hmm, what are the problems? this is a derivative of the military aggression of the russian federation against us , and everything is complicated by the fact that our enemy, in principle, does not follow any rules established by the world. humanity lost millions of lives before realizing that war requires rules that should be followed by absolutely everyone because of this 12 in august 1949 , four geneva conventions were adopted: the first is dedicated to improving the fate of the wounded and sick in active armies, the second concerns the fate of the military wounded at sea, and the third regulates the rules of treatment with prisoners of war and the fourth protects the rights of civilians, as i have already mentioned, russia violates all four conventions about why the kremlin believes that the law is not written for them in our plot 73 years

ago, the foundation of international humanitarian law was laid in geneva on august 12, 1949 after the bloodiest conflict in history humanity, the world powers agreed that it is necessary to even fight according to the rules without killing prisoners of war, concentration camps, suffering of civilians and deportations of the four geneva conventions on protection of war victims is officially observed by 190 states, i.e. practically the whole world, they guarantee the basic rights of wounded servicemen , prisoners and civilians who find themselves in the conflict zone, and a deliberate violation of the document, for example, the killing of captured soldiers of the enemy army or targeted shooting of civilians, is considered a war crime that does not have a statute of limitations for the russian of the army, such actions have long since become commonplace, they were recorded en masse in chechnya, georgia, and now in ukraine, murder is free people in buch , mockery of prisoners of war in the deportation cell

and filtration camps. one of the most egregious war crimes of the rashists was the mass murder of the azov people in elenivka. observers also draw attention to the fact that back in 2019, putin signed a law according to which russia actually withdrew from the geneva convention on the protection of civilians, in particular, moscow does not recognize the right of the un to investigate military crimes well , let's continue to talk about how to bring the russian federation to justice and refute its fakes, contact us oleksandra romantsova , executive director of the center for civil liberties greetings ms. oleksandra good morning and vitaliy tetych, human rights defender, managing partner of the bar association mr. vitaliy, we congratulate you. glory to ukraine , mr. vitaliy, we understand that russia does not comply with the geneva convention. yes, i think that there are not isolated

cases, but the key question is what tools are left to force them to adhere to what they once signed and, in general, is there a similar path in the future, and vitaly, well, here is the main problem with the so-called international law, as it is often called, lawyers are confused real law is real, the difference lies precisely in the fact that in international law there is an instrument or, let's say, an institution that monitors and punishes non-observance of the norms adopted in contrast let's say that in classical law, where the state is some kind of its institutions can monitor

compliance with its own laws and, accordingly, bring this problem to justice. well, before that, it concerns the possibility of punishment for any violation of e.e. international law, including e.e. with the commission of international crimes which i am talking about now, therefore, issues regarding the mechanisms are currently being considered in the country, well, not in ukraine, in the world, uh, an existential moment in the text of international law, uh, everyone understood that those shaky constructions, which uh, the community is an international structure from the second world war wars, well, in particular, those conventions that you mentioned, uh, other very important international treaties that existed, including in terms of restrictions on nuclear weapons, there are some problems in

communication, we will ask our editors to switch to mr. vitaly tytych well, and correspondingly, a symmetrical question to ms. oleksandra , because we understand how well russia cynically and openly violates the geneva convention, we are talking about the same stories with our prisoners, this is a terrible bastard who mocked our captured soldier by killing him, and not to mention the fawn mrs. oleksandr i i'm sorry, there was a break in communication. can you repeat the symmetrical question once more? yes, we are talking about instruments of influence on the russian federation, which deliberately disrupts all the geneva agreements, in particular, we have not seen it in isolated cases, that is, as in isolated cases, well,

i would like to believe that they are isolated, it is about our soldier tortured to death by a russian criminal, and we also see what is happening in the olenivka camp. yes, it is important to understand that international humanitarian law prohibits four main things, yes. they are a list of what cannot be to shoot is transfused, why you can't shoot and the actual place of receiving any prisoners of war or civilian prisoners there are usually included in the same way as hospitals, schools, cultural objects, religious objects and in addition two huge categories for the various geneva conventions, they describe in detail how to deal with civilians who find themselves in

the combat zone and the last one is very important. vlad is actually in the conflict in this case, the example of the azov people is the example of our soldiers who were in the hospital in and there is one of the crazy cases . shot dead when russian troops began to control the entire territory of mariupol , that is, all these are really agreements, and the agreements were enshrined in the geneva conventions a long time ago . remember that these are all gentlemen's agreements, which means that when you have a gentleman on the other side, well, roughly speaking, you're a scumbag, and the question becomes how much this agreement is capable of holding him back

human rights defenders and ukraine actually proposes another mechanism to create a new, only form of protection against such gopniks is to make them really evaluate their actions with the help of courts, and that is why ukraine proposes to create a separate tribunal that will consider the crime of aggression, that is, the whole russian system an aggressive policy that led as a result to victims on the territory of ukraine to i don't know the collapse of our economy to all those losses that are being suffered now, in which there will be, but the tools will be such that you and i will actually create, in fact, the un has only three forms, how can they react, and again, these forms are contractual, it must be remembered that there is no supra-governmental world parliament or government, it is

an agreement between equal parties, but some believe that it is more equal, and this is the russian federation, but there are three mechanisms - this is actually exclusion from these processes and excluded on the basis of some legal decisions, and the second is economic mechanisms, and please note that the un actually did not impose any sanctions on us, there is no full-fledged embargo on e-e on the russian federation. until now, we we are focusing on those sanctions that were either individual countries or directly the european union , yes, thanks to the agreement and the third - this is already a military intervention in a different form, there are several forms, there are actually, well, these are what we call the peacekeeping contingent but it also has different tasks, it is possible to be a police mission, it is possible to be a mission. well, for example, i am now

in kosovo. there is a mission that maintains security directly, and in this way, what form this mission will take also depends on the activity of ukraine i would very much like ukraine to remember that she is the founder of the un, she is our kharkiv lawyer, one of those who drafted the universal declaration of human rights, that is, ukraine is not only a victim here and is not, well, if by receiving aid we we have to be subjective and we have to propose new mechanisms because as you can see with regard to the hybrid warriors that are now spreading all over the world, they don't work. so we have to propose new ones, we have to be a proactive gentleman who offers new ones to help. so we we understand what a huge problem we have, we are talking about the access of international organizations and ultimately any humanitarian organizations to the prisoners who are received in the olenivka concentration camp where a

lot of people were killed, we understand that russia is now trying to trace mr. vitaly, are there any tools in this particular terrible case i i completely agree with oleksandr, both in the context of this text and in general, unfortunately, he is not the only one , it is not the last. as an owner in the courts and in the access investigation bodies as well as in the international arena, let's say, articulation, collection of evidence, proper presentation of them , the use of those mechanisms that are available to all mechanisms, despite their formality , what we started talking about is obvious inefficiency and not the work of these institutions at the

highest level, what are we talking about some organizations, if the united nations has its charters in the most critical situations that are happening now, i mean the events around the nuclear power plant is a matter of managing humanity. and you are an institution with, in particular, a colossal e-e on the magate budget. she simply removed herself from this process and the secretary-general makes some stupid statements and advises both sides to refrain from what active actions is this savagery, this is actually some cycle of the film don tulukap is real where it is not indicated the ability of humanity to solve its serious problems in relation to, in your opinion, would the position of ep guterres be somewhat different if the ukrainian state did not

resist aggression, well, that is, i just want to understand at what point is our resistance? in the end, in such statements, we are obviously equated with the direct aggressor, and why is this happening? it is difficult to say what is happening in the heads of international officials, and i was just trying to politically correctly emphasize the idiocy of the situation, that is, the obvious inconsistency of the actions of a person in independence with his political ones there what beliefs does he like ukraine, does he not like ukraine, does he think that ukraine is conducting russia or not, now the question in the context of the nuclear issue is about the survival of humanity, and specifically there, you are already portuguese europeans from the country that this guterres presides over. in other words, this is a responsibility not even

conditionally to ukraine or to the international ones who are obligated, but to their own citizens . i'm trying to emphasize the idiots in general, the ignorance of the words, the reactions of the bureau in the room, things that are happening , actually. i would also like to pay attention to the work of colleagues from cnn, who actually systematize all these studies. i don't know how deep they can be considered taking into account the fact that there is still no access to the crime scene in the deer park and it is not known when it will appear, but colleagues summarize that it looks like russia resorted to provocation and their russian statement about

shelling from ukraine is an absolute fake we are constantly being told that we must draw attention to the situation of the problem with our hostages , prisoners of war, and their actual public mass execution in a deer park. now we have managed to draw attention through the world's such powerful media . process which is related to ensuring the rights of our prisoners of war in the occupier, mrs. oleksandra, in fact, that's the only way we can do it. i just want to appeal to all the people who call themselves journalists in this world, respect journalistic standards, and i just want to remind you that without you ani democracy ani a normal legal order in the world is impossible and if you work for

cinema in the indian republic or on i don't know there, a malaysian tv channel, it means that you have the power and the opportunity to show in reality well, what because when the russian federation is already, well , i'm sorry, i've messed up so much, you can't miss this moment, you have to find all possible ways to get there on the spot and film everything that 's happening there. it's clear that the russian federation will never let criminologists or independent ukrainian investigators go there. well, that is, because it’s real, as far as i’m concerned, it’s no less than silver. it ’s easy to take it, repair a new case, transfer it there, and two days before tearing it down, it’s just people you hate and make this is public, well, this is such a level of cynicism that i, well , will be studied in textbooks, and you and i are responsible for the fact that despite the fact that the

russian federation is trying with all its resources to create a virtual reality in which this did not happen or is completely dependent on ukraine, we and you we have to be those people who are documentaries, journalists, and everyone who makes asymth analysis, everyone who can has access to satellite images. well, we live in a period when you can't hide anything, the main thing is to know where to get them if the information well, it’s a great pity alexander, we understand that those who want to see, those who have eyes see, those who want to hear, respectively, hear , that is, i think that a sufficient evidence base has been collected in order to imprison the higher russian leadership for a term of about 125 thousand years and put them in the deepest recesses of hell, but we have few tools, although it is possible. i would like

to believe that there are some non-trivial steps in order to make life as difficult as possible for them. uh, the institutions work, but uh, ours, unfortunately, those who are currently engaged in this in ukraine do not fully use all the opportunities that are given, well , in particular, the same meryn conventions, in particular , the protocols to them of the year 77, i mean, for some reason it is not clear for me, there is absolutely no communication. well, there is no public and it is not clear about the formation of the institute in accordance with these conventions of the patron states of the ukrainians, it is conditionally by mediators who should be in just

such situations, in particular, with the parallel, that is, and control the movement of prisoners of war, let's say, and possible training on the territory of the patron state, this is briefly about the question of a possible solution to what happened in mariupol , then they didn't even talk about it, and this, well, you can't demand, he's such a scoundrel, his name is steven seagal, that is, de facto, he is accomplice of criminals who keep our prisoners of war in inhumane conditions, torture them, kill them, and accordingly, how can it be done so that everyone is naked , not that it is uncomfortable to travel somewhere outside the borders of the russian federation, but that he feels for himself different institutional instruments, so to speak. well , because he is not a citizen of russia, it may be

that not only segal was there, there were henchmen of russian non-humans who have the citizenship of european countries. things, this singing is actually a crime if it is documented, then there are no problems with this person or any other person who is available for the jurisdiction to be disguised with textbooks or dividers, so to speak, in the legal sphere of russian non-humans if possible, if possible, i will simply add that in fact i, even if this legal

plane does not exist now, but we can create it, let's remember that before the nuremberg tribunal, the third reich actually did not break any laws and because they did not exist, they were created in fact, that is, in this conflict, those who support propaganda and those who implement this zombism are simply unrealistically important, because of which 100 million people in the russian federation actually support terrible things and justify them, and our situation in a concentration camp held by the russians where they torture and kill our citizens, soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine, the national guard, and so on. people with european passports came. are they citizens of the european union? do we have any mechanisms to bring them to some kind of powerful moral responsibility? i don't know. simply is there

any other legal mechanism, a legal mechanism can be if they will directly do what is prohibited, that is, if the next package of shares will include i do not know the ban on europeans to appear on the territory of the russian federation, this will be a direct legal mechanism, but all legal decisions are preceded by the actual well, what you said is morally, er, public assessment and they should be uncomfortable, they actually have schemes now, after all, those people who support ukraine and it is so by voters in european countries, in addition, there is universal jurisdiction, this is the opportunity to open cases of international crimes against others on the territory of other countries. currently, 10 countries have opened cases in their own national courts regarding those international crimes which are happening in ukraine and in it is quite possible that if mr. segal comes to velenivka to do well, there must be

some specific action yes, to do some kind of phenomenal pr or justification of this terrible crime, then the us court will finally, since he is a us citizen, be able to take this kate into its own to a lawyer, but there must be us citizens there, that is, our diaspora, for example, who would apply to the court with such a request as, for example, in canada, the diaspora applied regarding our turbine well, regarding the nord stream turbine thank you thank you oleksandra romantsova, executive director of the center for civil liberties and vitaly titych, human rights defender, managing partner of the bar association. thank you for your work, at least on the air of the espresso tv channel, let's move on. 10:00 53 minutes . the situation with the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, which the enemy is

constantly shelling, accusing us of this, is also very interesting. the statements about mining were also interesting, and it is also necessary to understand that the city is a satellite of the soviet union. energodar with a large population, what is the situation there, we will ask dmytro orlov, the mayor of energodar, mr. dmitriev, we congratulate you glory to ukraine heroes, glory to the good day what is energodar living today, is there panic or concern of the local population, taking into account the critically a-a critically complicated situation with security on the we see that your colleague, the mayor of melitopol, is calling for a green corridor in order to bring at least judytkali to the city, in order to ensure that nothing local is happy the population from radiation emissions, so it is true that the last week the occupiers have been behaving quite uh actively and are constantly firing mortars uh, this is confirmed even by the local population that the time

between 3 minutes, two or three seconds, i'm sorry. that is, it means that, from a kilometer of two well, a maximum of three kilometers , the shelling of the adjacent territory of the nuclear plant and the territory of the city and the territory of... cooperatives are already affected. unfortunately, there is destruction of the infrastructure among the local population, and we can also already record that as a result of the shelling, part of the industrial facilities of the nuclear plant, which ensures the operation of the facility, have been damaged, and we can also state that the infrastructure of the city has been damaged. for a few hours, the city was left without electricity and without a gas supply and

drainage system. it has not been more than a month, or the occupiers do not allow the repair crew to carry out repair work at the central gas plant. we have the result of the shelling, which actually remains a city from europe on the verge of a humanitarian disaster, this of course leads to panic in the local population and the station employees, and they begin to leave the city en masse or realize that actually security is probably the most valuable thing they are taking their families out. well, somewhere we have information that somewhere around half of the city's residents. if the total number of approximately 53,000 people lived until february 24, then now half of the city has already left there are not many people left in the controlled area and the place, mr. dmytro, you mentioned that some adjacent buildings or some

related ones were destroyed. i don’t know the premises of the nuclear plant , what exactly is it about, and i wanted to ask you about the approximate state of the nuclear waste storage facility. well, as for the storage facility then we can only say from the sources of the official or semi-official occupiers that they claim that they mined nuclear facilities, including storage facilities, dry storage of spent nuclear fuel there is no official confirmation of this. unfortunately, there is no information regarding the destroyed infrastructure of the enterprise. we saw a few days ago that the nitrogen-oxygen plant that supplies all the power units with the appropriate substances is damaged and of course this does not give peace of mind and allows us to talk about the fact that further explosions can fall into more significant

, let's say, energy objects and this cannot lead to, for example, fires or the leakage of some radioactive substances, the power supply of the gift of which you just mentioned was interrupted, but how is the power supply of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, that is, if the power goes out in energodar? as far as i understand, there should be some kind of power supply at the nuclear power plant, how much is it enough ? i know one thing or another, we also don't know what the reasons are, maybe it's also related . well, as for powering the city and powering the nuclear power plant's own needs, these are quite different things, because the nuclear power plant produces the power on e-e lines of power grids is 750 kw, that’s enough. well, high voltage as far as the ato of the city

is concerned, the substation is better, which is the project they are talking about , which was damaged, one sfas was cut off, the voltage is 110 kw, that is, these are completely different networks, they are intertwined, of course, something somewhere through e-e substations and switching devices through a thermal power plant that is currently not working e, but as for these power grids that have fallen e-e and those that go to the city, these are quite different things of power supply and energy supply of a nuclear plant as far as i know, it was not lost in all these events and the provision of its own needs, and now the nuclear power plant works in the unified energy network of ukraine and works synchronously with the european system. that is, it does not give electricity to russia, as they had such intentions to do they themselves, with connections, are very

short to the station, in what mode are they currently working and under what conditions? they didn't let the staff rotate during the day, they blocked their departure from the city for a while, they blocked the opportunity to change the staff, and after three or four hours, they unblocked this process and the staff who worked for eight hours a day uh he had to work more than 12 hours ago the situation is unstable and the staff of course it can't uh well leave it alone it can't leave people alone thank you for this inclusion and for the information