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on the youtube channel history for adults e p olezhe, i am a fan of your channel and follow your stories. they are very interesting, very popular, very understandable for our viewers, and i invited you so that we could talk about modern russian historical myths and we will start with what the modern russian historical myth about ukraine, as they say, smokes you the most, please but they all feed starting from the main myth about one people because it is a myth that was created in russian historiography somewhere at the beginning of the 19th century and later he outgrew it in later russian historiography and the history of minds about a three-unit nation that in principle existed even from the soviet union, but now they have returned to an older work about the administration of the people, you know, i am interested in russia more or less lived for itself with such a normal life
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, she attacked georgia for a long time. somewhere she still got out somewhere, well, of course, there were conflicts in the chechen wars, were there not conflicts, wars or not, uh, there in transnistria at the beginning after the collapse of the soviet union, and then suddenly they somehow they went crazy with these and their stupid actions regarding ukraine and so that it ended in a war. in your opinion, what kind of fuse was removed, so very important that the russians. that's how it flattened and broke precisely the current situation that you see here. what you see here is possible historically and politically the basis of this war and this madness and putin's and in general russian, well, you yourself just said that they lived normally, but there was a war in transnistria in abkhazia, in georgia, well, that's how they lived normally. that is, they were flattened. i.e. in fact, i understand that they perceived the collapse of the soviet union for a certain time as criticism , some formality as a temporary phenomenon that in fact,
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well, the sphere of influence remains with them, if we remember there in the history of the 90s, that is, constant er, constant moments of conflict in crimea. that is there , pro-russian movements were constantly trying to do something , ukraine turned a blind eye to it all, er, we will also remember that, that is, it did not happen at one moment, it happened, well, the further we er, as ukraine, as nations, moved away from them, from this imaginary mythical cis and the fact that this is just a formality - just for the soviet union, the more it worried them . the maidan and the currents of yanukovych is one of the main myths that putin began to
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reproduce and voice and experience, this is the myth that lenin created ukraine. and it is difficult to say that it is modern because it is not a modern ukraine, we will talk about it later, we will talk about those lands that were taken from the ukrainian people's republic when it became the ukrainian-soviet socialist republic, the lands that ukraine allegedly received , again, well, a gift, but it's not a gift at all. that's why we say that putin is obviously talking about ukraine as it is now, and what exactly this ukraine is a product of vladimir lenin's creation is that vladimir lenin went to ukraine because he said that without ukrainian grain the revolution would not be able to survive, they understood that maybe they are two different countries, and here it is necessary to explain to people very simply and clearly why is putin wrong in this story? why did he cling to lenin at all? and how then? well, understand. and what happened to lenin then, ukraine or not ukraine , please? these are the thesis. it seems to me that in some of the white emigrant literature, it was later that it
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was not. ukraine, and here the liner took over and created a separate ukrainian state. well, of course, they are crazy . if he could, he would not have created any ukrainian state. and how am i joking that he created not one but two ukraines because he first created the ukrainian people's republic? as and putin's hybrid wars, that is, in fact, putin took a lot from lenin when he did not want a direct invasion, that is, he took a lot from lenin , who said that we are not there. by the ukrainian bourgeoisie, and we will only support the hot ones, this is not verbatim, but almost a verbatim quote from the people's commissar of foreign affairs of soviet russia, that is, they invaded ukraine under the guise of what it was not. they first a-and then uh well, they did not create fake eyes ukrainian states that is, the first time they created the ukrainian people
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's republic, well, that is, we had the statehood of the ukrainian people's republic, which was invented by the ukrainians themselves, but in order to defeat this ukraine, they created a fake ukrainian people's republic, rada, and then this ukrainian socialist soviet republic, so why did white emigrant literature appear the statement that there was no ukraine a-a this is to create members, well, this is, well , another argument that putin actually repeats. let's back off a little, then, because i i understand, well, a little back in history, for many people, you know, they don’t really understand. and what was there from ukraine? we won’t do such extensive historical tours there very briefly, but very briefly we need to make people understand what the russian empire was like before there was this. well, now we don't even take these signed articles by khmelnytsky , who signed these with botulinum, allegedly the act of reunification, there was no act to commit, at least they don't show it to the russians. he has
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this act in the kremlin. well, but they don't show it to us it means that something is unclean there, but that people simply understood that there was still a state in ukraine within certain limits in a certain form, because someone thinks that it is unknown that there was a wild field there, some uh big meadow, and then russia came there, brought culture and joined its own parts, and then it became good to live as a ukrainian, and the form of this state can be called the cossack state, the hetmanship. borders, it existed, what was it? please, you are talking about the cossack state, well, 16 it was called the hetmanship, that is, it was such a military democracy with er, actually. well, it seems
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that within its borders, within its territories, it is a democratic entity that is completely different from itself, which was the hetmanship. that is, where the hetman’s elected positions were elected, the elected positions of the entire seniority, where there was a division into military civil power and judicial power, well, in the end it it was a beautiful state formation of the modern early modern era, unfortunately, it did not last long, in the end if we are talking about a wild field, mythical and mythical novorossia in russian , when in 709, after mazepa went over to the side of the swedes to defend the transformation and the liquidation of the hetmanship, which peter i had already planned, went over to the side of the swedish king charles 12, who promised ukraine independence, so peter went and took revenge and destroyed sich of zaporozhye, because this was the first
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destruction of sich, a terrible, not human quarterings with the exhumation of corpses took place in 709 after the defeat of mazepa, all cossacks of zaporizhzhya sich went south to the crimean khan under subordination. this is how khanate ukraine arose on the territory of the northern and kherson mykolaiv e zaporizhzhia and partly donetsk regions. like stalin as a successor to lenin's cause why because stalin is also called a person in the kremlin nowadays who owes him something we are ukrainians because we have this ukraine and in the borders of which it is now meant that bukovina is in romania. stalin took lviv there and part of halychyna took the poles again, well , as a result of the second world war, they are not as a result of the second world war. well, we should be very
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grateful to the old for what does he mean you gave ukraine the volyn territory of volyn and so on what does he mean he supposedly gave ukraine a large part of the territory i just want to make a remark here to say that when the russian empire collapsed well, so did the austro-hungarian empire and there was a survey back then there was such a referendum on the territory of transcarpathia, do they want to be with czechoslovakia or do they want to be with ukraine, yes , in transcarpathia then, even though it was the longest time they lived in another empire, but at that time they voted for you to be with ukraine what kind of opinion when putin was not there, but here it was the opinion of the people, that is, who was formed at a certain time. it was the 17th year there, but at that time the local population expressed that it would be with ukraine for you, that is, with a large country that did not yet exist at that time, as if because it was a part of the russian empire . did he give it to the austro-hungarian empire? and it was the opinion of the majority of people, but i just read this
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kind of historical reference, but i remembered it well for myself that and why are they now ascribing, again, part of transcarpathia was the hutsul people's republic that established diplomatic relations with the west ukrainian people's republic with hutsul people's republic with the capital of yasiny in the rakhiv district, well, that is, historically. unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, it so happened that the unified transcarpathia more or less fell into the more or less democratic part, that is, they expected. i read maybe somewhere there i was wrong about something. i just remember this moment about this referendum. for some reason, i remembered it so well that it was important to understand that people understood where they wanted to be. well, again, there are pros and cons, but here is this one. this story is about what stalin did so. i would say ukraine and took it away there is also bukovina and galicia, well, well, let's
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start with the fact that stalin recreated the russian empire, unlike benin, that is, stalin. well, it seems that a georgian by nationality chose a russian identity and constantly repeated that he transformed, that is, this soviet union, he transformed into the russian empire with the destruction of the languages of all nations of nationalities with repression against the representatives of other organizations, that is, the main nation in the soviet union became russian, that is why everyone later identified with the soviet union of the soviet union. russia, and this, and this is precisely the merit of stalin, stalin restored from uh, that is, where lenin, nations uh, hmm, had a great meaning, that is, he believed that well, well, about the human eye, he declared that nations have the right to self-determination, although in fact the point is about something else but it was not fashionable to talk about pro-russian chauvinism, he condemned it on the contrary, instead, stalin returned to this russian chauvinism because he understood that
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it was the only thing that could keep this empire, uh, a lot. stalin brought back the lessons of history. well, millions arrested for ukrainian bourgeois nationalism , this is this, this is the way stalin's great love for ukraine was manifested to you, well, but that's how he was . he, like any empire, tried to increase the boundaries of his empire. belarusian or some other, it forcibly bypassed him because for him it was the borders of this great soviet russia aa in the borders of ukraine and belarus . by the fact of molotov-ribbentrop e-e stalin e-e captured przemyśl as well, including at least along
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the sam river e, that is, the border between germany and the soviet union after this joint parade in brest e-e passed e-e in the city of przemyśl in the river syanok well, after the second world war, churchill had an obligation to the polish government . and he tried to the last to defend what the poles should bring to galicia. stalin said for the first time that it was not discussed at all. eh, someone to him did rozvel or the same time i said well, galicia was never russian, and what do you think, he smiled and said, but warsaw was, and so he closed this dispute, well, it was a question of principle for him. although, on the other hand, well, actually, when is the territory of the same the city of kholmbo was a part of the ukrainian people's republic. it was a measure of something. he didn't
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fight for galicia. this one was fundamentally important. it was a strange decision. i don't know. but we are lucky to have what we have, that is, galicia is part of ukraine. what to thank stalin for this, well, let's thank stalin, i don't understand what's the point here, it's just, well , actually, such were the historical circumstances at that time and that's how it turned out, but when we have to remember that if we're even talking about the liberation of part of the territory and what then they were attached to the ukrainian soviet republic at that time. i’m sorry, i’m not that old. i personally went through the process of conquering this territory. fought until the y-th year, at least the actively active phase of the fighting lasted until the 50th year, and now we recently
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had a historical discussion there about the influence of alcohol on culture and the establishment of ukrainian lands there literally the other day and i read what, for example, stalin's front -line 100 grams in the nkvd detachments in the west of ukraine operated until 1948. 100 grams before 1948 were drunk like this. well, this means that these are the stalinist, er, narkom’s so-called 100 grams , which were issued to front-line soldiers during the second world war, so the second world war has already ended a the nkv as a rural soldier who fought against the ukrainian rebel army in the west of ukraine, these 100 grams of front-line soldiers were poured until the 48th year, but now you just said a gram to the front-line soldiers for the russian army. they say russia as it is now, new trends, new symbols, new, sweets, under new brands, let's look at the
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road, we lost all the wars, the column arrived, and he stood up, someone filmed it, yes, and you already went to the internet, it will be devoted to this is our this is raskolsky confectioners and such a simple sincere movement or the wishes of a child, it rolled all over the country . we are not watching, that is, we don’t have it there at all, that is, it is purely folk history and the war, the service arrived, went to the boys, gave a gift and invited him to the park to the patriot there is a first-grader, he is so naive and
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very good i want the boy to do something sincere. the journalists sent the confectioner when they found out. that 's what they did. thank you, it's a gift. i'll just say one turnip. well, first of all, for some reason it seems to me that all russian officials are trying to speak like putin . how did he not have someone squeeze his throat, but something else. you know here, uh, the most terrible thing in this story is that they made the confectioner mean chocolate alyoshenka, because the boy met and escorted the troops who were going to kill children in ukraine, in your opinion, why is this this kind of folk art is being created. as for this special operation, the russians are trying to dress it up in the clothes of the second world war and present themselves as the people of the liberators, please . well, of course, any war turns
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into a myth for them. and in us the same way, that is, any nation er-er mythologizes er-er its war a-and in the russian er-er consciousness, that is, the second world war became a huge myth, where it was not liberators, although, of course, they were not the only ones who fought - well, if it's enough to laugh that is, this is the nation that gave the most collaborators per occupied square kilometer of all the peoples of the world, instead, the myth says something else. that is, it is a war won exclusively by the russian people, of course, without ukrainians, without belarusians, we are already silent about the help of other allies of the british in the americans. the french and all other peoples in general, a-a could a silly myth that turned
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into a contrast to the uh generally accepted in world history uh, something that never again they turned it , we can repeat it and here they repeat it and of course they are lengthening myths and they are trying to connect them they are russia - is it a people or a rabble i recently listened to the speech of one such russian figure who does not like yeltsin and putin, well , he is such a russian imp, he is a very radicalized professor, i don't remember i know his last name, that's enough, he's a supporter of strilkovo, and he's from that front, so to speak , of russian politicians, very, very right-wing figures and they say that the russian people are not a people, they're a mess, they're not capable of anything, they're not capable of winning a war, they're not a normal government do no at all be great so, in your opinion, is russia a people or riots or possible riots in russia itself, please? well, there will be no original russian people, there is no
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such thing as well, what is the russian people? that is, it is an empire, in fact, one of the last empires that -e feeds on enslaved peoples, that is, uh, this easter russian you will get a tatar, well, that is, the main basis of this uh, and the titular nation of the russian federation, the russians, it is also of a very complex origin and what are they like. this is another separate issue, not to mention the stolen name and the rest but this is a huge number of enslaved peoples. that is, dozens of hungry peoples. i recently had a video on the channel about the buryats. i think that we will make more portulians like i was going to, well, that is, tatarstan, but in the end, who is currently dying the most in the war in ukraine with er, not the russians, but the stations of the buryats are the same a-a-a and that's why
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everyone is waiting for this sudden and unexpected collapse of the russian empire, although, er, part of these renewed peoples are already so used to this enslavement that it is not known whether it is really will happen, you know, after the first world war, of course, there was a revolution, well, a revolution and a coup later in the russian federation, but of course we worked very actively there, let’s not dismiss it, and propagandists, revolutionaries, and there was funding for certain of this work, now i understand, it seems to me that what exactly the revolution actually happened spontaneously, that is, there was no funding , it was this russian riot er, disorderly er, and actually er, well, certainly no one wanted to defend er, that is, it happened um, as it happens revolution absolutely for real, and the coup
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was, of course, a coup er with the use of military forces, it just seems to me that now the russian people have reached some er limit of their um their depopulation of such and such anti-development because even the russian brothers there from the time of the end of the russian transfer were all in the second world war. well, of course there were certain signs that characterize them even now. but it seems to me that they have already degenerated completely and it is difficult to understand what happened the reason is this crazy propaganda that poured from all the screens, are these natural processes of mental and moral decay, how do you see it, is it really the reason in putin, who brought his people to such an absolutely plinth plinth level, or he himself that up to this
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plinth level he wanted this and then it was easy for putin with them, as they say on the road well, i do not agree with the fact that they literally leveled this during the reign of putin, that is, i am now researching the occupation of russian galicia 1914. of course, this is probably not to be compared with what they did in working days, or with mariupol, that is, they, but there are a lot of similar things, that is, looting is also introduced, it seems like a dry law, when everyone is allowed to get drunk . the tables are crawling under the tables, continuous thefts, continuous repressions, there was no ukraine, and there cannot be, well, that is, absolutely very similar stories, ah, hmm, and what is happening now, of course, what, no, no, no, putin this is to
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blame for this. that is, it is putin who became such as from he was expected by this society, that is, it actually coincides here. well, what about the time? i am watching these polls of radio svoboda on the streets of peter's moscow about how they treat this special military operation there. it is simply terrible. you really look at the people who look . that he must have received some kind of higher education to dress well and uh and uh that's why they need to be destroyed these ukrainians need to be finished off uh this sounds like this russian so-called intelligentsia well um well why not talk about what i i'm watching i follow their statements, there is a very, very small number of people who would say something offensive, if there are such people, they are usually young people with more or less higher
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education and from regions far from moscow for some reason . well, but from such developed regions there, let's say how it will be in the urals. well, there are still cities there, more or less like that, there are academic institutions, and so on. well, but there are very few such people. well , now, of course, the russians cover themselves with their myths, you know like adama those figs with a piece of paper so as not to show their shame to the whole world, a lot can be said about how their empires appeared and who was interested in it, how it developed, but now we are moving to the soviet era, the times when stalin would redraw the map like this , well redraw these parts -e lands between the republics and here eh hmm kuban eh i remember when ukrainian writers were summoned to moscow and they took part in some events there and there was a meeting with stalin and ukrainian writers were sitting there who later settled in a house in kharkiv, or most of them and one of the writers. i just forgot the last name because i didn’t mention it before
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the program, but i asked stalin, what about the kuban, when will they give us the kuban? hmm, and stalin answered something like well, the kuban is already here, so let it be. why give back and forth? tell me, please, the history of the kuban and what other lands stalin took from ukraine when it became the ukrainian people's republic of the ukrainian people's republic. it's a pity. the myth that kuban was a part of ukraine. in some periods, of course , rostov-on-don was part of the ukrainian people's republic, or rather, the ukrainian state of skoropadsky, and that's actually there. there was a dispute with the don cossacks of krasnov, but where should the border actually be, where should taganrog be, but the swimsuit was never part of ukraine, that is, it was said that kuban was declaring
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independence, the kuban republic was supposed to exist, and it was even discussed that it was possible the kuban republic will be a part of which quadratic district is a part of ukraine, but it was never part of the ukrainian people's republic , ah, ah, ah, actually a new one, if you go there now to the kubanka, so that i do not advise you to do this, then you are probably somewhere else somewhere maybe you will even hear remnants of the ukrainian language, but this is actually some remnants that will be prokonsed somewhere. that is , this is one of the typical regions that were cut off, that is, where did the ukrainian cossacks in the kuban come from? everyone remembers this as another result of deception. to russia, these poor ukrainian cossacks, who performed at the same festival dozens of times and promised him the same rake, they believed, went to fight
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. they were recently given land in the kuban by the dnipro, where they were all resettled in a friendly manner, a huge number at least, well, the process of assimilation began, the process of dissection, which actually has already been completed in recent times, then from kyiv, but including in fact, in the 1930s, stalin was held at the company the same holodomor as in the territory of ukraine. about what, apparently, january, about the fact that the team had enough ukrainian ah-ah-ah, when we talk about cutting borders, then during lenin's stalinist times , the so-called equalization of the borders of the ukrainian soviet republic and the russian federation took place mainly in the direction of the russian federation , that is, when we are talking about the belgorod region, the
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kursk region, the orlov region, that is, the ukrainian ethnic lands there for some reason went to russia. by khrushchev's decision. by the way, it was not khrushchev's personal decision of the supreme council of the rsfsr that crimea was transferred to the ukrainian soviet socialist republic. well, in order for crimea to somehow recover and begin to develop, because the population adds to the residents of the volga region, i don't really they somehow managed to make the crimea agriculturally successful, that's why i want to come there, everyone was shouting that let's do something. well, actually. but is it true that when ukraine received the crimea in order to develop it and spent a lot of energy and resources on it, that in the ukrainian soviet socialist republic then also took away part of the territory, wrote them off to the ussr so that they say this and that and it turned out, please
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uh well, i didn't hear about it well actually exactly well khrushchev in general here is like that again a mythologized story about what khrushchev handed over crimea because khrushchev seemed to be a slob khrushchev was not a slob khrushchev recognized himself as a person of russian identity and repeatedly stated that, well, as much as possible, i am a representative of this soviet people, a soviet person, he himself they believed that khrushchev was actually born in these ethnic lands, the ukrainian courses of hungary, belohorodshchyna, and although he was not a hovel, that is, his wife was ukrainian, this is also a known fact. khrushchev did not have a 54th year no personal power, that is, everything this story is from the crimea
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