question, but to improve in work internally by transferring persons, it was not the first challenge for me as a manager, because working as the director of the department of social protection in 2014, i actually did this at this school. i have already passed, we clearly identified the responsible persons directions of work with displaced persons, the main one was housing. we turned to the public sector, to the residents of our community, who have free housing, who can accept into their families, e-e families, internal premises of persons, and a lot of people volunteered in including religious organizations and well, plus, communal institutions added to the burden of the burden, and that is why it is practically not the same as practically . as they say outside, these buildings were also

full, in addition, we connected two schools, in addition, one of the protestant churches responded and created and maintained two hostels that are still working today. saw the video. these are the houses you got along with. i mentioned that these are video materials prepared by the ukrainian crisis media center. they work well with the program. and you. they also helped financially. well, this is foreign money. when our foreign partners promise us help, they do so. through such programs, it reaches them. these are the houses that have been built, they are already ready. how many are there and do people already live there? i want to say that we tried to solve all the issues ourselves with, let's say, international international, and colleagues who provided us with some humanitarian aid. but there are such things that cannot be solved without an international organization. for example, er. so, actually, if we were to say

about er, the completion of the construction of this health camp, dyvosvit is a communal facility that we have been reconstructing for many years and used for this, state regional development funds are state funds, but actually the war did not start the war, did not give us the opportunity to complete this project, and uh, the houses were practically ready, in every house there is uh amenities are a bathroom, these houses are approximately designed for 4-4 people, new houses, wooden houses are insulated, and actually there was not enough food block where people can eat, more or less landscaping was prepared by us, city council employees with the public or we went there and worked, but the equipment and furniture were problematic for us, and thanks to the program

, they bought the program well, they bought the equipment, they bought the kitchen, they bought furniture , lockers, beds, etc., in addition to the fact that sponsors joined our enterprises, in particular, the villages of ukraine to be a children's camp yes, it is a health camp that was supposed to work in real time, but it had to work faster because we needed to move the internal movement of the height of all educational institutions, they live there, they already live there, yes, they live there, but on their own food we help them, but they cook themselves. they live as if in a holiday complex. by the way, we have already resolved the issue with the executive committee regarding the provision of such services for any citizens who could rest there and rent for themselves houses so let's go and google it. vadym

boyarskyi, the head of the shum community invites you to his place for a vacation. and how many free places do you have there ? it will be like this, well, under the upper upper upper limit, but four people can live in the 19th houses, each family lives separately, so there are families of one person, and sometimes two people, three people, and there are free houses in you in your community there are already villages in the community, so many cities that in march, april, april, and especially april, there were not a single free houses in our villages , now they are certainly freer in our country. now there are about a thousand internal movements of people

. these people pay taxes to you. who live with you, or are they just visiting, and they pay taxes at their place of previous residence? people don’t pay us taxes. and if they don’t register with us as entrepreneurs. we have registered entrepreneurs who already live in us, who have already become natives of sumy, who have already opened this business here and already pay taxes, but at the beginning of the war, you know, there was some population panic, we called on all enterprises , including small and medium-sized businesses, not to close down anywhere we managed to preserve this situation so that it is agreeable enterprise no small and medium-sized business no one has closed down all are working and at first he and uh for today but the people who came to us are the people who additionally buy who additionally

they use services that are additionally employed in our enterprises, and therefore it feeds our economy. the more people, the better, because they are used by people who, uh, how much the budget has increased due to the fact that more people have become, well, people are leaving they buy something in the store and it also fills the budget. well, we have today, as of today, i can remember the general picture in general, according to the budget, this is 125% overperformance of the budget compared to according to the plan in connection with what it is in connection with that what to additional people have arrived and are working, and the second thing is that we have not stopped work once again, not a single enterprise from large enterprises has stopped inside and small business, in addition, thanks to the adaptation of land legislation, we are completely all communal land

agricultural production property was leased to the enterprises of entrepreneurs engaged in the cultivation of agricultural land in order for them to grow crops as much as possible, and the rent and taxes were paid to the local budget, that is, now you have about a thousand displaced persons have already decreased significantly. and how many of them, as you say, moved with the ends? as they say, they said we will live with you. well, i am not ready to say such statistics. you can see how many were re-registered, how many were re-registered, how do we say relocation, that’s how large enterprises moved, there is no such thing in our country, the shumsk mass plant, which did not work in 2014

, began in 2021, let’s say infusions investments of the shumsk community in the old oil factory, but it did not produce its own products, but actually during the war, at an accelerated pace with the help of the local authorities, this factory began to produce products, created more than 50 jobs and so that the oil returned to the market again - it is, by the way, quite good oil without any impurities - what kind of oils is this natural oil that we use exclusively from e-e produced from milk without any additives and competitive on the market because they are not more expensive than others and maybe cheaper e as for mr. vadim's new business where will you spend this 125% of the over-executed budget, what do you plan to spend other people somehow your

community participates in your processes and the distribution of wartime money, openness has the pre-war state, openness was number one . sessions before martial law, now the sessions are held, they are not broadcast online, unfortunately, but we work as openly as possible and, er, we try to listen to the opinions, er, of our community residents and spend the money where it is needed in the best possible way. as for over -execution, unfortunately, we will not be able to ask them for development, because the first thing is, because we have reduced subventions for education by 10 million, that is, by 10%, and we will see a lack of funds. to cover the wages and training of education workers,

because the subvention is money, just like kyiv gave for education. now you yourself will finance the payment of teachers and all issues if we turn to the regional military administration with proposals well, of course, from the ministry of education, so that there will be a favorable opportunity in the state for these funds to be returned, then, er, to the state, let's say the funds of the budget can be directed to development . such a community, please come shumska shumska correct yes territorial sumy community sumy community vadim boyarskyi is an absolutely open contact head of this community who works together with the community to be the most comfortable opportunities, i thank you , vadim, for joining our broadcast. i hope that in the

future we will also join in telling about our communities, because it is important, people, this is what is happening in our villages, cities. and this is the ability, because the vertical that was in the soviet union, that is in russia, it is something very fragile that can be broken at once, but you know like a broom, when there are many self-sufficient particles, it is practically not important to break it. - this is solely our responsibility, no one will come to us, no one will turn on the light bulb, no one will make conditions for us on the street, they will not sweep up the garbage on the street, they will not throw it in the trash for us, they will not put a new well, because the president does not see from the bank that your old well is damaged, that it needs to be painted, let's do it together uh, our life is uh, get along and we will understand that local self-government is our and your self-government, we stay in the processes, we join the processes in every village

, city, there is an administration, there is such a house there and people go to work, and we need to be interested in what they do it there, because they distribute our money with you, our budget, we go to the store, buy products, we work at work and the employer pays taxes for us, all this flows into the budget, this is our joint money with you, remember what margaret thatcher said, what about the state there is no money and taxpayers' money - it's us and you and it was a program of self-government my name is anna vale thread and we will talk about these topics with you on friday, join please write in the comments maybe you know some wonderful head whose communities we will include and he will tell all of ukraine his example. maybe you know some problems that are currently in some small communities and large communities and we need to talk about it so that everyone and those who make decisions know about it. maybe you know some cool people from small communities about which all of ukraine should definitely

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and now, with the experience and practice of using them, they will cause significant losses to the aggressor. we want to make a clear overview of what is most effective and most necessary in the hands of our soldiers on land in the air, as well as to repel threats at sea and today's issue we have dedicated weapons and equipment specifically for the defense of the mainland, this is the new himersi artillery, atgms and armored vehicles, as their capabilities are realized in the conditions of the biggest war in europe, my name is sergey zgoryce director of the information consulting company defense express, which, together with the espresso channel, tries to highlight the most relevant events in the life of the army and the defense of the complex. my interlocutors today are oleg katkov, a military expert and editor-in-chief of

defense express. of the special operations forces, i congratulate you. good afternoon, i will start with the first question. have characterized this war, it is actually a war of technology. is this, relatively speaking, a war of the number of soviet and post-soviet weapons, and what are the main features that can really be distinguished when characterizing these hostilities on land ? language, we have not seen this for decades. we have forgotten what a real, so- called high-intensity war looks like, and with the use of all types of weapons that only exist outside of conventional means, that is this has really never happened before, we are

seeing it for the first time and our fighters are really making history in relation to that mass of the russian horde that needs to be destroyed, which is fighting with the soviet union’s countermeasures, pressing precisely with the mass of equipment , but suffering from the same ones already in my opinion the view of the ojsc that refers to the army internally and from such a century, that is, a weak rear is disharmony, but all this is compensated solely by the fact that it is really a question of a horde that piles up and allows itself, for example, they do not have such a concept as a lack of ammunition and all because of that it is possible to find out such and such that the fire simply did not fight in order to simply squeeze out our positions and leave only concrete corrections from them , that is, such a thing. indeed, in the last ten years, nothing like this has ever happened, vyacheslav. what do you

think is the most demonstrative in this format of the hostilities that are being waged today between ukraine and russia on the ground itself, the russian army and the ukrainian army are the heirs of the soviet army , and what we are observing in a certain way refers to the soviet military school, that is there are large massive ones and so on. and so on. the russian army is a more powerful successor. it has more weapons. the ukrainian army is less armed. nevertheless, we see primarily from the ukrainian side, uh, probably no technological advantages thanks to the weapons that were provided to the new united states. states and other nato countries, and this is precisely what allows, let's say, a smaller copy of the soviet army to effectively repel the attacks of its large copy of the main heir of the soviet

army, if we say what happened today a certain stabilization of the front line, thanks to including the tactics of using certain weapons and the specifics of each type of weaponry, if they were to form a certain priority regarding the hierarchy of certain types that are used by accompanying troops or other units on the battlefield, how would you form it here in such a hierarchical order , everything depends on what stage of the war we are talking about, that is, even the second, third. well, we have to talk about the fact that you played a significant role precisely in the supply of weapons that were transferred from on the part of the allies, in a certain number, the same famous ufos, the same javelins, that is, anti-tank missile devices, and an exclusively ukrainian bestseller , which is waiting for him to be simply insanely popular in the world , and in my opinion, after our victory, it is the stugna missile defense system, together with other means and desperate

actions of the armed forces ukraine's word to carry out the cutting of those guts that dragged and dragged the army of the russian federation and how simply the minister of defense of ukraine announced that the russian pearls without forming full-fledged strike groups and this it became like this. well, because of this, it became possible, for example , to fire simply columnar e-e rashists e-e now, of course, we are talking about later e-e, starting from april, about the lack of projectile certain hunger in relation to the shortage of 152 mm soviet ammunition, the transition to 155 mm artillery, what kind of armored m37s these are western self-propelled guns such as the transcarpathian thousands with which we also received crabs in a significant number of polish ones . more long-range missile weapons that began to be

used literally days ago, that is, it grows exponentially and at every stage, every weapon that we received or already had in our arsenal played a more than significant role and allowed, in my opinion, to shape the pattern of war and not the enemy, that is, in fact according to you, i didn’t like rakhiv anti -tank artillery and heimers, here are three samples that, at the first and second stage, paint a picture of the battlefield based on our capabilities, yes, and of course, these are just separate elements of the general system of everything weapons and the entire general mechanism of the armed forces of ukraine, in principle, which should interact and interact extremely effectively, that is, we do not need to single out any type of weapon in general and consider that we got it there, this is a victory or we got it for him, well, in the future and it will be victory is a huge complex of measures and interactions of each individual branch of the armed forces of ukraine, in principle, in order to,

for example, carry out some kind of technical, for example , known information about what in order to inflict the attack on the saka air base, for example, it was necessary to trivially blind the radars and the anti-aircraft missile defense depot of the army and the russian federation, for which the gm business-8 harm was most likely used, that is, the launches were already carried out by the air force, the strikes were carried out by the ground forces, and the coordinates and other goals and organizations in general. maybe they introduced the power of the spice of operations there, that is, this is exactly the interaction of the general structure and the honed huge mechanism that works without interruption with extremely high efficiency vyacheslav , what do your priorities look like regarding how weapons were supplied to ukraine and how to rank them there for the first second third place based on the influence on the course of hostilities in the first there and in the second stage, so definitely you can agree with

mr. oleg that in the first stage when the russians tried to win the war with ukraine by blitzkrieg uh, a significant role was played by anti-tank missile complexes, ufos, such military-technological anti-tank means, grenade launchers. now, each tero unit has such a number of them that russian armored vehicles, tanks, combat vehicles, infantry, they simply change their tactics , they are afraid to get close to the ukrainian infantry and try to fire, well, at a certain distance , that is, anti-tank missile systems and disposable anti-tank rocket grenades, they have had a certain effect the russian blitzers also need to be equipped with portable anti-aircraft missile systems at this stage,

they are not the same effective means of air defense but due to the fact that there were a lot of them they not only caused and continue to cause significant losses to russian aviation, primarily attack aircraft and helicopters, and they also significantly affect the tactics of russian aviation, and this is us, i see with my own eyes and russian helicopters . base, that is, the efficiency of such air strikes is approaching zero, and this is such an important factor on which the russian air force made its bet, that is, it consisted of money for the re-equipment of army aviation, the purchase of new combat helicopters k-52 and mi-28n and now they also suffered significant losses and their efficiency is extremely low at this stage of the war, now that the front has stabilized, artillery played a really significant role, and here we can say that even an old

gun from the second world war to which there are outfits, it is much better than a more modern, more powerful gun for which there are no projectiles, therefore, here are american supplies, first of all, it is the m-77, which is called in our army three axes, and there are german self-propelled artillery installations er, french and so on, polish er, this is important not only because it is a high-tech weapon, but also because there are plenty of shells for them, and this is precisely what allows the relatively small number of such artillery systems to significantly influence the course of hostilities er at the front, and i see this again from my own experience, that is, these artillery systems and a sufficient number of shells for them allow you to

significantly influence the course of hostilities. level allows ukraine to influence the course of hostilities, but somehow you did an analysis of what vyacheslav says so with the general indicators regarding the amount of ammunition, what was the picture with artillery at the beginning of the war and the picture for today with regard to the supply of ammunition to nato standards and to the stockpiles of soviet hummingbirds that were in the ukrainian army, what can be said in this regard? yes, indeed, the minister of defense of ukraine, er, at the beginning of june, issued quite interesting information, which had exactly er the percentage ratio of soviet- caliber projectiles that were as of february 24 to those ammunition of nato samples that were received at that time, the difference was, according to him,

10%. that is, taking into account the fact that the data regarding the supply of 155-millimeter projectiles to ukraine is public, they officially discuss it at the pentagon and in, for example, the same germany , that is, all the countries that will give us some weapons there, they release open information, that is, if you conduct the information of these data there is to take into account 10% difference, then we conclude that as of february 24, ukraine had about 400,000,500 shells of soviet calibers 122-192 mm and 203 mm in total. us and warehouses of explosive ammunition, the fact that the production of projectiles was not implemented for the entire period from

1991, the fact that the purchase of these projectiles was still not carried out in the necessary quantity, it was as if we always had a lot of them. yes, and the fact that the use of active use of artillery with in the 14th year, new projectiles were also created. well, on the contrary, we only reduced the number of them. thus , in fact, in my opinion, somewhere even on the state somewhere in april, maybe there was such a situation when for a conventional one mm system of the type i don’t know where there are 20 or so cities, there would be 3-4 shells per day , that is, these are the numbers, and that is why they really worked, and god forbid that it would be just nato artillery in the caliber of 155 mm, for example. the same eh m-3 sevens they were transmitted relative to these open pentagons, they were transferred in the amount of 2,000

projectiles per community, and for example, why will we just take aid packages from the usa in the last two weeks? we received an additional 140,000 projectiles. that is, returning to the 400-5 million that were on february 24, vyacheslav what is the tactical difference between howitzers there are 3 sevens and more technological howitzers they are transferred on wheeled or autumnal travel for foreign production what is the peculiarity and what is more important for us there are three sevens or less the number of larger mobile howitzers well look in principle at in the active areas of the front, where there is active counter-attack, there is active counter-battery fire from the russian artillery, there the firing range is important, because the same crabs and caesars, they have

more data thanks to the longer range, and mobility is important because it is important not to stay in position for a long time, because it will fly into the answer to more m-m about those areas of the front passive here er-e m-77 howitzer is enough, the main thing is the presence of shells for it, that is, where is the russian artillery, which well, this is again what i observe on my own experience, it is quite inefficient in terms of hits, especially when it cannot afford to simply sow hectares of area with shells, that is, when its numbers on the front are also limited, then the russians can conduct an effective counter-battery fight , well, let’s say that they are not completely incapable, but their effectiveness in counter-battery fire is low enough here as well