a question for mr. yury, gentlemen, yuriy, come on, i'm sorry, i'm sorry, my sound was interrupted and i'm not quite. if you repeat the question briefly, are ukrainians ready to revise their attitude to history in order to condemn communism and to actually recognize, let's say, like estonians or lithuanians about the fact that the soviet union was for ukrainians rather an occupation and not a liberation. you know the question of history. regardless of the war, regardless of the fact that our soldiers are dying today. despite the fact that so many people are forced today to be abroad or you know to live in anticipation of missile strikes. i believe that the question of history and not only the communist history of ukraine or the part of it under the soviet union. and the question of history is a key question

. at the state level, writing the history of ukraine, propagating the history of ukraine, killing myths, starting with the primitive tribes and ending, excuse me, in 2021, when we all the nation did not want to believe in what could to start such a large-scale war, and this is our serious problem, because until we have our own properly written propaganda, well-paid teachers, well-studied history by every child, we will have similar wars with the russians with you all the time, they are not fighting with us for territory, even though it ends with them important in order to

regain some geopolitical status, they are fighting today for the fact that in 30 years, a nation began to form in ukraine, which began to learn that there is a separate ukrainian history, there is a history of struggle of the ukrainian people for their independence and they want to kill it. you remember all these propagandist talk shows, what they always built on, historical facts and the destruction of ukrainians as a subject, these three issues were key for them, even when they invented the motivation for consumers in russia, why do we need a so-called special operation, which is a war? they even thought that the nazis are here, that is, the nazis are here

from bandera, that they need ukrainians, those ukrainians who lived in the civil union and applauded at the 27th congress of the communist party, they are waiting for them, they want shcherbytsky to go to moscow with some bows, they want to have the russian empire here and monuments to catherine ii in odessa, because this is history for them, and until we know this history and this history it will not be sacred for us from a bud, a child from a kindergarten, talking about heroes, about our achievements, about our defeats, so until we do this, we must understand that we will be attacked, we will be killed, because for them these are the key issues of their existence

the russian empire can be revived. look at these russian propagandists, singers, and putin himself, who chose the 22nd year for the war for a reason, because the centenary of the founding of the soviet union will be celebrated in moscow. uh, i can't even remember their last names, they are already starting to sing how we live well in the soviet union for them. that's what's important , they are fighting for this. and we are fighting for living in an independent state. very briefly, your opinion about er such a lady that she teaches only because she has never taught anything, this is firstly and

secondly russian history er, in fact, it’s all about this ron because russia didn’t have its own history, took ukrainian history and attributed it to myself i’ve been around for a long time said that russia, i came to you monetika, which in fact pasted its asian mormyshka in the ukrainian passport, let me remind you that with what these 17th- century france was squatting, i boiled the russian nadeete in the mongol well, then they called the tatars , it broke down in the mind of the horde, we simply did not we know ours only mine was simply distorted by russia itself, because it came out, you remember, it was written as if totalitarian regimes were valued, the one who rules today rules the past, that is, he rules the past, is right or wants to rule the future, that's why russia has no history of its own . at least about the fact that in my native mykolaiv oblast there is a vitovsky district, now it was a factory, which was founded by a princely saint at the end of the 14th century, and that is already the same

ochakiv, in which russia is also said to be the city of a narrow the glories were taken out after the militovka and we didn't know this, they come to my video mykolaiv, a member of the mykolaiv school, that's why we need to return to our own history and take away from russia what they don't belong to. well, in the end, history repeats itself, it repeats itself once on the first day luftsa, yes, in fact, today's russian history repeats german history, only in this caricatured form, you know. well , look at lenin rysunstal, which was decommunized in germany due to her films, and look at mikhalkova. look at olympics i.e. in berlin 36th look at the olympics in sochi where russia in order to win uhh changed urine tubes look at what actually happened in germany i say to a cultural expert or you want to talk in a technological aspect when they did faud-2 and modern modern technology and look at russia,

which wants its people to use iranian drones that the iranians copied from ancient american drones. here is the answer to your question. and totolitiz should be deserved not only as a result of defeat of the russian war, and even as a result of the fact that there is a european one. in fact, the whole decision is a decision of the osce . in principle, i am a declaration about european social and territorialism, where nazism and, er, communism are put on the same shelf . look at the crimes of the russians, compare them with the nazis and tulle, you will not see any difference. thank you, gentlemen, for the conversation. and this was yury podorozhnyi, a political technologist and expert of the public organization ukrainian center for social development , and valery dymov, a political expert, director of the center social and information technology forum well, so far, yes, communism has not been condemned, and

there are many students somewhere abroad who say that communism lived so well under communism that the truth is that they did not live under communism and and even when we lived under communism , their parents didn't live either and didn't fully experience all the charms of this wonderful regime, if only ukrainian literature, which was banned in ukraine for a long time until ukraine became independent, was well translated. were studied somewhere abroad well, let's say the tigrolovs of bagryany or tsangentsemanskyi, i think that they would look at that communism in a different way. mu 200 kts yes, but in fact it is very utopia absolutely so let's not even waste time on this to better introduce our next interlocutors, these are two people's deputies yaroslav zhylyznyak from the voice oleg

hunda from the people's ears eh, we welcome you, gentlemen, to welcome to our broadcast. by the way, lesya and andriy , the previous conversation was very interesting, and you correctly noted that communism was actually condemned in 1991, it turned out that the world in 1990-1991 was not ready for the defeat of the soviet empire in the cold war, and as a result, taking into account their lack of readiness, their lack of readiness, it is their responsibility, we have this war now due to the fact that they did not condemn it there and did not do anything new there, including because we are also still ready to the end to stand in for all of this, a complicated story since we understand that stalin was one of the allies and the yalta conference, where roosevelt, stalin, and churchill sat next to each other, it fixed

the state of affairs that was, but it was fixed so that the war actually ended with the occupation of a large part of europe and european rights that actually lost their complete independence a- and from the baltic countries that completely lost it to the countries that had to have puppet regimes that will try to overthrow were suppressed militarily, for example in hungary or czechoslovakia, we are like that it's true and unfortunately it's also postponed, conditionally speaking, it was a story that later manifested itself in the 80s tsimbala my opinion is yes 45-46 years i'm talking about 90 91 and taking into account their lack of readiness, they gave the russian empire and the soviet empire the opportunity to recover and engage in expansion again, because until then , as long as this empire exists, it will always be a threat to the post-soviet world, to the surrounding neighboring countries, and to the whole

world because of this, but a very interesting event is happening now that we have communication with our western partners and we are talking, they no longer have the same relationship with the soviet-russian empire as it was in 991, they now understand that simply by ending this war it cannot end everything, in the end the empire must be completely disintegrated so that it does not recover and now already appropriate actions are taking place for this eh in the council plans to extend the martial law and mobilization in ukraine for what period was it in general what is happening with the mobilization company in particular, gentlemen, let's comment on it e p yaroslav you will start for sure well, as far as you know, the war is still going on in our country, unfortunately, we have not won yet, although we are active at home until then, i hope, er, the russian army will be more active in smoking at

its airports and other military facilities. but we have a great time on august 23 of this year martial law is in effect, accordingly, it is continued by the decree of the president, which is then approved by the parliament, and accordingly, there is a convincing feeling that in the coming days , mr. president will sign such a decree and introduce it to the parliament. and we, within a fairly quick time, we of course, we also support the extension of martial law until the term of martial law, which is extended for a certain number of days, he asked, it cannot be extended by wording until our victory, unfortunately, this is how the law is formed, and the next decree is also attached - this is a mobilization decree, which is also introduced the nsdc of ivan by the president and, accordingly, will also be supported by the ukrainian parliament, so in the coming days we expect

a continuation unfortunately for the martial law, i would like it to be the last time, then we celebrated and approved the day of our victory but nevertheless martial law will be extended for how long we do not yet know last time it was for 90 days well there are probably certain prerequisites that it will be approximately the same period or even longer well again this is the decision of the president and the military leadership i supported any term that will be introduced in the ukrainian parliament . and the appeals are wonderful, but at the same time we have a law banning the import of russian books, and it is ukraine that is at war with russia, not some other countries, and still under

this law there is still no signature of the very volodymyr zelenskyi, why is he delaying, what is the reason, despite all the institutions, please be kind to me the question is about the books, well, the book is being written in such a way that it will not be a question, especially since we will be voting on a resolution on sanctions, which actually include the purchase of any products from the country of origin of russia federation, therefore, there should be no objections or comments here, it will not be fashionable, it cannot be, it will take place regarding the war, hm, regarding the state of war, for me, this is a technical issue, uh, without affecting anything until then, it shows us here military actions until at that time until well, mother, well,

our territories and our people were not won back to the countries, to the borders of the year 91, it will vote, well, one thing. unanimously in 5 minutes and there will be no questions, how long will it take if it depends only on us, that's a big eh share of responsibility for the time of war is borne by our western partners. that is, we are now actually fighting with western weapons , depending on how quickly and on time, in what volumes, military equipment and weapons are delivered to ukraine by our western partners. vote very often and very much if they provide in the amount that ukraine needs already today and now, then the war will remain and will end for independence, the first phase of the stage has already started this year

interviews with candidates for the position of members of the higher e-e council of justice and in general, in your opinion, how do these competitions take place, in your assessment, are they sufficiently transparent e-e, and on the other hand, in your opinion, e, what should we expect precisely at the e level of the fight against corruption anti-corruption cases since we now already have a specialized head of the specialized prosecutor's office, we have a functioning new anti-corruption court, what do you have to wait for yaroslav, then oleg, yes, this is really happening in our country, this is happening because of that that again, not at the next tribal meeting, we will have the election of two members from the parliament. what about the council of justice? i wish all honest candidates victory. and if everything goes well , i am sure that the parliament will appoint them, whether we want it or not, no matter what did mr.

tatarov or anyone there now try to put beams to fill the purpose of the entire vertical of the anti-corruption structure and then the judicial structure, this is the number one issue for our international partners because, taking into account the dependence now on the support of international partners and this dependence on the issue is strong because we do not have enough money and will not have enough, and we need to find approximately 5 billion every month. this will happen constantly, so i am sure that the issue of anti-grace, anti-corruption judicial reform will move as quickly as possible, including if certain maps are needed personnel rotation, for example in the office of the president, then these people will leave their positions quickly enough if there is such a requirement in order not to hinder the process in

these areas regarding publicity and transparency we have been having a discussion in the faction chat for the second day about the candidates, who is better and who is worse, moreover, today there will be a hearing of the candidates for the factions , accordingly, it can be said that the process is quite transparent and democratic and everything will be finally decided by the hall and not only a servant of the people, but with the voice of the motherland, eat something else. this will be the decision of the parliament and all the deputies who are in the blue hall, well , more democratic procedures. in general, corruption during martial law should be equated to treason, it is actually if you work and corruption is to weaken the state, if

you engage in corruption, you steal money from our military in our state during war, it is actually weakening the state and working for the benefit the enemy, respectively, and all and all prison terms and all decisions related to corruption at this time should be equated to treason. there is no other way. zaporizhzhia together with maksym buzhansky and zbuzhansky and they talked about the ukrainian culture there and so on and the fight against russian fakes and propaganda. the background is quite uh-huh, it's a

strange choice. i understand that all people change, so you have to give chances and so on and so on, but eh hmm, i don't know. i'm left with a question, it hangs in the air in many people. such a controversial fellow traveler i don't know your comment on such trips to the regions. oleksa says right away. and then i parted . i'm begging you, but for example, i'll have to protect a colleague. look, i'm in general. it will be very good for you, that's an excuse. on the contrary, i do n't see anything bad in this. look. well, i'm just i am from the city of mariupol and i remember when we once had a discussion yes, including in the ukrainian parliament unfortunately for the language of teaching, it

was easier for me to say that dear citizens, and i studied in russian all my life in mariupol and in school and then in the lyceum and i think it's completely stupid and now everything russian should be cleaned as much as possible. this is me as a person from the donbass from mariupol who grew up in a family and with friends and studied at school. i had a separate subject russian language and russian literature, how confident is mr. tkachenko, who still confidently believes that bulgakov is a normal , er, er, creator of literature now , unfortunately or fortunately, and including the fact that max buzhansky must be reported for this pro-russian the audience that everything is russian that we have yes, it is necessary to burn it to a fixed e-e ukraine and then we will figure out whether a normal rich man is or not, but you asked about literature, this is a great question, look,

there is no economic logic to leave the russian translation. anyone who wants can download a russian book in electronic format. and our publishing houses must be supported. we have there is a unique thing that does not have its own unique language that is spoken by tens of millions of people all over the world, not only in ukraine, and who can consume our product. therefore, everything that is possible is russian, here i am again a man from mariupol, i'm telling you, forbid the hell out of everything, so that he doesn't have it at all, then we'll see who was good and who was bad, and now, while there's a moment, we have to do it, if mr. kochenka from panduzhan came with something like this narrative, it will go over with the russian audience much better than anything else more uh, ukrainian-speaking ukraine , colleagues are determined, if he has such a narrative, it is just now very, very unprofitable, even for his own safety, to pronounce some pro-russian

standards in telegram. he has enough of these trolls jerks, uh, russian bloggers, who are there uh, if it works now, it’s great, russian jerks, yes, but there are enough of their own jerks too, and what’s more, they want us to hear them and want their rights, as they think they are, to be respected mr. oleg, surprise you, you say that you will surprise us, we will be surprised by what we hear, tell me, look, first of all, i will remind you that max buzhansky, back in march, he apologized and said publicly that he would change his positions until february 24 was 100% wrong."

i approach this from the point of view of efficiency at a time when there is a question of our statehood , the existence of our people, our state. we must evaluate any tool first of all from the point of view of effectiveness, whether it is effective or not , how effective it is if we can use it for in order to preserve our statehood, we need to use it, and here i have many questions, for example, questions about collaborators well, i will not surprise you, for sure, max buzhansky, he is most likely no, not collaboration regarding the fact that the factions, but max is not a collaborator - i know that for sure, he is helping there, he must be wrong, he doesn't have to do anything else

. and i have a question for our special services, listen to these collaborators of special agencies there were quite a lot of prosecutors in the authorities, even i am sure that the verkhovna rada also has them. why didn't i catch one in six months? and how is this work and we are talking about maksom buzhanske here? excuse me, this is inappropriate and the second question is the ministry of culture. for the last year i have been taking care of the information field, i am watching how it is happening and i see how we are losing the attention of old europe to ukraine on the eve of big problems they have with the economy and society on the eve of winter and this is primarily the responsibility of the minister and i do not see anything being done in order to return attention and this issue needs to be resolved urgently, and we are paying attention to tkachenko's trip with buzhansky to zaporizhzhia

, something else needs to be paid attention to, it is more important, you know, i would not devalue one thing because something else it does not work, parallel processes, this is a big mistake , there are always discussions in ukraine about what, let's not talk about the language, we will talk about the fact that people need to be fed, so people can be, or we will not talk about the names of the streets, and we will talk about the fact that these streets were equal it must go all at the same time otherwise otherwise the streets will be equal and the other country is small remark you are wrong there is a primary task without any nothing will happen and there are additional ones if we do not fulfill the primary ones then we will sneeze at the additional ones and even if they are fulfilled, that is, you have to focus on what is absolutely necessary and only then decide on the rest , thank you, well, we are actually talking about priority, what is priority in culture, or is culture priority, this is always a debatable question, especially during wartime, we know

churchill's answer 40 in the 40th year or so. let's not quote like that, let's say very briefly, we plan to increase defense spending to uah 270 billion. what are the plans for replenishment, or will this a tax on e.g. foreign exchange transactions at 10% is it er or will there be any other sources of yaroslav yes yes really at the next plenary session they want to vote on an increase of 270 billion in the expenditure part of the budget for let's be frank er 269 of them this is true military expenditures, the majority of these are not recruitments or the ministry of internal affairs in terms of the national guard or the sbu, counterintelligence, etc. and as

compensators for the specified, but to emphasize the explanatory notes, which, frankly speaking, has enough no legal significance, this is internal borrowing with internal borrowing is not the best situation, we have about 40 billion for the entire time we borrowed 110c from military bonds from them, primary dealers, i.e. banks, and they are already clogged due to their regulations, i will not purchase so much as regards the question e another internal res is the printing of hryvnias, the printing of hryvnias is bad. why can you see, could you see the location of the exchanger on the scoreboard now? but nevertheless, money needs to be found and do you think the parliament supports this decision because military expenditures are the largest, whether the levy will be introduced or not, now there is a discussion a-a-a i

do not yet see the potential in the parliament to support this decision, oleg, and regarding the import tax, this is not because the primary task of this tax is not in order to fill the budget , even if the ministry of internal affairs is also there, because the filling will not be so significant that anything will be significantly affected, first of all, it is in order to reduce the amount of imports for ukraine and, accordingly, so that ukraine does not lose its gold and foreign exchange reserve, here is what it is for it is needed. but in order to do this, many actions need to be taken there, and it is not limited to this only in terms of expenses. we will finance the defense. we will finance the wartime until the end of the war. it is possible only by printing money. therefore, if we receive the appropriate currency support from the west chests, in this way we will be able to keep the hryvnia exchange rate in line

with inflation, it will not affect in any way, it will compensate for the lack of funds received if we had a peaceful time and that is why i would advise people who are accepted there regarding the economy regarding financing regarding the hryvnia to look not at how the budget is filled or hryvnias are printed, but look first of all at how aid, loans and grants are received support from western countries to ukraine if we are scheduled to receive in the near future for the second half of the year somewhere around 16 billion e.e. of aid there in the form of loans or simply aid from western countries billions of dollars of this, in principle, they will arrive this is, in principle, enough to support the hryvnia exchange rate more or less as stable and accordingly, we will interrupt you, gentlemen, because we already have uh, uh, uh, uh, news with angelica seasonal, which is next, thank you