after that, if i have proven that the base is opened, an arrest is made directly, yes, and the property is confiscated and transferred to further management, at least it is temporary to such a service as arthur, you know that, and this is, in principle , now, by and large, a simple tool that is further there there is an application for admission. here, it must be considered there for 10 days, and so on, well , again. but we must understand this, and it distinguishes us from russia. we cannot be known to do there according to the law, because we know what is there. it's russian, let's take away the birds, we, we, the rights of the countries are written, let's not be fools of chickens, roosters with russia or syria, we want to be in line with european countries, we have, in principle, legal mechanisms that can already be applied, and which ones work quickly well , they work poorly because there is no such solution

. thank you rostyslav smirnov, advisor to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine, political expert, co-founder of the dobrobaty project, he was in touch with us . now we will add it to the broadcast vitaly bakumenka of the expresso correspondent to italy, we are glad to welcome you glory to ukraine, it looks like druzhkivka slovyansk is in contact with us, donetsk direction, what is the situation there, well, in druzhkivka, the peace is calmer, because it is far from the front line, but of course not far from the girlfriend, everything is the same missile strikes often arrive. there were strikes here. there were also air strikes here. in general, in the direction of kramatorsk, there are hostilities, of course, under the guidance of the general staff of jet fighters from aircraft, and

strikes were also recorded in the direction of bakhmut. quite fierce fighting is going on, and they are generally fighting there. of all that is on fire, there is some kind of mortar. by the way, we were there yesterday afternoon. we stopped by and wanted to work and take pictures, but the situation is very dangerous there. we got in the car and immediately hid in the shelter safely. we arrived, got out of the car, immediately hid in a shelter, the enemy just at that moment began to kill in the city a-a jet with jet systems. we decided that it was necessary to leave the city . projectiles and there, unfortunately, local people were killed, a projectile fell or exploded near a store where, well, where local people constantly go, and there, according to information from

donetsk ova, six people were killed there, three were injured in total, and for the tenth since yesterday, in the past day, 11 peaceful people died in donetsk oblast, this is in bakhmut 6. three in soledar, one person in krasnohorivka and one in avdiivka. system is a very powerful and terrible weapon. well, just around the city, although, of course, there is almost nothing left of the sands there, but it is very scary. and they do not stop trying to break through the avdiivka defense. vitaliyu how is the evacuation proceeding? i will definitely

remind you of the evacuation of the civilian population in order for people to leave, they need to contact the relevant authorities. but what is the mechanism for refusing to evacuate, because we understand that a large number of local residents still want to remain in the city of their permanent residence, well, as for the refusal, i will tell you this: we worked in avdiivka for several days and talked with local residents about the evacuation, of course those who wanted to leave had already left avdiivka and in the city where there were about 30 000 people live there, now about 1,500 remain. we talked, they do not want to

move in. everyone has different arguments. they worked there with the police, well, they say that it doesn’t even make sense to give them this document, well, of course , it can be done for the bureaucratic procedure, but they say that the locals will sign any document because they have already firmly decided that they will stay in avdiivka regarding the general evacuation, then for in the last week, they officially took out this official information about 4,000 people, this is sloviansk, kramatorsk, and the villages around it, and trains leave from pokrovsk every day. at 4:30 p.m., it goes to lviv and every other day adding six cars to this train and it goes to the kirovohrad region, by the way, they give assistance

to those who go there to the kirovohrad region and one-time monetary assistance there 3,000 for families with and where there are people with disabilities 2,000 there for families with children it is once for a month and they will give one-time assistance at the stations in kropyvnytskyi and oleksandria, also 3,000 and 2,000 hryvnias, this is one-time assistance, well, the evacuation is ongoing and tomorrow there will be such a train, people are gathering somewhere a day, they leave on it, about 400-500-600 regarding the evacuation of local people in avdiivka, i also want to say what i saw and what did not impress us, it is not that people are refusing, uh, people are refusing in many cities of donetsk region and luhansk region. we have already seen many reports and communicated. you also know this. i was struck by the fact that people with small children stay there, small children live with their parents for two years,

one year, three years, and the children live in damp basements, and it happens that there is so much shelling that people do not go outside at all. number we understand that this is for children, well, you can't do it like that. children must breathe air and go outside in the sun. we understand that their future health also depends on this. months and they are about to give birth, but even their neighbors are persuading them to go somewhere else where there is a maternity hospital, because there is nothing like that in avdiivka, but they refuse, saying that they will give birth somehow, just like once before. such terrible stories. i don't know what's wrong with it. do but stay and they will sign any paper to stay there. i don't know if this is necessary. well, maybe

some other measures should be applied. congratulations, what is the argument of the people who decided to stay and what is the argument of the people who still go. yes, we understand that society is divided into several segments, those who want to stay in spite of everything and those who still leave well, in general, how is the evacuation itself organized ah, let's talk about motivation first, well, what do people say, people say that well , first of all, it seems to me that they are just afraid unknown people, they say that we have no one waiting for us there, there is no place for us to live there, there will be no work , but there a local told us that he has a daughter in the dnipro, she is 27 years old, but she cannot find a job and she has to rent an apartment, but i don't know it's

a strange story, because you can definitely find a job in dnipro. he said that he was offered a job for uah 350 a day. well, i don't know. i tried some of his counterarguments, but that's all. well, people don't believe it, but many people are just used to it. does not want to leave their homes well, they are determined to spend the winter, they say that someone bought a gas cylinder there, they will somehow cook food there in the winter they say that they will shelter there, dress warmer and spend the winter like that well, i don’t know this, it was very difficult for me to understand but the main thing is that people just don’t want to leave their homes and, well, taking risks they stay there, but they don’t want to go anywhere. those who want to go, and they also have the same arguments, but those people make a decision, maybe it’s difficult for them, and maybe someone consults with someone for a long time, but

still, ah, they fall for themselves relatives homes i know that it is possible that they will return here not soon, thanks to italy for the work please take care of yourself vitaly bakumenko espresso correspondent who is currently in donetsk region joined our broadcast well, we are moving on to the analysis of the military situation with us, an expert from defen express ivan kyrychevsky ivan, congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes, the first question is still possible, which will relate to the night explosions in zabrovtsi, belarus, this is the airfield that belarus, in principle, gave to the russian federation and for a much longer time and charged a large number of interesting and heavy weapons, the official position of the ministry of defense of the republic of belarus is something with the engine of some

kind of car. is happening now in the belarusian direction and in zyabrovka, in particular, if you take into account today's statement of the spokesman of the air force command of the armed forces of ukraine that the armed forces of ukraine rely heavily on the belarusian partisans who apparently capable of destroying anti-aircraft missile complexes , it is obvious that the armed forces of ukraine had their hand in one way or another before the destruction of those anti-aircraft missiles, but it is obvious that we cannot but recognize this fact by the voice, that is, that is what we have set up for the armed forces of ukraine there is such a moment in this regime in order to take psychological pressure on the enemy. similarly to the case with the savky airfield when the ministry of defense decided to declare that it was you who

just accidentally smoked and we don't care about them we have nothing to do with each other, but it’s better to run away because there will be new bavov, just like all of them are on their own, because the russians thought that they didn’t set up a fortified bastion there, which you can download missile complexes, eh, there is an es-300 adaptation for shelling written targets, those the kanter sets themselves, they obviously thought that they were there, uh, relative security, because uh, the armed forces of ukraine still do not consider it necessary to drink on belarusian territory. thus, they decided not to admit about them there on the territory, something happened. well, because you are the belarusian air defense in principle as such, that is, there are micro radars there , anti-aircraft missile systems obtained there from russia and some kind of system is formally installed there i don't have

air defense in belarus, but in fact it doesn't work from the other side, even if the belarusians or the military seem like we are going to die for our homeland for lukashenka in this murderous attack against ukraine, although theoretically belarus does not want there are missile complexes of our own that we cannot be on our territory, there are those polonezas with a range of 300 km, the option is that this dictator lukashenko yesterday, you know that he will want to hit our territory with these missile complexes, you can’t rule it out well, but it seems that here, the russian military themselves do not want to escalate the conflict , as you and i know, that is why it is happening and we decided to stop at the fact that it is just the partisans who have tried and it is time to show off in principle. well, the belarusian military found themselves in the position of their russian colleagues, when to admit their failure is, you know, the death of someone like that . well, mr. ivan, let's ask you about

another cotton, yes, the military airfield, the number of units of equipment is increasing. days have passed, but there is still one complete version. well, it is clear that this is a pleasant story. but we still do not fully understand who to thank, saboteurs , aviators, gunners, or some drunken heel who, so to speak, decided to smoke on a box of dynamite well, we don't know whose army it was probably the dragons well, there's simply no other way that it's krychevsky, well, you know the version about the dragons, for

starters, that's to thank well, after all, it's obvious to the rocket engineers of the armed forces of ukraine because, well detonation at once in several places with such a large amount of ammunition, well, no drunken beet or even no prominent saboteur can arrange it again. it was obviously such a sorbed transitional strike on this object. all the more so, well you know, at one time, an entire airfield is below the braid of aviation that invited the south of ukraine, you know, there was an airfield and there is no airfield here, the action is even cooler than the destruction of the cruiser moscow, well, you know, i’m asking for outstanding results like these, i see rockets, and here it remains of course, it is a question of guessing how and how a mobilized technician named vasyl guessed how to remove the blocking of the fundality of shooting sky marcel and still there some other mobilized electric e-e came up with , for example, e-e adapt this shooting to a positive

so the complex well, the third version, what is it anyway, you know one more metalized ekishniks came up with, and you will say so, produced several missiles for our experienced and promising operational-tactical complex of the peregrine falcon complex, you know that, as far as i understood the opportunity peregrine falcon , we are talking about the same thing now we say the possibility that we already have such a thing, it’s just that the public space does not have this information or good old neptune. defeat and you know how they were afraid in principle of their existence on the territory of the crimean peninsula because if you think seriously if it was just the appearance of highmars with a firing range of 84 km that led the russians to such a frenzy that they decided to try to get these tsomai systems with

cruise missiles with with a firing range of 5,500 km , imagine what kind of mood they will have there now after they realize that they were hit at a distance of 300 km. good, but what about the relay and such, but still our enemy's anti-aircraft defense. well, that's it there is still no mention of what we are going to do now, we are very much and it is nice to say that, well, the distance from where the missiles came from, er, to destroy the location missiles in our country, because let’s say so, er, let’s say that to some colleagues, assuming that compote, then theoretically miss the possibility of adaptation firing a bomber, there is a 24m court for shooting farms, but there is a plus, there is also a certain complex for the processing of on-board equipment.

the russians would not have broken through on their own, because again it is obvious what happened before the strike. yes, there is the clearing of the anti-flood defense in this area, which well, she said, cleared the way for the flight of our missiles . we can recall neptune there, as there is nothing in single copies, we do not have anything, but if necessary, we apply it, and it is very gratifying, on the other hand , we understand that the enemy, unfortunately, is also not sleeping and is charging both personnel and equipment to south and here the key question is who is faster, whether we will implement our counter-offensive in the south, or whether the russians will gather their forces in sufficient numbers in order to try to advance in the direction of

zaporizhzhia, that is, the dilemma of two speeds. well, on the other hand, we understand the preparation if all the relevant missile and artillery our strength is concentrated on combat positions, everything is calculated, well, the russian offensive cannot be implemented either, our experts who are located just in the south assured us that the level of training is extremely high let's you and i find ourselves such interesting stories, because on the one hand, you are actually right when you say that the russians are trying to pick up the pace by shifting their grouping of troops to the right bank in order to launch an offensive to zaporozhye, to other directions, on the other hand, we are trying to pick up the pace by destroying important infrastructure facilities of the enemy force, because if the city in novaya kakhovka is finally destroyed, it is important for the dispersal of the enemy's kherson bridgehead. even if we take into account all the effects, the destruction of

lithuania in the sraks is also important for the further defeat of the enemy in the kherson direction, so you know the literal meaning of the pace of the battle for the south of ukraine will depend on the speed of flight of our missiles. to destroy logistics facilities in russia quickly, and that they will manage to transfer some more of their troops there, the minister of various things said today that there are only 170,000 reliable russians there for the aggression against ukraine, that is, in fact, manpower, the desire for format meat to pretend there is actually not so much more important than cannon fodder. they had nothing to fight for and it comes out. the sooner we destroy the reserves for this cannon fodder , the more you know we will have exchange fund then cannon fodder doesn't want to die either. we are aware of it, so they are also prepared. well, the number of artillery anti-aircraft systems in our country is

not high enough, well, so high that our military would say no, everything is enough, we are enough we understand that there are certain needs, so the british decided to help us. well, what about plus three additional multiple rocket launcher systems? i don’t know if it’s a lot, it’s a lot. but i understand that if there were 13, it would be better there or 23, and then three and that’s it. there is a corresponding, sir, accordingly, a certain dosage , but the meeting in copenhagen is taking place now, as if the continuation of the rammstein conference system is being continued, it is about some kind of, i don’t know, principled new approach, which i don’t know, could improve the provision of our troops with western what are the prospects for the minister of defense oleksiy reznikov participating in this meeting, in fact, let's say, we can say that you are this copenhagen format, what else will it be like under the format within the framework of the

kromstein format? on the list of participants of this copenhagen conference - it is a state too, which in one way or another depends on great britain in another way has bilateral and allied relations that regarding the fact that we got through the question, they have already announced there the transfer of three sisters 70 on one side, really it is three systems with 12 empty installations each, i.e. 36 missiles in one salvo and it turns out that if it were not too many and i would really like, as you say, 13 on the other sides, we are now at that stage of the war, when it is not even the number of empty stops that is more important to us, but the pace of their pick-up, because how is it that the american military and the british military show such a pleasant feat for themselves and it turns out that we know how to use their systems better than they do, and it turns out that it is

theirs. it’s just that there’s an arrival there, because there, for example , to achieve this, we need 40-50-60 wrestlers . for example, i used such a metaphor that the tension of our victory in the southern direction lies in the error of the flight of our missiles, it turns out that we need not even that much there, for example, 20, well, conditionally speaking, well, yes, 20 additional m-270 systems like that so that the missiles don't arrive on time, well, at the same time, it won't hurt either way, let's still ask for it, god willing, they will give something just for laughs, we understand that very important things are happening in copenhagen right now, and the delegation of the ministry of defense, headed by oleksiy differentikov is participating in a conference at the level of defense ministers of more than 20 partner states of ukraine, this is a continuation of the

rammstein format for military aid to our country, what can we do in this ozerka ? everything that is possible is possible not in the largest amount, but still the europeans have already given us a demonstration , we can try to get some samples of artillery, armored vehicles and other types of weapons from there, which we need on the battlefield, because uh, let's remember such interesting facts that, let's say, he initially put uh-e pifatn 270 from great britain, it turned out that norway sold several such corresponding systems to great britain, that is, you see what an interesting relationship is visible again there uh-uh the other day, denmark volunteered to give its instructors to train as many of our fighters as possible according to strict standards, and here let's not forget that

in denmark, to the great joke of its authorities, the story of the supply of wheeled armored personnel carriers to piranha-type divisions was slowed down because there are swiss components and switzerland became simple that it will not supply us with any company and military purpose, because it is also a violation of neutrality, accordingly, as there, the copenhagen format is also needed to search look for something like that, ask a question, i don't know , the state of the world's armaments looks like we can still search in caches, or do we need to talk about massive launches of defense industries of countries that can manufacture and supply us and themselves, well , you know. it is still possible to gain time for the launch of the defense industry of developed countries, because it is in some way. this is exactly

how it is that in order to access such capacities, it is necessary for lend-lease to hit the state of america took time at least until october, it is the same as that of great britain. therefore, in the meantime, so that our capabilities do not sink, dig into what you can in the literal sense. well, even there is a story with these british well, like the british m-109 self-propelled howitzers that we received, did you at all were purchased from warehouses in belgium. there was such a complicated corruption story that i was just looking for. well, but in principle, if there are no-carriage howitzers, no one needs them, but they are needed in ukraine, so they need to be bought back according to a complicated scheme now, let's say that's all for the sake of, let's say, the reconciliation of such stories, who has some weapons there and they can't simply be connected with some such complicated bureaucratic stories, that's why great britain has now laid down, well, in any case, russia has launched now the atomic

format is about the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, what are the prospects for surrounding the russian groups, so to speak, to what extent do you think, mr. ivan, that they are firmly cemented there and, in general, how the situation there can develop because this story not only about the nuclear plant, but about the right-bank group of russian troops, which without bridges de facto may find themselves in a trap and no pontoons will help them, but that is of course. how did the state as a nation find itself in a rather difficult situation when precisely at this turn of events it is difficult to predict the enemy, because on the one hand, information passed that the fighters of the so- called chvk wagner were the ones who mined objects on zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, well, obviously

, then this general gave a speech about the fact that zaporizhzhia land will be russian or not, so that the crime is covered up from the other side . any simulations of the hypothetical blow-up of the zaporizhia npp show that the beach will be the first from this explosion. that's exactly what's happening on the right bank, because it's the whole radioactive death cloud coming at them, if you can, you understand, well, it will increase the amount of compensation , you understand, in the beetroot, ava, well, the amount is the same as there the compensation there will immediately be 50,000, that is, after the modulation, the cloud goes to the temporarily occupied crimea. that is, there, as you know, plus a few million money, and then this cloud and something for istanbul, with which moscow does not want to cancel relations, so you know, it turns out approximately such a model that if suddenly the armed forces will come to other defense forces there to find a model of how to psychologically break the russians there, well, according to the

effect of fire there on the herbalists and other means. maybe they will act like that because, well, the russians found ourselves in the position of fap with a grenade and this grenade must be taken away somehow well, let's hope that it will still be possible to do it without colossal man -made consequences. information about the situation around the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, ee in energoatomiya announced about the enemy shelling, what is known, as of now, five arrivals have been recorded in the area of ​​the station 's command post right next to the cooking area and the storage of radiation sources, the grass grew on a small area, but luckily no one was hurt , five more flights took place in the area of ​​the fire station, which is located not far from the station, the information that the staff is panicking is

an enemy fake and manipulation thank you for the information, the center for strategic communications and information, well, one more piece of news, briefly, the occupiers fired tornadoes at the port infrastructure of the mykolaiv oblast, the operational command of the south, the occupiers, reports with airstrikes they are terrorizing the liberation of the population points and our positions in the future they are shelling the population with rocket-reactive systems of salvo fire and heavy artillery , the population points well now they have shelled the ports in the mykolayiv region so at the moment it is not known which ones well the information is being clarified, we will inform you well, now christina, honestly, you are on the espresso and iryna tv channel kovaliv will be introduced by iryna. congratulations . we invite you to speak. thank you, colleagues. well, actually speaking, i will tell you about what you just told me in the news.