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joins us for the season political scientist fighter of the armed forces of ukraine kyrylo i congratulate you i am glad to see you again good day good health see here president volodymyr zelenskyi called on representatives of the government and the military not to divulge details on defense and what plans we have in this regard, and deputy minister of defense hanna malyar reported that the security service of ukraine is investigating the leak of important military information that occurred during an interview with the ukrainian military a high rank, this quote was the day before major general of the armed forces of ukraine dmytro marchenko in an interview with rbc said that ukraine will liberate crimea by military means and the destruction of the crimean bridge is necessary for this measure well, even before that we discussed the interview of general kryvonos, he criticized the personnel policy of the president's office and said that they affect the military and, in particular, with regard to special operations forces. nothing can be

said, is there really a construct here and where to find a balance, the logic is, of course, that, well , we must clearly know that there was something extra, so it is impossible, that is, we are not a civilian photo, even they understand that it is impossible to photograph arrivals, i am clearly military i know that uh, i can name the military units that , well, the brigade, the subdivision that are located somewhere, only those that have already declared themselves. that is, there are several very serious units in bakhmut that you are holding right now . but only 58 infantry brigades have declared themselves and i am happy to mention her to others, but we will not help the enemy, so especially if you are a military person, you need to be photographed very carefully, write very carefully, speak very carefully, because even a private can submit random photographs location and give direction to the enemy artillery what does it say about the officers, that is, you need to be very careful, this is absolutely correct, but i read the interview of general marchenko and the installation officer,

i didn’t see any military secrets there, that is, this is what we discuss in our house, that the game is discussed in the kitchen, yes kherson will be free, yes , most likely this year, no one will say for sure when the orcs will be, it is not interesting, we will spoil the surprise, and yes, they will not leave crimea themselves, they will have to at least join the armed forces, and this will actually be liberation by military means even if they run away from us, we will have to go there, that is, well, i didn't see any open secrets there, it was interesting, it was a pleasure to read it to the military generals who understand what he is talking about, but there were no military secrets and no toys i know that we are gathering in krym, mr. kirill, then why such a reaction if there were no secrets and it is now important for us to actually hear from experienced operatives and it is worth saying some negative points if the lives of many depend on this ukrainians well, you know what concerns the criticism of the

command, starting with how i criticize the company commander or the battalion commander or the brigade commander, and ending with how the general criticizes the high command or the military -political leadership of ukraine. questions with the company commander and i solve them in a conversation with him, i do not write posts on facebook, i do not shoot videos for the video here is my mouth or here is my combat , there are claims, well, if there are claims of a combatant, and something else is wrong, but after the exit, when we leave for rotation or leave for a break well, we discuss all of this in our circle, we discuss all of this with our commanders because there is no such distance as in the soviet or russian army, you are the boss, i am a fool, all of this is discussed, all of it, all of it, a friend of a friend hears everything normally, all adults, but all this it is done in a non-public way, because if i believe that kombat pod lysichansk, uh, did it wrong, made a mistake that led to casualties, then let it remain between us in the

order of discipline, we are a single organism. the country has a united army and we have no doubts. people should weigh it. we should raise it if we start to take our disputes to the public. it’s just that people will have a completely different attitude. they will give up their hands, so i think something with criticism is necessary. it is necessary constructively. people should listen to each other, but all this ustia remains , after all, we have all the big claims that have accumulated after the victory, we can take out the public plane now, one orgasm, mr. kirill well, what did she mean, who did she mean then anna is a painter, because she told a military man with a high rank, uh, then they say that the sbu is investigating the leak of important information. well, if we talk about marchenka's interview, you say that there was no important information, i watched kryvonos's interview. well, i was there too constructive criticism about the fact that we did not prepare when we were warned , i did not see any information secretly either. but this is

already persecution, or is it not about them? hotel, but what did they expect? what were we going to do? zelensky will run around frantically wringing his hands and shouting at us tomorrow, they will attack us. so i see it in a different way, someone even in a third way, that well, the racks are dispersing immediately now, in my opinion, it is not worth it, but kryvonos, after all, occupied the last position in the structure of the defense of ukraine, and perhaps now it plays the role of some maybe it's personal offense that you didn't seek it, that they don't take you , maybe it's like that, and there was an interview, i didn't see a particular criminal, that is, who is hinted at, i don't know, because she doesn't share such secrets with me, maybe it's about something else it was necessary, it was

said that i didn't notice it, but it wasn't worth it , but i would say the interview, i watched the crime, i did n't see it, not there, not there, yes, i just don't want it to turn into some kind of persecution , you know, because after all, i wanted to our villages where the tanks entered, they were uh well, even if a ground defense was formed and money from the budget was allocated for some elementary means of protection , then this did not happen and people came out bare-handed uh against the tanks, this is what we wanted the conclusions were very different indeed . unprepared people are not professional soldiers, but they defend themselves harshly, but you saw the defenses

that were sent to the east from other regions, which, as they say, took place. on the second day, they wrote to complain with the left. there is still god, forgive us, but we saw when we were going to be my family , the defense was formed literally on the last day. there were few weapons, there were few, and the guys who managed to retreat to kiev were covered by the armed forces, who did not managed to get captured, they were shot, that is, the last day of the defense was formed, it was started to be done in the fall, when it came to this, it prepares people a little to train a little, and as he showed again, we had not only a machine gun in our warehouses, even in our small towns we had a grenade launcher in we had flies, that is, well, this mass that came through gostomel would certainly have been stopped by the defense, but they would have put up serious resistance , and they were blunted in irpen. лучше то есть мы they stopped at my

sight." pensions now, who has the initiative, characteristically, does not want to fight categorically, they already rushed to lysychansk, uh, frivolously, only the new ones were brainwashed. i see that there are fewer and fewer new ones. and those who have already fought and the contract workers and the

sopy people there, they really don’t want to go on a direct collision. they prefer to sit with the franchise and throw slingshots periodically, they climb whole for the assault, the officers are already forced, and the younger ones are ahead, because otherwise the fighters are going nowhere, and here they climbed bakhmut for three days in a row, they were beaten very hard, and yesterday morning they again climbed there alive and by force for the assault again they left a bunch of people, they retreated very sharply, those who wanted to live, that is, they live, they do not lose their strength , they drive people into attacks, they do not want to, i see that they do not want to go, that they imitate attacks sometimes , that is, they actively only fire residential quarters with such a large number of dead civilians in the donetsk region are being shelled with pleasure in one day, i don't remember such a people that they are separate mariupol bombings 7 people killed 17 wounded 11 dead a day well, this is some kind of nightmare and this is only for civilians about military losses in our country are classified we will not talk about

them . since i don't remember it, they live in the same region, so that's the only thing that they are able to fight with civilians, to throw everything at you to avoid contact battles with professional troops, cyril of the season, i thank you, a political scientist and a fighter of the armed forces of ukraine let's go further and see what's going on in the donetsk direction well, ivan kyril already said that the occupiers killed seven civilian residents of donetsk region in a day, what is happening there, let's ask artem ruban , a fighter of the freedom battalion of the national guard, artem we we congratulate you. congratulations studio. congratulations to ukraine. we congratulate you too. let's try. if it's really bad , let's try. what's the operational situation

in our direction? it's so easy and wonderful to talk online about what's happening. it's concrete. because they are leveling our positions with the ground from morning to evening today, only four many times i went in, oh, some mortars, artillery is working, our positions were damaged by the unit and the national guard.

once again, our command is respected very much, i respect the states, we respect our armed forces, we respect the command, but there are moments, for example, the state is already working there, it’s sunday, we just put it to sleep at dawn, because you see, you don’t hear, it’s not working in the forest the cable is sleeping , please use the artillery, the number of bc is limited, give me a drone, as i confirmed, there can be a drone if he zelensky left, and so on, with an interval of a couple of seconds, that's it, those are the moments. you just wonder sometimes. we are guys, of course

infantry we hold and we will hold we have never complained and we will not give up on anything eh we came irpin-buchu rubezhnost severodonetsk lysichanske now we are here but if we say because the right work then well let's be honest yomayo if sent then ask that they knocked out titans and make it, why do you have a very bad sound, let's maybe try to dial artem ruban again, maybe by phone because well, i see that there is a serious problem that needs to be voiced. let's try to dial artem ruban, a fighter of the freedom national guard battalion

donetsk region, in the direction of bakhamtsia, the enemy tried to break through the defenses of the ukrainian troops, but suffered losses and retreated after that. they wanted to ask vertem in more detail what you said to the seasonal wing about the fact that the russian invaders killed seven civilians in donetsk in just one day. oblast and another 14 people were injured, mr. artema. i congratulate you once again. i hope the communication will be better. enemy aviation flew over us four times today , but they are working constantly. well, everything is fine, everything is clear about the aviation, but tanks are working there, the green ones are constantly asking us to destroy these tanks because something can be done with them, well, it just works, no, no, no

one has punished him, no one has ordered him, they just can't... our guys can't get to that tank. we can't get to that tank with our unit, it throws its canopy far away and we are constantly asking for the art to work on them or to send something, because they are sorting out the positions, just sorting out, i say today, we have three hundred, yesterday, three hundred, the day before yesterday, three hundred , and well, it’s simple. well, it’s also some kind of capets, if you can voice it, well, it’s the eastern direction. they know what direction it is, it’s quite a hotline, what do you have to fight back, or what do they say ? well, you see, it’s working. wait a little, that’s it. we don't see it. where to go confirmation of the drone, which drone can we confirm if it is in zelenka, we ask to burn the forest there is

nothing to burn the forest, so how many days do we ask to burn the forest to see zelenka with drones? situation well, i'll say it again. i think we have a lot of respect for our commands. we believe in our armed forces. we believe in our commands, but there is a moment when they will even be killed a little bit, and what will happen next is that we will have a lot of wounded guys today. we can't inquire about the forest, well , there is a problem somewhere. whom do you contact? actually , we are contacting now, well, if you said , i'm sorry, it boiled, but i respectfully say once again, i treat our command, but uh, i'm asking if well, understand the situation, we're never anywhere uh

they complained about nothing, we say once again that irpin bucha gostomel came to severodonetsk, the border of lysichansky is here now, but he can understand, let them understand us, but they are working somewhere, you see without orders now, and we all hope that our broadcast will be seen by people on whom decision-making depends, and this situation will be well resolved as much as possible artem thank you for announcing that the price is too expensive, you understand the price is too expensive because the guys are holding these scumbags with their own bodies, this influx that storms after the aircraft leaves the grady are constantly moving, the tank works without orders with minvets, then they try to storm our positions , it is clear that we are their parents here, but we are not made of steel either. well, if we ask to

get that tank, then i think well, we need to get that one yes, the dictates, so artem ruban, a fighter of the freedom battalion of the national guard, donetsk region, the eastern direction , please respond to the management. maybe somewhere at some stage, the communication simply did not work, maybe there are some other reasons that will definitely be resolved because, well, we said that you can, of course, it all depends on the desperation of people on their heroism of specific people, but if you take into account all the risks in time and if you don’t fry kebabs, prepare for a full-scale invasion, prepare ground defense and volunteer battalions at the level of tergromat, then the price of this victory will be much less than what we call on the people who make decisions in our country, we go further, we go around the regions maria chashka deputy battalion commander karpatska sich legion of freedom raisin direction maria i congratulate you

congratulations in the studio of ukraine, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes what is your operational situation in the izum direction, well, in general, in what direction are the positions held by our battalion of the carpathian january ivan svobody , in general, the situation is stable, tense, constantly, er, constantly being shelled, our positions are fired from artillery very powerfully, we can see now one minute excuse me we see how the situation is changing a little in the enemy we see how the rotation of their equipment and their manpower is happening we see how their battalions are changing tactical groups, and in connection with that, probably in the first place, in connection with that, a somewhat lower intensity of

attacks is taking place on the part of the enemy, but the number of anti-aircraft guns from our positions is not decreasing , and civilian objects continue to be shelled very actively populated areas that are behind the positions held by the child of the carpathian sich freedom legion, in particular, today, several settlements in the izyum direction were shelled, and literally about half an hour ago, there was a cluster bombardment of the city - artillery of the town of barvinkova on fortunately for the kyiv region, there are no victims, there are no cases . well, but the situation is quite hot and tense , according to military experts in the izum direction, the star forces of ukraine have an opportunity for contrast after the deployment of part of the russian troops to the south. do you see this opportunity now, of course? there is a

possibility of a counter-offensive, and it was there before, i see it as well, and now it certainly is, but it depends on many circumstances, it depends primarily on the presence of long-range current weapons uh, which will work simultaneously in the offensive, and when there are enough of such weapons, then the offensive is of course possible, mrs. marie, uh, at night there was a rocket attack, as usual, from belgorod, so in kharkov, uh, they read the registration and what is the situation in the nearby communities, did anyone else get hit what do you know about the consequences of the night shelling, well, there are no such tragic

consequences directly in the area of ​​the izyum direction, because of the rocket strikes that took place, but the missile danger remains very high, and we are constantly calling on people which civilians who live close to the front line , if possible, do not return here to your home and try to um, if you already stay here, do not neglect the air warning signals, the information about the missile danger, because we understand that after what happened after the events, after the loss, more precisely, what our enemy received in the last period. so, in the face of such global losses, they will of course be furious and will try, er, to launch missile attacks on the largest possible part and in the main focus will probably still be on administrative objects. that is why we need to be especially attentive and careful. what is the situation with the

local people now? because i am reading this, you are the prime minister and the minister of reintegration of the temporarily occupied territories in vereshchuk predicts that the evacuation will necessarily be not only in the donetsk direction, not only in the donetsk region, she says that the targets of russian attacks may be heat and energy facilities in parts of the city, cities and villages in the zaporozhye kherson and kharkiv regions may to remain without heating and electricity supply. how do you see this situation? how necessary is it to evacuate people now? there is a general such evacuation in kharkiv oblast. considering the fact that the danger of rockets is quite high and the enemy's long-range artillery is constantly working, those settlements are particularly close . to the line of fire must be freed as much as possible from the civilian population so that the military can

quietly do their work and not be bothered with such that it is necessary to take care and about the civilian population, therefore, if possible, it is still worth from the nearest population centers, after all, or to evacuate people, this is only and not only for their safety, but also to ensure the normal work of the military. desire or are forced to leave their homes, well, in the direction where our battalion is holding positions, most of the population who wanted to leave here left and only those people who categorically do not want to leave their homes remained, they also volunteer to help the armed forces and they are trying to fight together with us and with the enemy with the methods that are available to them as volunteers, however, and mostly still people

do not leave their homes, but stay to help and there volunteer help ms. maria, you have probably heard the institution of president volodymyr zelenskyi to the representatives authorities and the military not to divulge details about ukraine's defense plans, what do you think? if maria chashka is with us, i will remind you that there was such a call from the president, and the deputy defense minister, hanna malyar, said that the security service of ukraine is investigating the leak of an important military operation that was leaked during an interview with a high-ranking military officer. who is it? hanna malyar did not specify, but recently there was an interview with serhiy kryvonos and there was also an interview with dmytro marchenko. generals. therefore, it is possible . this is implied, but it is not specified. i would like to hear ms. maria’s position because, well, she

constantly joins us on the air, aren’t you afraid that you will spread some secret information, and how do you evaluate these appeals, is this screwing the nuts or is here constructive well, i didn't quite hear your question in full, the beginning of the question, because the president urged, uh, urged not to spread information, not to voice details about ukraine's defense plans to the authorities and the military, it's definitely very important . well, in any details, to be used by the enemy, that is why it is necessary to be very careful with regard to defense plans and, er, operationally, the situation, yes , with regard to election-defense plans, you will have to be very careful, ms. marie, maybe there are still some moments which you see on the spot and they are unknown to us and you want to voice them what are the moods among your comrades what is the situation among our comrades

morale is very high er we have an increasing number of volunteers who er come to us in our unit uh, we are ready not only as we are doing now, we are holding the defense and defending our land, but we are also ready at the very first order to move forward and free our land uh from the enemy until the moment until we completely clear it of our occupiers of course us more weapons are needed all the time, but in any case, as far as our people are concerned, how much do they believe in victory and are they ready to drive them out of our land? thank you, mrs. maria, maria chacha , deputy battalion commander, carpathian sich, legion of freedom, raisin, direction we are heading next , kherson's mayor's adviser, roman, head roman, i congratulate you. good day to you. good health . i'll see you soon.