read, we are checking this information for now, but less so purely technologically, will it be difficult for the occupiers to switch the power generation of the zs to the occupied crimea here without a power line, it is impossible to do it, you understand it perfectly well, in principle, to crush it, no, no, it is a great task for the ukrainian of the armed forces, that's why i think that there are no big problems. i'm more concerned about the position of mr. puterish, which means that the representative's father also means, that is, today there will be a meeting of the un at 3 o'clock. at three o'clock i don't know at what time well, probably according to our time and washington time at 10:00 so um, i would say that such a position is what... how did you

say that it's like that and both sides should stop shelling that type of water, both sides are called for negotiations to deoccupation, then this position is useless, you understand, a competent position and extremely dangerous, that is, in fact, the un secretary is pouring water into putin's mill, that is, he should call for the immediate withdrawal of troops from the occupied nuclear plant where they created i had a man-made threat of a huge disaster, i can already say with almost 100% certainty that such things can only be said 100% by an agent of the russian special services , that is, in essence, mr. guterish has lit up if he will confirm this of the un assembly that he

is completely under uh, this will confirm that he is an agent of the special service of the russian federation, because a responsible person cannot talk about such things, that uh, both sides are guilty when uh, russia basically started this war, captured the station, shelled the station creates all security problems, all security problems, because before this war there were no problems with nuclear energy, and russia was the first in the world to do this, there are huge risks if the hotel is under the control of the hotel, it means that such a position must be expressed urgently conduct an investigation, and it can be said that with a huge, with a huge probability that he took money for such a big statement. is he already an old agent of the agents of the russian special services, that is, of the

russian federation, because, well, normally understand, a person cannot say such a thing, we are powering a nuclear power plant, well , that is, as far as i understand, in order for it to work in regular mode, it is necessary to supply electricity to it, it generates something by itself, and in the end there are ways to remove the already generated energy er-er there further and here er- hmm, obviously there are several ways of supplying electricity to the nuclear power plant, referring to the state inspectorate for nuclear regulation, reported that ukraine has restored the backup power supply line of the zaporizhzhia npp captured by russian troops, which was previously connected to the power system by only one line out of the four main ones, that is, the security situation at the u.s.e. now nothing threatens except, of course , rockets fly over the reactors. but the blackout

is already a more or less clear moment. the threat remained because, er, war criminals , terrorists, are at this station, they took essentially all the personnel of this station hostage, they placed mines there, that is, some security objects were fired at this station, and therefore er to say that security will not be threatened completely without anything, only in one case, when they will not be there, then they existed at a nuclear power plant - this is a very dangerous story because cooling is needed in order to have cooling, electricity is needed and so on and so on what is a backup line this will help safety not quite so

, because in the case of cold e-e in the shutdown of operating e-e reactors, the risks of explosions are reduced. with problems, they decrease by an order of magnitude, you understand , that’s why it’s very important today, uh, it seems to me that it ’s just that the state commission for nuclear regulation and even the energy companies gave the command, they gave the command, and the maga also removed this command, confirmed for a cold stop at the operating units. this is very important, mr. volodymyr nuch we understand that the history of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is not about energy. it is a specific tool that putin tested in his time at chernobyl when they seized it and

began to shake up the situation as if it were a hint that nearby a man-made disaster can happen to the european union, now they have raised the degree by an order of magnitude and we understand that the game goes too far putin's bloody dangerous game in your opinion it is not an energy issue, but in your opinion what he wants to bargain for himself now in the current specific nuclear man-made situation, well it is you know this is such a typical boyish plot which is very simple and very clear, it still drags on, do you remember when houses were blown up in moscow and many other cities of russia and putin on these detonation came to power, that is, they blamed the chechens, they started this war, and as a result, so to speak, he won from it, these fighters are old, and all

this, this whole dispute came to power, that is, they are playing the same combination today from the nuclear plant, they fired at them, captured them, created huge threats they blamed ukraine and now they are now acting as peacekeepers by buying or recruiting many representatives of international organizations and counting that they will succeed again in this trick with him but it's the same elementary is enough elementary everything is explained, you understand here it's not at the level of a child in the third or fourth grade everything is absolutely clear i think that our european partners in general, the g7, have already dealt with this situation, accordingly there was a statement that no one trusts russia and her so-and-so statement of her hypothesis, and everyone is calling for russia to withdraw its occupying

troops from this situation. this is the only way to guarantee a guarantee. in general, all troops are on the territory of the legal territory of ukraine. this is nothing else. it is necessary to do for security so we agree in my humble opinion i think that after all putin one way or another is really afraid of our counteroffensive in the south with this purpose he wants to raise the stakes so that i don't know maybe now putin may want to implement one or another peacekeeping mission and establish some kind of demilitarized zone, because if they are really completely blocked, it will mean a huge personal defeat for putin not only on the international arena, but in particular among his military elites for putin, this stake is extremely high, mr. volodymyr, what was sent with this mission at the

time, uh, that means macron drago and scholz, who were supposed to force ukraine to peace on putin's terms, but after buchi irpinav, whom they took there , they didn't even they voiced this version, then erdoğan joined in with his grain yes, and they also tried to force ukraine to sit down for profitable negotiations, in fact, to capitulate at the expense of this grain, it also did not work out, and now it’s again a new blackmail, it’s nuclear nuclear a colossal threat from the connection of all the agents of the agent network that is in international structures in russia. well, in any case , we also understand that autumn is inexorably approaching

. and after autumn, winter will come. due to the purchase of natural gas produced on the territory of ukraine, the document states that the government has accordingly changed the property policy of naftogaz, what are the prospects, mr. volodymyr, fill our gas storages, yes, and then we will talk about the vulnerability of our gas transportation and gas distribution system, well, it is unlikely that we will fill 19 billion cubic meters, and this is a question of whether it is necessary to have such volumes, since today the cost of natural gas in the distribution market is more than two thousand €2,000 per thousand for a thousand cubic meters ukraine is not able to pull such a price for long-term contracts can be bought there lower there somewhere well for 800 for 1,000 € up to a thousand cubic meters but this is also extremely

it is expensive and there are not enough of such volumes, so i think that it is necessary to depart from reality and mainly rely on gas from our own production, er, we will be able to fill somewhere with it in storage 13 and a half 14 billion cubic meters by the first of november, and it is possible to buy more. well, a maximum of a billion 2 billion cubic meters. i think that this should be enough for just 19 billion. i think that we will not have enough money and we will not be able to find the appropriate resources. well, no one will give them to us because there is a huge gas famine this year as well in you today, the winter period is expected in europe itself in the countries of the european union. as for oil , just a few days ago the information space exploded with certain news about the transit of russian oil to some of the european countries through ukraine, and we are

talking about part of the druzhba pipeline. now the transit is already being restored, but only after the hungarian oil refining company took over the payment of services instead of the russian federation, and in principle the slovaks did the same with slonavt and the russian transfer. i will remind you that the day before it was ukraine that stopped the transit due to the sanctions that made it possible to pay for the transit services. if i understand correctly, slovakia and hungary are now paying for the transit and the russian federation simply does not need to do this, so who won in this story anyway? well, i think it is russia is trying to make another proposal in the sanctions policy of the european union, the initiative was the russian federation, they did not pay us for the transit, accordingly, we cannot pump without payment

, they stopped this transit, which they did not pay because they they put forward a demand to pay through gazprombank from uh, you know that there is a corresponding spider from putin that all this is paid, uh, you have to open these funds in this gazprombank, there is a certain conversion from euros to rubles . what is this, i think that this is such a hidden special operation of russia in order to uh to make it preach on all the sanctions well, we have it so to speak unfortunately, hungary uh, so it means that it is also involved here and uh, in fact, there is no glory yacht, it is not some non-slovak company, it is located on the territory of slovakia but it is controlled by the same hungarian company moll, which also controls the factory in hungary for scalambada, that is, i think that this option is still temporary, it cannot

suit the ukrainian side because, er, our partners may think that ukraine somehow wants to bypass these psychics although she herself initiates them, that is why this issue is very difficult, first of all, secondly, it is under the seal, i think so, secretly, secretly, and it is mine , we don’t know each other because of this, so such things need to be decided at the nsdc, and the main thing is that to solve them in order not to give our european partners an excuse to accuse us of violating some sanctions . thank you very much, mr. volodymyr volodymyr melnychenko, director of energy programs of the rumzkova center. thank you for this analysis of the work on the air of the espresso tv channel. thank you to the collective brain of the rumzkova center. for your expert work we are going

further 15 hours 44 minutes well working our next double inclusion i would like to give information that concerns our closest friends estonia will not allow citizens of russia to enter the country to whom it issued schengen visas - this is a message from the head of the foreign ministry of estonia during a visit to ukraine , and estonia will not allow citizens of a terrorist country for us, a terrorist country, but not only for us, but this more on that with schengen visas issued by her. and we can also talk about schengen visas that were issued by third countries . with our next guests so we are happy to welcome igor eydman, a sociologist, a russian opposition leader, who is currently in germany, in touch with us. igor, we also congratulate

oleksiy holobutsky, a political technologist, deputy director of the situation modeling agency. the pros and cons, so to speak, of the ban on the entry and stay of russian citizens in the european union. now it's emotionally accepted, but it seems to me that here you can see that the pluses and minuses for the ukrainians of the free world must be weighed. will the free world and ukraine be thrown away during the time of russia

? young people, programmers include scientists, specialists in these technologies, businessmen are leaving the fields, active, i live here, if they, god forbid, stay in russia, they will be their own, as never before, rubles that contribute to the budget they would support this criminal regime , they would support it, they would keep it with their own what kind of technological business ideas should be supported in the economy ? более более кремля кастрачичной по он может прибег всё объемного mobilizatsii тод и молдые люди мужчины прочемним рисных людей хочай this is not, well or not, we would go to fuck ukraine for the last you are now talking about emigrants and we are talking about

tourists who are permanent residents of the russian federation, a terrorist state, pay taxes there and then ride wherever they want . in principle, let them not let their daughter go to europe . it is absolutely necessary to let in on these very things, we will leave the display of the regime on and maybe in ukraine, it is worth touching on unconditionally a tourist is possible to travel as a tourist, yes, wednesday did not hit, and according to the putin regime, not recently, there are no major

european advantages, on the other hand, from some i like it morally, that is, it is true. well, it sounds perfect. yes, once again , a military engineer is supposed to be a military engineer, so he participated in the state of weapons of mass destruction against ukraine, and then he went and rested on the azure pepper of france is definitely wild. and therefore, of course , there are some ideas related to the installation of m.m. on the border for the reception of the next tourist tourist , the schengen visa, they are here for me, how different they are, what kind of moral side they chose. for russians will most of the countries of the european union still respond to this initiative at least and not only and what to do with emigrants or

will life become more difficult for them abroad outside the russian federation and why is it so painful for us topic, we understand that, on the one hand, this is such a psychological moment that works. yes, we understand, well, we want to say, so to speak, that they feel what collective putin has been doing in ukraine, on the other hand, we understand that this is probably still not enough, but this topic, despite all this, is extremely it is being discussed lively in the ukrainian segment of the internet, as if there are no such hot topics, that is, the topic is important, of course, the topic is important, i am constantly watching uh, our uh, performances of various, as they say now, good russians who, even in this matter, completely manipulate information. how does your guest manipulate the language? this is not about emigration, not about refugees, not

about political persecution. i know, i voted, i didn’t vote for putin there, uh, i dated, i didn’t marry putin, but he lives quietly in a country that is at war, that is killing a neighboring country, to put it bluntly, then he goes to europe and rests there and supposedly everything is fine that is, to create some uncomfortable language, of course , that it will not prevent putin from doing what i want to do, but also pretend that everything is fine, that you can live as you lived before, that this is a war . staying there for six months and that will be the end of it, no, of course, the russian people should all feel their

responsibility for what is being done in ukraine in independence, he is for, against, and so on, you understand when the german dissidents or resistance fighters were developing some plans for the destruction of hitler and so on and they were attacked by british or american aircraft, they died there, for example , yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, responsibility is certain, yes, in general, what can’t be done. doesn't like putin very much and this guy can't stand putin at all, especially again, we're talking about a very ruddy-eyed crown who stole a toilet in buchi, somehow it's hard for me to imagine him going to florence or rome after that and e-e reaches the museum so to speak, we are also talking about beads, the one who

played. well, we are a colleague, a representative of the russian position, what did you call him? well, he is talking about what kind of mobilization they will find. the problem is poverty, not that i think that a resident of moscow or st. petersburg who can afford to travel, especially now, when everything has become more expensive to travel to italy and so on, he will find there $500,000 or how much there is $3,000,5000 in order to buy off the military commissariat and not fall under the general mobilization and all the more and again about the specialists who work, well, i don’t understand , they all worked excellently, they earned decent money, how much they worked, the results of their work, we can now see the second army of the world, well, it fights at the level of the best case scenario of the 20th century,

you will find and buy everything that putin needs you are in other markets, i will try at least yes, he has specialists and in general, the population is too smart and especially not needed, i don’t see the point is it located in russia or is it located in europe, that is, i am in the eye of logic about the fact that 100,000 200,000 well now i'm not talking about schengen, of course, about emigration . yes, but what about 100,200,300,000 people who will pay taxes and this is just critically important for putin. well, it's just funny. although i understand the entire pr component of this proposal. of course , what to deny the russians schengen visa is easier than giving up russian gas, this is an important moment, so giving up russian gas is much more difficult, more expensive, only i would like to voice my vision of the problem, i am categorically against collective responsibility, so to speak

responsibility can be political or civil, so we understand that well, for example, the soviet union committed more than one aggression against neighboring states. well, what would it be worth? i don’t know the bloody suppression of the uprising in hungary or the suppression of the prague spring in 1968, not to mention the collective pogrom near kandahar, which was organized by the soviet military. yes, we understand how many crimes were committed, and on the other hand , we understand that far from the entire population of the soviet union, let me remind you that the ukrainian the soviet socialist republic was also part of the soviet union, far from it. not everyone supported such war crimes, which were committed on orders from moscow. the story here is very delicate, but i would ask igor eidman to respond

to hearing. you can, well, now, please clarify. alexey holobutsky said that you are mixing up the concepts of certain things , it is about uh, uh, visa issues and tourist issues in the historian of visas, political visas tourism will clearly disperse the position on these lum different questions on immigration questions i said that ukraine is freely mass i only mass migration is russia's pace that is coming it may not be worth it not you now even millions this is the first second and i said that while the war is going on with

morally invested trenee definitely let's say so voprosa to not give to russia by which regime and can they rent there as i spoke on the azurny perekale, i don’t know the beauty of madrid there, see then go further to mock the ukrainian or at least or at least the facts of this here if at least the methods so that’s completely two different questions and there’s a flash how didn’t laugh on the contrary, my colleagues first accused me of the pace, you are standing, you are asking to tie questions about tourism and the delay of emigration, and then, uh, he will also bring people down, and according to my beaten relative methods, he mixed up these as two different ones. no

break up, well, the financed approach without emotions was absolutely simple, it was understandable because the right thing is simple but she let's say so. it is important for the global international. put we are waiting for everything. the appeal of the congress, the state of the sponsor of terrorism, who would really lead to a periodic problem for the russian authorities, this is

all from one side of the other side, unconditionally , they are here, as if hiding the shootings of useful infantiles, that is, so that the solution, which is not so important on the international stage , is insufficient situation, then they set an example for the polik of the big ones to grind the powerful state of the usa and the leadership, i am an ally to follow them. to the state sponsors, and put that the russians are accused by that, just criminals who can be eaten in the rooms. yes, for international criminals, this question will be solved, and vice versa .

russia is a state sponsor of terrorism, will latvia set an example for other countries of the european union and maybe for our overseas friends? i don't know, let's see. broadcast with the russians, somehow they didn’t warn about collective responsibility, so answer the host, that’s why we and he are responsible for the fact that there was no collective responsibility for all the crimes of the soviet union, so it was when you were responsible and then our country was 10 years wonderful ukraine, they voted for the communists before that was not yes, we now have a collective responsibility for that