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42,800 personnel from the personnel in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine eliminated 160 occupiers with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine has 1,832 tanks, 9.76 armored combat vehicles, 971 artillery systems, 261 multiple rocket launcher systems, 133 air defense systems, 232 aircraft, 193 helicopters, 35 units of automotive equipment, 15 ships, boats, 185 cruise missiles, 766 drones, 89 units of special equipment. the property of the soviet union and when the organization of the united nations will finally expel the russians from the entire organization,

we are talking about all this today in our program, our guest diplomat, the permanent representative of ukraine in of the united nations in 2015-2019 volodymyr yelchenko p volodymyr good day good health and thank you for participating in our program good day to you mr. volodymyr let's start our conversation from crimea yesterday on the occupied peninsula at the russian military airfield there were explosions as the armed forces of ukraine report that nine aircraft of the russian federation were destroyed yesterday. the ministry of defense of ukraine stated that it could not determine the cause of the fire, but once again reminds of the rules of fire safety and the prohibition smoking in unspecified places so 9 planes per day is the biggest loss of russian aviation since the beginning and we will never give it up

, president zelensky said, we listen to the president, the presence of russian occupiers in crimea is a threat to all of europe and to global stability, the black sea region cannot be safe until crimea occupied, there will be no stable and long-lasting peace, and in many countries on the coast of the mediterranean sea, while russia is able to use our peninsula as its military base, this russian war against ukraine and against the whole of free europe began with crimea, and it must end with the liberation of crimea, mr. volodymyr. moscow constantly threatens ukraine that if we liberate the peninsula by armed means, they will use nuclear weapons. a year ago, the crimean platform was held in kyiv. the leaders

of many countries met and discussed options for solving the crimean issue, but considering these six months that have already passed, what order or procedure do you see for the liberation of the crimean peninsula from the russians i think that today, apart from the military way of liberating crimea, there are no other options left. we remember that in the 14th year, for 5-6 years, we talked about this and our western partners well, if the issue of donbass is such a short prospect of the liberation and return of this territory of donbass to ukraine, then it is a much longer story, because it actually turned into such a huge military base instead of a resort and health resort as before he was called and it was clear well, the kremlin will not

give up crimea just like that, but it is not surprising that this is the paradox of this war, it is that even our western partners, who, in every possible way, restrained ukraine from any such statements regarding crimea , because they believed that this would lead to the beginning of such a large-scale war, but as we saw, it began long before the prospect of the liberation of crimea arose, that is, actually speaking with their own hands. it seems to me that putin and his swindlers are simply bringing the return of crimea closer what if well, together with the liberation of the entire south of ukraine, i think that the liberation of crimea is a permanent issue. although it is of course up to our military to decide when and how to do it, i think that we will see this perspective quite soon, and rome is the territory of ukraine, and therefore any other situations regarding who is where and what was fired at by what

means we we we we all heard the whole world heard the statement of the ministry of defense of ukraine i think that from this version you should refrain here and smoke less and smoke less there rest and think about the fact that there is a crimean bridge cannot be quickly removed from there , and in the future it is possible that the bridge will no longer exist, and then it will be much more difficult to do it, so that in the place of those crimeans who became crimeans, let's say in the last years of the 16th year, they need to think very hard and for the sake of dignity, the information that is in the media is already russian military there, all kinds of people are taking their families and relatives from crimea, that is, they probably know something like that . events in the crimea and in general before the outbreak of the great war full-scale in all regions of ukraine, the kremlin

said that well, we are ready to negotiate with the ukrainians if they recognize crimea as russian, if there will be a certain status in the so-called lpr and dpr, if ukraine will be demilitarized. diplomacy, that the diplomatic ways in general, in the current situation, to solve the issue of the war between russia and ukraine are generally non-existent, and yesterday it was, well, a point that indicates that ukraine will obviously not negotiate with russia has nothing to do with its territory . well, i will say frankly, knowing the russians and my diplomatic activities, well, it has been quite a long time, several decades. from the very beginning, i did not believe in any prospect of peace negotiations

, at least with with this russian regime, we don't know what will happen next, when it goes there, how will putin go, hmm, but i'm pessimistic about what will happen to russia in the future, because after putin, it seems to me that it won't be better, maybe there will be there will be a more diplomatic way of solving the problem, but let's hope that russia will change its position and its aggressiveness in just one day, and i will say this, let's sit down and agree how we will return ukraine to you, you know. pay attention to the fact that all russian factors of all kinds constantly repeat that the refusal of crimea - this is a kind of sentence for any russian president, because this is a sacred question for them, the place is the city of glory for sailors and so on, but for some reason no one thinks about what, besides, he was and is ukrainian , secondly. what is the leadership? of ukraine in

for any ukrainian president to give up crimea, for some reason no one thinks about the fact that it is the same adventure, that is, even if hypothetically some president of ukraine agreed to this, well, he will not even start talking about it, and society will not allow him to do this in the first place. secondly, president zelenskyi, well, every day. this confirms that there are no negotiations about non -return there or about uh, well, some other status of crimea than the territory of ukraine, uh, there can be no talks. so, uh, i do not reject the possibility that some diplomatic we will see whether there will be ways or prospects, but you know, i constantly emphasize that, according to my deep conviction, today the main negotiator from the ukrainian side is the armed forces of ukraine and their successes in the future. i

am sure that they will not allow the ukrainian diplomat either let's move on to some serious conversation. and all those conditions that we've been hearing about since the end of february this year. well, they're not talking about identification anymore. bandera is gone. i guess they caught him somewhere and hanged him. i don't know, but everything else looks it's just funny. well, it's exactly the same as it would look today, for example, to actually sit down at the negotiating table with the russians and they'll say yes, let 's leave now . you said that you have known and cooperated closely with russian diplomats there for a very long time, including the un, or at all. now there is some kind of russian diplomacy as such that can negotiate with which you can negotiate because we we are watching how over the last few

years, the entire contractual base between ukraine and the russian federation has basically been ignored. that is, we remember that there was a large agreement on the recognition of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine and russia, where the stay of the russian of the black sea fleet in crimea this agreement was signed in 1997 by yeltsin and kuchma, then we had a series of various agreements on cooperation, including economic cooperation, then - these quotas were before the war before the big attack then there were minsk agreements one minsk agreements two all all documents the entire contractual base that existed between the two countries was simply ignored by russian diplomacy and the russian leadership and here there is a question in general if we are to restore or let's say some kind of dialogue or agree on something, then

what documents should be relied on in the bilateral relations between ukraine and the russian federation, there is no trust in russia and there cannot be, so you repeated this long list of this and that. regarding this violation, i think it is difficult to find something in international law that russia did not violate, and actually speaking, russian diplomacy starting there, approximately somewhere in the same 97th year, maybe a little later, from the end of the 90s. in principle, it existed. that is, we sincerely believed that the agreement on the distribution of the black sea fleet and the black sea fleet was signed. in general, a great agreement and experience were achieved. this is between ukraine and russia . later i i remember once we counted that the contract base

between the whole of ukraine consisted of more than a thousand contracts in all kinds of fields, and in principle it all worked. no, but what russia started to do in 2011 is all it destroyed and destroyed uh, this base no longer exists. well, many documents were simply said to have been defunded by us russians, but in fact, even if there is something left, well, i still have some agreements as part of the cis that we signed with ukraine from the cis, the final ones have long since come out and that's not all that is, there is no trust left. and when there is no trust , it is about diplomacy and you don’t have to talk. i would like it all to end sooner, but i

don’t believe that, well, at least with this generation, we will be able to sit down at the negotiating table with the russians, as before, and do something with them. to negotiate because they understand only power, trickery, cynicism and all kinds of destruction of everything that is called normality in relation to the state. and the main thing is that it is trust, which there is none. i think it will not be many more decades, mr. volodymyr, i want to mention one agreement between ukraine and the russian federation, it was signed by kuchma in 1994, it was about the so-called distribution of assets and liabilities of the soviet union, this agreement was called the zero-option agreement. i remember very well how in 1995-96 they tried to ratify this agreement through the supreme council , since this is an international agreement and it was about the fact that ukraine renounces its debts

and obligations in the part of the soviet union, and it was 16 whole 38 hundredths of a percent of our share, that is, we had 16.38% of our assets and liabilities hundredths percent, just a few weeks ago, the ambassador of ukraine to great britain, vadym prystaiko, spoke about the fact that he declared that ukraine could return to declaring its claims for a third of the foreign property of the former soviet union, which after 1991 transferred to the russian federation hmm, that’s already the story regarding the return to this zero option, the revision of this agreement on the zero option was introduced in 2014, said the then minister of justice, e.e. pavlo petrenko, but nothing happened in principle, well for 30 years there, as they shared how kuchma and yeltsin agreed on this zero agreement, this is how it

is happening, do we have a prospect in the event of our victory to return to the agreement before revising this agreement on the so-called zero option, so constructively it is clear that there is simply again for this you need trust, and russia actually created this problem with its own hands, because there really was an agreement, there was a so-called zero option , and there were a few more steps to be taken . they gave up, for example, the diamond fund there, a part of many other things, russia supposedly paid some soviet debts there for everyone, including with e-e for ukraine, but she categorically refused to even give information about the what is the size of this diamond and gold or gold or currency fund, when we talk about foreign property and you really don't know when

people hear such terms foreign property, the first thing that comes to mind is the embassy there, the former soviet, and actually in for each country, there are dozens if not hundreds of objects, i answer. when i worked in austria, in one day, we counted on our own, because the russians categorically denied your information. well, somewhere around 25 or more various objects there are some hospitals, some dachas of the ambassador, er, well, you understand in austria, which was actually occupied here, er, part of it by the soviet troops until 1955, in general, there are a lot of things left in such a strange, let’s say, status, but even in such a country, where you know when the houses that were standing were destroyed, that is, give these houses to ukraine and exactly the same could

be done in the same great britain of the driving countries and then maybe we went to this final distribution and today we would not have a legal basis for this i didn't go to buy it again. but instead, she gave us such a list of 20 or 20 objects, some former half-ruined houses in africa, mongolia, somewhere on the outskirts of china, that is absolutely everything in ukraine it was not necessary, of course, we gave up on this, we made a list of what normal objects included in the food of austria in the same way in london is exhausted but it is clear that we, as then and today, can legally claim all this. i think that the time will come when we will be able to return to this issue, but it is much more important for me

to think about the future reparations that russia has to pay us for all the horrors of destruction that it has created since february 24 of this year. completely another i think that there is that property, god is with it, we don't need it today, but we have to pay for everything hmm but the naked ones that were brought in ukraine will have to pay for it and i think that it will be done today we know that it is already frozen there are a lot of russian assets in the countries of western europe, in canada , in australia, and in the united states of america, and the time will come, well, these countries just need to find such, you know, legal e-e in a principled approach so as not to violate the laws and bilateral agreements with russia and that all property can be it was possible

sell it and allocate the money to ukraine at least well, if not as reparations, then at least as funds for the reconstruction of everything that was destroyed, starting from february 24 of this year, mr. volodymyr, i cannot ask you about one more legacy of the soviet union that was appropriated russia is a place in the organization of the united nations, we know that in 94 ce in 1945, when it was just organized , among the founders of the united nations organization were the ukrainian ssr, the byelorussian ssr and the ussr as a structure of the unification of the republics in the 91st year accordingly, ukraine, as the legal successor of the ukrainian ssr, received a seat in the un, or rather left this seat, belarus also remained in the un, and russia declared that it is the legal successor of this ussr and

the seat in the un belongs to it, although according to the procedure of the un charter, it should have applied for this application consider and in this way confirm russia's membership in the un and in the un security council, how do you now look at these inconsistencies and are there any motives or grounds to question the russian federation's vote in the un due to the fact that russia did not necessarily pass accession to the un well, she simply declared herself as the rightful successor of this ussr in this organization, actually , it seems to me that all the accents were placed absolutely correctly. this is a really interesting story, and by the way, i think that it was such a serious mistake of russian diplomacy, again, by russian lawyers who they didn't think, you know, they didn't

really want to take everything that was soviet, including the place of the soviet union in the security council and the un, as soon as possible, so the main right is in the security council, that is and for this purpose some red lines were transferred, uh, well, covered like a rag, uh, the so-called almaty declaration, which was signed in december, it seems, on december 21, by the velmats of the cis countries, there was a point in this uh declaration that uh, the cis country well, they recognize russia as the successor of the soviet union, but first of all, this means that everything looks legal

. they will say that de jure ukraine was not a member of the cis. therefore, the signature under the latin declaration is the signature of kravchuk, and by the way, ukrainian diplomats at the time, and in particular the late anton buteyko, who was then the legal adviser of the ministry of foreign affairs then he became the first deputy minister of ukraine, he is one of the famous ukrainian diplomats, he was categorically against it, as far as i remember, as some witnesses say, he literally held kravchuk's hand and tried to make him, er, hmm, well, he talked about having him sign this customs players or at least he didn't do it with some discussions there they didn't listen well then, you know, there was such a political expediency and everyone was and that yeltsin is such a good russia and the most important thing is that we, uh, peacefully separated and then, there will be russia

instead of the soviet union, no one i didn't think about the possible consequences. by the way, the situation was exactly the same during the signing of the budapest memorandum. well, there was also pressure from the united states, er, such positive pressure, because everyone was afraid of leaving er, ukraine, the remains of nuclear weapons, and ukraine technically, she could not use and control it, the americans were very afraid, they lived that it could have some very unpredictable consequences, so we just wasted our hands, but in almaty, it was just pressure from russia and a plus, well, such a good will from on the part of ukraine and the cis, this is what it is, once again returning to the history of the signing of this declaration , friends, for example, they did not sign it and it would be possible to use it, let’s say 10 years ago, and there were such ideas or proposals

to be called into question. this declaration became the basis of yeltsin's well-known letter to the general education of the un at the end of december, it was a couple of days before the new year at the end of december 1991, when he wrote it to the then secretary of the un that look, this was the decision in almaty and all cis countries he does not object to russia becoming a continuation of the soviet union, the united nations he all breathed a sigh of relief