep the focus on what is important, it is important to stop russian aggression, to ensure that all crimes are recorded and that they are given a proper assessment at the international level through the courts or a tribunal, if it is created, so that justice was restored specifically in this situation, thank you for your comment oleksandr drik, the coordinator of international cooperation of the center for civil liberties , was with us, and i would like to ask you again show this petition already 2663 votes, that is, while we are talking, about 40 new signatures have appeared, join. also, i think that one way or another, this petition in the
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international container will pay attention and think about how to implement reports in ukraine, eh, and what to write in these reports, the german publicist hand-brotherny wrote about it so long ago what about those people in germany who go to protests with calls no war stop giving weapons to ukraine it only prolongs the war he says if you are so against the war then go out with posters also so that there are no posters for example putin is a murderer of children or if you do you want to stop these deaths faster, but ukrainian civilians are dying, not russians, so why don't you go somewhere, for example, to an audio store there and become a human shield so that they don't shoot at you and don't stand in front of the kremlin with the same posters putin stop shooting putin withdraw his troops putin , stop abusing the citizens of ukraine. putin
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is a murderer. why is it not so easy to say this in germany in a secure, calm network that has been used to trading with putin for many years? it literally only takes a minute at most. the problem is that in our country, relatively speaking, we, and especially in the west, do not understand what hitler is, what will happen to one berry field, i think that the people who support ukraine. we saw thousands and thousands of people who supported ukraine, and to this day they support them perfectly understand this situation, but of course that many years of work , many years of work of russia on the information front . and about the fact that ukraine is not a state that it is. it is not serious that it should be part of russia, it has done its job. i support our expert in one needs propaganda, but channels that all
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