raise, put some reserve solid fuel so that if you cannot provide heating at the level there, the heat carriers should be supplied there at 6580°, at least supply 40 so that people at least do not freeze, that is, at least somehow because the electrical networks of the masonic cannot withstand the loads and they will not be able to replace all this the power of the gas boiler will be taken out of service, hmm, but each settlement can have its own scenario , so what do we do when to whom what do we do when we have a power outage what do we do when our networks are disrupted there, and so there is the resettlement of everyone, some school or some drink there, a basement where there are scumbags, this is one of the options for bad decisions, but they must be planned accordingly, these scumbags must be stored somewhere for them, there must be fuel stored somewhere, that is it must be prepared somewhere or, again, check if you have friends, acquaintances, relatives

there, do you have any houses there, outside the city, there are no stoves there, you cannot move there, because it is also not a question of just well, why warm yourself? that is, you it is necessary to cook food somewhere, on why, that is also a question, because you are in an apartment on the fifth floor , it is unlikely that you will be able to burn wood there on gas , and they somehow cooked it there. that is, you must have a plan, and those cities in the east are even more difficult for them because they have this mixture of security and challenges, that's why the military administration is calling on people to deviate and leave because there are military operations there. it's just that there, it's difficult to ensure military security there, and it's even more difficult to ensure civilian security and the system of life there. that is, i i would have listened to the advice of the soviets, but nevertheless there are still people who stubbornly remain in their homes, so what do they do if they still do not respond to calls to evacuate, so that you

advise them, because we understand that it is centralized and even polls, let's say, say the latest poll about ukrainians, that ukrainians finally grew up as a result of the aa war hmm became more responsible for their own lives more began to take their own lives into their own hands and somehow decide that you would advise them if they still stay there how to provide for themselves somehow, i would advise them to get together with the neighbors and buy these generators, i probably wouldn't advise them, i would just ask them, er, i would ask them not to make others suffer due to the fact that they are not able to make decisions about themselves, because others will suffer, others will, well, really understand that they are sick there and they will be forced to deliver something to them there, some food, some water, some heat, some firewood, some other things, and accordingly, there will be some volunteers who will be exposed to

shelling. other people who will not be able to leave you as it is and will try to help you, and i think even the relationship with other people is not completely honest about yourself. thank you, mr. svyatoslav svyatoslav pavlyuk, the executive director of the association of regions of cities of ukraine, was in touch with us eh, next we add to the conversation oleksiy orzhel, the minister of energy and environmental protection in 2019-20 . begins to switch the air defense system to crimea how quickly this process is happening and what does it mean for ukraine well, let's do it, we think that after all, yes, yesterday such a bright and positive event is not

so related to the switching of the air force to the load a- and the crimean peninsula is temporarily occupied , and they already planned it a long time ago, taking into account the fact that the occupied object would be used somehow. they have the crimean peninsula in a normal state today because they lost the so-called boyka towers, which is somewhere around 1.5-1.4 billion cubic meters of natural gas, they created a new generation using natural gas to cover the consumption of the peninsula, they brought it across the crimean bridge er, the relevant gas supply capacity, but considering what they have lost, they really, well, it is the volumes of

natural gas, they can really consider the er zaporizhia nuclear plant as a source of covering the necessary er energy costs of the peninsula. therefore it was their basic plan to always switch the zaporizhia nuclear power plant to self -consumption, but this requires real, well, that is, physical actions of physical disconnection of networks from the ukrainian energy system on page one gas station is synchronized with the unified energy system of ukraine and itself the unified system - the ukrainian system is synchronized with the european system. therefore, it is necessary to physically disconnect the e-e networks, respectively, provide the e-e load and synchronize this load with the temporarily occupied territory. maybe they are somewhere, somehow are thinking about their russian regions,

but on the other hand, here is the logic of including such a large basic generation as the zaporizhzhia nuclear power station, well, that is, nuclear distance. they work without maneuvering and they cannot change their loads very quickly, and in in terms of the volume created by the crimean peninsula there, it is of the order of one gb, and the zaporizhzhia station there is 6 gigabytes, well, this is also a certain challenge, a challenge by the dispatcher , a technological challenge, therefore, based on the fact that they lost maneuvering power using natural gas, i don't know, it's also not quite adequate, and the energy balance, so they will also have problems, as yesterday they had problems at this military airport with air bags.

last week, prime minister shmygal said that ukraine is 60% ready to of the heating season, you can somehow interpret this percentage, is it good or bad, what does it mean? well, i would not talk about such large numbers now, when our ukrainian cabinet of ministers or the government or the president say that we are generally ready, you can say about big numbers that we may have somewhere around 15 billion cubic meters of natural gas, and it is really possible to spend the heating season on these volumes, taking into account the reduction of the load, we can talk about 2-2.5 million tons of coal that can be accumulated due to the fact that there is currently no such consumption we always had again because of the fact that industry stopped because of the fact that, after all, the population consumes less, but here the question is different here the question is that in

each individual case, each individual city, village, will have its own specific situation if in the front-line cities, and this is kharkiv, mykola. well, there is a very serious question regarding the beginning of the heating season, and the cities that were temporarily occupied or under serious pressure, such as chernihiv and kropivnytskyi, there are also huge problems with infrastructure facilities and heat supply and let's not ignore the fact that the russian federation is a terrorist party, and when the heating season starts, it will potentially attack the heating systems, creating even more pressure on ukrainians, so everyone in a separate case, there may be a situation when either the centralized system is destroyed or

the water supply system is damaged there, and i would be more pleased with mr. shmorgal's statements or even photos against the background of these mobile boiler houses that they are talking about and that they have allocated appropriate funding 1, 4 billion , and perhaps even more should have been allocated to the repair fund of our heat networks and water supply systems for the present - mobile boiler houses that must be mobilized ready at any point of ukraine to appear and be connected and ensure the temporary operation of heat supply systems while repair work is underway well, so far i do not see this in relation to the druzhba oil pipeline, there was a message that the pumping was stopped because the russians simply do not pay for it, so what is there now

, uh, they are suffering from this now, by the way, those countries where this russian should have gone. well, this is a general tactic of the russians. they say that they can not pay because they are under sanctions, and you lift the sanctions because we press accordingly we do not supply oil, we do not supply natural gas , or sanctions will be lifted or we will not supply , accordingly, we will do certain critical moments to create deficits on the markets of europe, as far as i saw, there was an offer from the hungarian side from the molt company about what they are willing to pay, and on the ukrainian side, the money and then in order to ensure the transportation of oil, i think that it can still turn into a certain decision at the level of economic entities, but if the sieve is transferred again, this moment in political, then they will find 10 arguments why

they can't pay why they can't transport they are not an adequate party to the contracts, so let's see how it will be if, after all, it will be possible to pay from hungary and who will possibly restore this volume this can affect the mood of the citizens of europe, because there they already talk from time to time about the fact that they have a full-fledged up and especially fuel prices or whether everything they have will remain on our side. well, you are also the right question raise er, it is, firstly, information policy , secondly, it is er, consumption restrictions, and thirdly, it is still some certain regulatory instruments of price restrictions, if they create a rather serious pressure on the market and lead to er record prices there

on energy carriers in europe and in fact, yes, with the beginning of the heating season, it will be difficult, this is the beginning of the heating season, when the budgets of europeans will be hit hard, and the prices of cars, oil products, and first of all, heat -supplied natural gas, they will come to their politicians and say that well, after all, we have to look at it from the point of view that it is very expensive for us and it is very expensive to support ukraine, but there is hope that the group will prepare , it is now actively engaged in this. we have seen the decision to limit the 15% of consumption and there is a plan to limit natural gas, there are still certain modes of work with oil products, but this will be a challenge and i hope that european

policies and principles we defend and stand on will be more important for them in principle than the budgets of the europeans, but again it will be difficult. well, we understand that now it makes no sense for us to even try to build some kind of terminal there, being vulnerable to various threats there , nevertheless, for ukraine, it will also be important to increase supply, obviously there will be supply and by sea routes to europe of some kind of liquefied gas there, for example. could this also be some kind of source for which too ? the terminals that are located in poland are the ship's mouths , and how many are being completed, and we can look

at certain volumes from slovakia and hungary. we also, taking into account the constant shelling , said that the situation in the economy is still changing. there may be a decrease in consumption, and if there are attacks on the e-e infrastructure, there can be a significant reduction in consumption at once. in this case, it is difficult to say what the options are, but potentially, it is still possible to have a certain perspective of obtaining natural gas from the european side, from the other side, and i added here that again , there was a conversation about this, that starting from march-april, it is necessary to put pressure on the russian it is necessary to pay the federation less, but still to take away resources from it, it uses blackmail, it does it deliberately by raising prices and,

accordingly, receiving more income if european countries came out with a united front against the russian federation and demanded a price reduction and accordingly, we received in volumes well, if there is a complete stoppage of supply and it is on the horizon in general, then well, here again, it is a completely different level of negotiations well, if the blackmailer creates such conditions, then work with him accordingly. it is also necessary to the level of a certain pressure, what's up, mr. oleksii thank you, oleksii ozhyn, the city of energy and environmental protection, was in touch with us in the 19-20s. thank you for these important explanations, yes, andrii, the audience advises what to do uh, with hot batteries in the summer and lyudmila shekhovtsova says uh as long as the batteries are warm enough to dry apples and pears in the winter, they will come in handy. i'm already adding fuel

. thank you very much for the good advice. if we could raise the temperature a little more, well, literally 10 degrees, we could still fry an omelette there in the morning on these batteries, in principle, we wouldn't waste it. gas for it, although here to save money, so we are waiting. how will it be pressed, which direction is the temperature, and then we will ask him how much it is, such pears are dried, but people are aware of such a situation that hot batteries can be in the summer, so the ukrainians know how to in all situations with a minus sign, find a plus. this is the spirit of entrepreneurship, which i think is terribly underestimated in ukrainians. it very often develops in the direction of the ability to build various corrupt ways and schemes in order to bypass various bad laws, various other corrupt superstructures from above yes, that is, there corruption is brought down from above, and people from below time and again

bypass them with their own corrupt tricks. to take advantage of this war, also with a minus to a plus. so that ukrainians learn not only to bypass schemes, but also to monitor those who build some schemes, to give them a hand so that they do not come up with those schemes, to monitor those who accept illegal ones. at the stage of adoption of those laws , let's go ahead and write the text of the law, then we will agree with you and we will abide by this law, because so far ukrainians still live in the soviet union, laws are there to break them alexei garan is a professor of political science at the mohyla academy. yanukovych is the director of the democratic

initiative fund. treat the soviet dictator joseph stalin and in principle it is comforting because finally ukrainians have sharply increased their negative attitude towards this figure, but you know what saddens me wasn't there supposed to be a full-scale war in that country, so that ukrainians uh-uh suddenly started to have a negative attitude towards stalin, even though that stalin uh-huh shortened the lives of millions of ukrainians uh-huh and especially especially also so indicative that uh-huh, that's where the east is the attitude towards stalin is so much softer. and just

there people were hungry to say that this gap, this dissonance. he has corrected himself very much in these literally six months, that is, if it was a difference in times, today it seems much smaller, only eh 12 % even in the east they believe that it was stalin a significant leader and a good reformer told me that we will consider a russian poll, i was actually preparing for it. that is, i don't know which poll you are quoting and what the results are, but what can i say that in reality there is a negative attitude towards stalin. "appeared not after february 24, it has been recorded for several years, all the changes began after 2014, and while for russians stalin is a positive character, for ukrainians

he is a negative character. that is, it was confirmed. sorry, it was confirmed sociological polls are different, and if we talk about e.g., we conducted mini-initiatives, that is, we are here about our attitude to history, historical memory, they went in diametrically opposite directions with the russians, and two years ago, we recorded with mini-initiatives that 50% of ukrainians already believe that e is the molotov pact - ribbentrop this was a prelude to the impetus for the second world war, this is a very large number because in russia this topic cannot be discussed in such a way that everything would be clear here. well, it is a very interesting moment that it was somewhere in the early 90s in in russia, it seems, there was a majority of those who condemned stalin and considered him a bloody tyrant. it is very interesting how and i am not sure that in ukraine then more people condemned stalin in the early

90s and late 80s. and many said that ukraine could become in the end, all fears were a communist reserve, remember, and things seemed to be democratic and yeltsin was progressive there, remember. i remember, but it was. this was the argument of those who said that on august 24, 1991, there was no need to declare independence from russia. there are several deputies in the verkhovna rada who said that this should not be done because we will separate from democratic a-a democratic russia, but already in the first years of ukraine's independence, they showed that countries are moving in different directions, and this is very telling because if we will remember the year 1993, when the russian constitution was adopted. it was adopted after the democrat yeltsin bombarded with tanks and shot the russian parliament, too

bad, also about the communist one, but he shot and then the constitution of ukraine was oh, i'm sorry russia was adopted in a referendum bypassing the parliament. and this is the constitution of this year. and in fact, in this constitution of 1993, authoritarianism is embedded in it, which we still see constantly . just about this event that you mentioned about the shooting of the parliament, when it really turned out to be a miracle , our stories here diverged, but immediately after a month or two, it was yeltsin who opened yeltsin's monument to yaroslav the wise in moscow it seems that in st. petersburg or in moscow, moscow is also speaking - yeltsin spoke, that is , the democratic president there, who actually shot his own parliament, just as he was opening this

monument and then said that phrase. he said that yaroslav the wise is our great prince русский russian, that is, he also gives us an example how to collect land, this is a phrase that perhaps many people did not pay attention to at the time, this is also some important point , that is, they already appropriated to themselves in general , that is, to continue this policy of appropriation of ukrainian and at least common history, and it was precisely this emphasis on the imperial policy on the revival of the imperial councils that started early, there are friends, yes, you are right, they sent out to discuss the russian polls, it is true, i prepared everything for this, and moreover, i looked at the original of this study and i want to say right away that i am very angry with ukrainian journalists, not with the espresso channels, but with those who gave this news about it, for example, the survey was honored by me, the ukrainian truth is that she painted all this

survey, how many russians want to continue the war with ukraine, how many do not want to, but at the same time, the journalist obviously did not even bother to look at the original of this survey, yes, because it is on the website of this company called russkoe pole, and they are not the first to give these results, so guess how many well you you probably already know, because i wrote to you about it, i would like to ask you as a guest editor how many russians agreed to take part in the survey, the number of refusals is somewhere between 80-90% on various issues, and more than 6%. i.e. 94% refused and this is not the first time what is the permissible threshold? right away i want to clarify what is the permissible threshold for a telephone survey. i understand that the number of refusals is, in principle, not small. in any telephone question, it is not. well, it is not 5%, listen, yes, that is, it is clear. this poll is becoming more

unreliable and we understand that during some uh-uh some war uh-uh uh-uh well not some kind of war and i mean any war the number of people who want to answer in which totalitarian country is russia it is smaller and smaller but there is on the website of this of the russian field there is a sign because they are not conducting the first survey, it is somewhere around 8-survey and this number in principle, it remains standard, so that is, 95% of russians do not want to participate in the survey at all, and of these three or four percent, they start this survey, yes participation, and then when they hear the word ukraine, war, they say no, no , no, we won’t discuss it like that, so it’s a shame that we have such a general trend. unfortunately, when we comment on sociological polls, people saw the numbers. bach journalists

they launched it and it started walking. by the way, i wrote on ukrainian pravda that i should at least write about the level of support. well, i wrote yesterday late in the evening , but so far the news is the same as it was. once again, this survey is obvious, well, in general, it can be very difficult to be considered a survey and the rejection rate, it indicates that this is a totalitarian country, it is talking about real public opinion polls, it is very conditional, what can we say, we can say that a-a, out of these five percent, which uh-uh, which uh-uh took part survey well, more than half of them say that they want to continue the war, but at the same time, the majority of russians do not want to participate in it, either

personally or financially, and they were ready to support the conclusion of peace from these five percent well, we can say that it is very deep if the conclusions we learned as a result of conducting this, uh, this survey, again, any survey that was conducted in russia with such an even refusal, but it is obvious that sir, in general, it is still possible to simply become, i absolutely agree with your argument by the way, i want to emphasize that we said the same thing about this yesterday that we do not think that this is a full-fledged survey, it is interesting for two reasons . we must have asked some promotions in this context. and secondly, what is promotion? this is

this. these measures are formulated in such a way that, as it were, not so bad for putin, yes, there is a survey , but it is detailed for 10 articles, and you can see the number of dissatisfied people, etc., but we know that most people do not read the entire survey, but they read the conclusions, and the conclusions were formulated by us that well, it is more or less abnormal for a peasant. that is, it is also a certain element of manipulation, and it is obvious, er, well, they let this russian field conduct research and ask some questions about the war, in return it prints the results, but at the end it gives such the conclusions that will be published in the press are written that well, maybe we supported it, yes, 60% support the decision

on a new offensive, for example. that's why it's all a game, it's all manipulation. and i wouldn't pay attention to it. when we hear about these pseudo-referendums in the occupied kherson parts of the zaporizhia region, you understand, they want us to discuss it, they will throw different numbers at us and they want us to discuss it , discuss these fake fake things that's why i think that here it is necessary to say right away there is nothing to discuss, however, there are 30% in the occupied territories of zaporizhzhia in zaporizhia oblast and kherson oblast, only 30% of ukrainians say that they support all that, that is , again, this is a project, listen. well, where did it come from?

how do you know this number, where does it come from, who , yes, once again with this survey, which are conducted there, well, this is a pseudo-drinking. i even interviewed them if it is conducted by the russians in the occupied territory. there are companies that, well, to order, to order, they can conduct some more or less like, uh, oleksiyovych , in the end, i will say what is really the reason. imagine, excuse me, imagine that you are in the occupied territory and they approach you and ask . the work is also composed by mr. oleksiy, and putin himself needs some polls, does he care what his people think, some closed for him, not for the people, well, you understand , if this decision-making process took place