believes that he cannot fight and defend, that is, the structure that was built diligently 8 years ago is completely breaking down. if we remember the 14th year, how can we argue that, from the series, they legitimized what happened, so there was a temporary annexation and so on , the main message, including there from the western countries, what about that, well, wait, well, look how powerful russia is, a nuclear power over there swallowed this story, this is how i was reminded of an anecdote or a professor. is it true that your wife is your subject? such operation in the crimea, russia is responsible for it. no, a shell fell there, an explosion happened there. well, everyone saw these photos and the huge airfield was

detonated in several different places. yes, there were explosions on russia, and it constantly carried out such provocative operations on the territory of russia, there were some explosions in belgorod, some in the border areas there in the rostov region, some shelling and they said it was shelling of ukraine, it was shelling of ukraine but russia even the russians who lived there didn't believe in it, yes they say we hear there babakh here bubuh, well, what are you doing? yes, we are firing at ourselves, and here we saw the real reaction of the russians to the war on the on in our occupied crimea, now only the russians are resting, no one else is there cannot drive and the continuation of this opinion that it is not important what happened, it is important how they saw it and what do they think of this russia saw that war is a sharp-edged battle it can be not only on tv reports of kiselyov and

there the russian ministry of defense sold the offensive and what here she and she turns to face you this war and this death that war brings and this is what an explosion looks like - this is how a rocket explodes, they saw it and ran in fear. so you all applauded and are applauding putin for the liberation special operation in quotation marks, they are for the war and not themselves they want to fight because they supported what they supported the liberation of ukraine from the fascists, which was demonstrated on television, and you, sitting on the sofa with a bottle of beer and drinking it, feel like you put on yourself there , er, air force beret, and you sit and support this whole story. when here, when you see how it really is, well , people's point of view changes, and it seems to me that this is the main conclusion for the people who saw it at

their own match from what happened to them, but in fact they themselves watched like ours there were traffic jams as we fled to europe, mothers with children with dogs and cats and laughed about it, well, i'm sorry. now you have visited our school. as they say, we are frankly happy when the russians begin to see the war and see the war with their own eyes, it was at a military facility and a little when we we we we will consider eh no one can survive bucha and irpin, but if this happened in russia, the russians would have a completely different look at what he is. i am worried about this. i hope that someone will see through something. yes, it is very . yes, i do not know. similarly, hope that putin is there. it is even an analogy. i didn’t come up with any good one about putin, they don’t climb their own way, because

that’s right. well, in russia, they live according to a very simple and understandable algorithm. so we are the strongest on this planet, but the whole world simply does not love us because it is afraid, but all this is theoretical, and crimea in particular crimea showed this whole story in a very theoretical way, and here, in fact, you don’t even have to think like that what ordinary russians will think there. yes, roughly speaking, they will think, uh, they will think exactly what they will see, and they saw. exactly what you just described for me, i think the main thing is what the western countries will think about this, which all this time they clearly make it clear to us that it is impossible to contact russia because it is a dangerous player who is very strong, including there, so that this does not happen on their territory, as they consider it, they will be strict consequences, i don't know how many months we have been following news after news about cotton boys and the like, and russia, no matter what, and you already know this

moment will be noticed not only by ordinary russians, it is very important here, but also by putin's, well, roughly speaking, the pillars on which he stands in general, putin himself, his generals, his immediate entourage, and so on, sooner or later with these stories, everyone will come to the conclusion that nothing is impossible, that the kingdom is not real, and that crimea itself - this is crimean cotton. so it is the impetus for all this. europe, the world, in principle, have already come to this conclusion, because in russia, too, they had to react in some way, and the reaction was weak, purely for the repayment of the internal audience, that is, that nothing happened, some soldier there smoked some kind of carelessness, no, oh, they don’t have any missiles, be careful about those 300 km there is nothing they are not capable of and so on, that is, they realized that well, let it be a shame, so to speak, in the

external arena. their reaction both to what happened and to what the government declares, that is, the difference is this contrast, and it was necessary. on the crimean bridge, when the russians were fleeing after these explosions, it was necessary to conduct a survey, and do you still support the war or not? i think it would be very a cool slice of real emotions and a real reaction, but yevhen koxinov noted that what the world thinks is important to you, you know, it is important to me that the world understands that this military airfield was the epicenter of evil, rockets were launched from there to kremenchuk, to vinnytsia they died simply without innocent people, this is what the world understands and that now such evil will be less - this is the main thing and this is the main thing 9 planes they lost millions millions they lost it seems from the number of missiles fired at ukraine they no longer count how many they lost

and we are already tired of counting these e s- a hundred hundred million dollars information that after what happened separately, they will launch the latest hypersonic dagger missiles over ukraine and we have already discussed with yuri ignat e about the designation of these ppu missiles in our country is very difficult in well, it flies in atmosphere. well, it is very difficult to knock it down. well, there are only a few seconds, and that's it. well, that's the way it is. let's hope that this is also an official psychological operation, a traditional one, and that's all . to recall the reaction of belarus to i think that for lukashenko the story in the occupied crimea did not go unnoticed because the same planes with the same weapons fly out of belarus every day and careless handling of ammunition on the territory belarus can be very shaken by the position of lukashenka and the desire of belarusians. it seems to me that

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1+1 returns on the air night watch and further friends i propose to discuss probably the most serious problem that awaits the whole of europe and in general the whole world this winter is the story of gas blackmail of russia and putin he frankly expects that his a-ah this gas needle on which he planted the european union will work and he will be able to push the eu to the lifting of sanctions and the withdrawal of support from ukraine . that on the one hand, we see the resolute statements of the same europeans about the fact that we are all getting off the gas needles well, there with a little

tape, the truth is until 2030 so, on the other hand, we see attempts at blackmail roughly speaking, gazprom, so friends, you either buy, you earn, or goodbye, and at first everyone is in a position that no, no, no, we won’t buy anything, and then bam, we see that one country agrees, another country agrees, and here , in fact, it is difficult for us. to summarize this whole story like this, because on the one hand you see that countries leave easily and refuse, and then again , here is bulgaria, yes, bulgaria became the first country that refused to pay for gas in rubles, so after a while they announced that everything to us we don't need russian gas, we won't even have supplies once the united states went to bulgaria, and today there is a conversation about whether it is possible for bulgaria to restore the supply of gas, which creates with the northern flow one yes, how is russia successfully using blackmail with these 7s turbines, they

say we can't to launch them and restore the volume of gas supplies to europe because we are hindered by the imposed sanctions and although it would seem that the turbines have already been returned, yes they are in germany but russia yes and this and this is the most important thing that i think putin is a demon, he understands for example, the supply of oil and gas from russia to the world in other countries, this is the main supplier of money, the kremlin's evidence putin putin putin, he says there pennies pennies but putin is willing and ready to reduce the amount of money that goes to russia from the supply of blue fuel, understanding the importance of more importance for europe , this tool is yes. europe refuses russian gas, and the prospect is really the same there until 2030, but the draw is going on around this

fall and around this winter of the nord stream-2. hopes to achieve this by blackmail, which is currently being implemented. what do you think? well, a very likely scenario . nord stream two is built. yes, it is filled with technical gas. please open it, friends . ventel, run it, but take down the site, but there is simply a problem that when you play blackmail like this, for example , you have to understand that the ball goes everywhere when you throw it against the wall, it has a problem that sometimes this ball from the wall can bend back and even accidentally hit the face. for example, there are data from flore's analyst at fairs, so they say that russia has already reduced gas production by 37%. well, i apologize for 37%. this is quite a substantial sum , yes. plus, for example, a message that there is a gas loading point nearby, well, in the same north stream, one. yes, they are now recording the

fact that gas is simply burned there, well, you understand , an interesting point, because he also confirms that in principle, russia is in putin's hands, putin's tactics. it always only leads to half-hearted results, perhaps russia itself is not ready to completely abandon the supply of gas to it is impossible to stop the power, where to put all these reserves, where to blow up this process of burning gas, it is possible, this is an indicator, actually, this is a practice in the media, this is this, this is the public humiliation of the humiliation of the chancellor of germany, who personally went to check. it's some kind of, well, in their imagination, er, goal that they achieved, and then to some decision there in rubles, not in rubles, it's already schemes, it's already different well, let's add yuriy kovalchuk, experts of the institute, to our conversation energy strategies, let's try to find the answers to these questions, what are

putin actually trying to play good evening, mr. yuryu, good evening, good evening, photo, have you heard a bit of our discussion ? incline europe to refuse support to ukraine or banally simply to the launch of the northern stream-2 and such a public humiliation of the entire eu sanctions policy. see what i can say well, i'm not sitting in putin's head, i'm not putin, i can't be responsible for him, but we can, in principle, see those actions that really take place on the european gas market and are only related to sanctions, that is, there are no sanctions on gas, that is what you mentioned about the euroruble scheme. yes, this is actually, again, a proposal. well , you can call it counter-sanctions of russia , it is definitely possible, because it was a response to those actions, in general, yes, the united states, canada, japan, australia,

the european union, but you can't to say that on there are sanctions on the gas market, i.e. restrictions, i.e. the decision of the european union to abandon oil, when the oil barge was so partial, as we saw, and there are reasons for this. the war started and at the beginning of march there were, in principle, relatively honest well, why relatively probably honest active statements and by the ministers of some countries, so i like to mention the netherlands because he said, well, he cannot give up either oil or gas, that is, if more on oil it is possible that this is an issue that can be resolved within several years, but in terms of gas, this issue is very inertial and must be resolved. politics around gas and putin understands this

and i also understand that this winter is the coming winter . well, it is at the point of the draw of this whole story. well, you know, i will tell you that judging by the current statement of today's er head president yermak's office about the fact that the active phase of military operations must be completed by the fall because there are problems with possible strikes on the heat energy system on the system that actually operates during the heating season. as we have already seen. well, two months in, there is such a panic, yes, a panic that is connected with the fact that there is a shortage of gas, it is objectively not enough in underground storages , although there is 72% in general, if you look at it. but again , to the active the period is over there in september, i still pump up to a percentage of 85. and in principle, they always pumped up to 100%. that is, the volume that is needed and the deficit will be related to the fact that it will have to be

taken later in the winter. already everyone declares that in the usa those companies supply asian e-e qatar means arab suppliers who are currently oriented and will supply there in principle china south korea there is always a better price and higher and more and the volume of consumption in winter and therefore, most likely, this is such a panic situation, there is a firewood crisis. hungary, i see , bans the export of firewood. moldova also limits firewood there. that is, you even know this, such a picture of surrealism, so the modern world is completely developed, as if everyone is worried about firewood. not about gas, but about firewood, so on. in fact, the next stage can be, let's say, well, if not at least some such, well, no, no, no, no, no, what restrictions, yes, but, let's say, softening, yes , weakening the station. yes, we can see it in the winter period and in principle i will tell you even for the turbines that you mentioned in the maternity account, this was a softening of the sanctions, canada stepped back and made a decision regarding the 24th year, these turbines can be

repaired. it sounded as if the game is like that, someone said yes, you can of course see a certain game because, again, well, let's say so, if the turbine is sent to germany, it really should go to russia according to the contract, here, let's say, the trump card is in the hands of russia, what can they do to to appeal to this and accordingly use it to one's advantage, and the benefit in general is really what you are asking for, of course, it is present in the sense that europe cannot get rid of its dependence on russian gas during the year 2 3 5 , accordingly, it will return to the issue of restoring gas supplies from russia, accordingly, there will be the question of the possible launch of nord stream-2 in the 24th year. by the way, when does the contract for the transit of gas through ukraine end? it is not far away, it is literally two steps away. it seems like it is far away. no, it is very close, and what will the northern stream-2 completely replace the ukrainian gts, that is, then it will go to the czech republic, to italy, there were such plans, and

we can see the turkish stream. it is already working today on the south that is, it is a problem. and it can be used, and moreover, i will tell you that europe is getting into a difficult situation because they really overslept, they will draw a conclusion. keep in mind that they will go to other regions , invest in gas production, the development of deposits in the new gas pipeline, this is a very difficult moment. i can see, for example, that someone there is happy that they have made a decision, cheers, they will build a gas pipeline across the sahara. who is happy, he does not even imagine how much military problems there are, and what they can definitely be undermined and it can stop, then this is instability, and the technical part of the implementation through takhar, completely through niger to algeria and beyond, and well, these are very difficult moments as far as possible to implement, that is, the clamor that will appear somewhere , for example, in the same qatar, yes, there are already contracts there, preliminarily concluded there about participation in gas production, this all in all gives additional

production of 40 billion cubic meters, this is half of the southern park field, such a large field, and it will only be due to it has been implemented for 10 years, i don’t think that it was earlier. and these tankers need to be built. the tanker has been under construction for two years, that is, you can imagine the scale of how many tankers need to be built. and now there are ten of them. there are not enough gas carriers, that is, it is all in europe. it will be necessary to decide today, and i repeat, they will draw conclusions, they will go this way, but roughly speaking, i would say this for the next 10-15 years. they still see themselves together with russian gas, that is, no matter how we say, for example, some other position, and this will certainly weaken the european position because they will be like beggars, well, to put it conditionally, yes, this can of course expand the position of sanctions, which we are already seeing, i will repeat it already, and the turbines with canada are very revealing, and germany in principle what is their position that this was the first signal, sorry to interrupt you, well, a precedent can be said

with canada, but we are still more concerned about the situation with ukraine. there will be blows in the fall when it will be cold sweat eh what can the representatives of the authorities do and prepare for this in addition to ending the war before the heating season what can be done to prevent this well you know i am not a military person but unfortunately if we we all see these missile strikes, as they are not even under control, not that they are not under control, and that are not caught by proven defense systems . that is, it is a problem, and probably yermak when he says this, he means everything, first of all, that this is a risk , that we simply cannot to react er and that is why it is possible that such thoughts are heard that it is necessary to complete so actively a military fact. what does he mean by this? i cannot clearly comment and say, but in terms of ensuring the actual gas resource, we can do it on our side, we do it, we we are injecting 15 billion. that is, it is absolutely real that

our gas consumption by industry has also decreased. there will only be a weak point, the weakest, but it is not the most important. it is the termination of the transit of russian gas . to the system of restrictions on supplies and gas and heat to multi-apartment buildings, the question of what the government can do. well, i will say that there is nothing more it can do, but honestly, i tell you the way it is, that is, the opinions that we hear there are mobile phones, eh, well, let's say yes, it's even difficult to say boiler houses or how are they simply not there, these are all point point elements that can be used locally to solve some small point problems, and globally it is a non-working tool, so i agree with you here, only the end of the war can prevent the fact that our people will be affected -e heat and heat mains, heat centers and e generation , but returning to global issues, and listening to your facts about the general gas

relations of the european union and the russian federation. so you made it clear that, well, exactly what is stated in europe's plan, so that at least until 2030 there will be no renunciation of russian gas, and on the same issue, yes, russia also understands that the europeans are in no hurry, not even that they are in no hurry, they are not planning to give up russian gas, and so all this blackmail from russia that we will shut off the gas valve to you. first of all, it will mean that the gas valve will be shut off and there will be no gas, and the first case of shutting off gas to europe will also mean that this is the plan of the europeans to give up gas in 2030 it means that we are giving up on it now, so there will be a collapse. maybe a year, maybe two. well, some people say that there will be a 1.5% drop in gdp, but the fact that europe will immediately be left with russian gas means that

they will no longer count on russian gas. from this complex construction, i have a question for you , understanding this, well, it is not really profitable for putin to close this valve from europe, because as soon as he closes this valve, then at the same moment, according to the logic of things, russian gas will definitely will never go to europe again, even if he opens all the valves, this is not quite a logical thought , because look, i will explain to you that after all, the volume that we see a decrease in gas consumption in europe is present, that is, the europeans already have themselves, that is, they are closing their industrial facilities are reducing the use of gas there. of course, there is all the lighting. well, there where the gas test, for example, electricity comes as a part of there is hot water, that's all meager volumes, that's it. nothing about it , in fact, it won't give any economy, it's more the creation of this panic situation in such a way that you and i, for example, have also seen this. yes, for example, although i will repeat myself on the lives of europeans - it will not critically affect the lack of gas in winter.

what putin sees in russia is what, for example, europe depends on russian gas and they use it. of course it's true, but it's true even from the point of view of a businessman. well, you know , they are businessmen, and they actually have plans to increase gas production. their gas production is increasing. they are producing roughly speaking, 700 billion in their plans, they should reach the figure of approximately 900 billion for the future , this is already taking into account the production of gas that will be supplied to china, south korea, there is also japan, well, it is not just projects, it is as if the steps taken by them will be implemented and therefore, in fact, europe for them is a promising business , a promising region, they just want to keep it, and what we see today is an attempt, on the contrary, to tie more of europe to russian gas, to get greater benefits. let 's say this is how we will conduct negotiations in the future, all of them, as we remember, courts, conflicts, always with some kind of breakdowns, there has already been a gas cut in europe, if you remember, in 2009, it was precisely the ukrainian

-ukrainian-russian gas war that was so well-known that it was called that well, that's how it was in fact, even then supplies stopped and then there were lawsuits and even gazprom paid fines, but as a result , they sat down at the negotiating table and agreed and agreed, let’s say who, well, conditionally, let’s say there, someone may think the conditions are better, someone worse, but they agreed and they continued to work well, i still think that europe will draw conclusions from this situation, they will go to other regions, there are simply not enough of them - it is the persian gulf, african countries, partly latin america, and they will invest money there to extract, think about logistics, that is, the transportation of this gas, but this all the same, qatar will not cover the needs of the future, it is 40 billion gas production, well, the future is only a third of the gas that gazprom supplies to europe today. that is, it is not even a third, it is not even 2/3. to close other points, that's why you say that they will not return to the gas market. well, i wouldn't say that in europe. it's just that there is no place to get gas. it's objective, even in america today,

which went out there, they have 105 billion, they extract gunpowder of gas, and they export it, well, they export what is meant for export, that is, this is their limit, this is a record this year, a record, and they supply record volumes to the european market, partly replacing russian gas, partly because it has decreased, their gas production has decreased reduced by 30 billion somewhere before the end of the year minus 50 billion, although this is not a problem. by the way, what are you actually saying? so that you understand, i will give you two numbers. the year 2020, when there was a corona crisis, so the drop was 50 billion. also, what gas is gazprom? delivers 50 billion to europe to europe and no one would have noticed the loss, you know what they say. and in 2015, when the economic crisis was so serious. well, there it is, because it is global, so, uh, economic, so compared to 2014, production decreased by 90 billion and gazprom did not smoke this one gas is, by the way, a certain mistake to think that they are simply technically reducing its production, closing old wells, deposits, introducing new ones,

waiting, more precisely, for the growth of the economy, then introducing new ones, this is a natural process. volumes of gas, but prospects in the future, that's what you and i are talking about. and what will happen next if they know that they will win? well, how do they think, that's why we should also understand it? let's assume that the red lines were crossed and such europe refused completely, does russia have anywhere to export, well, even in the conditions that they reduce the production of e-e for the domestic russian audience, they say that they say asian countries, china , we will find other countries and so on, can it replace europe and how technologically difficult it is to rearrange gas flows in general, well , look, we often say that often you just know , if they tear it out