caesar and they have a longer range thanks to a longer range and mobility is important because it is important not to stay in the position for a long time because it will fly in response to more shells to it, that is, where there is russian artillery, which well, this is again what i observe from my own experience, it is quite ineffective in terms of hits, especially when it can not afford to simply sow hectares of the area with shells, that is, when its number on the site the front is also limited, so the russians are not capable of conducting effective counter-battery combat, but the effectiveness of their counter-battery fire is quite low, and here the m-77s are adequate for the tasks facing

our armed forces, that is, for such areas, it is better to have more than three axes, the main thing is with shells for them than there is less number of high-tech artillery systems, there are caesar crabs and armor-havidzers 2000, so it makes sense to use them in the directions e-e or where the russian army is concentrating its forces and trying to advance, but either in those directions where ukraine goes into a counteroffensive and it is necessary to concentrate effective means of fire, and it is in such areas of the front that there is the best place for more technological artillery are there howitzers with counter-battery radars on the front line precisely on the ukrainian side? does this symbiosis work in real combat operations? yes, of course, the ukrainian army is sufficiently technological thanks to

adequate tactics and thanks to western e-e supplies of weapons and those means that help to effectively process e-e. as for counter-battery radars, they are used, but less actively, but the interaction between artillery and air means of finding the enemy and adjusting it works out by 147%, as they say, that is, a very effective symbiosis is obtained here, which allows the maximum effective use of those projectiles that stand out on the artillery system and allows the ukrainian artillery even when it is in the minority not only to effectively resist the more numerous russian artillery, but also to inflict significant losses on the russian army, and one more point, but to this i would like to add such a very important tool. it is not a

weapon, but it is difficult to overestimate it, it is the starlink system, which was provided to ukraine by elon musk. it is precisely thanks to this system that the ukrainian communications system, even under the conditions of the use of radio electronic warfare by the russian federation, allows maintaining electronic communication and control even at the urban tactical level by ukrainian units, including effectively correcting ukrainian artillery and then you can also add about the interaction with the nettle system, how effective it is better there starlinks of nettle, that is, correctors that work with artillery are used in the topic of nettle, this is what i see with my own eyes, and what is this so for our viewers, how to explain what nettle is in the ukrainian army, why it is extremely important, nettle is actually a program that we can put on a phone or tablet, now on a tablet, through which we

we communicate with you, i have installed this program that i use in our activities. that is, it allows there are uh topographic maps, there are satellite uh satellite layers, and the program allows you to calculate the necessary artillery calculations uh, to mark where the firing was, to transmit this information to the artillerymen and they are already carrying the appropriate amendments and girkaya. after several side shots, they begin to hit the targets effectively enough, that is, what previously took the team 57-10 minutes to prepare for the opening fire now takes much less than a second, that's right, yes, and the main thing is not only for opening fire, but also for adjustment, that is, artillery can hit me with a superior shot. and

it is important to notice those first hits, they told the gunners where they will go and then they have already adjusted their sights on the sights and started talking fifth oleg, the question for you is that there is artillery, there is a control system, but there are also high-precision guided are the ammunition adjusted, which previously the ukrainian army did not have at all, what is the effectiveness of these ammunition, what types do we use, what effects do we have from them? with them, the range of the repeatedly mentioned m-3-7 will be, if i am not mistaken, about 40 km, and if , for example, you shoot from it from a crab or caesar, then the range there already exceeds 50-55 km, and this is this is due to the fact that self-propelled guns have a barrel length of 52

caliber and in this entire section the projectile has a minimum deviation from the aiming point literally there in 1-2 m, that is, in. objects at a distance of up to 50 km, such objects can be both anti-aircraft positions behind underground complexes and, for example, headquarters and communication points from the rr station for clinical intelligence , that is, an extremely effective means for burning such a close rear of the russian army is also not confirmed, but it is most likely expected , accordingly, again, the pentagons of the pentagon e-e ammunition, which have such an environment, most likely, we are talking about the jk kits, which provides for the conversion of any 155 mm caliber artillery projectile into a high-precision e,

this kit is much cheaper than the excalibu excalibu idle there, according to different data, it costs about $100,000, and the pha kit is about 20 and it has a little more, so a little. i believe that the accuracy but in any case, it is about 5-10 m depending on the responsibility there or only satellite navigation is used. also, we use, in my opinion, extremely effectively, a rather rare but extremely effective ammunition called smart a-a 155, which is a 155-meter ammunition that already had supplies for destruction of enemy armored vehicles that have individual guidance, that is, for example, a moving column is covered with smart projectiles and this projectile throws out two misses with it, which are independently launched at each of their targets, and there are already verified videos

with the use of this system, when the same panzers are simply destroyed, for example, on the move, uh, hmm, well, that’s it, that’s it, so far, the triad, if we ’re talking about the artillery projectiles, uh, then they have already proven their maximum effectiveness, in my opinion, because again it is necessary to understand that if we take the soviet instructions, then it is for the destruction of such an object as a suitable support point, i may be wrong, but there the children are talking about about a thousand shells of 152 mm caliber, and in order to destroy this diversionary support point, that is, to strike if we use high-precision ammunition, then we will be talking about 5-10 such ammunition, therefore it is even possible and economically more profitable to use high-precision ammunition at times, because it is not only or a smaller

number of shots, that is, less than consumption of the resources of the barrel and the gun itself means less time to complete tasks, i.e. our gunners will be able to fire faster and leave the target area using high-precision ammunition in order to avoid counter battery combat of the enemy, we call the ranges of one or another system, i think that the audience is not entirely clear from the point of view of what the enemy has. so if, er, vyacheslav, you can compare some er, russian regular howitzers with capabilities of these new atlerian achievements of ours, why every kilometer is important and what advantages we have in terms of range, can you tell our pencils a little, a little short remark about high-precision ammunition, again, from our experience, the battles in which we took part there are actually several high-precision projectiles that could be used on several targets and could radically change the course of these battles, that is, those high-precision

ammunition are extremely important, because they really allow you to knock out the enemy's key targets, destabilize his positions, and then the battle will develop more successfully, as far as the range is concerned, the main artillery system if we are talking about the barrel artillery of the russian army, it is the self-propelled howitzer 2 with 19 m stas and its towed version 2a 65 m would be, in addition, they are older systems 2s 3 acacia e-e d-20 i think theoretically there are on our part of the front, i do not see them but it is possible that there are already e-e second particles of the second echelon in some e-e so-called lpr dpr they can also be like that if we are talking about old artillery systems, then their range is 17 km, if we are talking about new artillery systems, a conventional projectile is 25 km, actively reactive 29,

if we are talking about modern nato self-propelled artillery systems, then it is already 40 km. that is, this is already a significant gain in range and firstly allows our artillery to hit the enemy's position at a considerable depth, that is, such a safe rear for them is far away from the front line, or vice versa, if the enemy has a significant advantage in the number of firearms, this allows our artillery systems to work from a safe distance and the enemy to somehow introduce effective contraband the fire must be brought up to the artillery systems directly to the front line, where they can be hit by less long-range systems e. remained from the soviet armina from there are some even mortars if they go close enough along the front and also need to be noted if we

concentrate now on 155 caliber, there is also 105 caliber now great britain has started deliveries of light artillery systems l119 not 105 mm obukhova cotton wool is also extremely the artillery system is important for our army because it is extremely mobile, it does not require a significant investment of time for deployment, it does not require heavy tractors, that is, it is important that this caliber was once the main one in nato then they switched mainly to the 155th caliber 105 and left it to light units such as the airborne forces, so uh, in connection with the fact that nato countries can have a lot of shells for these guns, so the rearmament of our army on wholes and guns uh, it would also be quite expedient , that is, great mobility and a sufficient number of

shells, well, this is an interesting observation, an interesting comment , but now, relatively speaking, the russians now on the front line with ukraine have about 1,500 years of creating artillery of the same caliber in our country if you take into account the arrival of aid to the chest of the west, conditionally speaking, we have 400 large-caliber 1500 and 400 howitzers there, but they have a larger number, more shells, but less range, we have a smaller number of e-guns, but more powerful ammunition and a longer range. can we talk about that that in this way can somehow balance this russian advantage. what conclusions would you draw , oleg? well, first of all, we must mention the fact that for a month now, at a distance of approximately 70 km from the front line in the russian federation, constantly ovvavovna is so beautiful, i say, and this has ceased to even be a news story. in the morning, the

list of news is opened, and there again someone, some, there, a warehouse of the eurovision song contest by fascists took off into the air. what does this mean ? it becomes important how many guns the enemy actually has, if they have shells, deception is possible, that is, it is possible. well, there is simply such a way as to reduce the impact of the enemy's artillery by leaving it without ammunition, that is, abstractly, they may have 2,000 barrels, but shells for these 2,000 barrels only 100 that is, well, and uh, well, everything stands up exactly how much of this scrap metal they have, and considering the fact that the strikes are systematic and exactly according to the ammunition warehouses , mmm, they are brought in regularly. that is exactly the idea of ​​our general staff, which is to deny the advantage of the enemy in artillery systems it is precisely because of the creation that there is a lack of ammunition. well, of course, we must

take into account the fact that uh , in the bracket-bi of the russian federation. we can destroy the same warehouses at a distance of about two hundred kilometers, a verified case in genichesk, eh, there, the range from the launch areas should be approximately 220-250 km, eh, a case from the saka air base, and in the end, in any case, even if they carry certain warehouses with ammunition at a distance of 150 km, abstractly, this doubles the burden of logistics, the delivery of these shells to the front line, that is, requires more than twice the transport, twice the capacity of the warehouse to return these ammunition, and taking into account what is there there is no mechanization, everything is just manual work, so it is simply a big burden on the logistics service of the russian federation, which is

relatively simply historical, well, historical realities, in terms of metallurgy, the service of the russian army is the weakest link in principle, vyacheslav says oleg how would you now describe the use of himers, because we gradually moved to them, realizing that artillery is artillery, but there are options of such a high-tech level. demonstrated combat operations in ukraine regarding the use of farmers, were there any or were there any such highlights that distinguish one from what was previously in the american army or before this model of weapons, we understand that the american army did not face such an adversary as our army, that is, an enemy which outweighs it numerically, and therefore the american experience in the same is the use of its armed forces against a more powerful opponent, of course, to face a more

powerful opponent. we are looking for ways on the one hand, they would allow us to use these weapons as effectively as possible. and really, mr. oleg is absolutely right that artillery is ammunition, if the artillery does not have ammunition, then it does not matter how many guns you have, because ukraine has found these weak links of the russian military machine and is knocking them out now warehouses with ammunition, er, power points, concentration of troops there, er, repair facilities, and so on . on the other hand, we need to preserve these limited means, then we had a practice of using hi-mars, it is enough of a guerrilla type. that is, we cannot afford to stand in some stationary positions

and methodically shoot targets there in the reach radius, that is, ukraine first of all very effectively chose targets for of these systems, and secondly , it uses these quantitatively limited means as effectively as possible in order to turn them into an element , if not of the strategic level, then of the operational level. yes , precisely because we understand that the russian army as er, the heir of the soviet, it has the main type of ground troops - it is the artillery of artillery batteries in russia, more than motorized rifle companies, how do we take mortars, anti-tank howitzers , etc. and so on and in connection with the fact that artillery depends on shells and when it remains unmanned, it cannot, uh, act effectively, it cannot act effectively, the russian army falls into a trap because it clears the path of the infantry of the armored vehicles with its barrage of fire from the usual artillery. and now this

is happening less effectively. we cannot say that the russian artillery has completely lost its potential . no, of course, no. is it significant enough? but this already significantly affects its capabilities and, in turn , the ability of the tank e-e units there to take advantage of the results of artillery strikes in the donbass. we see the most relief means after the fall of lysychansk, russian successes, to put it mildly, are insignificant during a rather long period of time, if we had received hammer son a few months earlier how do you think that severodonetsk and lysychansk would hold out, maybe i can’t tell you that, because you understand that this is the result of the battle for donetsk, which vysychansk is the result of the influence of many factors, and i can’t say unequivocally that if we would have had hymers, we would still have held out, but the chances of

getting it would be more. but you made calculations about how many high-precision projectiles are released by those hammers that we have, and you were a supporter of the thesis that actually the launchers that we have are quite enough for us. and actually confirmed the theses of the deputy minister of defense of the united states of the allied states that the systems that are in ukraine are enough for them, tell our viewers what they are based on. so, relatively speaking, conservative approaches to the number of launchers, because our city defense says that we need 50 launchers, and ideally 100 well here it should be noted that i did not talk about it, there are enough of them, and the fact that there will hardly be more of them, that is, we will be forced to work with what was given, that is, whether it is enough or not is solely in my opinion the moment of analysis the general staff, which creates the need for

uh, why are we faced with what we have? here is such a number, which according to public data is a little more than two dozen, and the pedagogy has already announced that in the near future additional haimars uh there will not be a minimum of a significant number. the fact is that the total launch of the m-270 haimarstva systems. it now consists of a selection of 168 missiles. this is taking into account that the online 270 has twice as many packages of 12 missiles as the brakeman from which the missiles are silent. thus if we let's take the monthly requirement, for example, that each of the haimartians also does not make n-80 at midnight . just one full salvo per day, then we will get about 5,000 rocket jamal shells, which should be used, just to understand, in just one month, 5-4 years at the same time in sheep locketmart

is the largest company in the world that produces, including, jamalaryst missiles for heilmars. it has a capacity of 9-10 thousand such projectiles per year, in total, at the level of 2020 or 21, 50,000 were produced of melireans in general, that is, it is clear that we are definitely limited to a certain number of shells per month and if they are objectively, if we cannot release, for example, more than 5,000 shells, then, well, we will simply not be given additional systems, because ours will also stand - well, without work, that is, without shells, it will be the same situation that why do you need a weapon for which there are no shells in principle and under these conditions eh, hm well, the only chance is to use them at a 24/7 pace with

constant maneuvering of switching between eh- is operational areas of the front, i.e. using them in the most effective mode, i will just take a breather and that's it, but explain to me then what kind of trick poland ordered 500 gamers, 500, that is, what will it do with them, based on the calculations that you said before that well, there is a possible aspect they, and the poles, this is an extremely important feature that should simply be borrowed and done like them, when they purchase any weapon in sufficient quantity, they localize its production in poland, and in general for them, this is the main condition in general for the purchase of their weapons in relation to high-marts, most likely they will also localize their production, including missiles, well, there is another aspect, we use high-marts as a profession at the level of a tactical missile complex, and in fact, this is a system that involves the use of conventional

jets unguided projectiles from a distance of up to 40 km, that is, a kind of hurricane, due to the high cost of this system for ukraine and the fact that we use it precisely as a long-range, high-precision jet system, we roughly moved it to the cemetery if you compare it like this, then the hi-mars, which hits only with rocket-powered conventional projectiles , is a hurricane. and with high-precision jamalaris, it is an alder, that is, most likely for the poles, the purchase of exactly 500 eimars is, in general, the purchase of universal launchers because there is another important aspect of the haimar - it is a universal launcher . it will launch - it can launch both unguided active projectiles and jamal features and ballistic missiles atakams, and by the way, there is already an opportunity to use it to launch such missiles as anti-aircraft aim 120, that is, you will close this launch standard for all this, it provides for

the possibility of integration of other missiles, which is also what poland is betting on. do you think that only heimer is possible in general, precisely with the transition to more powerful long-range missiles and considering what it is the silver bullet series of the ukrainian army of your assessment well, of course not, that is, it is an important element that directly affects the course of hostilities at the front, but still, the main burden currently lies on the ukrainian infantry on the ukrainian armored forces on ukrainian artillery. that is , the kaimars is the means that will allow the troops to act more effectively at the front more quickly to destroy the enemy, but

we will not win the war with haimars alone, and there is such an aspect here. so we understand that we have a limited number of pieces, so a limited number of ammunition for them, and there is such a moment that there is a certain limited number of worthy targets, because it is not possible to destroy several large ammunition depots of the russian army there every day that there can be so many of them and not be scouted and they can distribute them to smaller ones, that is, to hit the same composition, let it be there 70 km from the front line, first we need to find it, and here the question is to what extent and the means of reconnaissance there are satellites, what if we we are talking there about assistance from nato countries by other means, agency intelligence

, and so on. and so on, how clearly all these means of gathering information allow you to identify targets against which it is appropriate to use heimers because, well, somehow there it is inappropriate for an infantry unit to fire such a rocket. although if there were a lot of them, it would be possible , by the way, then we could win the war , let's say, with one mikhail, together we destroyed all the targets that we see against, we have a front line, but we understand that this is not visually fantastic, therefore there must be worthy targets for himers, and we need to find a waist, we have two minutes left. the next program, and now briefly summarizing. please tell me what you think about the strikes on crimea, what was it olezhe, what do you think we destroyed russian planes and objects, he can only

repeat the most likely options. at the stage for 21 years, according to the statement of the minister of defense, and rana was already 80% ready, that is, we had 1.5 years to prove that the development was actually the third option - it is a modified neptune, this is indicated by the fact that the saka airfield is a target is close to the sea and in fact the development of neptune for the destruction of ground words was also carried out eh and there remains one more real option - this is the action of special operations forces, at the same time it is possible to exclude all kinds of kamikaze drones and bairaktars due to the low power of their explosives, for example, you only have a power there in general 50 kg, or in general, the mass of 50 kg of armored vehicles and he says that there is also a lot of explosives on it, and there are explosives somewhere at the level of, well, more than 200 kg. that’s right, and again, to the guests for this

conversation, unfortunately, time has run out, but we will return to of this conversation literally in a week thanks to you and our viewers, and i will remind the viewers that we are your interlocutors oleg katkov e.e. chief editor of defense express and vyacheslav tseluyko military analyst now a serviceman of the special operations forces follow our programs on the espresso channel i congratulate this andriy yanitsky tv channel espresso news of the economy during the war if you watch us on the internet, please like the link send to your friends like us more people will see us so mcdonald's returns to ukraine restaurants fast food chains will be opened in stages, establishments in the capital and in the west of the country will be the first to resume work, accordingly, the information was made public in the press service of the campaign, this

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