body, i think that only economic sanctions can make the ego feel good, thank you for the clarification. olga kosharna, an expert on nuclear energy and nuclear safety, and yana dabyzha, managing the affairs of the executive committee of the energodar city council, contacted us and told us about what is happening now at the gas station and about what to expect from my mother's speech at the radbezion, and now we will pass the floor to olga len, the chronicles of the information war, from her to your attention. congratulations, thank you, lesya andriy well, literally, we will talk about what everyone it's very interesting, so i'm sure you were waiting for this program to find out what russian propagandists say about the explosions in crimea. it's interesting to you. it's interesting

to me. i'll tell more russians - it's also interesting . you won't believe many of them. i opened my laptop today at 5:00 in the morning. i assure you, there is no block on the topic, there is no truth, there is no block, please use sources responsibly , tell me what is happening, you should not suck it out of your finger, you should not exasperate it, as many did yesterday , including me, i repent to you, there is no block, that is, there is no ban on discussing this information, and

there is no such thing so much so that on ort, in no political talk show, they did not talk about the explosions on the ninth of august. and in the news of ort, there was about it, well , somewhere there for 30 seconds in novy ntv on august 9, you will not even find a report about it in the nightingale scabies talked for 10 minutes and everything got stuck, although at first there were attempts to make something scandalous. well, look, now it’s happening, now there’s literally an attack on crimea, here in the sakvy area . but there are enough photos of the people with whom the mosque spoke , so he spoke only about the fact that ukraine continues to inflame the situation, they use this, draw a red line for me, i will cross it let's give the data now, it's only coming in, it's being checked , it's carrying out an attack on crimea, then now all these are red

lines so that a-and there somehow affects russia, it is necessary to hit the peaceful ones, it is necessary to destroy the cities, it is necessary to reach there and when it arrives, i do not accept it at all why are we just in case, they didn't immediately clear the entire decision-making center at the airfield in saki, there was an explosion, eh, and because of it, because of an accidental accident. well, that's because of an ordinary accident. well, that's also good . some people didn't get their bearings right away, so they explained to him that there was and what wasn't there, look. for what purpose, ah, well, judging by everything, i'm sorry, but not the son's strikes on crimea, yes, and that's clear. for what purpose are you destabilization within russia, but sergey, let's go to the official judges, according to everything, they went in. yes, i understand pobegalgorod well ok, let's leave krym to belgorod. for what purpose did the attacks intensify every

day ? operation here you are coming out, you told a lie, i will quote you where you said it was not true, only that every day there are strikes, they are not struck every day, and even once a week, they are not struck, and the statistics can be raised, there were strikes, there were strikes. there was an approved version of events, see in the middle of the day in the vicinity of the village of novopedorovka, several loud noises were heard at once, local residents spoke about it, the ministry of defense has already confirmed it, the explosions of ammunition that were stored in a warehouse, to be exact the exact explosions are related to the detonation, there will be

supplies . cried out in a telegram g every time the red line where are you uh, but after 20 minutes the instructions came and margo signaled on the spot that they believe that they are not flown and sabotage and even a general headache and she was happy to exhale and go to the beach that's how it will be in the future. and they called it "galavatyabrstva". and i offer you the most interesting thing from what they managed to say to the russian propagandist until they finally realized what and how it was there. well, block information of course there is no so everything is not why nothing

exploded there that's how you flew everything and refueled and everything was normal, but now something happened on the one hand. yes, nothing exploded in crimea before the special operation, well, it exploded at other military bases in russia, and how exactly was it connected with the transshipment of ammunition, that is, the point is that well first of all, the military, when it comes to the escalation of the military situation, all this is being intensified, and sorry, no one has canceled the military drill. official source there is no second. everyone is waiting for some kind of clear answer. everyone is waiting for the first result of the investigation. what happened, head of the police? what are you? the ministry of defense is dealing with me in any way. if it's stupid, it's absolutely criminal, it's

generally how to understand. one person died, a few streams of screens. and that's why the same samoyska, and we don't know where it will fly to us, in general, we definitely confused everyone if we wanted to, yes, we managed to do it, if there were any rockets, now litite objects, it's not enough that we would have seen it the number of vacationers who are there because we often see footage of cruise missiles in ukraine, they fly quite loudly and want to be at a low altitude, so yes. the consequence of that is what happened and you want to go back to global events . this is the footage that was shown with biden and with trump. well, actually american american american british coalition she tyr petrah silence

swallowed as if yes and it should yes it was wonderful as if it was and should well then, subsidization or headships the first satellite images were already yesterday the program of the scheme of radio svoboda appeared, plans made by the service labs, pictures of the saka airfield near the village of novofedorivka in the crimea on august 10 and on august 9, approximately 4 hours before the explosions, in the photo you can see that not all russian aircraft survived on august 9, they recorded the damage after the explosions on the mayor or the staff of the flight deck well, in short, as they say, it was soulful in a homely way, but the evening news release of ort already categorically says that even sabotage was not a ruckus, as it is, by this time, the firefighter was already localized at the military airfield novofedorovka in crimea, where, according to our ministry of defense, aviation munitions exploded today,

and although they rushed to kiev to release everything as a result of their impact, and what would indicate shelling or the action of saboteurs, no, as the main version, it is considered to be a violation of fire safety regulations as a result of the incident. one person died nine were injured, 30 people were living in a cabin near the airfield, the time was evacuated to a neighboring village, someone was smoking, someone failed at the airfield, do you understand what is happening, russian propaganda is trying downplay and forget about these explosions in the crimea in general a little more and they will say that the explosion didn't even happen, so, well, smoke happens. and what is it? what is it? everyone has been sleeping on their faces, and for two days almost nothing has been heard about the strikes on the decision-making center. radioactive, whose dust is it ? the entire institute for the study of war explains that the russian federation does not blame ukraine for the strikes on crimea, because this will be another evidence of the ineffectiveness of their air defense systems, as well as in general, defense, as it already happened with the cruiser moscow, we remember that there

was a negative spillover. well also happens a the simultaneity of the explosions at two different objects probably excludes the official russian version of an accidental fire, but it does not exclude the sabotage of a short-range missile attack, the analysts noted that in principle we do not care if the russians fire so effectively at their own aerodromes . what were the russian propagandists talking about these two days, as if to distract themselves from the hubbub at the airfield, while they were talking about how they were going to capture bakhmut mykolaiv, and they dragged on for hours the interview of mykhailo podalyak for the bbc, but the main thing is that they have been talking for the third day about zelensky's call to cancel the possibility of traveling to the eu for russians. look, it's wonderful what zelensky said, first of all, it's not

a coincidence. and there are a lot of american pr people, the best pr people in the team, they are there in kyiv, they said that ok, we are moving the topic of expelling all the russian people, so why don't they want to live in their own country, well, look at the gas chambers burned in crematoriums. here he prepares such a fate for russians. we russian pits are not only russian. and everything is ugly in our multinational country . in fact, we find

ourselves in the same position. the yellow stars of those who are allowed to watch television objects in europe, who are not russian, are not allowed, well, obviously, the process is in full swing, well, this is a strict elision, and so you know, it was about two or three hours after the explosions. and what is the hysteria, russian propagandists have been telling for six months that the united states is waiting for the voice of the naked voice that everything will soon fall apart there and everyone is in general a cap yes and why are you leaning there? what’s more, the majority of russians don’t even try, in fact 70% of veref residents have never traveled abroad even in the neighboring region, some people did not go and it is clear that the russian propagandists themselves live a completely different life than the people to whom they are appeasing

, uh, they have houses in italy, travel well, therefore, there are prospects of banning visas to europe from solovyov for example, in general, a nervous breakdown occurred, look at the toxic kyiv regime infected western politicians in ukrainianization, history and finland are openly following the fascist zelensky, who demands to call to account the entire population of russia, this is a little green philanderer, here is ukrainian nationalism, he is already shouting that all the geese and pigs they are guilty of not giving a visa to anyone, that the best among us russians is called all pigs , they enjoy the fact that they are his adviser tells the bastards asha and working on the provocateur you from the rain talks about how they enjoy themselves ukrainians look at the corpses

of russians the images that we depict that are russian pigs we are not people for them, as we are very dogs yes, that's not what they called us well solovyov learned a new word well almsgiving or something russian tv pretends as if nothing special happened in crimea, the deep russian people understood everything correctly, see последняя мамул, мамулечка, let's get out of here, quietly, quietly, and because it's necessary, yes, it's necessary to go, there 's no such thing

what a little mommy, we have a house, your wooden house won't do anything for us, this is a traffic jam on the federal highway. it's a traffic jam. when i get up, i just put my ass in. well, we hear that we left late. we left simferopol at 11. we were standing behind simferopol , already on the highway, where they said 200 cm in a straight line

. in artists are looking at simferopol and asked to open the trunk. yes, we must run and drive along the federal highway, because the house will not save us. today we will meet. what is the start of our fourth hour of the marathon? we announced to you that we will talk about how the identification of the dead for the dead in buchi, recently , fifteen people were buried there who could not be identified, who is this, what is this story about

how this process of identification takes place, how relatives go through a-a with photos of their own whose relatives they are looking for. they can’t find them. they hope to the last that they are still among the living and not among the dead, as they are sometimes identified only by the leg left by a relative. in this story, they are creepy, by the way. the bbc made a documentary, a british tv channel. has already come out in english and it seems that it is also in ukrainian, eh, about how, eh, how the relatives actually searched for eight eh, members of the territorial defense who died, and what happened to these religious people, honestly, i don’t i watched this film and it seems that i may not find the strength to watch it, even if i am a journalist, because bucha is a

painful city for me, since i have lived there for the last six years and i chose this city for life for a reason, it seemed very european to me, i wanted to that the rest of the cities of ukraine, the towns, would be like bucha somewhere, i hope that it will be possible to return the slogan to bucha, the city of dreams, that it will be possible to return it to tumria in bucha, and that peaceful life well, but for now this is a painful process and the trauma that has been caused uh, the occupiers she is still bloody and still hurts yevhen spirin, editor-in- chief of the babeli publication, a volunteer who is now helping to identify the bodies of people in the kyiv region,

we are in touch with yevhen, we congratulate yevhen. good morning. still in the process and all that this process is painful, people are still looking for their relatives, about 50 bodies that have not been taken away and not buried, well, but to be more precise , it was three days ago, because uh, the day before yesterday, there were first burials and we even buried 15 people who are not even known. or to be more precise , 14 and one is known, but there are people who, for example, were not taken away because we do not know where their relatives are and we were not looking for them, and for some reason it happened, uh, among them, for example, there is one russian military man who i didn't count. how do i emphasize this? it's still in the fridge. i think he'll go home to his native house, but

when and how will it be? well, we don't know yet, but this week we have to finish the identification and if we can transfer from the list is not a-a those in the know list of those in the know so it will have to be done by the end of the week, at least we have decided that way and uh, the burials will also continue, when and how, i can't say yet because this is confidential information, the dead don't hurt, and it hurts those who are left without their relatives and these stories i followed the facebook page of the journalist sofia kochmar tymoshenko, who actually worked as a local producer for the bbc service, which filmed a documentary here, and these stories are sometimes such that the hair stands on end in the literal sense of the word as you coped with this with this grief and pain with which

relatives came to you to find their relatives who may have already died. yes, we work together with sofia and still, uh, she also helps with the tables that we have, the point is that many of the bodies that were there were transported to different bodies in the region. that 's why we had to collect them back . then really well let's say so work in the refrigerator or putting on body bags is much easier than hearing what relatives say about the issue somehow coped no way coped no one copes with it well, i don't know how to

answer this question i understand you i'm just i'm just reading the news about bucha and i feel creepy but to be there and to be precisely in that epicenter of grief, well, it is even more difficult, these stories that you hear, you somehow talk about them, i don’t know if they stay with you, you keep them, in fact, we are adults and we are not russians, so uh, always who is there, for example, a dna test, or relatives always work there, psychologists who, hmm, talk to a person, if we had a woman there who wanted to take a dna test, but she is not a direct relative, let's say she has a third cousin, for example, a third cousin , but she is not gives guarantees that the dna base and uh well , what is nastya's dna, what is the result, but she was

very stubborn because she was the only person close to her, so she persuaded them to take a sample from her, and of course psychologists worked with her because at some point she started to cry, well, that's normal o-o-o c the plan is normal. as a protective reaction of the body, that 's why we have psychologists who are always with us and always talk to people, and in general, how many people remain if the boats go missing, is there an understanding, or all those who have been found do not say it. no, we found it, it seems... i'm just very afraid to pray ah, but i know that until the day before yesterday there were 50 unrecognized people for sure. that is, it is those identified who were not taken away. that is, it is conditional. there are a little more than 50 people that we have, but 15 of them, i say that already buried and i know that they will be executed in the coming days

i will also explain why, because they were once again in different conditions, that's why we made such a system, because i think it's the first one to do it. in general, we just hide them according to the territorial principle. for example, if we had them in boyarka in the morgue, the first batch was buried from boyarka, and the next one will be people who were in the vyshgorod sea and the vyshgorod community . i think that we still have a dna database, we took all the samples from all the bodies, and if someone is found from relatives or if here well someone will find there will contact us, we always have this database, we can compare, and then, for example, we either rebury or simply make a new plate with the surname, patronymic, because now they are by numbers there body number such and such body number such and

such we we don't know who these people are, what's more, they are people whose gender it is impossible to even determine, because the sex will be called yes, because they are very charred, so we don't know if it is a man, a woman, how old could he be , and so on, there are also such bodies, and they are also not described. if you may ask about it well, ours is our personal good friend, he is a former neighbor, we know that he was simply shot in the chest by soldiers in cold blood for no reason when he went to collect water in his yard, and i understand that there are a lot of such stories and according to what the majority of people died from, this is the majority - these are people who were executed, and we say somewhere about two-thirds, that is, about 80, more than 80%, these are

tortured and executed, shot in our country, approximately 60x40, and these are men, women, that is, 60% of men , because in some moment we think that it was somewhere after march 7, they started doing this because of the formation of taking out men and beating them, and another category of people and who was killed. for example, when they were on the street, the japanese were going for water or something else. that is, they were killed on the street, and the third category is people who died from shrapnel or shelling. well, someone was brought in at home, someone was killed in the basement, and we also know of at least three prisons where people were tortured because they, well, the occupiers thought that it was either atoshniks or a part of the volunteer contract people or there are people for example in

we have a body with a police badge, that's why we were able to identify it very quickly. also, we have three, um, dry fighters, they died somewhere on february 26, or they entered into a fight with the occupiers, and we know they had badges, and it was also easy to identify them. but there were just men who were suspected of something there or simply killed because they killed everyone. that's all. that's why 80% of all the dead are killed, shot, tortured, so yevgeny, are there any scary and painful stories when people come in search of their relatives among the dead, and these relatives of theirs turn out to be alive, at least one such story, we have a story

going on if, for example, there are no bodies and no dna database, then we suspect that these people may be in captivity, but as far as i'm concerned, i don't want to be mistaken i know about 12 there, for sure, and this is one group, that is, people were deported en masse there through belarus to russia, and i think to myself that they did it in order to create an exchange fund later , and people also have hope, uh, i don’t know the stories when someone remained alive, but unfortunately for me it was cut short connection among such stories, i have the story of my friend's husband who was kidnapped, but even then she saw him in some plot of propagandists and did not lose hope and in the end he was returned

, and this is the happy story from which i once said that people cry from happiness, i really cried from happiness and now i understand how it is, er, i, well, we are literally already running out of our hour, there is a minute left , actually, it was a production. about the occupation about what they saw na his own eyes about how a father with photos of his daughter near the morgue tells how beautiful she is and all that is left of his daughter is her leg and he and he need someone who would listen to tell him what a daughter was, she was beautiful, she was smart - and so that this memory of her remains,

someone exhibited pictures from 40 there in the fifth or sixth year about how the members of the former nspg of this national stylistic party of hitler's germany how after the war they were forced to watch footage of people who were killed from abroad are in debt in concentration camps and this is what is a good prevention for russians after putin. thank you , uh. that's it. that's it, we'll finish our fourth hour, we'll prepare for the fifth hour of the marathon, and just now the release