well, it is necessary to find an evil behind every good, because only then we supposedly have an objective uh situation . i am very sad that ukraine today it was obvious that ukraine is also considered to be guilty of this conflict. by the way, a few days ago i had a dialogue, this is the first such dialogue between ukraine and africa. because she she lured er into nato, this is her fault, look, mr.

myroslav, now they have initiated some kind of research there so that we can look at it passionately and have experts look at this report and say what and when so and so about the internet security council what and when did it go wrong but hmm we we remember the first communications from emnost international after this report appeared, and then suddenly, er, this is the process of studying this report. and before that, there was information that appeared. information that, say, hundreds of dollars of emnost international canceled donations, er, after such report and after such behavior, hmmm , the international themselves thought about whether this is public pressure and whether they really, if there, if they

conduct this investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, investigation, study there were only words that reaped that so much pain was caused but there was no apology er for this information so since there was no apology i assume that there is no sense of wrong there is a sense that they suffer for aspiration to be objective and that is why they would now like to reinforce their objectivity with the testimony of third-party inspectors well, people signed a petition to remove the management of enesti international, it is clear that this

is a non-governmental organization human rights organization, but actually people say that this human rights organization , due to the fact that it has been working for so many years and has become overgrown with a large number of employees and covered with a large amount of all kinds of bureaucracy, has become sluggish and does not quite adequately respond to the challenges of the present time, let's say what is happening in ukraine, what russia has started to do in ukraine, will it still succeed? will this leadership change, or will the behavior demonstrated by the international community, even a petition will not be enough, and they will continue to do what they have been doing i believe in the power of western democracy, western societies have done ok more than once, but they have mechanisms to correct them, so this organization will go through this crisis and, i assume, not only

through one er and then at the next meeting heated discussions will begin and some organization seems to me to find a niche for itself to still exist and be. and further, dear organizations, the voice won a-a p. what do you think about this? it seems to me that as a former soviet or soviet dissident, it is correct to say to a dissident that the motives of all this a-a action that is being prepared are better understood now, how should we react to it, well, first of all, i want to inform you and your viewers that literally an hour ago

our appeal appeared on the website of the initiative group of international ambition, the appeal of the members of the initiative group on this matter, it is clear, it is clear that this is an appeal to the international community, and here, first of all, i want to say why exactly to the international community because the organization was a participant in the agreement that these soldiers, the defenders and the azovians, that they lay down their weapons but that they will be exchanged for other prisoners of war in the future , the organization was a participant in this agreement of the united nations and the red cross. today, these organizations claim that they did not give guarantees

that they only testified. they only witnessed this, but i'm sorry, it's just nester . during the second world war, they were called to protect international law, to protect the international order, today it turns out to be completely helpless. this is how you can not participate in putting your names forward and then say that we do not bear any responsibility after all, the defenders of mariupol and all of us in ukraine believed that this was the case with international guarantees of safety and the lives of our uh, now it was already a prisoner of war.

therefore, this is the first thing that i wanted to say uh, the world, and in particular the west, must come to its senses and must understand that the responsibility of it is the same for them if they participate in those agreements with russia. second, i am very sad about this. i am sorry for my personal reflection. i am very sad to imagine that the next generation of ukrainians will go through those courts because which have passed since the dissidents’ time, not only that , but then the court was more or less because of the pectable today for our soldiers. our heroes will have to

go through the mean more terrible courts, and this is evidenced by the fact of new crimes, sentences for two defenders, death sentences, the third i would really like for us to gratefully remember the representatives of high-ranking employees of estonia, latvia, lithuania, poland and romania who recently made a statement in which they called on the world to look at the roots of those crimes that are being cleaned up in russia today, for me it was music, listen to and read those appeals, those thoughts

that ukrainian dissidents have been talking about for ten years, and the very roots of the crimes in the current russian government do not lie in the conviction of the crimes of the communist regime, this is what those who passed through non-couponist regimes are saying directly today, and it is a pity that to this day, western europe cannot accept more eastern europe as its own, can not recognize the equality of the fields of the devils of the nazi regime and the communist regime, and today it has in front of it this future that is criminal what it sprouted in russia, it is proud of

stalin and the whole communist regime in general, so that they call on the world to stop this without an endless series of homeless cynical crimes of russia, and in the west there are arguments and discussions about the fact that we cannot offend russia we cannot drive it to be and so on. well, well, this must finally come to an end. and i really want to believe that the ukrainians will eventually convince their own that it is necessary to dress up here. the words of mr. myroslava is. i think that i hesitated to say it out loud. but i think that the situation is such that, for example, representatives of ultra-left

views can safely occupy leadership positions. and this would cause an absolutely fair reaction, let me remind myself how once i spoke in a german environment and actually spoke about these communist crimes and spoke about the fact that today europe er, well, the english expression is shifted towards the er, lebanese ideology, yes. imagine the audience just jumped up and said, what, how can you talk like that? and i say yes, i have the right to speak about the criminality of those ideas . what happened in bucha after you

were there, russians, many ukrainians were horrified , and then historians said that well, why are you horrified ? just in europe, too, to the end especially those in western europe who are not fully familiar with what the soviet regime did and what these camps were and what was done to the people there is not fully evaluated fairly. i think that there is still a certain hmm moral penance that the west is also really to blame for this the fact that in general in this war stalin was recognized as the winner as part of a just order when he had not a third of europe was under brutal occupation thank you mr. myroslava for the conversation myroslav marinovych one of the founders of the ukrainian helsinki group the dissident and vice-rector of the ukrainian catholic

university was with us, and little by little , our time on the air is coming to an end, but at the end, let's just talk about, uh, how the volunteer front is doing, contact us, oksana korchynska , a volunteer, uh, we welcome you, ms. oksana yes, we congratulate you, please tell us if we already have the 170th day, 172, it's a secret, it doesn't count here, the front doesn't actually count days. yes, but it's been a long time since we got lost, so if we don't go to the internet, when there's a connection, we don't we know what day it is. let's be honest just as at the front, they don't know whether it's saturday or sunday, and because of course well, especially the number of days from the offensive is no longer counted

. polish for the polish media about what is happening to us here, they get confused in the days and forget when they hit that crimea, did they fly there, or when would something else happen there ? wars many people lose their homes, in addition to the fact that they lose their relatives there, they lose their jobs, and accordingly, the support of the volunteers decreases, tell me your impression, what is it, without a doubt, it is felt that the volunteers are just as tired, and it is really due to the help that it is already less at the front volunteers are coming from the system, those who have been helping for 9 years will get tired. i am very proud of the volunteers, our medical

hospitalists. and every rotation, the crews are getting stronger, and this is a lot of rotation with me the crew that recently worked in kramatorsk in north donetsk now helps us evacuate the wounded and there is an international organization that systematically helps us evacuate the wounded - this is the organization of the ministry of health. we are very grateful to the very professional e-e paramedics there, both ukrainian and american and polish parameters that are there , so those who remain at the front, we have no way out. we have no right to get tired. they sent 23. this is a rarity. usually we already have 40 wounded by this time, and a few days ago there were

already more than 60 wounded by this time. it goes without saying that human bodies have this limit and fatigue is felt strongly. but we have no choice. therefore that it is either us or eternal slavery and we are already our history of ukraine and now yours exactly the participants of the broadcast said that this has been going on for centuries and this time we do not have the right to allow ourselves to give way because if it is not a war and our victory, the next enemy will arrange something similar to famine and it will be either the next stage of the war with the use of nuclear weapons or they are satanists and capable of anything and it will already be the loss of millions, because we have no other way out than to win and save our nation, our country, where are you, this is a banal question but now a

lot of people who are not involved in volunteering, just living in war conditions, say that they feel such a lack of emotional strength, they actually try to maintain balance, for example, hmm, turn off the news feeds on their phones so as not to monitor what it happens that they somehow switch to the here and now and to some of their work if it allows them, uh, the situation in the country, if there are no rockets flying overhead, uh, where do you run out of that kind of recharge so that you don't go crazy, so that you don't give up? well uh, i believe in god and the lord gives these forces . unfortunately, we don’t have a chaplain here. 100 points. chaplains call me from our other units and support me, and that’s why uh, faith in god is exactly what gives me the key to all this. endure because, without a doubt, everyone has fatigue

including when we receive an advisor, we receive 24/7 and every time it seems that you don't have the strength to descend and stabilize eh, i am now eh because of the fact that we are being covered with rocket attacks very often there is no communication and the wounded are coming eh eh without messages eh this is absolutely difficult in general, but when we are fighting for life and at the same time we see that at night those brothers are brought who were dragged out there for several days eh our fallen heroes, we understand that here we are an outpost that cannot retreat because what is behind us the lives of our soldiers and we are very proud of our here is our small charter where military doctors doctors volunteers medicine uh medics volunteers work here in the next few days there will be more than four thousand wounded and only two we did not manage to save

these were extremely serious injuries they have already arrived in fact well, they already arrived without a pulse, this is one military serviceman and one civilian resident and that is why we are very proud that 4,000 of our other defenders and our ukrainians survived thanks to such phonetic work of our medics and our volunteers in our volunteers, because without the help of volunteers we would not have managed to make any stakes at the front , without the help of volunteers we would not have managed to provide medicine to our military units. for example, the hospitalists really help me all the time. doctors, namely, thanks to the help of hospitalists, i provide everyone with what they need, unfortunately , there is a lot missing, but here is the situation

here . eh, smooth khamchuk was not purchased for eh two years, and even before the war, the command under the new commanders also did not purchase first- aid kits, although then the parliament was ready to allocate uah 240 million for the purchase of first-aid kits before the war. and now we are suffering here from the fact that in our combat units send poor-quality humanitarian aid, including poor-quality first-aid kits through the medical forces, very poor-quality turnstiles that directly threaten the lives of soldiers, and this is a particularly difficult situation, these are the investigations that we we are trying to make a report on our doctors in order to return all the low-quality turnstiles of the first-aid kit. only then did the first investigation be completed, it seems that it was possible to stop the distribution of these

low-quality first-aid kits, which were purchased through the embassies of ukraine in the czech republic, and they transferred humanitarian money to the embassy of ukraine in turkey and they bought very low-quality components for first- aid kits and now they asked to stop this distribution as new first-aid kits are coming right away again they are certified chinese turnstiles problems again, and this very situation, because when you can say to the volunteers that well, dear brothers in the sector, please do not bring to the high- quality turnstiles . the life of a soldier depends on this. these are hot people, but in most cases they hear that they would not want to help, even with eyes where they are. sometimes it seems that this is what is

needed at the front. bleeding from the inguinal and brachial arteries requires frame knives, frame knives are meant, this is called if such turtles are plastic that can be taken with you to the front or they are literally small in size. they unfold and you can pull the soldier out yourself . keisovaka is an evacuation from the battlefield, because the last days when we had a flow, we waited for several hours for the wounded while we were evacuating from the battlefield, because there was no means of transportation to get the guys out they are taken out on any kind of combat equipment on jeeps , they are often closed on the way because these battles take place in e-fields, and that is why many tragedies happen to us precisely because there is no pass-through equipment, and i am sorry that the command of the

medical forces has not yet reorganized the situation with humanitarian aid, when they have these jeeps , case cars, civilians, well, that is, in the hospital in the rear, and they are used by the local authorities of the hospitals as personal transport, instead , there is at this moment there is night, there is oxygen, there is suction, everything is equipped to to save the lives of fighters and remove them from the battlefield, and they do not hand over these jeeps to humanitarian ones, that is, when they get between road assistance in the command of the medical forces, they appear to be hospitals along their vertical lines . and hospitals are not needed. hospitals usually need equal mobiles and there are buses for transporting the wounded and to case these cars, jeeps are passable, they are of course needed at the front , just like, for example, the command helped get nissans. i worked directly, and also

took out our wounded on such a nissan. four by four lying wounded, they are passable enough with 31 cm clearance, they again stand like spiers, and they are needed. of course, they are the points of the battalion, this is not organized, the work of the officials, including the command of the medical forces, and i understand that the international structure of the ministry of defense and the armed forces leads to the fact that, after all, there is a lack of logistics in the distribution of international aid, because of this, many people are disappointed, including international partners, and this is very volunteers are dangerous, of course, because when trust is lost, when they do not see the result of their help, of course, their strength leaves them, but we have no way out

. no one will compromise, yesterday we started receiving new wounded people from a-and now after the cluster bombardment, these rockets were filled with large nails with a shifted center of equilibrium, and they enter the body and of course, hurt a lot a large number of e-e bodies in this cassette were released on an ordinary civilian village, and therefore it is without a doubt these means, these weapons are prohibited by all international conventions, but the russians, despite this, violate all international e-e conventions not only by shelling peaceful e-e settlements but using such weapons and these are such high- impact shells and a very large number of injuries and

a large number of wounded, that is why the enemy is naturally vile and will not show mercy to us, we must win once again, i repeat, we have no way out and therefore, despite the fact that there is little power now and hmm but but but we have to do it we have to save our our country ms. oksana you said about cars eh tymofiy melovanov former minister of economic development and trade of ukraine i don't know what kind of adviser he is now or who wrote a post asking how many suvs are needed and how many are needed for the armed forces of ukraine and how many suvs were parked because their owners left and it is possible to provide those suvs with the armed forces of ukraine what do you think about such suvs, well, without a doubt, we support them because it is fundamentally important for us, the

lives of the wounded depend on these suvs, because it is difficult for the former vc to make vaccine cases. they allow us to install small equipment and a good paramedic will certainly save lives, no doubt about it. we need the prime minister of ukraine. i see that he distributed humanitarian aid, for example, the same jeeps ksvku, civilian emergency medicine is a disaster in our medicine, because our territorial defense, dnipro, tells me that these jeeps are standing in the dnipro in hospitals, that personally , the prime minister came and handed them over, they are not needed there, they are needed there, i will explain to you again lazy people and of course medical transport of class b are needed, but in these various jeeps they

do not play any role, they just stand there to impress, why give them away when they are needed at the front to transport the wounded, both military and civilian, that is this is a question, after all, for the authorities. why are there no such logistics? because they tell me that these jeeps have been standing in the mischenkov hospital for a very long time, and the territorial defense of the dnipro, which is very, very poorly equipped, i will tell you that when there was a company on the internet supporting korban, who was engaged in territorial defense in terms of medicine, the units of the territorial defense of dnipro are one of the worst equipped, if it were not for volunteers, they would be in a very bad situation. we have territorial defense from five oblasts, such as dnipro the siege is the worst if we enter the roads of the dnipropetrovsk region, they are completely killed . as soon as we take the wounded to zaporizhzhia, the borders are right there, as soon as the zaporizhia region begins

, the road starts normally. -20 km with seriously injured people because dnipropetrovsk region categorically does not repair why zaporizhzhya is repairing even part of donetsk region, we repaired a little at least dnipropetrovsk region - these are simply those roads that have been transformed - these are asphalt roads, these are the main roads. well, they are transformed into a continuous match of the ground, there are solid pits, and this makes it extremely difficult for us to evacuate, as we have asked the governor and the head of the regional council several times to please help . repairs roads, helps, but dnipropetrovsk region does not, including the distribution of these, well, these jeeps. what territorial defense forces in dnipropetrovsk region could save the lives of their residents, here is the question why they don't hear us well. maybe this guy, you too, can somehow help with what they heard. oksano

, a volunteer from korchyn joined us and joined us in our topics. it's almost over. you know what wizz air thought , they said that they are in abu dhabi or where they are recovering, they are going to resume the flight but they decided to buy off the ukrainians in order to give away 100,000 free e-e tickets, you know what, dear visas e-e, calculate how much it costs 100,000 and copies jeeps, give them to the ukrainian army, everything will not be equal, the case when money is not important to us the origin of this is money that can be taken, i don’t know from the putin broadcaster or if they are going to kill more moscow people, good. we will take it. thank you. andrii zaichuk. where war is not a city for women and children, and they will also tell why it is worth evacuating