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the awakening of oil after the introduction of the eu oil embargo well, here, with all the delicacy of the situation, you know not to press hard, but also not to weaken your position regarding turkey's actions, or the latter ultimately failed, so to speak, to make sharp movements. so, against the background of the kremlin's probable support for it in ukraine, let's say china is a north-crean obvious game of turkey on the side of the kremlin including it would be a disaster of the games by a hair's breadth - the director of the center for middle eastern studies can join our broadcast just now. congratulations greetings. good evening. i reread the author's column in one of the publications on this very topic as an intermediary as a regional leader, and you are there. i am writing about the fact that with the help of turkey, the russian federation is currently trying to circumvent the sanctions there and the peace payment system. you mention the payment in rubles. for gas and the construction of oil processing enterprises
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, there are many other things, and what is the role of erdoğan in history in the war between ukraine and russia, how does he manage to balance, so to speak, between the collective action of the eu and the united states between russia and russia to the ukrainian issue well, you know, the problem is not how ortogan behaves, because he actually behaved in approximately the same way for a long time, but in the 19th year, we know that putin and irtugan agreed on syria and it was necessary to make certain concessions and they made these concessions to each other and most of these concessions were not very liked by the west, the states really did not like them there, they did against about about about certain sanctions were introduced in the end, erdogan buys
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putin's weapons, well, that is, the s-400 is known and many what else is he doing, so to speak, taking steps that cause serious concern on the part of europe, on the part of the north atlantic alliance, of which he is a member , by the way, but ukraine at that time practically does not react to it, that is, in fact, it is not so for us, well, it was not so painful, we continued to cooperate with turkey and everything was fine, even more, we replaced, replaced, er, hmm, western countries that introduced sanctions and as a result were able to strengthen their competitiveness on the turkish market, and here you are the military-technical cooperation but why then is the problem now the problem is that we have changed the situation has changed for us and we can no longer react to the
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policy that yaropogen pursued before we cannot react the way we reacted before because we are waging a war with russia erdogan has always maintained relations with russia and he has a long history of these relations, and what he says, the russian says to putin. he always says, we perceive this situation in a different way, it is simply necessary to understand and , so to speak, not to make a huge deal out of it tragedies, mr. ihor, and a little clarification. well , i can simply confirm your words by what actually guides erduğan in his actions both before and now. he is probably more guided by the preservation and development of national interests than his own interests in that or in a different situation, it does not matter who he cooperates with more. yes, in this case, the usa, nato, the eu, or russia, we are not just uh, there is such a thesis, well , turkish sociological data, yes, which companies there conducted and they note that uh, well,
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to the survey, yes, it means the turks, they say that turkey has no friends in international politics today, they have to be guided and they support the government in this and the government as a whole, that they should be guided by their own interests, confirm this position that they really have real friends no, and it doesn’t matter here for erdoğan with whom it cooperates today, russia , the usa or some other countries there and iran, etc. yes, unfortunately, yes, although even in the zero years, the politics of turkey was completely different, the slogan and the idea of state problems of its own neuros. that is, it was zero problems with its neighbors and, accordingly, the establishment of friendly relations with all the countries of the region with which turkey borders
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. this seems to be a formula that should reassure everyone, yes. that is , it means that if we work with turkey on the basis of understanding their interests, relying on our interests, then by and large we can find a certain balance. i actually want to add to everything a problem that actually arose in the context of ukrainian-turkish relations, the fact is that since the 16th year, ukraine has been building a separate ukrainian -turkish track, and this track was absolutely or practically not dependent on russian - the turkish track, and we were absolutely fine with it, but the problem now is in connection with the war, what is the so- called triangle, so to speak, which existed at one time, and which was often criticized in the relations between ukraine, turkey, and russia, which they tried to break. he again
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begins to take shape, and the first signs of this triangle appear precisely with the grain agreement, when the turks negotiate with the russians and then the ukrainians join in, and this is a danger that is inherent in that, because after this, the turkish leader and the turkish foreign ministry say that this is the first step, what now it is necessary to move on. and in essence, their narratives are not similar to russia, the same russians present this whole story. so this is the first step on their part towards the negotiated peace process, but erdogan took such a step in he gave the piggy bank of his victories, so to speak, as a mediator in such a large process, and in principle, well, he can be credited, i would like to know what i would like to end with, that you mentioned, i also mentioned about the bayraktars and about the possible construction of the plant here, there is a certain, well, such you know well, um, inconsistency, let's say so, of actions with
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reality, because well, look how the loyal attitude towards putin is correlated, we can recall the many calls and meetings that you mentioned that this is many years of practice and experience at the level of the ministry of foreign affairs at the level of the leaders, the same turkish company is building a plant in ukraine, for example, for the production of unmanned fighter jets of the latest model, by the way, by the way, they call him bayraktar raki-zelelma, something like that, the construction of modern production has been talked about for a long time. erdoğan's son-in-law is a person close to him. hmm, it means that not with regard to plans , with regard to specific intentions already at the beginning of construction , and even with a larger scale, so to speak, now we will hear a quote and continue with you. we have long-term plans for projects with ukraine. baikar has started building a factory there, a research center and an advanced production center where we want to produce all systems, not only the fuselage, but also electronics, software
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, everything we do here, our investments are already progressing. now we are without exaggeration for us this is very positive news in all parameters in terms of security in the component of investment support in general, you know such strong support of a nato member country such as turkey, and in moscow that at times, as i mentioned, they have already hurried to threaten the destruction of this very plant, because the press secretary of putin, piska, he mentioned just recently that this falls under the demilitarization of igor, what do you think? these are just empty threats. is the objective reality, after all, how does such a close friendship and mutual relations correlate long-standing ties with russia and turkey with such threats well, i will probably start with this idea in general in our country. well, i will build a plant, yes . and i want to remind you of the old latin phrase , the pact is a preservative, that is, agreements must be fulfilled and the agreement on military-technical cooperation
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was signed by zelenskyi and ertugal in february 22nd during the visit of ertuhal to kyiv, that is, in other words, the turks are exactly following all the agreements , and they should be given credit for that, that is, they, and until the last word, then khalok bayraktar himself ah, without a doubt, he repeatedly demonstrated support for ukraine. he, uh, it's just his, uh, certain actions, eh, we know that there is a free broadcast of a blow to ukraine by bairaktars, it was also very, very powerful , yes, although we understand that this is also part of pr companies and this is also normal, but what about the actual threats well, not the games, if you can, just one minute literally because we have another sub-topic for you , a minute to finish my thoughts i think that about the
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threats i think that this is it so to speak the words are the words that the russians couldn't help but say. yes, but hmm. well, i think that we are ensuring the safety of this enterprise. let there be one more subtopic, mr. igor, regarding these crazy heads and statements that are always echoing in the white stone yes. well , let's see at the beginning of august, deputy chairman to the security council of the russian federation, medvedev wrote such long- winded posts, do you remember that to georgia, in relation to kazakhstan, this means that these countries should be next after ukraine, because in medvedev's opinion , there are no such countries, but he deleted the posts of the same day, while the russians are trying their best believe to collect russian lands, other countries are changing their priorities, well, in particular, armenia, perhaps you can refute this thesis, but still, armenia is gradually breaking away from russia and is more oriented towards the eu, at least, well, the sociology center of soses gives more than 69% of respondents
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in armenia, in yerevan, in particular, those who prefer to limit yerevan's relations with moscow, and the nato bloc adjusts over the odkb let's say redugan gains more influence over aliyev at the same time and azerbaijan as a whole, and a number of agreements have been worked out between the countries , including by the way, in including the construction of the joint production of berkarts . tokariv and kazakhstan are reaching china, and moldova is logically grouped with romania. who do you think russia has an influence on ? lukashenko and this illegitimate president of belarus, although according to different versions there are ex-diplomats who commented on the position of lukashenko and belarus as a whole, and he does not mind finding a loophole in the bikiez of what is happening in general regarding the relations of various countries surrounding the russian federation in one way or another, they were closely connected with raya. what is happening now? well,
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i think that putin is toxic to putin's regime and other politicians feel it and try to distance themselves, that is, i understand that sometimes circumstances do not give them such unequivocal possibilities, yes, that is, economic, political connections , connections, the special service, the army, and the like, but due to their strength and capabilities, they are trying to do it. and the process actually shows a lot about these recent events. well, if you comment even on the european level which shows that there is a disappointment of moscow's position with moscow's policy because moscow behaves neither as a partner nor as an ally, despite the fact that armenia is making every effort to
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remain loyal to moscow, but we see that moscow ignores and practically surrenders to armenia, that's why it's not surprising that the population's position is changing, well, in fact, you mentioned armenia, i talked about it. yes , before, they generally considered the previous armenian presidents to be so pro-russian. let 's talk about dodonna in moldova, who was also pro-russian, and in general, in these countries of such a post of the soviet era, yes, russia tried for all these 30 years to maintain, well, such a massive maximum influence, but something somehow happened at a certain moment when the russians began to threaten everyone and everything and this from their and on their part, well, this step was wrong, but for some reason no one stops the same bear there, the other talking heads in the media mean that no one stops the technicians of these federal tv channels, does the kremlin not understand that with such rhetoric they push away everyone who is still left, at least yes around well, there is a rather serious
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opinion of high-ranking european officials that medvedev is an idiot, and that’s a little easier, yes. that is, we perfectly understand that he is just a hmm person who is used for hype, but without a doubt this this trend has seriously affected the views and the situation in the countries of central asia in the caucasus, and it has made many politicians think about what exactly and who is next? not just about the distance, but i tried to push away from russia as much as possible, that is, in fact, do you remember once in the 20s,
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there was a slogan in ukraine, get away from moscow, yes, it was a cultural gas, but i think that now, get away from moscow it becomes such general kerosene post-soviet proto-russian, you mentioned idiots, we just started this information hour with such a thesis and i admit that you will surely agree. whoever saw the destruction of society by idiots saw the colossal scale of social degradation , so it has already happened that thanks to these very talking heads and idiots in power, he gave the russian federation there practically after yeltsin, there were no changes, but this actually formed the society and the society that is today as a whole, the russian federation and the games. thank you for joining ihor semevolos, the director of the center for middle eastern studies, was just in this part of the broadcast. good night to you. good night. well, we continue for decades. the ussr tried to stick its nose in, so to speak, everywhere where the leaders of the union were not allowed to do this
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, in fact, then such opportunities, primarily financially, were much more than now in the of modern russia in the conditions of war and sanctions pressure, of course, the growth data is proof of the drop in the automotive industry by 80%, the remaining boeings, more precisely, squeezed out on the territory of the russian federation they are already being disassembled into spare parts, such a process has begun, uh, europeans are gradually abandoning russian energy resources, and as a result, a significant reduction in exports, a drop in gdp by 10-15%, inflation is about 20, respectively, the poverty line in russia is increasing by one and a half times, which is true, the obvious impact of sanctions will be felt by the russian economy before the end of 2023, such information is provided by a new study of the kyiv school of economics, the impact of the sanction on the economy of the russian federation in the long term will only grow, as
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export restrictions are predicted energy carriers-aggressor, however, the decline of the russian economy for 2022 has undergone an adjustment from 10-30% to 6 to 9.5 and the annual inflation rate has decreased from the predicted 20 to 12-15. the reason for such changes is high prices on the energy market and comments on the situation with the economic component of federation oleg gustenko i congratulate you, i am glad to see the adviser to the president of ukraine on economic issues. effective that will work in the long term, the agreement in the long term, uh, they will simply destroy the russian economy, and this
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is not even sanctions in many cases. and this is a change in the attitude towards russia and the russian economy as a place where you can conduct normal business the federation is currently cut off from the opportunity to apply technology, exchange technology, in their case, receive these high technologies, it does not have the opportunity to access the research market and research and development, it does not have the opportunity to do this technological equipment of its economy, and accordingly, if in the modern world you cannot do this, it means that even if everything were ok, then the economic growth of the country called the russian federation will be will gradually decrease and the situation will not be able to be corrected even after a ten-year additional
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period . dollars spent on defense, employees of the russian federation ca n't go on vacation, it's all for the front, and how will they accumulate it from teachers and medics , e.e., from constricted regions, from what? listen, we are dealing with you, e.e. significant problems, let's say the expansion of the state budget deficit is accelerating, inflation will occur, it is necessary to understand that in totalitarian countries, most of everything will be directed to the finances of the public finances, that is, what will not be observed by households , the population will be directed to the private sector the military-industrial complex is exactly where the effort will be concentrated, and as you understand. if
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such a plan is made, it works if the funds are directed specifically to the military-industrial complex. this means that at the same time, you must use additional funds for the punitive apparatus in order to suppress if there are any, even insignificant ones signals that there are some protest moods, that is , there will be no spare funds for this, the rest of the funds will simply not be enough, the trend is such that today russians are no longer worried about the so-called import substitution import substitution and western products of questionable russian quality, or something like that, is not quite a sustainable life all over russia, except for the central cities, and what is more embarrassing for them is that they will not be able to travel to european countries there. of the world with a call to ban the issuance of visas to russians, firstly, there must
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be a guarantee that the russian murderers , agents of state terror, will not use schengen , and secondly, the very idea of europe cannot be destroyed, our common european values, i.e. you can't turn europe into a supermarket where it doesn't matter who comes in and the main thing is that a person simply pays for these goods and what we have in fact, some countries began to limit the issuance of visas already on february 24, except for lithuania and latvia, and the issuance of tourist permits has been stopped in estonia here you can issue a document only for short-term employment if they already have a valid estonian visa to lithuania itself visas are issued only to spouses and minor children of eu citizens and citizens of lithuanian origin, the czech republic issues only humanitarian visas, and belgium exclusively issues long-term student visas for scientists or for family reunification, similar rules exist in the netherlands. well, denmark went further, citizens of the russian federation and belarus can enter there only with official visits.
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slovakia issues only allowed representatives of individual specialties applying for work in the country to doctors, rural workers, drivers, shift workers, diplomats well, japan continues to issue tourist visas, but exclusively in as part of organized groups, norway wants tourists. they didn't refuse, but made the processing of visa applications much longer and tougher in finland, where there is a visa for russians, while it is being discussed at the level of the parliament, the majority of citizens support it. there is sanctions pressure, it is doing its job, and already, for example, with such specific steps from the leading european countries and not only european russians, well, this will push the russians to think about what is happening to them and their country, well, right now we we are talking about what the president of the country is talking about. he is talking about those sanctions that are in effect even in the short term, that is, they are starting to act now, and this should change
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the behavior of russians in general, russians who thought that even those who were under the lesser influence of their own federal propaganda channels they have to change their point of view about the fact that something is happening wrong in their country and the sign of that something is happening is that they do not want to be accepted in other normal developed countries civilized countries and i just assure you that this is only the beginning of the great way. i understand that some russians are talking now, where most of them usually talk about unfair treatment. they are trying to build such a picture in their heads about what is well, you treat them as third-class people without understanding and without understanding at all why this is happening, but you definitely understand that it is in your head, why it is happening, because if you have money
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and the opportunity to go to european countries or the civilized world, you understand how the civilized world behaves. and what is happening in their own country, there is a very small group of russians who are afraid and fear that if they have to run away from the country as quickly as possible, then there may be problems with their departure, but in this case, we say about a very limited group, and yet these cases, the possibility of political asylum for such people remains, but it is also true that the majority, as far as i understand, of the special services of all these countries, which have already announced restrictions visa authorities will announce such restrictions. they all understand that there are many groups of russian tourists in russia. there are many
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infiltrated people who do not leave with a tourist mission in other countries of the world. that is , in principle, this is mail for many russians to think about the fact that something is going wrong in their kingdom or something is going wrong in the king and it is necessary to think more critically . expand more personal sanctions against the children of lavrov, who are abroad, as well as the assets of putin's daughters, who are also abroad. if their property was seized, it would be more effective for those involved. yes, we remember that 15 millionaires, for example 15,000 millionaires, have already left the russian federation,
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and other russians will follow this path. i think that what you are talking about this list should be quite widespread and i just don't want to talk about the details and i will just give an example of venezuela at a certain period of time it was announced that venezuela was once a democratic country and after such things happened the negative changes taking place in venezuela were announced on, let's say , september 14, let's say around september 14, anyone who continues to work for the government that was then formed in venezuela and which came at the will of the people and was clearly not democratic, and their members er families, if they do not resign from their own government positions, then they will not be able to just
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move around the civilized world, and all of them, including their families, will be sanctioned by venezuela - this is a good example and a good example of how it went, i would be surprised if this was not considered now and i think that the sanctions and you are correct in what you say about the fact that if we are talking about the nomenclature and about their families, then it would be very good such a blow that would be inflicted, but it can be done much more more powerful and more like that if you want to cover mr. lizhe, it is very wonderful that russia is already on and compared with the green one, although you know venezuela. it seems to me a much better country. and despite all the nuances and subtleties there than the russian federation for today. thank you, but guest advisor, the president of ukraine of economic issues was just with us in this part . well, let's add to all that the country is an exile, there is not a cheap president, package sanctions and military aid in ukraine, the isolation of russia and
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the ban on the entry of many civilized russians countries that we have listed, all this testifies to the inability of the kremlin to bear the burden of the war for a long time, but for how long, at what price, this is already a question, it is obvious that a weak russia is beneficial to everyone, and such periods since 1917 have been quite frequent due to world trends of depression, crises , internal problems or external challenges, let's say, the second world war in the union, there were difficult economic times then and now, it is quite a good moment to take advantage of its weakness . disappeared every monday at 21:30 unconquered cities of ukraine kremenchuk is a modern industrial giant hardened by hundreds of years of struggle for freedom in
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cossack times the city was an outpost against the tatars there was a fortress built by the french military engineer guillaumevasser de beauplan kremenchuk was constantly at the center of armed conflicts in the second half of the 17th century a period of almost continuous wars on these lands during the liberation struggle, kremenchuk fell into the wave of the anti-bolshevik uprising of ataman grigov, 150 people died as a result of the pogrom jews and communists during the years of occupation, the nazis created a network of concentration camps in the city, where over 90,000 civilians and prisoners of war were murdered in two years, even during the war, in the premises of an entire synagogue, the museum operated and taught . among the exhibits were sketches by the spanish master bartolome esteb on morillo, but they were seen then in the end, their fate is currently unknown, today
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kremenchuk reminds the world that ukraine is fighting not just the occupiers, but absolute evil but this evil has no chance against the warriors of light kremenchuk unconquered this is the story of how he nerves steel will and character hardened in the sacred fire this is my story cool sweat and hot tears about the heart that remains alive about the soul that was born the free story of my earth where the new destiny of an unbreakable country is forged metal in my hands and in the bodies of my enemies in the voice that promises us victory together we make this world stronger ukrainian nation
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